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ctrlraven
01-11-2008, 06:46 PM
So I was just checking my email and 2 of my emails said this.




YouTube | Broadcast Yourself™
Dear Member:

This is to notify you that we have removed or disabled access to the following material as a result of a third-party notification by King Holmes Paterno and Berliner claiming that this material is infringing:

JoeWalsh Run # 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEHc2NnwFbw

Please Note: Repeat incidents of copyright infringement will result in the deletion of your account and all videos uploaded to that account. In order to prevent this from happening, please delete any videos to which you do not own the rights, and refrain from uploading additional videos that infringe on the copyrights of others. For more information about YouTube's copyright policy, please read the Copyright Tips guide.

If you elect to send us a counter notice, please go to our Help Center to access the instructions.
Be aware that there may be adverse legal consequences in your country if you make a false or bad faith allegation of copyright infringement by using this process.

Sincerely,
YouTube, Inc.





YouTube | Broadcast Yourself™
Dear Member:

This is to notify you that we have removed or disabled access to the following material as a result of a third-party notification by King Holmes Paterno and Berliner claiming that this material is infringing:

JoeWalsh Run # 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53ji2r3NRS0

Please Note: Repeat incidents of copyright infringement will result in the deletion of your account and all videos uploaded to that account. In order to prevent this from happening, please delete any videos to which you do not own the rights, and refrain from uploading additional videos that infringe on the copyrights of others. For more information about YouTube's copyright policy, please read the Copyright Tips guide.

If you elect to send us a counter notice, please go to our Help Center to access the instructions.
Be aware that there may be adverse legal consequences in your country if you make a false or bad faith allegation of copyright infringement by using this process.

Sincerely,
YouTube, Inc.


For anyone that knows JoeWalsh he is a resident to MD just as I am. We were both at the local drag strip for a Sunday Test & Tune and I recored his runs with my own camera and now some idiots are trying to claim that this material is infringing.

Anyone who knows about legal stuff can you chime in? I asume if I get anymore notices then my videos will be removed and my youtube account will be closed. Some of the videos I have on there I no longer have the original video of which would really :mad2: me off if my account gets closed.

Youtube Help Center
http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=59826

This is such complete BS!!!!!! Out of all the videos I have why just these two videos of JoeWalsh's????

hot-rauder
01-11-2008, 06:53 PM
So I was just checking my email and 2 of my emails said this.





For anyone that knows JoeWalsh he is a resident to MD just as I am. We were both at the local drag strip for a Sunday Test & Tune and I recored his runs with my own camera and now some idiots are trying to claim that this material is infringing.

Anyone who knows about legal stuff can you chime in? I asume if I get anymore notices then my videos will be removed and my youtube account will be closed. Some of the videos I have on there I no longer have the original video of which would really :mad2: me off if my account gets closed.

Youtube Help Center
http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=59826

This is such complete BS!!!!!! Out of all the videos I have why just these two videos of JoeWalsh's????


Have you spoken to Joe? He might have claimed infringment because the videos contain him..... although that seems awfully shady and not like anyone on this forum.

you do leaglly own the rights because the videos were taken with your camera.

the only other scenario i could think of would be that the drag strip in which they were taken either A: no longer allows cameras, resulting in them wanting videos of their strip taken down, or B: they are claiming rights to it because it was taken at their track

ctrlraven
01-11-2008, 07:01 PM
The videos were taken on 11/19/2006.
JoeWalsh, merc6, 2ndMDrebal and my friend Matt were all present there that day and I have videos of all 4 of them and videos of myself racing. This is going to have me steaming until I get it figured out.

hot-rauder
01-11-2008, 07:07 PM
The videos were taken on 11/19/2006.
JoeWalsh, merc6, 2ndMDrebal and my friend Matt were all present there that day and I have videos of all 4 of them and videos of myself racing. This is going to have me steaming until I get it figured out.

Ask YouTube who claimed video rights and let them know that the videos were taken with your camera and you have witnessess.... if you want to take it that far

MarauderMark
01-11-2008, 07:11 PM
Ask YouTube who claimed video rights and let them know that the videos were taken with your camera and you have witnessess.... if you want to take it that far

Also have joe say something as well since they say its his.

This who claimed it~~>
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by King Holmes Paterno and Berliner ..
Its kneel and bob or at least thats what they do:rofl:

ctrlraven
01-11-2008, 07:22 PM
Ask YouTube who claimed video rights and let them know that the videos were taken with your camera and you have witnessess.... if you want to take it that far

To do that I have to file some counter claim. I already downloaded and printed "The Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998" which I got the link from youtube.

I hope MartyO can chime in on this with some advice.

Joe Walsh
01-11-2008, 07:39 PM
Hey Chris!

I KNOW WHY they did it!

They didn't want anyone to be able to prove that an N/A Marauder could run 12s!!!!

J/K...Actually, I have NO idea why they sent that to you.
I don't think that I ran the same guy in the two videos...and I have no problem with you posting them...so I don't know what is going on.:dunno:

CRUZTAKER
01-11-2008, 07:42 PM
Call one of them.

Call them anything you want.:D

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ctrlraven
01-11-2008, 07:45 PM
Hey Chris!

I KNOW WHY they did it!

They didn't want anyone to be able to prove that an N/A Marauder could run 12s!!!!

J/K...Actually, I have NO idea why they sent that to you.
I don't think that I ran the same guy in the two videos...and I have no problem with you posting them...so I don't know what is going on.:dunno:

That's another reason why I am ticked because you did two back to back 12.99 runs which I was amazed by. I know you asked me to take a second video to see if both tires were turning in the waterbox and if you were spinning off the line.

I am going to try find some video editing software that will allow me to do watermarks and I am going upload the videos again.

Joe Walsh
01-11-2008, 07:49 PM
King, Holmes & Paterno.....?!?!?

Sounds like a boxing match with the Nittany Lions!

Starman
01-11-2008, 08:03 PM
....if I get anymore notices then my videos will be removed and my youtube account will be closed. Some of the videos I have on there I no longer have the original video of which would really :mad2: me off if my account gets closed.

If you use Firefox, go get this add-on. Fast Video Download (http://rpocc.livejournal.com/43565.html) It will allow you to download youtube videos and any other videos online onto your hard drive. It works great. I also found some add-ons for windows media player to play flv files, which youtube uses. I can't remember where I got those add-ons. The videos look better on WMP than on youtube.

Hope this helps!

ctrlraven
01-11-2008, 08:13 PM
I'm just going to have to wait until Monday to call a laywer for some advice unless MartyO reads this before then and wait to see if I get served with papers.

Here is the link with the information on filing a counter-claim.
http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=59826

Bluerauder
01-11-2008, 08:41 PM
I'm just going to have to wait until Monday to call a laywer for some advice unless MartyO reads this before then and wait to see if I get served with papers.

I suspect that the law firm of KHB & P just cast a very wide net to capture videos of a certain types using a search program or spider/worm. Maybe this is related to the music industry videos and they have their Joe Walsh's screwed up. This ain't Joe Walsh from the band. It's Joe Walsh from the Marauder.Net race team. KHP&B need to know that. Maybe they represent "the other" Joe Walsh. :dunno:

Maybe our Joe Walsh should file a counter-suit that the music guy is infringing on the use of his name. ;)

Easiest solution is to change the file title to some like "Marauder JoeW at CR" and reload them. :D

BruteForce
01-11-2008, 09:09 PM
Sounds like the law firm of Dewey, Skruwm, and Howe.

Bluerauder
01-11-2008, 09:11 PM
Sounds like the law firm of Dewey, Skruwm, and Howe.

Formerly known as Dewey, Cheatham & Howe.

RCSignals
01-11-2008, 09:57 PM
could it be over music used in the video?

It's kind of a severe reaction of You tube not to get your side of the issue first

ctrlraven
01-11-2008, 10:08 PM
There was no music in the video. Just recording JoeWalsh drag racing and at the end of each video (because my camera zoom sucked) I read out what his ET and MPH was, that's it.

RCSignals
01-11-2008, 11:28 PM
Maybe repost them but change the titles so it doesn't say Joe Walsh?.
or if you don't change the title post a disclaimer that it isn't "Joe Walsh" the entertainer.

Seems Joe might have to change hiis name. There's an idea, have Joe Walsh create a You tube account and post the videos.....

BruteForce
01-12-2008, 02:15 AM
Formerly known as Dewey, Cheatham & Howe.

Memory fades as I... um... err... :confused:

cyclopsram
01-12-2008, 05:36 AM
A fine Cambridge (Boston) firm represented on the air by Click and Clack the Tappet Brothers...on your local PBS radio station..

ckadiddle
01-12-2008, 06:37 AM
Sounds like "law firm to the stars" uses the internet to try and drum up business. "Joe Walsh" the recording artist didn't occur to me until mentioned above. Try posting the next one as "Pat Benatar Run number 3" and see if you get the same response. ;) Creative Evility, that's my motto. I suspect it was sent by an automated program that scours youtube and other such sites to protect stars copyright rights. However, IIRC that initially recording artists did NOT want their songs played on the radio in the early days. I would want ALL my stuff on youtube freely accessible.

Blackened300a
01-12-2008, 06:47 AM
You sure its not a fake email? I used to send out gags like that to my friends who downloaded music. It would say thatt they downloaded a song that was traced to their account and they are going to be facing a lawsuit for copyrighted material.
I never heard of Youtube closing a account for a track event. I even have a few vids where I used music and I never recieved a email so I would suspect its a gag.

Joe Walsh
01-12-2008, 08:46 AM
I suspect that the law firm of KHB & P just cast a very wide net to capture videos of a certain types using a search program or spider/worm. Maybe this is related to the music industry videos and they have their Joe Walsh's screwed up. This ain't Joe Walsh from the band. It's Joe Walsh from the Marauder.Net race team. KHP&B need to know that. Maybe they represent "the other" Joe Walsh. :dunno:

Maybe our Joe Walsh should file a counter-suit that the music guy is infringing on the use of his name. ;)

Easiest solution is to change the file title to some like "Marauder JoeW at CR" and reload them. :D


Maybe repost them but change the titles so it doesn't say Joe Walsh?.or if you don't change the title post a disclaimer that it isn't "Joe Walsh" the entertainer.

Seems Joe might have to change his name. There's an idea, have Joe Walsh create a You tube account and post the videos.....


Sounds like "law firm to the stars" uses the internet to try and drum up business. "Joe Walsh" the recording artist didn't occur to me until mentioned above. Try posting the next one as "Pat Benatar Run number 3" and see if you get the same response. ;) Creative Evility, that's my motto. I suspect it was sent by an automated program that scours youtube and other such sites to protect stars copyright rights. However, IIRC that initially recording artists did NOT want their songs played on the radio in the early days. I would want ALL my stuff on youtube freely accessible.


That's exactly what it is...I didn't even think of it until I read all your posts.

They are trying to eliminate copywrited videos of entertainers that have been posted online and my name matches the 'other' Joe Walsh from the James Gang/Eagles.

I should file a counter claim...I'm the REAL Joe Walsh!!!...:mad:

sailsmen
01-12-2008, 09:08 AM
Run up the bill. Defense atty love to churn the file.

Paul T. Casey
01-12-2008, 10:23 AM
http://www.bmcforums.com/showthread.php?t=42402

May be something to do with this ^^^. I haven't read the whole thing, but I have also found similar stuff. May be part of a big Toyota conspiracy, make us all hate on our Fords.

hot-rauder
01-12-2008, 02:34 PM
That's exactly what it is...I didn't even think of it until I read all your posts.

They are trying to eliminate copywrited videos of entertainers that have been posted online and my name matches the 'other' Joe Walsh from the James Gang/Eagles.

I should file a counter claim...I'm the REAL Joe Walsh!!!...:mad:


obscure reference... Office Space. One of the characters names is Micheal Bolton and he always says when asked why he doesn't justgo by Mike, " Why should i have to change my name! He is the one that sucks!":D

Aren Jay
01-12-2008, 02:55 PM
Have a lawyer in the family? Have them send a lawyers letter to this law firm claiming suit against them for copyright infringement. You have the original they do not. Also file a claim with youtube against this law firm.

GreekGod
01-12-2008, 06:19 PM
That's exactly what it is...I didn't even think of it until I read all your posts.

They are trying to eliminate copywrited videos of entertainers that have been posted online and my name matches the 'other' Joe Walsh from the James Gang/Eagles.

I should file a counter claim...I'm the REAL Joe Walsh!!!...:mad:

You must start adding & using your middle name, if it is different than the other Joe Walsh! :lol:

ctrlraven
01-12-2008, 06:35 PM
You sure its not a fake email? I used to send out gags like that to my friends who downloaded music. It would say thatt they downloaded a song that was traced to their account and they are going to be facing a lawsuit for copyrighted material.
I never heard of Youtube closing a account for a track event. I even have a few vids where I used music and I never recieved a email so I would suspect its a gag.


If it was a gag then the videos wouldn't have been removed off my youtube account because they were. I had kind of thought that also.

I went through all my videos and added a copyright in the description of who recorded and owns the video. Sad that I have to do that.

MarauderMark
01-12-2008, 08:12 PM
There is not just 1 joe walsh in the world..:rolleyes:

RCSignals
01-12-2008, 08:17 PM
.............

I should file a counter claim...I'm the REAL Joe Walsh!!!...:mad:

Could be the other Joe Walsh is a stage name

RCSignals
01-12-2008, 08:18 PM
Have a lawyer in the family? Have them send a lawyers letter to this law firm claiming suit against them for copyright infringement. You have the original they do not. Also file a claim with youtube against this law firm.

True. He has the original of that video, and Joe Walsh to back him up

Haggis
01-14-2008, 06:27 AM
That's exactly what it is...I didn't even think of it until I read all your posts.

They are trying to eliminate copywrited videos of entertainers that have been posted online and my name matches the 'other' Joe Walsh from the James Gang/Eagles.

I should file a counter claim...I'm the REAL Joe Walsh!!!...:mad:

But, then Joe you will need to provide documents to the fact that your name is really 'Joe Walsh' and then they will be able to track your legal status as a US citizens. Which in turn could effect your recent marriage.

magindat
01-14-2008, 06:49 AM
Send the videos to me and I will host them for you!!! Screw YOUTUBE!!!