HID question

[Drewstang]

I bought a HID kit from a local Mustang board. Its an exsun 9007 bi-xenon kit, and it only has one 9007 input instead of two. The problem is, the high and low beams are reversed. I tried reversing the wires in the stock headlight plug and the input plug with no change. Has anyone ever heard of this problem or experienced it themselves?

[TiTo35]

I am looking to get an HID conversion...how much did yours cost?

[DOOM]

I think when you do the HID conversion you loose your HI beams. As BRIGHT as those lights are you probably wont need them anyways :coolman:

[Raudermaster]

Doom, bi-xenon's mean they have low's and high's. Straight HID's don't have high's, like my kit. What do you mean they're reversed? Could you take a picture I think it would be much easier to see it than have you describe it.

[Drewstang]

I paid $200 for them.

Raudermaster, basically in the normal (low beam) position the high beams are on and in the high beam position the low beams are on. I tried reversing the blue and green wires on the plug that normally goes to the stock headlight bulb. My kit only has one 9007 input plug to sense high and low beams. I tried switching the wires on the input plug around with no change. Its way too cold to go snap pics.

[Raudermaster]

All HID's only have one input to the ballast. That doesn't sound good, it sounds like something internally is ****ed up. Exchange them.

[airborne_mp84]

I bought a HID kit from a local Mustang board. Its an exsun 9007 bi-xenon kit, and it only has one 9007 input instead of two. The problem is, the high and low beams are reversed. I tried reversing the wires in the stock headlight plug and the input plug with no change. Has anyone ever heard of this problem or experienced it themselves?i have a 12000 watt hid kit...sorry but you will loose your high beam..it cost me around $400

[grampaws]

some headlights use one Power wire connected where the ground usuallly is.
and ground the high and low beam, side of the bulb. It is possible the
power and grounds are different than what is required to operate the
ballast. Check that power and grounds are correct with the required
ones for the balast.. adding a relay can be used to change this..
Idon't have the car here so I can't check this here!
Use a test light you should have two powers and one ground.
must be something that is being missed on the ballast schematic!??
On the freestar green and blk is the HI positive
Red and blk is the low positive
solid black is ground.

[Blackened300a]

Put the wires from your stock harness back to the way they were.
Reversing the wires from the stock harness does nothing. When you get it hooked up, put on your high beams and see if they light. If they do and your low beams dont, flip the plug upside down from the ballast to the new bulbs. There is a lock tab on both sides for this exact reason.

[OneBADLsE]

Put the wires from your stock harness back to the way they were.
Reversing the wires from the stock harness does nothing. When you get it hooked up, put on your high beams and see if they light. If they do and your low beams dont, flip the plug upside down from the ballast to the new bulbs. There is a lock tab on both sides for this exact reason.

sounds similar to the install problem we had on mine

[superford3]

I also had to flip the wires when i installed my kit on the marauder and also my cobra, i was told its because of the fog lights

[Raudermaster]

i have a 12000 watt hid kit...sorry but you will loose your high beam..it cost me around $400

Sorry pal, you mean you have a 12000K kit, not watt. You will only lose your high beams if you DON'T have a BI-XENON kit.

[Raudermaster]

I don't know why you guys are having all sorts of problmes with these. :dunno: I plugged mine in, mounted the ballasts and off I went.

[Jolly Roger]

I bought a HID kit from a local Mustang board. Its an exsun 9007 bi-xenon kit, and it only has one 9007 input instead of two. The problem is, the high and low beams are reversed. I tried reversing the wires in the stock headlight plug and the input plug with no change. Has anyone ever heard of this problem or experienced it themselves?

Had the same problem with the ones that I got from ebay.
Call the seller or manufactuer, they will tell you how to rewire the plug so that they function properly.:o

[Speed]

Raudermaster,
Which brand did you purchase? I plan to add this option to MM as and I like the plug and play option vs all this rewiring.

[Drewstang]

I'll try flipping the plug today. I bought these from a member and not from a company so I can't exchange them. He doesn't have the directions anymore and I can't find a kit like it on ebay. The kit I have is made by Exsun.

[grampaws]

Like this??

http://www.exsun.com/Product.asp

Email them for wiring info??!
click the info button and ask them..

[ctrlraven]

This is the reason why I paid a little more to have less headaches lol.

I bought a McCulloch 6000k Bi-xenon kit from www.xenonpros.com (http://www.xenonpros.com). It was all pretty much plug and play besides hooking up the power/ground wires and modifying the the grommet where the factory wires ran into the back of the headlamp.

A lot of people misunderstand the meaning of bi-xenon and think there is actually a higher watt current, which some kits do have but that's not really required. When switching to high beam it shifts the filament and allows the light to shine higher up

:Clickable links:

BEFORE
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/th_DSCF0228Large.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF0228Large.jpg)

After
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/th_DSCF0239Large.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF0239Large.jpg)

Kit
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/th_DSCF0230Large.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF0230Large.jpg)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/th_DSCF0231Large.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF0231Large.jpg)

Housing/grommet modified
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/th_DSCF0236Large.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF0236Large.jpg)
Videos
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HeJ25pRJCv8
HeJ25pRJCv8
^At first you will notice a real blue color, this is not how they are, only a slight hue of blue is actually seen. Once the car is on and running they go more clear pure white looking.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UtsguU-mHCU
UtsguU-mHCU

[Egon Spengler]

I bought some on ebay and they were 6000K low beam only and they didn't advertise as being low beam only... they are in now and I don't like them and I am going back to a regular bulb

[Loco1234]

i had the same problem...
LINK TO my HID install...
Had talked about same problem... pix there to...
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34979

The wiring (pins) at headlights need to be flipped....
Then you'll be ready to rock and roll...

FYI:
There are a few different bulbs type:
1) Single beam system (No highbeam function - it's so bright, you might not need it)
2) Dual beam system (Xenon for low beam and halogen for high)
3) Bi-Xenon system (Xenon for highs and lows. For highbeam, the bulb is mechanicaly tilted by an actuator)
4) True Bi-Xenon (Xenon for highs and lows. This system will come with 4 ballasts) - most expensive.

For brighter whiter lights, I would go with the 6000K color. The higher the color temperature the more blue the light will be and also the lower the lumens output of the light will be. Just to put things in persective, the average lumens for halogen lights is about 1200 and for xenon is about 3000 for 6000K bulbs and slightly lower for higher color temperature bulbs. You can definitely tell that the lights are much brighter than halogens and they don't run any hotter than halogens. They draw less power than halogens 35w vs 65w so less heat is generated. It's kind of like fluorescent light theory (cool brighter lights with less power draw)
None of these retro-fit systems are DOT approved. I'm not concerned with that. I just want to be able to see better on back roads. When I go to the inspection station every 2 years, I'll just temporary put my stock halogen bulbs back on and bypass the ballasts. They'll never know the difference.

[Drewstang]

i had the same problem...
LINK TO my HID install...
Had talked about same problem... pix there to...
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34979

The wiring (pins) at headlights need to be flipped....
Then you'll be ready to rock and roll...

FYI:
There are a few different bulbs type:
1) Single beam system (No highbeam function - it's so bright, you might not need it)
2) Dual beam system (Xenon for low beam and halogen for high)
3) Bi-Xenon system (Xenon for highs and lows. For highbeam, the bulb is mechanicaly tilted by an actuator)
4) True Bi-Xenon (Xenon for highs and lows. This system will come with 4 ballasts) - most expensive.

For brighter whiter lights, I would go with the 6000K color. The higher the color temperature the more blue the light will be and also the lower the lumens output of the light will be. Just to put things in persective, the average lumens for halogen lights is about 1200 and for xenon is about 3000 for 6000K bulbs and slightly lower for higher color temperature bulbs. You can definitely tell that the lights are much brighter than halogens and they don't run any hotter than halogens. They draw less power than halogens 35w vs 65w so less heat is generated. It's kind of like fluorescent light theory (cool brighter lights with less power draw)
None of these retro-fit systems are DOT approved. I'm not concerned with that. I just want to be able to see better on back roads. When I go to the inspection station every 2 years, I'll just temporary put my stock halogen bulbs back on and bypass the ballasts. They'll never know the difference.
I tried flipping the pins in the stock plug, tested it, and on the input plug, tested it. This changed nothing.

[Loco1234]

I tried flipping the pins in the stock plug, tested it, and on the input plug, tested it. This changed nothing.

FROM PREVIOUS POSTING:
private msg I got from a member... this infrormation disccussed can and will be helpful....

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I viewed your photos with great interest since I to am doing a HID install.
Got the fogs done with minimal problem but the 9007 Hi/Lo kit has thrown me a curve.
I have noticed that on your install you had to change the location of some of the pins in the headlight plug.
What was the purpose of this change?
The reason that I ask is because my install is now comeplete but I find that my Hi beams are on when the Lo beams should be on and vise versa.
Will changing the location of the pins in the headlight plug cure this prblem?
thanks in advance for your answer.
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I had same issuse... lol
ya we chsnged the pins at the plug connector to correct this issuse... now are tests showed it works fine.... I would change the pins in the plug going to the light though and leave the actul hesdlig ht housing aslone except for when u need to feed wires out of it like we did....
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So i'm guessing that the green and blue wires need to be reversed, is that correct?
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you are correct...
leave black wire alone....
switch 1 & 3 the blue and green wires...

[Loco1234]

I tried flipping the pins in the stock plug, tested it, and on the input plug, tested it. This changed nothing.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/HID%20install/PIC-00468.jpg

[Drewstang]

I was reading that post in your thread while working on the car. We did exactly as you did with the factory plug and it did not change. The high beams still came on in the low beam position. We then put it back to stock and switched the pins on the input plug on the main HID harness. This again changed nothing, the high beams were still on when the switch was in the low beam position.

[TX Harley Guy]

I did my HD, same bulbs as the MM, with an Eagle Eyes kit, its hi and lo and was plug and play but there was a jumper harness and a diode setup included that let you fix that problem if you had it, something about the way systems are grounded.
I did 6k in the heads and 8k in the fogs, do yourself a favor and stay at 6k or below, my fogs are blue and I cant see the road worth a flip, I can see a reflective sticker or sign from 5 miles away tho!

Eagle Eye kit $300
Siemens kit $90 (fogs)

[SILVERSURFER03]

i got mine from ebay there 10s or 12s low only ..had ctrl raven assist me in installing ...i'll tell you there bright and i won't go back to reg. again. my kit was plug and play sweeeeeeet.. going to do fogs next at 6k or 8k not sure yet........... once you fix the problem ( sounds like a ground problem ) your going to love it trust me.....

[ctrlraven]

Yep same here, I hate driving vehicles with halogen bulbs now, feel like I can't see anything. Brian I would do the 6000k fogs or maybe even 4300k as they will emit more actual light than your headlamps.

[Raudermaster]

Hate to be the bearer of bad news though, the fog's on the MM are worthless. I can barely see 6 feet in front of me with just my fog's and I have HID's in them already. And they are pointed at the ground. They're more for "show."

[hidperf]

Bringing an old thread to life. I'm having the same problem with my 9007 bi-xenon kit. I've switched all the connectors around and still have no luck getting the highs and lows where they need to be. They're always reversed. The supplier is useless. He knows nothing about his own products.

On a good note though, after some heavy modification to the H1's the fogs are working perfect.

[Taemian]

Bringing an old thread to life. I'm having the same problem with my 9007 bi-xenon kit. I've switched all the connectors around and still have no luck getting the highs and lows where they need to be. They're always reversed. The supplier is useless. He knows nothing about his own products.

On a good note though, after some heavy modification to the H1's the fogs are working perfect.

Heavy mods? Hmmm. I have an HID low beam only kit with 6000k's. I want to got true bi-xenon for the headlights, and was just going to throw the single kit into the foglights. What kind of serious mods are necessary? I have already removed the H1 shield in the fogs, but I'm hearing rumours that the HID bulbs don't fit properly??

[hidperf]

Heavy mods? Hmmm. I have an HID low beam only kit with 6000k's. I want to got true bi-xenon for the headlights, and was just going to throw the single kit into the foglights. What kind of serious mods are necessary? I have already removed the H1 shield in the fogs, but I'm hearing rumours that the HID bulbs don't fit properly??

If you have a dremel tool and some silicone, then it's not that big of a deal. Just a PITA. The adapter that the H1 fits into needs to be converted to just a retaining ring to hold the HID H1 bulb in place. One you so that, just RTV the back up so it keeps out moisture and wire away.
I don't know how well your single 9007s will fit though. That's a whole different ball of wax.