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sailsmen
12-17-2007, 05:53 PM
It seems that 2 dozen or so have gone up for sale in the past 60 days.

I am curious as to the reasons. Would appreciate any comments such as;

Warranty expired

Extra car and finances no longer allow an extra car

New car caught your fancy

Lost interest

KLinardo
12-17-2007, 07:53 PM
I put up 2 threads to this same question i have a poll up still (might need to look for it) and the answer was generally it isnt a winter car and the waranty is out... they had their fun now its over... 100% BS in my opinion we havent gotten rid of a car in years and I don't think we will soon.

DarthMarauder
12-17-2007, 08:27 PM
Gas prices are making me look at selling mine. I'm stationed in North Carolina and live in Michigan and almost never go home when I can just cause it cost so much for gas to drive there and drive around while home. It easily cost me over 200 to go to and from home and thats if I don't go anywhere while home and do nothing while home. Will probably end up with something with a 4 cyl or something I can save up enough to pay cash for that way I can save my payments for gas.

sailsmen
12-17-2007, 09:11 PM
Before you sell for mileage please do the math. Several people I know changed their minds when they realized it would cost more.

15K per year @20MPG 750 gallons $3.30 = $2,475

15K per year @30MPG 500 gallons $3.00 = $1,500

Savings = $975 / 12 = $81.25 per month.

I was so tired of all the media hype I called into a big AM station which has over 500K listeners with the above example. Fortunately as a result they quit talking about it.

DarthMarauder
12-17-2007, 09:22 PM
I'm in the military still in the low pay grades so 81.25 would let me have a cell phone which I don't have but hey I have a MM for the time being what do I need a phone for. But to sum it up for me if I can get rid of the MM before deployment and come back with 10000 from saving while over there and not paying a car payment and insurance. Then when I get back use that to pay a majority of a Mini Cooper or like a Jetta get my payments to drop at least 150 a month cause I'd go used. Plus the gas savings of 82. Plus already quoted insurance which would save me about 40 a month. I'm now just with that looking at about 272 a month thats a weekend a month I could drive home and have plenty of money to do stuff while home. But if I was working like a normal type job 82 is not alot and I'd probably keep the MM then.

Cordoba1
12-17-2007, 09:23 PM
I wished I live in a city that had gas as cheap as $3.30! I haven't seen it that low in months!

$80.00 a month IS non-trivial. I was on a tight budget for some time -- and $80/month was a make-or-break number. I'm doing better now -- so going back to a Marauder!

MACFORD88
12-17-2007, 09:25 PM
Im Thinking Of Selling Mine Too.but Not Because Of Gas Prices Its Because Its Alwalys In The Garage.i Dont Have The Time To Enjoy It.i Got Mine In Jan Of This Year And Only Driven It 1200 Miles.

ts-pa
12-17-2007, 09:28 PM
Before you sell for mileage please do the math. Several people I know changed their minds when they realized it would cost more.

15K per year @20MPG 750 gallons $3.30 = $2,475

15K per year @30MPG 500 gallons $3.00 = $1,500

Savings = $975 / 12 = $81.25 per month.

I was so tired of all the media hype I called into a big AM station which has over 500K listeners with the above example. Fortunately as a result they quit talking about it.


I looked at it in the same manner, decided to enjoy my ride for the slight extra cost.

If you smoke, cut back or better yet, stop, there is some money right there & better for your own health.

For me, I started using my winter beater about one or two days a week to and from work as it is slightly better with gas. Saves mileage on my good car too. It sure makes me appreciate my good car all the more too!

sailsmen
12-17-2007, 09:59 PM
$82 a month is not trivial. Buying a new car for $300 a month to save $82 a month is stupid and yet some people get caught up in the hype and that is what they do.

The Marauder is a luxury item, it's more than just transportation. You can get a cell phone for a lot less than $82 per month.

Tell us what city you are in. I travel through out the South and I don't see premium over $3.30. 40 out of 50 states it's $3.32 or less. I assume regular is also more so the end amount will be similar ~$88 a month.

I agree if you can't afford $82 per month than you probably cannot afford a $35,000 car like the Marauder.

You can always buy a used one down the road.

Cordoba1
12-17-2007, 10:12 PM
Chicago. Many members still have a payment, so "downgrading" would save even more than the savings in gas.

Agreed -- The Marauder IS a luxury item as there are vehicles that offer more practicality.

I live in a city where I don't need a car at all, but I own two -- because I'm a certified nut. :help:

This may be hard to believe -- but it cost me over $700/month to have a Marauder. I once calculated that I could afford to take a cab everyday to work -- and be money ahead! (I take a bus currently as driving to downtown Chicago is not practical). Or -- I could afford to rent a car every Friday after work, and return it Monday morning -- and I would still be money ahead.

Don't believe $700 month?
$422 Car Payment
$ 95 Insurance
$125 Parking
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That's $642...
That's before I drive it, pay tolls, oil changes, LOTS of $15 car washes, etc.

And since I LOVE to drive -- I do occasionally drive it to work and cough up the $16 it cost to park.

Damn -- I'm looking at these numbers -- maybe I AM crazy! :D

hyvltge
12-17-2007, 10:19 PM
If any one is in the western US and considering selling let me know, I am in AZ and looking. Thanks!

Glenn
12-18-2007, 04:46 AM
I have put 65,000 on my Marauder and enjoyed every mile of it. But, I have basically put it up. I drive my 1996 Ranger truck with 240,000 miles that gets 22 MPG. It this point many owner's have to make the decision to continue driving the MM as a DD or put it up like I have. I have way too much money in the MM to continue driving it daily, I want to keep it looking nice, gas mileage is somewhat an issue since I drive 110 each day to work, but the main reason is my 75,000 mile warranty. My warranty expires on June, 2009 so I am tring to stretch the mileage to meet the expiration date. But, I do miss driving it everyday.

Glenn :burnout:

Blackened300a
12-18-2007, 05:11 AM
My Marauder was a daily driver but it wasnt the gas prices that made me take it off the road. I just dont like racking up the miles on it. I know what I have and I want it hold some value. I drive 12 miles to work every day in stop and go traffic with gas prices up to $3.50 a gallon here in NY. A second car was the smartest choice and so far I racked up 9K miles on my daily driver and saved my MM from hitting 70K.
My monthly expense on both cars.
MM payment=$300
MM Garage payment=$75
MM gas for the month=$50
DD gas payment= $40 a week so $160-$200 depending on month

So Im spending $585-$625 a month and thats not including if I do scheduled maintence.
Its expensive when its broken down like this.

Marauderman
12-18-2007, 05:23 AM
Well , I just filled up coming to work this morning in my MM and gas was $2.91 for 93 premium.......and mine is not a DD.....I will turn over 41k on the clock and 20K on the motor today---and of course no warranty--its a car to drive, fill it up, and back her in the garage till next time kinda car---taker her to work maybe 1 - 2 times a month--cause I start having withdrawals-- mostly use her on trips--fun car then too of course, besides making alot of local cars seem ridiculas for playing with her when used locally----and you all have done that alot --cause I read it all the time--:lol:----and like others have said--in my case--likewise--Its a keeper---carry on........Tom

03mara300b
12-18-2007, 05:48 AM
I squeezed 16.6 mpg just buy keeping my foot out of it around town. 13-14 with spirited driving. That saves about $2.85 a tank, not that I care. I loose more than $3.00 a day walking around.

sailsmen
12-18-2007, 06:10 AM
Remember when you by a new car and borrow for 5 years vs keeping the MM and having it paid off in one year.

MarauderTJA
12-18-2007, 07:02 AM
I have put a lot of money in my Marauder. But it is my hobby and I will not part with it for anything:shake:.

A friend of mine has a $65K bass boat. He is lucky he uses it twice a month and his payment is more than $600./month and has to pay for the gas as well. I had a nice boat when I lived on Cape Cod, moved to Florida and in six months I sold it. Overall it cost me far more than I could ever put in my MM over time. In one more year my Marauder will be paid in full.

Gas mileage is a concern for anyone who travels a lot or the car is the only driver. I have spoken to several people who sold their Marauder. Standard response, I wish I never got rid of it.:alone: A mistake. It will cost you more money to replace the car, with payments, higher insurance rates and more. It is a serious question, keep it or sell it........a guess it is just a matter of priorities.

Da Dark Jedi
12-18-2007, 07:50 AM
I live in Chicago, gas price is not high it's just the city tax on it that makes the price one of the highest in th U.S... I have a 97 Q45 that me & the wife use as a DD. All my commute is done by public transportation, also I live within walking distance from everything I need, from Post Office, UPS, two Jewel food store, Target, video stores, if you around my area I'm on a bike with stuff on my handle bars. I ride my bike on the paths of Lake Shore Drive every summer and watch the ladies. People in my area wonder why I don't drive but pay a car note, yet the same people won't walk two blocks to get a paper. I have no intention on selling my Marauder. I knew I wanted this car in Oct. of 2002 when I met Kenny Brown and the first SC MM. I spend money just walking.

Zack
12-18-2007, 08:07 AM
I drive my BLUE everyday, rain, snow, salt.
I could DIE tomorrow.

finster101
12-18-2007, 08:22 AM
My daily driver. Bought it new 39K on the clock and I would'nt have it any other way.

RoyLPita
12-18-2007, 08:50 AM
I would get another side job to help pay for my MM and other luxuries. In fact, I plan on it at the beginning of the year.

fastblackmerc
12-18-2007, 09:07 AM
My MM is a DD. When I'm home it gets driven and washed. Over 41K on the clock and I don't know how much $$'s have gone in the tank. I don't care either. I'll never get rid of my MM................ and it's paid for.

The Big Stu
12-18-2007, 09:30 AM
I spend over $400 every month in gas, plus the $450 car payment...I can't afford it...but it is worth it for the car I really want.

Bluerauder
12-18-2007, 11:20 AM
Before you sell for mileage please do the math. Several people I know changed their minds when they realized it would cost more.

15K per year @20MPG 750 gallons $3.30 = $2,475

15K per year @30MPG 500 gallons $3.00 = $1,500

Savings = $975 / 12 = $81.25 per month.

I was so tired of all the media hype I called into a big AM station which has over 500K listeners with the above example. Fortunately as a result they quit talking about it.
The real savings is probably a little less than that in many places. The difference between 87 and 93 in this area is just $0.20. Adjusted for that the net savings is closer to $75.00 per month.

15K per year @20MPG 750 gallons $3.20 = $2,400

15K per year @30MPG 500 gallons $3.00 = $1,500

Savings = $900 / 12 = $75.00 per month.

MarauderTJA
12-18-2007, 11:29 AM
I drive my BLUE everyday, rain, snow, salt.
I could DIE tomorrow.

Your right Zack. My 32 yr old niece just had a stroke:eek:.

My motto,

"Do it now, because today will be yesterday tomorrow."

Life is far to short to not enjoy every single day.

ChiTownMaraud3r
12-18-2007, 11:43 AM
I drive my BLUE everyday, rain, snow, salt.
I could DIE tomorrow.

Exactly why its bs to put the car into 20 year storage, like that kid..:shake:

airborne_mp84
12-18-2007, 12:03 PM
im in the military also and franlky gas dosent bother me, you gotta have it...its a must.... trust me i under stand what you guys mean but you only live once..i love my MM and all my cars at that i own a 1968 fleetwood with a 7.7Liter 472cid 30 gal tank & a 1988 chev Surburban witha 5.7 liter 350cid 35 gal tank ...i have always and will always drive a V-8, i could not imagine me driving a 4 or 6 cylinder rice rocket and no offesne to those who own rice rockets on the site but thats just me i will never sell my MM:D

SlkMerc
12-18-2007, 12:38 PM
Wrecked for 6 grand. Mine was a daily driver too. LUCKY to get 14 MPG (yea yea yea, I know we dont have these cars for the economy).

I dont know if I would be calling people stupid. Not everything is the same for everyone. I opted to buy a new car ( $230 a month ) better mileage, warranty, and im rebuilding my credit which was whack. I miss the MM, hope to get another one some day

Wags
12-18-2007, 12:54 PM
I was selling mine because I was going to get a Charger. Couldn't sell the Marauder, not even for 10K! So it is stored for the winter. Couldn't even sell the snow tires and wheels!

Wags

Aren Jay
12-18-2007, 12:58 PM
And for the mileage $$$ losses, you gain that back in cheaper insurance.

Plus most new cars use Premium octane gas anyway.

gmtech
12-18-2007, 01:55 PM
i have horrible credit but ive almost tripled my wages within the last 4 years,i got married in 04/06, bought my MM in 10/06,bought my house in 12/06 and bought my wife a car in 02/07...i work my tail off and i have come to learn that you pay for what you get...i love my MM even though it cost me about $135 a month in gas (daily driver)...insurance is $165 a month...car pymt is $512 a month plus tires,matinence and mods but i wouldnt trade it for the world ;)

Aren Jay
12-18-2007, 02:21 PM
There is alot to say for paying off debt and having and owning your car house etc...

Me I'm just left with paying off my Townhouse. Everything else I own. I own my Marauder. If you can't afford everything, pay them off one by one. Pay the minimal on the big things, your house, and pay off the little things. Then pay off the house as fast as you can afford. When you hit 40 you can be debt free. Even better if your 30.

Cordoba1
12-18-2007, 03:00 PM
There is a lot to say for paying off debt and having and owning your car house etc...

I completely agree that paying off one's debt is an excellent goal -- I disagree with the method stated. Instead of paying off your smaller balances first, I believe you should instead send the most money to your highest-interest rate debts first, and pay the minimum on your lower-interest rate debts. As you get the higher-ones paid off, start working on the next lower, etc, until you get them all paid off!

I was stupid in college - I borrowed the maximums, and now I'm paying the price. The good news is that my college debt is considered "good" debt, and the interest rate is stupid-low -- so I just pay the minimums on that. I'm chucking away at my higher credit card debt -- and one by one, getting those things paid off! Yeah! :beer:

ts-pa
12-18-2007, 03:19 PM
....Life is far to short to not enjoy every single day.

So very true!

sailsmen
12-18-2007, 03:42 PM
Who called anybody stupid?

Getting caught up in mdeia hype and buying a new car to save money only to end up spending more money is stupid.

The early greencars were stupid to buy to save on fuel because you could not overcome the premium cost in fuel savings. I don't know if that is still the case.

Bluerauder
12-18-2007, 07:19 PM
The early greencars were stupid to buy to save on fuel because you could not overcome the premium cost in fuel savings. I don't know if that is still the case.
It would take about 6 years of fuel savings to offset the original $5,000 premium on the Hybrids. That assumes 40 MPG/87 Octane vs. 20 MPG/91-93 Octane and 15,000 miles per year.

It would be closer to 10 years to offset the cost of a Civic or Escape hybrid vs. the regular model. It is rather unlikely that most people would keep these cars 6 or even 10 years. So you are right, fuel savings over the owner's life of the car couldn't overcome the premium on hybrids.

Of course, some people bought into the 50-60 mpg hype and started complaining when they started getting much less fuel mileage.

Hybrids seem to be pretty popular in this area because they can still use the HOV lanes with only a driver (ie. they don't require 3 people in the car). I guess that might be worth the extra cost to some folks in just time saved.

SlkMerc
12-18-2007, 09:53 PM
My car was totaled. I would still be driving it and never getting rid of it if that GDMF illegal bastard hadnt wrecked me. I could not see buying another one for $14k plus and having 50k plus miles on it. I loved that car. I miss that car.

I owe $6k on the brand new HHR, have a 6 year 60k bumper to bumper and 100k powertrain. I like it, I for one think its cool. I got a great rate and im fixing a long standing problem. At 5 years clean and sober its time to get other things in life fixed. As mentioned, not everyone's situation is the same.

QWK SVT
12-19-2007, 12:50 PM
The MM IS my daily driver, and does a great job at it... Big and comfy, with room for me and colleagues, when needed. Room for stuff, and power to move out of it's own way, when motivated.

Keep in mind I pay ~$1.15CDN/liter (do that math, and that's better than $4US/gal), and get less than 20mpg (less now with the winter gas), but it's so worth the additional cost, for the other benefits - Sure, the mileage isn't as good as, say, a Civic... But my 6'6" frame isn't going to fit into that, is it...

Aren Jay
12-19-2007, 08:27 PM
In Calgary we are paying C$1.09/ltr

3.7 x 1.09 =~US$4.04/US Gallon

Plus I get a 5% discount.

Marauder o16
12-19-2007, 09:49 PM
I am in Saudi Arabia

Little knows s/c we have .... We not know the composition

I sell and buy mm s/c equipped by the Americans

Fuel is not costly

Full mobilization only 8 $

Vortech347
12-19-2007, 11:43 PM
I will likely be offloading mine next spring.

Its been an awesome car. Except for... THE DAMN BODY!!! Its been crap. First it came from the factory with a crapy paint job. Then it was repainted by ford and it dosn't match as well as my picky ass would like. Then the drivers side rear door has more rust on it than my 18 year old mustang total that was daily driven in the snow for 15 of them damn years!!! On top of that my stang has 180k this car has 58k.

Drivetrain wise she's been great. When I do sell her I'll miss that 25mph first gear kickdown launch and bark into 2nd. She's smooth and drives awesome.

Replacement ride? Either a newer F150 4dr or a Subaru Legacy GT 5-speed. Its turbo'd, 5-speed, awd, and hauls ass. They are DAMN nice inside too. I got a chance to auto-x one and was AMAZED at how well it did. Yes I know its rice but it fits my needs quite well. The Blue oval dosn't have anything thats a fullsize 4dr fun. OR....I may try and find a low mile MM thats any color other than black.

MADRODER
12-20-2007, 07:04 AM
Remember when you by a new car and borrow for 5 years vs keeping the MM and having it paid off in one year.

Exactly.............I always look at this point also, what's cheaper

1. Doing some car repairs over a period of time (we'll say 3-5k)
2. Or....going into debt for another 4-5 yrs (20-30k)

But, if you can afford switching cars every 2-3 yrs all the power to you, I know I can't.

OneBADLsE
12-20-2007, 07:45 AM
Fuel is not costly

Full mobilization only 8 $


:bigcry::bigcry::mad2::mad2: $8 to fill up!?!?! :eek::eek::eek:

QWK SVT
12-20-2007, 03:12 PM
In Calgary we are paying C$1.09/ltr

3.7 x 1.09 =~US$4.04/US Gallon

Plus I get a 5% discount.

For 94 Octane? That's no fair! Don't the gas prices know this country revolves around Toronto?!? :lol:

RoNiN77
12-20-2007, 08:25 PM
I put mine up for sale in the spring but couldn't go through with it. I wanted to offload before the mileage got too high. Anyway, I kept it and some jackass ran into it on Sunday (went to bar to watch Bills game haha) scratching the rear bumper. It's at the Ford shop now awaiting a bumper re-paint and i hope it matches. I took the oppurtunity to install the rear spoiler too....don't plan on selling for awhile....supercharger might be next after I get married.

Ken
12-20-2007, 08:42 PM
(went to bar to watch Bills game haha) An all around bad day, I'm guessing!!

Ken

sailsmen
12-20-2007, 09:12 PM
....don't plan on selling for awhile....supercharger might be next after I get married.:lol::lol::lol::lol::l ol::lol:

RoNiN77
12-21-2007, 08:13 PM
Hahaha. Very bad day, not to mention the bar I went to was in Tucson, 70 miles from where I live...a complete waste of a day. Shoulda called AZMarauder to talk about T-Birds instead. :beer:

I also think that Sailsmen implies that I may never get my SC because of :argue: LOL

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12-22-2007, 07:53 PM
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04MRADR
12-23-2007, 12:06 AM
Okay everybody. I live in Philadelphia and look in the Inquirer, a newspaper with circulation throughout the Delaware Valley which is essentially Southeastern Pennsylvania, Southern New Jersey and Norhtern Delaware. I've seen only 2 or 3 advertisements to sell Marauders in the last six months. So when I hear about you guys wanting to sell I'm confused. I pay $ 3.09 per gallon for 93 octane in New Jesey and $ 3.29 in Pennsylvania. I have been driving big Mercs since 1977. The Marauder is by far the best ride I've ever had. I took delivery in August 2004 and have 78,000 trouble free miles on it. Every time I see another Marauder on the road I think man what a great looking car with a trimeless design. I don't hammer it, that is race it or abuse it. About 75 to 80 % of my driving is Interstate roads at cruising speed. I had the same driving habits with an 89 Grand Marc and put 235,000 trouble free miles on it. I expect the same from the Marauder. I am not garaging it to save miles. I love driving this thing. Cannot understand why someone would want to sell. If you treat it nice it treats you nice. If eventually the engine, tranny or rear goes I'll replace it! There is one other reason why I intend to keep it and drive it until the day I croack. My late wife passed away nearly three years ago and insisted I buy it since she knew I loved the car so much. I always recall the times she rode in it before she passed and to me she always riding shotgun every time I get in it. She started her heavenly life 6 months after she bought it for me. Also, it is black with the light flint interior. I've had other Marauder owners drool over it when they see the color combination. Only 147 were built for 2004 with the black and light flint combination.

Glenn
12-23-2007, 06:11 PM
Don't for even a moment think you are going to buy a SC after you just get married! Just is not going to happen. If you do buy it before you get married - it was used in really bad shape and you paid $600 for it. $6000 goes into buying a new house NOT some silly car thing!! LOL! Look up Man Rule #42 - "Buying Before Marriage".

Glenn

Marauder o16
12-23-2007, 08:32 PM
That's true

S/C "adolescent Singles" :D

Motorhead350
12-24-2007, 01:48 AM
I'm not selling my car, but my truck is running me about $600 a month in keeping it in the condition I want. I need to get my radio speakers working, 4x4 to stay in gear and hammer my passenger wiper back on. It's all worth it. I'd rather drive junk than drive new. :D The Marauder is just fine and I can still get over 300 miles outta that tank with the 500 Horsepower. :cool:

CRZYBIKER
12-29-2007, 10:47 PM
I went through College working 40 miles cross town spending only 3 hours at my sleeping place for many many months when gas prices were up. If you want it you want it, if you sort of want it you don't. I drove a '76 F-250 with a 427 side oiler (8MPG), God I wish I had that truck back :(. I sold it (after the hard times and from family pressure.) for gas mileage. Worst mistake I ever made. I knew that truck inside and out. Could smoke the tires any time I wanted. Bottom line: if you love your car; keep it or you will regret it.

Stranger in the Black Sedan
12-30-2007, 12:40 AM
I waffle back and forth between wanting to keep and sell my very clean 30k mile MM that has 3.73s and a tune.

I am 24 and I paid cash on the car. It's not saving me a car payment to sell it . I also get paid to commute on the train, so it's not high gas prices that would factor in.

I guess for me, the MM is an in-between car. It is too heavy and massive to be a sports car. I have a sports car already. It is 2 doors, under 3500 lbs, and about 4 feet shorter than the MM. When I start thinking about modding the MM further, I realize that it would be encroaching on my sports car, but without the small size, light weight, and nimbleness that the sports car has. So a fast big heavy car, for me, is not really something I want to do. A 12 second 4200 lb 19 foot long car is not something that I would want to drive. You guys who drive these cars supercharged must be really great drivers, because I would not be comfortable trying to maneuver this car w/ the slow factory steering ratio and huge steering wheel around corners with the tail sliding around. Kudos to you guys who are comfortable doing so! I know my limitations as a driver and I would not be comfortable piloting that long of a wheelbase car around town. w/ that much power on tap.

I guess a midsize 4 door w/ some power is more my style, because then I feel a lot more comfortable darting around w/ less overall length and mass being thrown around. However the MM is commanding on the highway and drives nice, so I do appreciate it for that. And the 4.6 mill does a good job moving this car considering how small it is, and how large the car is. The fact that it can give a 5.7 in the Impala a run for its money, and it is more than a liter smaller, says something.

I had a powerful midsize 4 door w/ very low miles, and sold it to buy this car. So I can never get it "just right" with my "driver" car. There can always be something better (that probably doesn't exist). I am trying to make myself hold on to this car for a while so I don't keep jumping around and taking a $$$ hit buying and selling cars outright. I took a $4500 hit moving from a low mileage 03 Acura TL Type S into this car, and I'd probably take at least another $4000 hit selling this car for its current depreciated value. And then I'm sure whatever I bought after this car, would also have some things I would not be thrilled with. Oh well.

What is making me NOT sell the MM?:
1. Uniqueness. I don't get as much of a kick out of people stopping me and wanting to know about my car as I did back when I was in high school, but at least I know my car is not a totally bland appliance. It says something that Ford took the dime a dozen CV/GM that is on every street corner everywhere, and made it a clear stand-out, just w/ clever use of some different body moldings and trim. That's worth something to me.

2. Comfort. There are midsize cars with just as much front and back seat leg room as this car (most of our length is wasted on huge gigantic rear trunk overhang, and outrageously long nose), but the driver's seat is comfy enough that I don't hate it on long trips. So that's a plus. This car does have a lot more width inside than most, which I appreciate. I'm a pretty skinny guy but not being claustrophobic is nice. The backseat passengers aren't my top priority anyway, I am!

3. Power is very acceptable. You can get just as much power to weight ratio w/ much better gas mileage nowadays w/ variable valve timed V6 imports, but the 4.6 DOHC does run very well. It certainly sounds more muscular than a V6.

4. Command of the Road feeling. There aren't too many cars that feel this commanding driving down the freeway. You'd usually have to drive a big SUV to feel this in control of the road. The MM feels very rock solid going down the highway.

So there is my complete run down, in all honesty. I think Ford did a very good job considering the luxo-cruiser platform they were working with, and keeping the car cost effective. I am very tired and cranky and I'm sure I'll get flamed tomorrow for being too honest. But that's okay. Ask me on different days how much I like this car and you'll get different answers. It takes something you give a crap about to have a love/hate relationship with it, right? So I guess that I can be rated as, I give a crap about this car. That's a lot more than I can say about a lot of cars.

sailsmen
12-30-2007, 05:46 AM
The 12 second Marauder handles a lot better than you think it does;
Open your mind and enjoy - http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forum...hlight=pantera

NATEHAWK
12-30-2007, 08:29 AM
I wouldnt sell my MM for anything on the road. I needed I would just have to pick up a partime job to pay it.

JimmyXR7
12-30-2007, 10:00 AM
Gas prices are making me look at selling mine. I'm stationed in North Carolina and live in Michigan and almost never go home when I can just cause it cost so much for gas to drive there and drive around while home. It easily cost me over 200 to go to and from home and thats if I don't go anywhere while home and do nothing while home. Will probably end up with something with a 4 cyl or something I can save up enough to pay cash for that way I can save my payments for gas.

Gasoline was more expensive when I was in my early 20s. Gasoline was very costly at $1.55 a gallon, 94.5 octane, and I did not want to spend my hard earned money for it. (Homes were at $100K -1979) (now, Gasoline is $3.75 a gallon, 91 octane, and homes are $700K)
So I bought a motorcycle as in LA it only rained occasionally from Jan to May. The Honda Hawk, 400cc, got about 52 MPG and cost me $1200 used with 150 miles on it. The guy took a spill on the way home from work the first week he owned it and decided to spend the extra money for gas.
I was riding to work against the main traffic flow, so It was great to learn to ride as traffic was light. A co-worker rode a Suzuki 175cc to work and got 78MPG. However he could not use the freeway some afternoons if it was windy as the Suzuki could not maintain freeway speeds (60 MPH) against a head wind.
I kept my '68 cougar muscle car and still have it in the garage. If you decide to buy a econo-vehicle, keep your MM as it is a true factory custom vehicle.
Jim

Stranger in the Black Sedan
12-30-2007, 10:36 AM
I thought this post was about why people might sell an mm?

hbarrett
12-30-2007, 10:39 AM
Hello, I used to live in Scottsdale off Cactus Road, and a good friend lives on Greenway lane in Phoenix. I moved from there in 1987 and have been trying to find a job there so I can move back ever since. I am selling my 2004 silver birch MM. I really am not happy about selling it, but the past six months I have driven it only a few times, it's a terrible waste. I am working on the Aberdeen Proving Ground Army testing base in Maryland, and I refuse to drive my MM in that filthy wet muddy, pot hole environment, so I drive my minivan 90% of the time. Only driving the MM once or twice a week is just not good use of the car. I have taken impeccable care of it, and it is very sound, only 36000 miles. I bought it new and have really liked it a lot, but I am not about to ruin it, or let it sit idle. I had some health issues during the past three years, and the money from the MM sale would help me to address the debt I encountered. You could easily fly here one way, and within a few days be back in AZ if you are looking for an excellent MM that will last for years Howard
If any one is in the western US and considering selling let me know, I am in AZ and looking. Thanks!

Billzstangin66
12-30-2007, 02:30 PM
I am actually looking for a Marauder, partially to lower my expenses...

I drive a 2004 dodge ram 1500 quad-cab 4.7L getting about 11 city/16 highway.
I would get better milage with a MM, my insurance would go up $2 a month. I also wouldn't have to pay an extra $80 for registration on a truck every year...

Having a hard time deciding if i need the truck or not ;(

SideshowBob
12-30-2007, 04:07 PM
I like my Marauder. I like driving it and I like just looking at it. However, it mainly just sits in the driveway because my wife and I ride our motorcycles more than we drive the car. If I were to sell, it would only be to get out from under the montly payment. I'm 6'8" tall and weigh... a lot. I don't know of any vehicle that I would fit comfortably in that would get appreciably better gas mileage, so my only monetary incentive to sell would be if I could replace it with a paid-for, comfortable, weekend grocery-getter and put the $400 per month payment toward something more fun, like more weekend motorcycle trips. :banana:


However, everything's for sale... at the right price. So if the dude in AZ lookin' to buy wants to make me an offer I can't refuse... :coolman:

Professor
12-31-2007, 06:58 AM
I use mine as a daily driver. With kids, it's just more comfortable than small cars to move the clan around and it is safer. I will probably keep her another at least another 3 or 4 years. I only put about 5,000 miles on her a year, so fuel costs don't bug me much.

To be honest, I miss my Bullitt Stang and will probably buy another Stang as a toy in the next 2 years. I'd love to buy a Terminator Cobra, but the prices are getting obnoxious. I may wait for about 3 years for the 08 Bullitt to depreciate (I don't like buying new anymore when cars tend to depreciate by 40-50% in 3 years.). Or I may pick up another well cared for 01 Bullitt or 03/04 Mach 1. I miss banging gears. Or, I could just buy a clean current gen GT. Then you get a car that turns mid 13's out of the box and can be coaxed into the 12's with minimal mods.