Get me a sledge hammer...

[Johns_goat]

I'm about the **** this POS up....


I have only had it for two months so far I have replaced....

The LCM
Two COPS
One of them which didnt throw a code so I had to bring to the stealer

and now the wiper motor needs replacing
not to mention the HVAC Blower only works on high and low.

I have never had a car with this many ****ing problems in two months of ownership. The only thing I ever had to fix on my vic was the alternator. Ford CPO is the biggest joke going.

Is this usual for one of these cars with only 25k?

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Nope, but can't win em all I guess.

[TiTo35]

I'm about the **** this POS up....


I have only had it for two months so far I have replaced....

The LCM
Two COPS
One of them which didnt throw a code so I had to bring to the stealer

and now the wiper motor needs replacing
not to mention the HVAC Blower only works on high and low.

I have never had a car with this many ****ing problems in two months of ownership. The only thing I ever had to fix on my vic was the alternator. Ford CPO is the biggest joke going.

Is this usual for one of these cars with only 25k?


Where did you get your car from?

[Johns_goat]

Dana Lincoln Mercury

[TiTo35]

Dana Lincoln Mercury


25k...AND from a dealer...Did you do a carfax?
That sounds unusual...But I can only assume you got a warranty...?

[Raudermaster]

http://www.z06-corvette.com/super/corvette-sledgehammer-16.jpg

[TiTo35]

:confused: Where'd that come from?:confused:

[Johns_goat]

25k...AND from a dealer...Did you do a carfax?
That sounds unusual...But I can only assume you got a warranty...?


I carfaxed and even had an oasis....

Just the standard CPO Warranty which is utterly useless.

[J D]

Not to say I told you so or anything, but I have driven that car, and yes it is indeed a POS like I started to say when you first bought the thing (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showpost.php?p=565017&postcount=2), but I never knew it was that bad, looks like I dodged the bullet and kept flying and luck had it that it hit you.

But from one guy who's driven your MM and drives another, you just got screwed (especially at that price[mercury certified my :censor:]) all Marauders are not bad, just that crappy one. If you can dump that one and try another, I can almost guarantee that it will be much MUCH better. Don't judge the flock by its black sheep!

P.S. Not only is it a shame for John, but I feel bad for that s.b. Its got some baggage only an experienced mechanic can work through :shake:

[Blackened300a]

1988 Chevrolet Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette
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[Raudermaster]

Thanks Paul.

[Blackened300a]

Thanks Paul.

I knew exactly what you were getting at with the pic :cool:

[J D]

I knew exactly what you were getting at with the pic :cool:

:hijack: Off topic people, we have a member in need here. :rolleyes:

And hey! What wasn't there a rule on quoting massive pics . . .

[Johns_goat]

Not to say I told you so or anything, but I have driven that car, and yes it is indeed a POS like I started to say when you first bought the thing (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showpost.php?p=565017&postcount=2), but I never knew it was that bad, looks like I dodged the bullet and kept flying and luck had it that it hit you.

But from one guy who's driven your MM and drives another, you just got screwed (especially at that price[mercury certified my :censor:]) all Marauders are not bad, just that crappy one. If you can dump that one and try another, I can almost guarantee that it will be much MUCH better. Don't judge the flock by its black sheep!

P.S. Not only is it a shame for John, but I feel bad for that s.b. Its got some baggage only an experienced mechanic can work through :shake:Yeah it was too late then... I'm stuck with the pos now and honestly I don't ever want to try another ford, lincoln, mercury anything.

[DOOM]

Sounds VERY unusual to me. My marauder has 24,000 miles on it and runs PERFECT. Whoever had that car before you must have dogged the hell out of it. I hope you can take it back and get another one from somewhere else.

[offroadkarter]

Yeah it was too late then... I'm stuck with the pos now and honestly I don't ever want to try another ford, lincoln, mercury anything.


Fix through the problems and enjoy it afterwards. I know how it feels to buy something you really want and have continuous problems with it, but after you get em fixed you learn to love it.

[Johns_goat]

I swear every time i fix something and start to love the car again something else breaks. Its like Christine.

[offroadkarter]

I swear every time i fix something and start to love the car again something else breaks. Its like Christine.


No no, if it were christine it'd fix itself and brutally slaughter your enemies ;)

[Raudermaster]

Come on man, don't let a car that had a bad history burst your bubble. It sucks you got stuck with someone's problem, probably why it ended up at the dealer in the first place. Do you have an extended warranty on it?

[Johns_goat]

no nothing just the ford power train.... wish i had thought to get one

[imorb1994]

Fix through the problems and enjoy it afterwards. I know how it feels to buy something you really want and have continuous problems with it, but after you get em fixed you learn to love it.
i hope i get these feelings back after problems are fixed on mine. have owned the car a for 28 day and has sat for 15 with transmission and suspension problems

[Blackened300a]

Can you file for a lemon law with the car? They were to sell you a safe reliable car for the money you paid.

[J D]

No no, if it were Christine it'd fix itself and brutally slaughter your enemies ;)
+2 I love that movie and just finished listening to the sound track, but yeah, getting back on topic;

If you do have a lemon case on the car, I'd be happy to provide testimony on the condition of the car when I test drove it.

[Windsor58]

Any chance it was flood damaged (and not reported)?

[Aren Jay]

Fix through the problems and enjoy it afterwards. I know how it feels to buy something you really want and have continuous problems with it, but after you get em fixed you learn to love it.


Fix it.

I had a Lemon Mustang like that. I did finally sell it 17 years later but I still think of it as the best car I ever owned. Until I got my Marauder.

I had everything go wrong with that car. Everything, and yet after the first miserable year, except for the time someone put summer weight grease on the transmission cable and it froze in Drive. Everything afterwards except when the faulty ignition caught fire, common older mustang problem, worked like a dream. I eventually got so good at driving it I could hold it right at the edge of traction and just flew down the roads around Oxford, ring roads with round abouts are amazing at 70 MPH, never had to touch the brakes.

Work through the problems, fix them not to OEM level but to better. You will have the best Marauder out there in no time, throughly know your car and enjoy it.

Never ever give up.

PS I get the Corvette reference.

[Bluerauder]

Is this usual for one of these cars with only 25k?
The wiper motor issue is pretty common to the Panther platform and there is a TSB out on the problem for "Uncommanded Wiper Operation".

Some folks have mentioned problems with the HVAC before but not always the blower speed. Mine seemed like it just wasn't putting out cold air like it should ... had it in for repair on three different occasions to check pressures. It's been OK now for the past 2 summers.

Have heard few if any problems here over the years with LCMs and COPS. Just curious but does your MM have some aftermarket electrical mods?

[Bigdogjim]

I'm about the **** this POS up....


I have only had it for two months so far I have replaced....

The LCM
Two COPS
One of them which didnt throw a code so I had to bring to the stealer

and now the wiper motor needs replacing
not to mention the HVAC Blower only works on high and low.

I have never had a car with this many ****ing problems in two months of ownership. The only thing I ever had to fix on my vic was the alternator. Ford CPO is the biggest joke going.

Is this usual for one of these cars with only 25k?

Your State's Attorney General Office is a good place to start, ask the Dealer to step up to the plate and repair the car first, write down dates times and who you spoke with keep your cool! Then check with the State. I did this once when I lived in Pa. and it worked very well. Most States have laws to protect the buyer.

Keep up posted and good luck.

PS: MarauderMark can run a carfax start there as see if the MM has a history.

Ask RoyLPita to run the vin # also.

Both are long time members here and GREAT guys. :up:

[Bradley G]

I've had the LCM and the wiper motor replaced under warranty along with at least ten other warranty visits @60K
By far the best car I've ever driven :o

[Johns_goat]

The wiper motor issue is pretty common to the Panther platform and there is a TSB out on the problem for "Uncommanded Wiper Operation".

Some folks have mentioned problems with the HVAC before but not always the blower speed. Mine seemed like it just wasn't putting out cold air like it should ... had it in for repair on three different occasions to check pressures. It's been OK now for the past 2 summers.

Have heard few if any problems here over the years with LCMs and COPS. Just curious but does your MM have some aftermarket electrical mods?No none after market mods. The car even has stock stereo and such.

[Johns_goat]

Your State's Attorney General Office is a good place to start, ask the Dealer to step up to the plate and repair the car first, write down dates times and who you spoke with keep your cool! Then check with the State. I did this once when I lived in Pa. and it worked very well. Most States have laws to protect the buyer.

Keep up posted and good luck.

PS: MarauderMark can run a carfax start there as see if the MM has a history.

Ask RoyLPita to run the vin # also.

Both are long time members here and GREAT guys. :up:I had carfax and Oasis run prior to purchasing the car. I didn't buy it completely blind..

[Johns_goat]

Can you file for a lemon law with the car? They were to sell you a safe reliable car for the money you paid.The lemon law doesnt really cover much...
http://autopedia.com/html/LemonLaw/NewYork_NY_lemonlaw3.html

[Bigdogjim]

I had carfax and Oasis run prior to purchasing the car. I didn't buy it completely blind..

Well if so and nothing showed up and the car falls apart after you drive it home then something is wrong with this picture?

[Ms. Denmark]

Had a Crown Vic before I bought the Marauder. It was in the shop almost monthly for a never ending variety of problems. Eventually everything got sorted out and I doubt the next owner has had any problems with it. We looked into the lemon law at one point, but since the car had several different repair issues rather than one re currant one, we were told we didn't have a case. Bought the Marauder in '03 and other than oil changes, it hasn't been in the shop at all. It has been absolutely reliable as my daily driver. Don't give up on these cars. And good luck!

[rescuerandy2]

Good Morning,

I had an '03 Crown Vic LX Sport and had many issues too. Bought it as 25K (off warranty) and it already was on second set of tires. My replacements were: radio, LCM, all 4 rotors and pad sets, the driver's seat squeaked and many major bolts on the car were loose!! How about all 4 upper A-arm bolt nuts going loose at the same time!!! Oh, lets not forget the paint job was already shot at 32K. Enough said--it was a lemon. As I look for an '03 MM, I hope I do not run into similar issues.

Sorry for you mess,

Randy
Former Long Islander loving the sun in FL

[grampaws]

Thats not that bad..Oasis my freestar
and you'll feel better..
abs/trac cpu
reprogrammed several occassions
front wheel bearings
rear tail lights
heated mirrors
ignition coil
fog lights
three brake switches.
sliding door hinges.
13 visit's to the dealer and multiple
rental cars.
owned 12 months waiting for
next failure.
booked into shop monday.

[RocsMerc]

Written Warranty required; terms.
_____1. No dealer shall sell or lease a used motor vehicle to a consumer without giving the consumer a written warranty which shall at minimum apply for the following terms:
__________(a) If the used motor vehicle has thirty-six thousand miles or less, the warranty shall be at minimum ninety days or four thousand miles, whichever comes first.
This does describe your situation. You bought the car two months ago with 25,000 miles. So unless you drove the car 4,000 miles in the last two months, your covered for another month by this law. At the very least, they should be fixing your problems for free under this warranty. When I bought my car used with 39,000 miles, I brought the car back to the dealer with a bad power window motor (passenger door), bad power lock actuator(rear driver door), squealing belt, a variety of burnt out bulbs(interior and exterior), and a bad alternator one month later. They replaced it all for free. Try doing what I did. Make a list of EVERYTHING that's wrong with your car, and go back to the dealer that you bought it from.


5. If the same problem cannot be repaired after three or more attempts, you are entitled to return the car and receive a refund of your purchase price or of all payments made under your lease contract, and of sales tax and fees, minus a reasonable allowance for any damage not attributable to normal usage or wear, and, in the case of a lease contract, a cancellation of all further payments you are otherwise required to make under the lease contract.
6. If your car is out of service to repair a problem for a total of fifteen days or more during the warranty period you are entitled to return the car and receive a refund of your purchase price or of all payments made under your lease contract, and of sales tax and fees, minus a reasonable allowance for any damage not attributable to normal usage or wear, and, in the case of a lease contract, a cancellation of all further payments you are otherwise required to make under the lease contract.

[Spectragod]

So, how much to buy your POS?

SG

[Johns_goat]

Well if so and nothing showed up and the car falls apart after you drive it home then something is wrong with this picture?
Yeah I suppose however it seems most of my problems were typical problems like the lcm, wipers and cops. I just have had the misfortune of having it all go wrong within a really short period of time.

[Johns_goat]

So, how much to buy your POS?

SGThe loan pay of is 19. Heh thought about trading it off however I prob have tons of negative equity.

[MarauderMark]

Heh you got problems?:rofl: Spend what i spent:bigcry:

[Haggis]

Heh you got problems?:rofl: Spend what i spent:bigcry:

Forget the slegehammer Mark, I have some C4 for you. :D

[MarauderMark]

Forget the slegehammer Mark, I have some C4 for you. :D

Don't tempt me..:)

[Haggis]

Don't tempt me..:)

How about some 45-70 holes through the frame. ;)

[Egon Spengler]

IT'S A SLEDGEHAMMER.... Take it off any sweet jumps?
http://www.funtalking.com/images/wallpaper_pedro.jpg

[Egon Spengler]

I've said it before and I'll say it again... I have had this car less than a year and it is more high maintenance than a woman!!!

[Ms. Denmark]

I've said it before and I'll say it again... I have had this car less than a year and it is more high maintenance than a woman!!!
If you can't stand the heat.......buy a Toyota. And just as with cars, high maintenance women might be more fun!:coolman:

[Egon Spengler]

I still own it don't I? I got an offer from a guy to buy it off me and I turned it down!!!.... SO THERE!!!:neener:

[Ms. Denmark]

I still own it don't I? I got an offer from a guy to buy it off me and I turned it down!!!.... SO THERE!!!:neener:
Good Boy!:cheer::cheer:

[Blackened300a]

And just as with cars, high maintenance women might be more fun!:coolman:

Been there, done that and they aren't fun. Ill take my high maintenance car over a high maintenance woman anyday. Especially because I know when my car is left alone, nobody else is trying to drive her.

[Egon Spengler]

Been there, done that and they aren't fun. Ill take my high maintenance car over a high maintenance woman anyday. Especially because I know when my car is left alone, nobody else is trying to drive her.

http://www.rangerpowersports.com/forum/images/smilies/secret.gifI SECOND THAT!!!!

[DrZ]

This is the perfect example of a car with great design but poor mechanics fixing it. I bought this car Sept. 2014 for a great price. I put 2g or more in parts and plenty of my time. I gave it to my son for getting back and forth to college in WV. I drove it 1200 miles this Saturday night from Brooklyn, NY to Castine, ME and back to NY with no problems. The car runs well and this post shows old Marauders can be worth the effort. Don't sell it short-fix it! Thanks to all the people on MERCURYMARAUDER.NET for your help and insight, you made it easy and fun. :D

[BLACKMARAUDER04]

I have had many items fixed on the Marauder.
Yes, This car had many factory flaws built in to it.
03- Rear Axles
03 -Paint
LCM
Radio tuning going out
Oil Filter Gasket
Rear Tires running flat in middle
BCM (Blower control Module)
Blend Door Actuator

Any more standard fixes?

others: Rear Differential ( because rear control arms bushings failed and
caused the differential to move.
Alternator
Rear Air Bags
Upper Control Arm Bushings
Upper Control Arms
Center console cover breaking - replacing- recovering

My car has 195,000 miles. It is parked outside in a very dusty area
of the San Fernando Valley. Yes it has scratches, and dings.
However, I would not trade it ever.

I would like a new low mileage Marauder though to supplement my
current and my MKS w/ Ecoboost.

[DrZ]

List of items changed 9/2015 to date. Motorcraft spark plugs , Motorcraft Coil on plugs, OEM Marauder only air filter, rear axle seals only, front and rear Ford rotors and super duty Ford brake pads, electronic mixing valve, tires, OEM rims, emergency brake pads, steering wheel switch, LCM, wiper motor, Mobil 1 oil and Mobil 1 oil filter, rear axle Mobil 1 rolt for ear end oil, bolt to hold in pin for rear axle, front OEM windshield, center console inside, motorcraft fuel filter, transmission service, rear height air suspension sensor, rear shocks, front control arm lower mounts only, passenger side catalytic converter, muffler clamps, headlight bulbs, fog light completely new with new mounts, OEM mats no marauder logo but have original, plastic door mounts for window and door lock switches, dash light bulbs and many light bulbs. Still need to replace timing chain tensioner, some paint problems and door dent, small area of pitting on roof. Valentine 1 radar make 500 miles a dream and the sunroof option is also excellent.

[JustRight]

This is the perfect example of a car with great design but poor mechanics fixing it. I bought this car Sept. 2014 for a great price. I put 2g or more in parts and plenty of my time. I gave it to my son for getting back and forth to college in WV. I drove it 1200 miles this Saturday night from Brooklyn, NY to Castine, ME and back to NY with no problems. The car runs well and this post shows old Marauders can be worth the effort. Don't sell it short-fix it! Thanks to all the people on MERCURYMARAUDER.NET for your help and insight, you made it easy and fun. :D


Nailed it^^^^^