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2ndMDRebel
03-02-2008, 01:02 PM
Yep, she broke all right on the first run of the season. Car launched strong and was pulling harder than I ever felt it go then somewhere just past the 1/8th mile it dogged a little then the engine quit running, no noise, nothing abrupt, she just died. Engine is locked up tight. Called our tow company and got her tucked away at the dealership and will hopefully be tearing it down later this week to see what can be salvaged and what parts are in the oil pan.

Last run, 11.75 at 111mph...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8K270k1nZA

Sorry to the crew for hi-tailing it out of there.
merc
03-02-2008, 03:24 PM
Yep, she broke all right on the first run of the season. Car launched strong and was pulling harder than I ever felt it go then somewhere just past the 1/8th mile it dogged a little then the engine quit running, no noise, nothing abrupt, she just died. Engine is locked up tight. Called our tow company and got her tucked away at the dealership and will hopefully be tearing it down later this week to see what can be salvaged and what parts are in the oil pan.

Last run, 11.75 at 111mph...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8K270k1nZA

Sorry to the crew for hi-tailing it out of there.

I got a stock motor for sale. P.M. me for price and phone number
jdenning002
03-02-2008, 03:26 PM
Sorry to hear that.... I'm sure you will build her back even better!!
jgc61sr2002
03-02-2008, 03:32 PM
That's a bummer. :( Sorry.
Bluerauder
03-02-2008, 04:24 PM
Yep, she broke all right on the first run of the season. Last run, 11.75 at 111mph....
Nice run, Tom. :up: Sorry to hear about the engine on the CrownRauder. :( I watched the video several times but couldn't hear the engine quit with the sound of the fart pipe on the Nissan behind you.
Zack
03-02-2008, 04:52 PM
I have a forged shortblock ready to go.
Black_Noise
03-02-2008, 05:04 PM
time to go forged!!
2,4shofast
03-02-2008, 06:34 PM
Bad break, sounds like it is time to upgrade.
DOOM
03-02-2008, 08:08 PM
That was one hell of a run.
Joe Walsh
03-02-2008, 08:12 PM
Tom, Sorry to hear about the engine failure...

You could not tell from the video, and certainly not from the ET....
An 11.75 on an expired engine is still pretty sick!

Hope you get it all sorted out.
If there is anything I can do to help, let me know.
Raudermaster
03-03-2008, 05:47 PM
Damn that sucks, hope to see it come back bigger and badder!
2ndMDRebel
03-04-2008, 09:20 AM
Thanks for all the well-wishes and PMs on the car. We'll be getting the car in the shop later this week and start getting the engine tore down to try and determine the cause and extent of the failure. We're hoping the damage is all in the bottom end, the big question is if the heads are damaged too. Its just a matter of taking it one step at a time and planning each step's options. My goal is stronger, faster, safer.

On a side note it could have been much worse because at the 1/8th I'm usually around 93mph or so and if oil got under the wheels it may have gone a bit squirrelly.
Zack
03-04-2008, 09:32 AM
The heads almost always come out ok, especially if it was just an oil pump failure, causing the motor to seize.

Consider a Melling Oil Pump for the rebuild, I like the pressure they produce, compared to the MMR pump.
sailsmen
03-04-2008, 09:38 AM
Isn't an oil pump failure usually caused by pre-ign reverbarating thru the crank into the oil pump turing the powdered metal back into powder?
merc
03-04-2008, 09:47 AM
Thanks for all the well-wishes and PMs on the car. We'll be getting the car in the shop later this week and start getting the engine tore down to try and determine the cause and extent of the failure. We're hoping the damage is all in the bottom end, the big question is if the heads are damaged too. Its just a matter of taking it one step at a time and planning each step's options. My goal is stronger, faster, safer.

On a side note it could have been much worse because at the 1/8th I'm usually around 93mph or so and if oil got under the wheels it may have gone a bit squirrelly.

We got what parts you are looking for in Northern VA. Hopefully it's not the heads.
SILVERSURFER03
03-04-2008, 12:03 PM
sorry to about the car (engine) but if it's any consolation the run was sweeeeeet and the leave was impresive like a slug from a 45. awsome and you did look good smoking that maxima as i said sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet
TiTo35
03-04-2008, 03:14 PM
AHAHAHAHAHHA@ that Maxima...


:( for the car...I thought you were selling that car...maybe have u confused with another member...
jdenning002
04-11-2008, 06:40 PM
How's the new setup comming?
2ndMDRebel
04-12-2008, 10:30 AM
How's the new setup comming?

Just ordered the new Trilogy twin-screw supercharger but thats about it so far, can't seem to make up my mind on anything else as far as the engine goes, just too many options out there.
jdenning002
04-12-2008, 11:00 AM
what does the twin screw run($$)??

How long to get it?
2ndMDRebel
04-12-2008, 11:50 AM
Jerry announced the new s/c price at $6,995 and it should ship in about 5-6 weeks.
Zack
04-12-2008, 12:02 PM
Was your car A/A or A/W?
sailsmen
04-12-2008, 04:20 PM
Congrats on the twin screw!

The twin screw will go well w/ a built short block.

Are you selling your Vortec? How many miles on the Vortec?

I think Vortec charges $1,200 for a rebuild/upgrade.
2ndMDRebel
04-12-2008, 06:20 PM
The Vortech is air-water intercooled and has 21k miles on it. Work is picking up so when time permits I'll be pulling the vortech setup off the car as well as the methanol kit.
merc6
04-14-2008, 02:40 AM
Thanks for all the well-wishes and PMs on the car. We'll be getting the car in the shop later this week and start getting the engine tore down to try and determine the cause and extent of the failure. We're hoping the damage is all in the bottom end, the big question is if the heads are damaged too. Its just a matter of taking it one step at a time and planning each step's options. My goal is stronger, faster, safer.

On a side note it could have been much worse because at the 1/8th I'm usually around 93mph or so and if oil got under the wheels it may have gone a bit squirrelly.
Actualy later that day a fox body lifted the front and came down on the jersey barriors. hope you have a quick recovery and more fun getting kicked out!
sailsmen
05-04-2008, 05:43 AM
Have u figured out what went wrong?
Bluerauder
05-04-2008, 06:31 AM
Have u figured out what went wrong?
Concensus of opinion points to oil pump failure. See here >>>> http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=42732
sailsmen
05-04-2008, 07:07 AM
Oil pump failure due to detonation. What casued the detonation?

Fuel pump failure, IC pump failure, bad race gas....................?
Glenn
05-04-2008, 12:49 PM
I have followed these engine failures closely and many seem to have meth injection particularly the higher HP engines. I wonder if there may be a connection?? I almost went the Meth route myself, but deceided against it at the last moment before I went to Lidio's last year.

I run the race tune for 40+ HP, but use 100% 101 octane for 50 miles before I get to the track to insure it is all good gas in the lines. I will admit the car really launches noticeably stronger off the line with the race tune. I will be going to FFW June 13-14 hopefully some other MMs can also attend.

Glenn :burnout:
2ndMDRebel
05-07-2008, 06:47 AM
Oil pump failure due to detonation. What casued the detonation?

Fuel pump failure, IC pump failure, bad race gas....................?

There are just too many things that could have caused detonation I don't know where to start. I just replaced the tensioner and belt so there was zero slippage, the air temp was low 40 so it was nice and dense pushing full boost, the race fuel used may very well have been sitting in the station's tank all winter and been leftover stuff from last year, I haven't tested the fuel pump but the IC and methanol pumps were good. There was no smoking gun.

I'm now concentrating on the rebuild project which is coming along nicely and believe me, all the potential weak links will be inspected. If all goes well the car should be back on the road later this summer and after a little break-in and familiarization time it will be back on the track in the fall.
ctrlraven
05-07-2008, 06:53 AM
CrownRauder will become KingRauder cause it will own all, at least at Crapitol lol.

Good to hear things are coming along, hope you meet your goal to be back on the road by late summer.
dreydin
05-07-2008, 07:49 AM
/tag bc of work firewall
sailsmen
05-07-2008, 10:22 PM
Good, I am looking forward to the progress reports.

I remember reading an article by MFF about a Lightning called the white refrig. They blew an engine at the track near the start. They assumed they just pushed the engine two hard. Rebuilt it stronger and brought it to a well known tuner for tuning.

The tuner on the dyno shut it down, it went lean due to a bad fuel pump relay.

Point being they put back in a stronger engine and had they not been careful a relay would have blown the stronger engine.