SSHS7 Big Dog Comment from Impala Site [Archive]

FordNut

11-11-2007, 07:31 AM

Here's what John (the 9 sec twin turbo red Impala owner) has to say about it:

As For The Protest!!! It's Ok!!!! Thinking About It Over The Last Few Days I Still Can't Remember A Scale MAN All Day!!! But I Am The Race Director Of The Event. So I Guess I
Dropped The Ball On Making Sure The Post Was Covered. Guess I Was To Busy Kick'en Blue Oval Butt ALL DAY!!!!!!!! So With That Said, Let It Lay GUYS!!!! The Trophys Plastic!!! THE BRAGGING RIGHTS ARE ALL MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well It Was To Bad The Track Stood Firm On The NHRA Lic. It Could Of Been Real PAINFUL Blue Oval Boys!!!! Could Of Been 2 1/2 Seconds. Instead Of Just 1 1/2 Seconds In The Finals!!!! I Will Have My Lic. NEXT Year!!! So You All Better STROKE SOME THING!!!!!!!!

YES, The BADDER BOWTIE Will Have One More Track Apperance This Year. YES THE 8 Sec. PASS!!!! Will Keep You All In The LOOP!!! And Again GUYS Let It GO!!!!!! You Know I'm All About The HEAVY NUMBERS!!!!!!!!

THE BADDER BOWTIE
AKA: BIG DADDY

>>> HEY ALL I NEED VIDEO OF MY PASSES, WHO'S GOT SOME????????

Anybody got videos of his runs? Here's the thread where he posted the above comments: http://www.impalassforum.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=186602&highlight=sshs7&page=8

Raudermaster

11-11-2007, 09:53 AM

Typical GM *********.

FordNut

11-11-2007, 12:05 PM

Typical GM *********.

Wow, that's nowhere near the impression I got. I felt that he knows he had the fastest car, won the race, lost due to a technicality, was personally responsible for it, won't let it happen again, and will be ready to run 9's all day long next year.

But above all, what I get out of his comments is that the controversy over the circumstances of the winning pass are no big deal to him so everybody who keeps stirring the pot about it should just let it go.

Really stand-up guy IMO. Deserving of a lot of respect.

GAMike

11-11-2007, 12:24 PM

Wow, that's nowhere near the impression I got. I felt that he knows he had the fastest car, won the race, lost due to a technicality, was personally responsible for it, won't let it happen again, and will be ready to run 9's all day long next year.

But above all, what I get out of his comments is that the controversy over the circumstances of the winning pass are no big deal to him so everybody who keeps stirring the pot about it should just let it go.

Really stand-up guy IMO. Deserving of a lot of respect.
+2 Brian....... Seemed to be a real decent guy...... The mouthie Bowtie guys were pretty well squashed by their own folks, so this is really a non issue all the way around.

Blackmobile

11-11-2007, 02:51 PM

Raudermaster

11-11-2007, 03:00 PM

Oh, I did get a different opinion from reading it. The way I saw it was that he was bashing all the blue oval/MM guys saying how he's the fastest around and he'll beat everyone blah blah. My bad.

Blackmobile

11-11-2007, 03:16 PM

Oh, I did get a different opinion from reading it. The way I saw it was that he was bashing all the blue oval/MM guys saying how he's the fastest around and he'll beat everyone blah blah. My bad.

What did you expect, kind words of support? Not likely, and when you can run a 1/4 in 9 sec. + (Unsanctioned) you can talk like that. without a good GM adversary who would we run against.....Mustangs?

I would have said Chrysler's but that would have been too funny.

Glenn

11-11-2007, 03:18 PM

Norm from GASSIT is the person who deserves much of the credit for being a true professional and awarding the trophy to Jerry and the bragging rights to Big John for the fastest run. He really handed the issue very well. Norm told John he knew better since he was the Drag Race Director and knew the rules. Norm called for Jerry on the PA at least 5-6 times to pick up his trophy. Jerry was absolutely not expecting the trophy.

Also, little known credit needs to be given to Jerry for walking over to John and he was about to present the trophy to him. But, he saw that John already had 3 huge trophies that he could barely hold on to and rightly decided to keep it. Credit to Jerry. I would have done the same. John did mighty good that day with 3 trophies. It all ended in a fair matter with Norm making the final ruling.

Glenn

Blackmobile

11-11-2007, 03:47 PM

Norm from Gassit is the person who deserves much of credit for being a true professional and awarding the trophy to Jerry and the bragging rights to Big John for the fastest run. He really handed the issue very well. Norm told John he knew better since he was the Drag Race Director and knew the rules. Norm called for Jerry on the PA at least 5-6 times to pick up his trophy. Jerry was absolutely not expecting the trophy.

Also, little known credit needs to be given to Jerry for walking over to John and he was about to present the trophy to him. But, he saw that John already had 3 huge trophies that he could barely hold on to and rightly decided to keep it. Credit to Jerry. I would have done the same. John did mighty good that day with 3 trophies. It all ended in a fair matter with Norm making the final ruling.

Glenn

In true mature form, my hats off to all involved. One warning though, we better step up our game because I believe next year they will come armed to the hilt. I'm thinking along the lines of Jet propulsion in the trunk.

glassman99

11-11-2007, 06:25 PM

I agree with you 100% on this one Brian. I personally don't think he is being disrespectiful but think he is "rais'n the bar" and basically telling us to come after him and the rest of the "Bowties".
One thing that we seem to be forgetting, Marauders took home at least three trophys this year, and I only remember only one from all of the previous shootouts. (I cound be wrong)

ImpalaSlayer

11-11-2007, 07:51 PM

In true mature form, my hats off to all involved. One warning though, we better step up our game because I believe next year they will come armed to the hilt. I'm thinking along the lines of Jet propulsion in the trunk.

talk to my dad. might be able to get you hooked up with a motor for a small fee ;)

Raudermaster

11-11-2007, 07:56 PM

Well, there's a lot of MM's that can't even touch the 12 sec barrier, myself being one (for now!), how the hell are we supposed to compete with a 9 second TT Impala? Maybe faster! I can think of maybe 4 or 5 people who possibly could. Marty, Jerry, John, (I wonder what that monster will run) Zack, Todd maybe? and DR. Just my thoughts.

03blackvegas

11-11-2007, 08:32 PM

In years to come, some of you will learn how the quarter mile thing is so insignificant.

glassman99

11-11-2007, 08:35 PM

It is going to be very tough to put a 4.6 Vs a twin turbo big block any where anytime. Cubes is cubes. You are right though, only the big boys have a snowball of a chance there as "Big Dog" is "heads up" racing. Marauders are extremely competitive in all of the other classes though.

glassman99

11-11-2007, 08:36 PM

Insignificant? That hits close to home!!

(Maybe insignificant in the grand scope of things but fun anyways).:banana2:

Blackmobile

11-11-2007, 09:41 PM

talk to my dad. might be able to get you hooked up with a motor for a small fee ;)

I'm not in need of one yet (Knock on Wood)

LeadSSled

11-12-2007, 02:44 PM

Anybody got videos of his runs?

Here is a video of the Big Dog final run:
SSHS7 Big Dog Final (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/82a6a307-d207-4931-bbac-99e001548b3a.htm)

Pops

11-12-2007, 02:59 PM

I watched all of this happen and saw no malice between John and Jerry. As far as the post I think John was telling us to bring a bigger gun next year. John has a great car that was built well and also has a great fit and finish. I would be proud to own it! Many dollars and man hours were spent building that Impala and it shows it any place you looked. John has my respect for the car and the way he has handled this issue.

KillJoy

11-12-2007, 03:00 PM

The Imp's have had 13~ish years to get to the 9's.

"We" have had 5~ish years to get to the 10's.

I think WE are doing a pretty good job!

:up:

KillJoy

LeadSSled

11-12-2007, 03:06 PM

I think WE are doing a pretty good job!

I'd have to disagree with you there. I think that you are doing a VERY good job. And the competition just makes EVERYONE better. :beer:

johnkuhn - You are exactly right. You just have to know John Rafeseth; he really is a great guy. His forum posts come across way more brash than I think he intends them too. When you meet him in person, you get the "real John".

Joe Walsh

11-12-2007, 03:23 PM

What did you expect, kind words of support? Not likely, and when you can run a 1/4 in 9 sec.

I have to agree....anyone who has a 9 second ...possibly 8 second!..:eek:....:eek:
4000 lb 4 door sedan can brag all they want.

I'd be trash talkin' if I pedalled a 9 second ride!

I've GOT TO make it to next year's event!

RF Overlord

11-12-2007, 03:28 PM

What's the big deal here? I would have been VERY surprised to find any Marauder come close to a 9 sec TT Impala. Not meaning to take anything away from "Big Daddy", but who cares if his car is the fastest car in the world? I think we have some mightly impressive Marauders from Dennis, Marty, Jerry and a quite a few more (please forgive me for not mentioning names but I can't think right now), not to mention John Kuhn and his totally badass GM. :D I think we put on a pretty good showing at SSHS7 and we should be proud of ourselves instead of bickering over technicalities. Give props where they're due, whether it's to the Bowtie bunch or the Blue Oval boys.

Raudermaster, you shouldn't be so quick to jump on people. I didn't read anything in his post that made him an azzhole...

Pat

11-12-2007, 04:01 PM

I'd be trash talkin' if I pedalled a 9 second ride!!

I have to ask where is the challenge or the victory or the glory in pedalling a 8/9 second car against a 10 second car? Flame me if you must.

Am I to understand that bracket racing is so popular because your skill set includes activating the left pedal before the finish line?

Obviously this culture is pervasive since it's discussed in the "how to bracket race" tutorials.

However, the TV series "Pinks" was riddled with this aspect and eventually was replaced by "Pinks All Out" to remedy the pedalling situation.

I guess I'm too old to step on the gas and then have to remember to step on the brake with as much percision as cutting a .00X reaction time before the trap.

Not to worry, I falls asleep at the end of the track anyway.

After several new posts were put up I find that I'm mistaken about what "Big Dawg" racing is all about. It's said that it's not bracket racing but heads up. I think that explains why TR1 team did not protest pedalling because it doesn't apply. TRI was out to set a record for Marauders. Racing against the Impala was incidental, he could have been going against another Marauder for that matter. There is just a few rules, ie: sedan, NLT 4 K lbs with driver, rear wheel drive correct?

With this set of circumstances I can't fault John Impala for any actions on the track. Therefore, I humbly take my foot out of my mouth.

Joe Walsh

11-12-2007, 04:14 PM

I have to ask where is the challenge or the victory or the glory in pedalling a 8/9 second car against a 10 second car? Flame me if you must.

Am I to understand that bracket racing is so popular because your skill set includes activating the left pedal before the finish line?

Obviously this culture is pervasive since it's discussed in the "how to bracket race" tutorials.

However, the TV series "Pinks" was riddled with this aspect and eventually was replaced by "Pinks All Out" to remedy the pedalling situation.

I guess I'm too old to step on the gas and then have to remember to step on the brake with as much percision as cutting a .00X reaction time before the trap.

Not to worry, I falls asleep at the end of the track anyway.

I used the term 'pedalled' to indicate owning & driving a 9 second car...not hitting the brakes to avoid breaking out in a bracket race.

Anyone who has crafted a very fast, very heavy car gets lots of respect from me.

Sorry for the confusion...

fastcar

11-12-2007, 04:21 PM

I have to ask where is the challenge or the victory or the glory in pedalling a 8/9 second car against a 10 second car? Flame me if you must.

Am I to understand that bracket racing is so popular because your skill set includes activating the left pedal before the finish line?

Obviously this culture is pervasive since it's discussed in the "how to bracket race" tutorials.

However, the TV series "Pinks" was riddled with this aspect and eventually was replaced by "Pinks All Out" to remedy the pedalling situation.

I guess I'm too old to step on the gas and then have to remember to step on the brake with as much percision as cutting a .00X reaction time before the trap.

Not to worry, I falls asleep at the end of the track anyway.

I don't like bracket racing much either. It's not about the cars, it becomes about the reaction time, which is b-o-r-i-n-g, IMHO.

Raudy's reaction wasn't a big surprise, he's used to trash talk from GM owners, and just gave a knee-jerk Ford reaction. He wasn't there, so didn't get the whole picture, as I didn't.

BTW, could some tell me what that Impala has for a motor. ARE THEY REALLY RUNNING RAT MOTORS? Or, are they stroked, poked and blown SBs?

I think to compete with that guy, we would need a TWIN TURBO, CLUTCHLESS GEARBOX, BUILT TO THE HILT, 1500HP MARAUDER. Trilogy SCs are NOT going to get us there. Nobody has anything like that...

fastcar:burnout:

Joe Walsh

11-12-2007, 04:30 PM

I don't like bracket racing much either. It's not about the cars, it becomes about the reaction time, which is b-o-r-i-n-g, IMHO.

Raudy's reaction wasn't a big surprise, he's used to trash talk from GM owners, and just gave a knee-jerk Ford reaction. He wasn't there, so didn't get the whole picture, as I didn't.

BTW, could some tell me what that Impala has for a motor. ARE THEY REALLY RUNNING RAT MOTORS? Or, are they stroked, poked and blown SBs?

I think to compete with that guy, we would need a TWIN TURBO, CLUTCHLESS GEARBOX, BUILT TO THE HILT, 1500HP MARAUDER. Trilogy SCs are NOT going to get us there. Nobody has anything like that...

fastcar:burnout:

I believe that he is running a twin turbo Rat motor....don't know the C.I.D.

If I were a rich man my Marauder would already have a blown 600 cubic inch BOSS motor in it....but I'm still looking for that money tree!..:o

You can only do so much with 281 cubic inches and 4400 lbs.

(What we are doing with 281 cubic inches and 4400 lbs is AMAZING!...:bows:)

FordNut

11-12-2007, 04:33 PM

fastcar

11-12-2007, 04:58 PM

I believe that he is running a twin turbo Rat motor....don't know the C.I.D.

If I were a rich man my Marauder would already have a blown 600 cubic inch BOSS motor in it....but I'm still looking for that money tree!..:o

You can only do so much with 281 cubic inches and 4400 lbs.

(What we are doing with 281 cubic inches and 4400 lbs is AMAZING!...:bows:)

Wait a second. Are you telling me that guy had a BIG BLOCK ***PLUS*** TWIN TURBOS on that thing??? You've got to be kidding me. WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO BRAG ABOUT???

BIG DEAL. That's not a race. That's a farce. :flamer: I don't even like the idea. It's so far removed from the car it originally was, that it's no fun. I'd like to see stock deck-height SBs motors in them. that would keep it more interesting...

fastcar:burnout:

fastcar

11-12-2007, 05:02 PM

The rules are: run what you brung, and hope you brung enough.

It is heads up racing with a pro tree, not brackets.

None of the Marauder owners brung enough! They haven't been out long enough for this level of mods, but we're catching up quickly. These 9 second Impalas are kind of a response to some of the 9 second Lincolns which showed up at previous events (I think he broke it at practice the previous weekend). A friendly Bowtie/Blue Oval big car rivalry.

So, in the video, the Marauder started nearly 1 second before the SS, because he:

1. Red lighted worse than anyone EVER.
2. The other guy went into a COMA.
3. They were bracket racing.

And the answer is NOT 3???

fastcar:burnout:

I would NOT be bragging if I was a Chevy lover and saw that race. A 4.6 Trilogy Marauder up against a POKED, STROKED AND TWIN TURBOD RAT MOTOR Impala, and it won by just a second.

Man, I would be really looking over my shoulders if I was them.

All we need to do is show up with a John Kaas Boss next year to take him to the cleaners.

Honestly, though, I don't think it's as much fun as sticking to AT LEAST stock block rules.

LeadSSled

11-12-2007, 05:21 PM

FordNut

11-12-2007, 05:29 PM

So, in the video, the Marauder started nearly 1 second before the SS, because he:

1. Red lighted worse than anyone EVER.
2. The other guy went into a COMA.
3. They were bracket racing.

And the answer is NOT 3???.
No, the answer is not 1 or 3. Maybe he was taking his time 'cause he knew he didn't need to be in a hurry? Maybe he doesn't launch so good since he only has one leg? I don't know why he waited so long, he could have won by much more.

I would NOT be bragging if I was a Chevy lover and saw that race. A 4.6 Trilogy Marauder up against a POKED, STROKED AND TWIN TURBOD RAT MOTOR Impala, and it won by just a second.
Why not? If I had a 9-second car I would brag about it. Especially a 4000 lb-plus car. That's a lot quicker than some of the baddest Mustangs out there. And he let off of it at the big end, he could have stretched it out and won by even more.

Man, I would be really looking over my shoulders if I was them.

All we need to do is show up with a John Kaas Boss next year to take him to the cleaners.
That's what we need, somebody to put up the $$$ instead of just talking about it!

Honestly, though, I don't think it's as much fun as sticking to AT LEAST stock block rules.

Bigger, better, faster, MORE! Gotta be there to really appreciate it.

GAMike

11-12-2007, 05:41 PM

When you get to the Big Dog class, ya don't worry about "Is it a stock motor" and all that whiney ass crap. You worry about conforming to the requirements for the class, and building fastest friggin car your $$$ will let you build...Regardless....... Motor aint stock? Who cares..........Suspension aint this that or the other?... Too bad..... Its Big Dog, not yappy dog.:cool:

sailsmen

11-12-2007, 05:48 PM

Bracket racing is not boring. Try cutting a perfect lite and a prefect dial in time.

There are a lot more varibles and skills involved.

Try doing it in a 4,000+bl S/C car on 10" street slicks or drag radials running less than 13.0.

I will give $100 to the first person that gets to me a Marauder in the 1/4 on an NHRA track time slip and a second run time slip with the same car number to prove it.

I previously reported on a Marauder that reportedly ran 9's in Texas as reported to me by a guy in the pitt crew of a Mustang. I remember somone said it had dual turbos.

Paul T. Casey

11-12-2007, 06:01 PM

Wait a second. Are you telling me that guy had a BIG BLOCK ***PLUS*** TWIN TURBOS on that thing??? You've got to be kidding me. WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO BRAG ABOUT???

fastcar:burnout:

How's stuff like power windows, radio, and full interior do for you? On an 8 second car, that is.

So, in the video, the Marauder started nearly 1 second before the SS, because he:

1. Red lighted worse than anyone EVER.
2. The other guy went into a COMA.
3. They were bracket racing.

I think he was just showing off.

fastcar

11-12-2007, 06:53 PM

The engine in the twin turbo Impala is a 400 CID SMALL block. It is a Dart iron block, not an LT1 block. But it is an iron small block. That car weighs 4224# with the driver.

The engine in the white "Pro Street" Caprice that ran an 9.00 at 155 mph is a 572 big block with N20. It is a pure race car - tube chassis, no interior, etc. It was not even close to making the 4000# weight limit and was just there to put on a show.

That's encouraging. I'm glad were comparing apples to apples. And that's a great run on 400 inches. HE MUST HAVE PUT THE BRAKES ON BECAUSE HE SHOULD HAVE RUN ABOUT 148 MPH WITH THAT ET. Why did he put the brakes on? Was it bracket racing???

BTW, his ET indicates that he is making no less than 817 RWHP, probably somewhat better. It would not be hard to get even a BLOWN Marauder (esp. a Kenne Bell) to make that power, never mind with TWIN TURBOS.

Now, we just need someone with the bling to step up to the plate ;)

fastcar:burnout:

FordNut

11-12-2007, 07:40 PM

That's encouraging. I'm glad were comparing apples to apples. And that's a great run on 400 inches. HE MUST HAVE PUT THE BRAKES ON BECAUSE HE SHOULD HAVE RUN ABOUT 148 MPH WITH THAT ET. Why did he put the brakes on? Was it bracket racing???

BTW, his ET indicates that he is making no less than 817 RWHP, probably somewhat better. It would not be hard to get even a BLOWN Marauder (esp. a Kenne Bell) to make that power, never mind with TWIN TURBOS.

Now, we just need someone with the bling to step up to the plate ;)

fastcar:burnout:

IT WAS NOT BRACKET RACING

Possible reasons:
NHRA license has different license levels for the driver certification as well as for the car safety equipment requirements. Maybe his car is ok in the 9's but the 8's have more strict requirements and it doesn't meet them? Anybody who knows better feel free to correct me. I think they're supposed to use the parachutes over 150 trap speed also. And maybe it was just so damn fast he thought he ought to slow down?

He is making well over 1000 rwhp, some have claimed around 1400.

LeadSSled

11-12-2007, 08:06 PM

That's encouraging. I'm glad were comparing apples to apples. And that's a great run on 400 inches. HE MUST HAVE PUT THE BRAKES ON BECAUSE HE SHOULD HAVE RUN ABOUT 148 MPH WITH THAT ET. Why did he put the brakes on?

He was definitely on the brakes, or at least coasting. You will notice that the trap speed was only 4 mph different than the 1-second slower car. I'm not sure exactly why the he was on the brakes, but I have a pretty solid guess. Earlier in the day, be received a pretty good butt-chewing by track officials for running less than a 10.0 (9.83 that pass) without an NHRA competition license. He was told if he did it again, he would be escorted off of the premises. Nobody knew that it was required until tech inspection, but that was a mistake on John's part. But they told him and Smitty (white Caprice) that if they broke 10.0 seconds, they would be asked to leave. After being warned once, John knew that he would get another talking too. I think that he was on the brakes because he had already gone past the other car, but did not want to flagrantly defy the 10.0 ET limit by a second or more. That wouldn't look good for the Competition Director to rub their face in it like that. That is John's home town and he'd like to race there again. That car ran a 9.21 at 149 mph 3 weeks before the event on less boost than he was running at SSHS7. My calculator says that is 1050-1100 HP on the 9.21 pass. His chassis is NHRA certified for a 7.5 second pass.

Here is another pass by a fast car that was heavy on the brakes. Look at the trap speed versus the ET.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/XXL-VETE/101_0719.jpg

This is what he ran at the end of the day:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/XXL-VETE/101_0721.jpg

fastcar

11-12-2007, 08:07 PM

IT WAS NOT BRACKET RACING

Possible reasons:
NHRA license has different license levels for the driver certification as well as for the car safety equipment requirements. Maybe his car is ok in the 9's but the 8's have more strict requirements and it doesn't meet them? Anybody who knows better feel free to correct me. I think they're supposed to use the parachutes over 150 trap speed also. And maybe it was just so damn fast he thought he ought to slow down?

He is making well over 1000 rwhp, some have claimed around 1400.

I re-calculated the MPH/ET/HP, and found that the output from the first calculator was in error. Another calculator says that ET requires 995 RWHP, which make A LOT more sense to me. A MM with 817 RWHP WILL NOT GO 9.43 in the 1/4!

So, you are right, it has to make AT LEAST 1000 HP, and probably quite a bit more, esp. with the fishy MPH, which is way too low, meaning, he ran 9.43 WITH THE BRAKES ON, so this thing may very well be making the claimed 1400 HP.

fastcar:burnout:

fastcar

11-12-2007, 08:14 PM

He was definitely on the brakes, or at least coasting. You will notice that the trap speed was only 4 mph different than the 1-second slower car. I'm not sure exactly why the he was on the brakes, but I have a pretty solid guess. Earlier in the day, be received a pretty good butt-chewing by track officials for running less than a 10.0 (9.83 that pass) without an NHRA competition license. He was told if he did it again, he would be escorted off of the premises. Nobody knew that it was required until tech inspection, but that was a mistake on John's part. But they told him and Smitty (white Caprice) that if they broke 10.0 seconds, they would be asked to leave. After being warned once, John knew that he would get another talking too. I think that he was on the brakes because he had already gone past the other car, but did not want to flagrantly defy the 10.0 ET limit by a second or more. That wouldn't look good for the Competition Director to rub their face in it like that. That is John's home town and he'd like to race there again. That car ran a 9.21 at 149 mph 3 weeks before the event on less boost than he was running at SSHS7. His car is NHRA certified for a 7.5 second pass.

Here is another pass by a fast car that was heavy on the brakes. Look at the trap speed versus the ET.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/XXL-VETE/101_0719.jpg

This is what he ran at the end of the day:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/XXL-VETE/101_0721.jpg

Nice shots, and info - thanks. Yes, this confirm it. 11 flat at 61 MPH??? UNBELIEVABLE!!! I got a really good laugh when I saw that...

Yes, this car is probably teetering on the edge of an 8 second pass. It's wicked fast. It would be A LOT of fun if we had a MM with a twin turbo 4V motor to go up against it. What a hoot that race would be!

So this car that ran 9.43 and weighed 4224, did it have tubs, or stock wheel wells? Is it a street car, or a trailer queen. I know the Trilogy car is a street car... At 4224, it sounds like a street car in full dress, but I'm curious about the rear tires...

fastcar:burnout:

LeadSSled

11-12-2007, 08:29 PM

While I think that the car still has plates, funtioning headlights, tail lights, turn signals, power windows, etc.. I don't believe that it is street driven anymore. It's a pure race and show car. I do not know for sure if those are stock wheel wells. I didn't look close enough at that part of the car to verify that. But based on the photos that I've seen, they sure look to be stock. It appears to be a factory trunk carpet in the car, and no tubs are visible in the back seat. Here are some interior shots and in the trunk:

http://www.ellweinengines.com/misc/bigdaddy10.jpg

http://www.ellweinengines.com/misc/bigdaddy13.jpg

http://www.ellweinengines.com/misc/bigdaddy14.jpg

http://www.ellweinengines.com/misc/bigdaddy8.jpg

FordNut

11-12-2007, 08:37 PM

Thanks for the pics and info. John has one bad mofo there.

ts-pa

11-13-2007, 10:31 AM

... Norm called for Jerry on the PA at least 5-6 times to pick up his trophy. Jerry was absolutely not expecting the trophy.

Also, little known credit needs to be given to Jerry for walking over to John and he was about to present the trophy to him. But, he saw that John already had 3 huge trophies that he could barely hold on to and rightly decided to keep it. Credit to Jerry. I would have done the same. John did mighty good that day with 3 trophies. It all ended in a fair matter with Norm making the final ruling.

Glenn

This was nice of Jerry, but if your a competitor in a sport, win or lose, you should be at the award presentation to accept or to congratulate.

Breadfan

11-13-2007, 10:41 AM

Those are great pics, truly a fast and well built car!

Those pics also show what it may take for a Marauder to compete at that level. We've done very well with the 4.6l blocks and DOHC heads, and getting faster each year.

I believe on the stock engine architecture (ie. same block and head design) 9's are possible with 4000+lbs race weight. It will take plenty to get there, but these engines make very good power for their cubes.

Shove a big block Ford with some custom turbos between the fenders of a Marauder and you'll be getting some killer times too.

That's not looking down on anything the Impala guys have done to get those times, but it's just confirming what they already know - that getting 4200lbs down 1320ft that fast can be done with a big block conversion.

sailsmen

11-13-2007, 01:14 PM

"..... Is it a street car, or a trailer queen. I know the Trilogy car is a street car... At 4224, it sounds like a street car in full dress, but I'm curious about the rear tires...

fastcar:burnout:

The Trilogy:trophy: car is regularly driven on the street? I thought it was a track only car that was trailered to events?:confused:

fastcar

11-13-2007, 04:24 PM

The Trilogy:trophy: car is regularly driven on the street? I thought it was a track only car that was trailered to events?:confused:

I thought it was a street car. I mean, the Trilogy car does not see any street duty? Someone must know for sure...

fastcar:burnout:

Muffrauder

11-13-2007, 05:47 PM

Typical GM *********.

You saying GM owners are a s s holes? You can't say that. Every punk a s s kid with a Fox body and Flowmasters thinks he is John Force , now thats Typical.:banana2:

Muffrauder

11-13-2007, 05:52 PM

Here's what John (the 9 sec twin turbo red Impala owner) has to say about it:

Anybody got videos of his runs? Here's the thread where he posted the above comments: http://www.impalassforum.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=186602&highlight=sshs7&page=8

I have to say that guy is NOT your "typical" GM owner. Yes I agree he is a bit of an a s s about the run. Poor winning is far worse than poor loosing. The brand of vehicle has nothing to do with the type of person inside , an a s s hole is an a s s hole ...Ford , Dodge or Chevrolet. agreed?

O's Fan Rich

11-14-2007, 06:28 AM

The Trilogy:trophy: car is regularly driven on the street? I thought it was a track only car that was trailered to events?:confused:

Licensed, tagged, insured inspected for street driving, as long as the slicks are off.
Trilogy 1 also just got a brand new full stainless exhaust, with SW headers and mufflers at Grand Muffler.
It is street legal. As far as how much street time it sees you'd need to ask Jerry.

martyo

11-14-2007, 06:49 AM

Licensed, tagged, insured inspected for street driving, as long as the slicks are off.
Trilogy 1 also just got a brand new full stainless exhaust, with SW headers and mufflers at Grand Muffler.
It is street legal. As far as how much street time it sees you'd need to ask Jerry.

Jerry's car is as street legal as mine and that is enough for me.

Funny how those that are setting "the rules" aren't even close to touching the record.

You don't hear me complaining that Jerry's car is more stripped out than mine, do you??? :rolleyes:

Raudermaster

11-14-2007, 07:53 AM

You saying GM owners are a s s holes? You can't say that. Every punk a s s kid with a Fox body and Flowmasters thinks he is John Force , now thats Typical.:banana2:
Yea, and every other punk ass kid with an F body Camaro/Firebird with duals (whoops, I mean single exhaust with dual tips :bigcry:) thinking they're Mario Andretti.

sailsmen

11-14-2007, 06:44 PM

My former neighbor has an Fbody, TTops, a/c, interior, carb racing engine. He runs low 10's.

It is street licensed except for the slicks. every now and then he drives it around the neighborhood.

It goes on a trailer to/from the track.

I saw him pulled over by the Sherriff for speeding. His battery died so I gave him a jump. His comment you drive a Ford so I know you have jumper cables.

I said you are in no position to say anything.

Raudermaster

11-14-2007, 08:18 PM

LOL. Good stuff. You should have just driven away.

LeadSSled

11-18-2007, 02:44 PM

I thought that you folks might be interested in the latest developments with John's Impala. John posted the following info on the ImpalaSSforum site today.

Well Went To The House of Hook!!!! Carolina Drag Way Jackson,SC Yesterday!!!!

Same Tune As The Shootout 1 St Pass!!!!!!!! No changes Just All Out!!!!!

60' 1.383
330 3.873
1/8 5.874
MPH 124.28
1000 7.570
1/4 9.001
MPH 155.26

But It Still Say's NNNNIIIIINNNNNNEEEEE!!!! NOT EIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
But It Is Living Proof 4,300# Of Impala SS Can FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Ya Smitty!!!!!!! Just Keep Eating Them Wheaties~!!!!!
That Would Have Been One Hell Of A Race. If It Was Me & You @ SSHS7!!!!!!!!!

Second Pass!!!!

I Go To The Lanes. Track Guy Comes To Me & Says. You Know Your Going To
Have To Use Your Shoots!!! Over 150 MPH DAMM!!!! But Sir I Have No One
To Help Pick Them Up. No Problem Sir I'll Send One Of My Guys On The Four
Wheeler To Help You. A Little Valet Service Carolina Drag Way Style!!!!

Now To The Line!!!! Do A Massive 2 nd Gear Burnout.
Left Like Godzilla On Steroids!!!! 1.32 60' Time!!
Just Before The 1/8 The Reality Of Turn The Knob Sets In !!
Both Tires Up In Smoke! Had To Pedal It. Still Ran A 10.23 !!!!!!

Know For The Wrap Up. I Go To The Pits To Get Ready For Next Pass.
We Are Filling The Ice Box In The Trunk!!! Lot Of Cars At The Track.
When A 10.5 Outlaw Car Pulls Out Of His Pit In Tow By A Four Wheeler
And Runs Right Into The Back Of My Car!!! Dam 12 Year Old Driving The
Four Wheeler. Pulls The Car In Tow Right Into Me!!!! New Bumper Cover & Paint!!!
Made Him Pay ME CASH On The Spot!!! Sorry!!! I Don't Know Who You ARE!!!!
So With This Guy Trying To Put The Cash Together. The Announcer Says Staging
Lanes Are Now Closed!!!!!! GREAT!!!! NO More Pass For The BADDER BOWTIE TODAY!!!

So The Quest Continues!!!!!!!

THE BADDER BOWTIE
(Playing With The Knob!!!!)

fastcar

11-18-2007, 03:23 PM

WOW. Really quick and fast. Man, to miss it by 2/1000ths! I HATE when that happens:shake:

BTW, what is 'turning the knob'? Does that have to do with the turbo chargers?

fastcar:burnout:

LeadSSled

11-18-2007, 03:48 PM

BTW, what is 'turning the knob'? Does that have to do with the turbo chargers?

Yes, I believe he is talking about turning up the boost by adjusting the wastegate controller. At least that is the "family friendly" explanation. :)

BTW - In case you hadn't noticed. John REALLY likes to use exclamation points when he posts. ;)

fastcar

11-18-2007, 04:13 PM

Yes, I believe he is talking about turning up the boost by adjusting the wastegate controller. At least that is the "family friendly" explanation. :)

BTW - In case you hadn't noticed. John REALLY likes to use exclamation points when he posts. ;)

He's got a LOT to be excited about. I felt the same way when I cracked the 13s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

See. I told you so. :D

fastcar:burnout:

fastcar

11-18-2007, 04:16 PM

Yes, I believe he is talking about turning up the boost by adjusting the wastegate controller. At least that is the "family friendly" explanation. :)

BTW - In case you hadn't noticed. John REALLY likes to use exclamation points when he posts. ;)

Is he ACTUALLY turning it by hand WHILE DRIVING? Or, did he just set it too high at the start? It would be cool if the waste gate could be electronically controlled so it adds boost the further down the track he gets. I love turbos:)

fastcar:burnout: