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Dennis Reinhart
10-27-2007, 02:11 PM
While in Indiana we met a wonderful couple from Ohio there, they found a KB on a car lot, it had lost a motor, and it was replaced with a reman crate motor, over the last six months Chris has steadily been buying parts from us, so we talked in Seymour I pointed out some evident issues with the last engine install. and him and his wife drove down last Monday and left us the car. The first thing we did was look the car over and set down with a course to take with the car, The car had been dyno before it made 400 RWHP. One of the issues we found was the PCV system was all wrong and Chris had installed vent on the SC, this had to be fixed. We had to relocate the PS reservoir.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/6/kbinlet.jpg

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/6/mafamdinletkb.jpg

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/6/newinlet05gtmaf.jpg

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/6/fuelpump.jpg

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/6/1ondyno.jpg

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The next item was the stock inlet pipe was cracked and the car had the stock Marauder Maf on it, set up as a blow through, in this configuration you are very close to pegging the maf, at 6000RPM, also the car still had the stock fuel pump, so I decided to add the GT fuel pump and my inlet hose and install a 05 GT Maf and DIABLO MAF EXTENDER.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/6/oldpcv.jpg

Chris earlier this year had bought our level 2 transmission up grade kit along with a PI 3000 stall converter, so the trans came out and it was found very worn, we added all new alto clutches and steels the forced lube kit, hardened stub shaft, installed the converter in it, and got it back in the car in one day. We also added the Cobra exhaust kit that we hade here. We finished up yesterday and strapped the car on the dyno and after a few pulls the car was dialed in at 11.4 AF made 430 RWHP at only 8 PSI we took the car out and dialed in the shift points and Chris was very happy when he left here, I want to thank him and his wife.

MarauderSM
10-27-2007, 03:25 PM
ANy more mods in the future planned?

Dennis Reinhart
10-27-2007, 03:28 PM
Addco front and rear sway bars Dynotech Drive shaft Mezirie electric watter pump

Dennis Reinhart
10-27-2007, 05:57 PM
I have over the past years stove to improve all aspects of my business, Jackie is just one small example she is professional she will do any thing to help all of our customers, she follows up on orders she gives out tracking numbers, and does her best to insure you the customer are happy,

When I dyno any car I first pull timing by as much as seven degrees depending on the application I then do a WOT pull carefully watching AF and data logging border line knock and we watch the knock sensors them selves, the we fix the AF SC cars I want 11.5 even with built motors, here is Chris sheet, you will notice 2 AF graphs one is the tail pipe sniffer one is the wide band I only tune with the wide band its far more accurate I change it every six months at 350.00 a pop. Once we get the AF right we slowly start adding timing again data logging every thing and insuring no spark knock, but having a car on the dyno and on the street is totally different, once done with the car its driven on the street dialing in shift points insuring no spark knock, but again the owner has to be aware of what spark knock is insuring the car has plenty enough gas in the tank and he is getting the octane required to safely run the car at the desired boost level.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/6/Chrisdynosheet.jpg

Bigdogjim
10-27-2007, 06:12 PM
What # KB is it?

Dennis Reinhart
10-27-2007, 06:45 PM
I will ask him Jim, I found this article I wrote many years ago and it still stands true today, when we first started out we with with the Cobra Dual fuel pump assembly, and the real high RWHP its the same only now we take out the Cobra pumps and install twin GT pumps, and we run a 12 Gage wire back to the trunk to the FPDM and this allows more current to drive these pumps and most of the time negates the use of the KB BAP, on Chris car a single GT super pump was all that was needed, regardless you never run any Marauder hard with a less than a 1/4 tank of gas in it and here is why.


Here is one of the reasons why the Marauder runs lean.

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The gas tank has a steel basket with a 1/2" hole facing the front of the car at WOT all the gas runs to the back of the tank, and some could run out of the hole, there is no way to get gas in the basket during this event, even with the dual or single pump it will do the same thing, The other issue is even with a 1/2 a tank of Fuel the basket would be submerged but at WOT the gas could run over the edge and be pushed back against the tank, also there is clearly a restriction on the stock Fuel filter and lines, and we are addressing this issue to. But the dual pump is a must for any high RWHP S/C kit. For now my advice to any Marauder owner is don't run the car hard with a 1/4 tank or less.

KillJoy
10-27-2007, 06:53 PM
But the dual pump is a must for any high RWHP S/C kit.

Define High RWHP....

KillJoy

RR|Suki
10-27-2007, 07:05 PM
Define High RWHP....

KillJoy

I can tell you now that a singe GT pump will push 440whp at 10.5 A/F... not sure what I'll go to if I actually lean it out to 11.5, prob 460 - 470. Oh also I run an in car wideband, and I do not get lean condition running the car hard with less than 1/4 tank... however filling my car when the low fuel light comes on only takes 15 gallons

Dennis Reinhart
10-27-2007, 07:17 PM
Define High RWHP....

KillJoy


500 or mre Steve

Dennis Reinhart
10-27-2007, 07:35 PM
I can tell you now that a singe GT pump will push 440whp at 10.5 A/F... not sure what I'll go to if I actually lean it out to 11.5, prob 460 - 470. Oh also I run an in car wideband, and I do not get lean condition running the car hard with less than 1/4 tank... however filling my car when the low fuel light comes on only takes 15 gallons

I respect your opinion. The above pictures are right out of a Marauder gas tank, you take your car to the track on a 1/4 or less, and on launch and at WOT all the gas goes to the back of the tank and you run a very good chance of draining the basket with dual or a high volume single pump.

When I go to the track I am not looking at AF I am concentrated on keeping the car on the track and the driver next to me or in my mirror, On high RWHP cars you never run those cars on a dyno as well with low fuel the car can and does run lean and it does effect tunning, one of my requirements for a dyno day is a min of 1/2 tank, proper octane for the tune you are desiring, correct heat range plugs and gapped right,

If you look at the basket pictures the hole in the basket faces the front of the car, if all the gas is splashed to the back of the tank the basket will not refill till the acceleration has decreased, there have been stock N/A Marauders with low fuel symptoms such as surging and chugging do to low fuel supply going up steep mountains, when the tank gets low.

RR|Suki
10-27-2007, 07:44 PM
I respect your opinion. The above pictures are right out of a Marauder gas tank, you take your car to the track on a 1/4 or less, and on launch and at WOT all the gas goes to the back of the tank and you run a very good chance of draining the basket with dual or a high volume single pump.

When I go to the track I am not looking at AF I am concentrated on keeping the car on the track and the driver next to me or in my mirror, On high RWHP cars you never run those cars on a dyno as well with low fuel the car can and does run lean and it does effect tunning, one of my requirements for a dyno day is a min of 1/2 tank, proper octane for the tune you are desiring, correct heat range plugs and gapped right,

If you look at the basket pictures the hole in the basket faces the front of the car, if all the gas is splashed to the back of the tank the basket will not refill till the acceleration has decreased, there have been stock N/A Marauders with low fuel symptoms such as surging and chugging do to low fuel supply going up steep mountains, when the tank gets low.

don't get me wrong I'm not saying running on low fuel is a good plan, I'm justsaying I've never seen a lean condition from doing it. I am worried about the kind of sediment at the bottom of the tank more at this point. However like I say when the low light comes on in my car I only can get 15gal into the tank, so maybe 1/4 tank for me isn't 1/4 for others, beats me. I'm just relaying what the Wideband is telling me

Dennis Reinhart
10-27-2007, 07:50 PM
don't get me wrong I'm not saying running on low fuel is a good plan, I'm justsaying I've never seen a lean condition from doing it. I am worried about the kind of sediment at the bottom of the tank more at this point. However like I say when the low light comes on in my car I only can get 15gal into the tank, so maybe 1/4 tank for me isn't 1/4 for others, beats me. I'm just relaying what the Wideband is telling me



I agree but at the track is no time to be worried about it, and even if you did see it a WOT running down the track its probably going to be late especially on a stock Marauder with hypertectic pistons

RR|Suki
10-27-2007, 07:55 PM
I agree but at the track is no time to be worried about it, and even if you did see it a WOT running down the track its probably going to be late especially on a stock Marauder with hypertectic pistons

True certainly a stock motor has no business taking any chances at all... I'd run with an extra gas tank :lol:

martyo
10-27-2007, 08:07 PM
Jut sump the tank and be done with these ^^^ problems.

CRUZTAKER
10-27-2007, 08:14 PM
Define High RWHP....

KillJoy

Even I have a GT pump Stevo...and I'm only making 370. :P


Have we heard from Chris on the site yet?
He needs to tell the story of finding this car on a used lot and literally stealing it away. :up:

OneBADLsE
10-27-2007, 09:15 PM
I respect your opinion. The above pictures are right out of a Marauder gas tank, you take your car to the track on a 1/4 or less, and on launch and at WOT all the gas goes to the back of the tank and you run a very good chance of draining the basket with dual or a high volume single pump.

When I go to the track I am not looking at AF I am concentrated on keeping the car on the track and the driver next to me or in my mirror, On high RWHP cars you never run those cars on a dyno as well with low fuel the car can and does run lean and it does effect tunning, one of my requirements for a dyno day is a min of 1/2 tank, proper octane for the tune you are desiring, correct heat range plugs and gapped right,

If you look at the basket pictures the hole in the basket faces the front of the car, if all the gas is splashed to the back of the tank the basket will not refill till the acceleration has decreased, there have been stock N/A Marauders with low fuel symptoms such as surging and chugging do to low fuel supply going up steep mountains, when the tank gets low.

Trust him on this one. He knows alot about this.

Zack
10-28-2007, 05:59 AM
his screenn name is KBMarauder.
He has Z control arms :up:

KBMarauder
10-28-2007, 08:56 AM
Still on my way back from Florida - will post in more detail later in the week. I am really happy to have finally made it down to Dennis and have the issues resolved and improvements made. Dealing with Dennis is a great experience and there is no doubt as to his knowledge and ability. I loved driving the Kenny Brown car and Dennis brought it to a whole new level of performance.

MarauderSM
10-28-2007, 09:02 AM
Dennis. What tuning software do you use?

I personally want to be able to tune with the best of them and was curious as to your setup of computer software.

THNX

Dennis Reinhart
10-28-2007, 11:37 AM
Dennis. What tuning software do you use?

I personally want to be able to tune with the best of them and was curious as to your setup of computer software.

THNX


I use SCT I would buy a proracer package and a Xcal 2

shami02
10-28-2007, 07:13 PM
Dennis. What tuning software do you use?

I personally want to be able to tune with the best of them and was curious as to your setup of computer software.

THNX


Do like Dennis said... The SCT Pro Race and an XCAL2 are the way to go... I have both and the interface is easy to use and fairly understandable... Now if there was just a good book on the fine points of tuning a 32 valve that would be great!

Oh dont forget a WBO2 setup or any real tuning is next to impossible

Have a great evening!

KBMarauder
10-29-2007, 06:05 PM
Dennis is a master of understatement...he said the trans build and PI would wake the car up. I didn't know it was asleep. :eek: I'll post more on the car later. Here's a video of our last day at his shop. http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/showimage.php?i=9958&c=3

Marauder386
10-29-2007, 09:03 PM
This is another wonderful example of Dennis, Miss Sheila,Jackie,Steve, TIGGER and CAT ... I have been out of touch with my extended family and feel guilty for it. Christmas is right around the corner and I do think that Dennis is due for a replacement doggie purse for Tigger...:D





And I know a certain four wheel ricecruncher thats due for a physical/checkup...:burnout: :burnout:




:cool4:

12nights
10-30-2007, 05:21 PM
Dennis is a master of understatement...he said the trans build and PI would wake the car up. I didn't know it was asleep. :eek: I'll post more on the car later. Here's a video of our last day at his shop. http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/showimage.php?i=9958&c=3

Who's Who in the video???

sailsmen
10-30-2007, 06:01 PM
Roger Daltry, Keith Moon and John Entwistle?

Marauderjack
10-31-2007, 04:13 AM
Roger Daltry, Keith Moon and John Entwistle?

Is Pete Townsend DEAD???:eek::shake:

MarauderSM
10-31-2007, 01:06 PM
So Dennis a SCT and pro racer package is better than the limewire?

And how do you feel about the G tech pro meter?