4.10 on the highway & DD marauder

[ta3mo3]

Hi :cool4:

for the 4.10 user
can i drive my MM on the highway long distance with the 4.10 ?
will the 4.10 make diffrance for stock 300A ?

the time from 0 to 60 will be ?


:bs: :help:

[fastblackmerc]

Hi :cool4:

for the 4.10 user
can i drive my MM on the highway long distance with the 4.10 ?
will the 4.10 make diffrance for stock 300A ?

the time from 0 to 60 will be ?


:bs: :help:

Why wouldn't you be able to drive long distances with 4.10's??? :confused:

Search on 4.10's to see what others have said about the differences after adding 4.10's.

Your 0 to 60 time will depend on how hard you push the go pedal, your reaction time, traffic, etc......

Oh boy... if this is any indication of what's in store for 2008...... :shake::shake:

[Blackened300a]

Oh boy... if this is any indication of what's in store for 2008...... :shake::shake:

Yeah the car is getting older, wait a few more years when the 4th and 5th owners arrive and start doing body kits with big rims. :bigcry:

[Speed]

Yeap, it looks like where heading that direction. Younger generation means bigger rims :puke:. Its all for looks, it serves no purpose, at least get the right suspension set up :twocents:. For some cars its o.k. but on everything, someone please school them :bop:

[sailsmen]

There are thousands and thousands of post. Try using the search and then ask the question.

I lost .5 MPG on the highway and yes you can drive it as long as you want to.

With a tune, 4:10 and the Super Quite Old School UD Pullies 0-60MPH 6.3-6.5.

Stay away from the Super Charging Sounding Old School UD Pullies because the ALt cuts off at WOT, less cooling at idle, .............................. ......... Just get the electric water pump.

The 4:10 will make a difference w/ any 2003-04 Marauder.

[gmtech]

Hi :cool4:

for the 4.10 user
can i drive my MM on the highway long distance with the 4.10 ?
will the 4.10 make diffrance for stock 300A ?

the time from 0 to 60 will be ?


:bs: :help:
i dont have 4.10s but my experience with this forum is your better off using the search button because you only bother the 1st gen owners or senior members with questions ...they pretty much only talk about feelings not cars and all us younger generations only want to copy a MM or put large rims on it:shake::puke:so stereo-typical

[fastblackmerc]

i dont have 4.10s but my experience with this forum is your better off using the search button because you only bother the 1st gen owners or senior members with questions ...they pretty much only talk about feelings not cars and all us younger generations only want to copy a MM or put large rims on it:shake::puke:so stereo-typical

We don't mind answering questions..... the problem is answering the same questions over and over and over and over again.

Talk about stereo types!

[gmtech]

just trying to let the newbie know....ill go back to my search button friend:)

[freakstatus]

We don't mind answering questions..... the problem is answering the same questions over and over and over and over again.

Talk about stereo types!

There are always gonna be new Marauder owners though....

[JeffGrice]

my boys drove the rauder to Florida and then to newport beach ca with 4:10s - got over 20mpg.

Jeff

[RedMerc04]

We don't mind answering questions..... the problem is answering the same questions over and over and over and over again.

Talk about stereo types!
+2. These 4.10 gear threads are becoming as common as Oil threads...
You guys should give him credit, he is driving a marauder rather than any other crap that most of us younger guys would be typically driving.

P.S. Im 19 and I feel that the stock rims are great. Buying larger rims is probably the stupidist investment that one can make for their marauder due to their cost, and the fact that they make the car look retarded and they actually decrease the cars acceleration.

[GreekGod]

Many have said our MM should have come from the factory with 4.10 gears, but Federal government C.A.F.E (corporate average fuel economy) standards, and other considerations dictated the use of the relatively economical 3.55 ratio, which is actually an excellent "street" gear ratio, especially for those of us that drive more than 1/4 mile at a time. ;)

Our chassis & drivetrain is so economical, the switch to a 4.10 ratio (as was stated) loses very little fuel economy, and adds much to throttle response.

[sailsmen]

I suggest using the search button to do research and get educated.

Then posting a question to get the latest "feelings" on the subject.

[bob6364]

I looked all over my keyboard and can't find the "Search Button" ....Bahahahaaha :flamer:

[1gtx]

.5 sec in the 1/4 mile.

No difference in fuel economy around town (unless you always drive in 1st gear :-). Will cost about 4mpg on the highway (assuming the converter locked up all the time). If you do a lot of general in town/freeway driving you'll see the impact on your gas mileage, but you'll probably be a drop of only about 2mpg.

Of course that's assuming that you can keep you're foot from pressing harder on the gas pedal moving away from a stoplight because you like being pressed back in your seat :-)

[sailsmen]

I think you mean .4 mpg. My experience and others .5 less mpg on highway.

[burt ragio]

The 4:10 gear change was a good decison. The change is apx 500-600 rpm. Gas milage very little drop. It make the car feel much lighter. It is more responsive off line and moves in and out of traffic with greater ease. Worth every cent if you don't plan on a Trillogy supercharger.

[Vortech347]

I'm hoping whats in store for 2008 is friendlier first answers for new people.

4.10's are just fine for freeway and extended driving times. Even at 80mph. Your RPM's will prolly be around 2700ish @ 80. For what its worth our my wife's cobra has 4.30's and turns 3100 @ 80 and we drove it like that cross country and it did 24mpg and ran great. 4.10's are a great addition to any marauder and it will help every aspect of your cars acceleration. I would of done them but I had 3.73's layin around.

[sailsmen]

Many Trilogy owners have 4:10's including the personal MM of Lidio the Tuner who developed the Trilogy.

Most of the Trilogy in the top 30 on the Timeslips page run 4:10. The only one I know of that does not is MI2 running 3:73.

[knine]

I looked all over my keyboard and can't find the "Search Button" ....Bahahahaaha :flamer:
It's right next to the "any" key doofus. ;)

[RoNiN77]

^^^ LOL Gotta give the newbies a break from time to time. I've been here for a year and still get confused way too easily. Here are some links with good responses to my dumb questions...hahaha

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30864&page=3 (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30864&page=3)

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30206


:lol:

[Blackmobile]

yes I regret putting on the 4.10's in reguards to long trips.

No, I will not pull them out because of this,

Dream mode on: It would be nice to switch back and forth for long trips. dream mode off.

Down side: I lost 1 mpg after the install

UpSide: More Power Scotty

[FormulaMarauder]

I just installed 4.10's a few months ago. Should of installed them the second I bought the car. Didnt notice a mileage difference, but then again, I have headers,full exhaust and a CAI, so those probably helped a bit in the long run.
RPMs up a few hundred, but it appears to be right where it should........in the powerband. :P

[RF Overlord]

OK, here's a real answer from an old guy.

I waited way too long to put the 4.10s in...shoulda done it much sooner.

Drove the car from MA to Michigan to have Lidio tune it...detoured to Cleveland on the way back for the spring meet...got a smidge over 21 MPG at 75-80 MPH with a week's work of luggage and "stuff".

[mrjones]

[QUOTE=Blackmobile;565840]yes I regret putting on the 4.10's in reguards to long trips.


Me too, although right now I'm running 235/50's on all four corners and that amplifies the effects of the gears. Being able to rotate the tires has made a huge difference in tire wear.

I think the real solution to the gearing problem with this car would be the 6spd auto trans out of the Explorer. It has a REALLY steep 1st gear that would eliminate the need for the 4.10's.

[piglit50]

Yeap, it looks like where heading that direction. Younger generation means bigger rims :puke:. Its all for looks, it serves no purpose, at least get the right suspension set up :twocents:. For some cars its o.k. but on everything, someone please school them :bop:

Not to worry i`m 18 and all performance and the stock rimes are just fine.... i would never put 22 inch rims on my MM:beer:

[SC Cheesehead]

Yeah the car is getting older, wait a few more years when the 4th and 5th owners arrive and start doing body kits with big rims. :bigcry:

....and fart cannons, primered fenders, whale-tail rear spoilers, fender decals.....:puke:

SCCH

[RF Overlord]

Does anyone know how to spell MARAUDER in Kanji?

:eek:

[fastblackmerc]

略奪

Found it here:

http://www.kanjidic.com/

[1gtx]

I'll standby the 4mpg loss on the freeway. This is *strictly* freeway I'm talking about.

I ran two sets of tests. Both sets consisted of were filling up tank at side of freeway, ease car on freeway up to 75mph drive, set cruise control and drive until tank empty. Then take freeway off ramp, fill up tank and record.

This was flat as board driving in Florida over three days of consistent weather. Same route. Boring. (My wife was recovering from a liver transplant and I was bored out of my mind.)

First test: =26mpg. Stock program, 3.55, locked up stock converter.
2nd test: =26.5mpg. Reinhart tune, 3.55, locked up stock converter.
3rd test: =22mpg. Stock program, 4.10, locked up 3K steeda converter.
4th test: =22.5mpg. Reinhart tune, 4.10, locked up 3K steeda converter.

This was done with a naturally aspirated 300a with 60K on the clock, stock tires, wheels, suspension, exhaust, improved air intake, ~100 degrees outside temp, A/C on full time, 80% tint all around (except lower 16 inches of windshield). A pretty normal southern marauder (originally from Houston).

Unusual note: My gas mileage went *up* slightly with Dennis' tune. When on the dyno he said the the fuel curve was running pretty fat stock (~11:1) on my car.

The straight on/straight off the freeway and locked up otherwise takes the converter out of the mix. The cruise control takes my foot out of the mix. The weather was hot as hell, but consistent so it was out of the mix (same time of day as well). Gas was same brand (Chevron), same octane (93).

I also repeated the second part of the test a year later in Oregon. Brand changed to 76, octane to 92, weather was 60 degrees cooler, speed down to 70 (which is still 5-15 over--argh!), and I-5 isn't nearly as flat. Results were 21 and 21.5 respectively. Not much difference.

Again this is strictly freeway driving. Unless driving huge distances most driver's rarely do this. For me mixed driving (50%freeway/50% intown) is about 18. It varies from 16 to 20 depending how much I'm playing the loud pedal :-)

From a strictly logical point of view, 3.55 to 4.10 is a 15.5% increase in RPM. 28mpg / 115.5 X 100 = 24.24mpg -- a 3.76 mpg expected loss not including additional expected frictional losses. Pretty much dead on to reality.

Unless the laws of physics have recently changed or these engines are a whole lot more efficient at the higher rpm (if so I'm ordering a set of 6.30s!) there's no way to have less than a 1.5% cost (.4 mpg off 28 mpg) for a 15+% increase in loaded engine RPM.

However, I believe that the gears actually *help* in town mileage by getting our heavy cars (4400+#) moving from a dead stop. Couple it with a loose converter though and any gains all disappear in heat.

[RF Overlord]

略奪Awesome!

I'm gonna have 2 giant stickers made up and put that on my side windows...or maybe put them on the doors, and crooked...OOH...it'll just about fit over my Veilside and GReddy Racing stickers...that should put the fear of God into a couple of Civics...

[RedMerc04]

....and fart cannons, primered fenders, whale-tail rear spoilers, fender decals.....:puke:

SCCH
Well only time will tell... Hopefully the marauder doesnt become the "pimpala SS" of ten years from now. Hopefully the low production #s will keep the marauders in the garages of more mature owners so it does not become a gangbanger/wanna be gangbanger mobile.

[SC Cheesehead]

Awesome!

I'm gonna have 2 giant stickers made up and put that on my side windows...or maybe put them on the doors, and crooked...OOH...it'll just about fit over my Veilside and GReddy Racing stickers...that should put the fear of God into a couple of Civics...

Bob,

A carbon fiber fart cannon and/or wing spoiler will do the same thing!;)

SCCH

[SC Cheesehead]

Well only time will tell... Hopefully the marauder doesnt become the "pimpala SS" of ten years from now. Hopefully the low production #s will keep the marauders in the garages of more mature owners so it does not become a gangbanger/wanna be gangbanger mobile.

Agreed. IMO, the car's too classy for that fate.

SCCH