Gates Serpentine Belt, is K060923HD ok?

[ts-pa]

Would the K060923HD be ok to use?

On this (http://www.car-stuff.com/carparts/mercurymarauder20032004daycody 50609231.html) website it shows a Dayco #DY5060923 which we know is made by Gates, equivalent being #K5060923.

Now, when I searched the Gates website (http://www.gates.com/part_locator/index.cfm?location_id=3002), it shows #K506926.

The difference that I can gather is the length is different by 0.200". I don't think that this will be an issue, is it?

If both belts can be used, I'd like to try the Gates Fleetrunner which is #K060923HD. These are supposed to last 3x as long as the ordinary belts.

What's your opinion or experience?

NEW INFO:
Gates Serpentine Belt K060923HD too small, K060935RB fits! (See page three for pic)

[ts-pa]

Forgot to mention, I have a N/A DOHC.

[magindat]

Gates is always good. Dayco isn't the same. The dayco is not 'micro-v'. I have held both side by side. Should be OK if not spinning a SC pulley.

I'd like to try the fleet runner, too. Let us know the cost difference and where to get.

BTW, the NAPA gates belt IS a micro-v.

I am currently using a kelly-springfield belt sold as duralast at auto-zone. (all I could find locally :bigcry:)

1/5 of an inch shouldn't make much difference, esp with no SC pulley to slip.

The nearest Fleetrunner is .5 too long for my application. :dunno:

[ts-pa]

Thanks Rich, I didn't know that the Dayco was that different.

From what I've found, these are the Gates Fleetrunner equivalents...

AC Delco K060923HD
Carquest K060923HD
NAPA 25-060923HD

[magindat]

Thanks Rich, I didn't know that the Dayco was that different.

From what I've found, these are the Gates Fleetrunner equivalents...

AC Delco K060923HD
Carquest K060923HD
NAPA 25-060923HD

The ribs on the dayco are rounded.

The $64,000 question is:

ARE THEY GREEN?! :coolman:

[ts-pa]

My current belt is slipping so bad that all of the numbers are worn off. I should replace the tensioner while I'm at it.

Any good suggestions for a quality tensioner?

[magindat]

Procharger calls for a 1073 and the nearest fleet runner is 1080.

[ts-pa]

I'm heading to any open parts store this weekend to see. If it is not green, it is not the same?

[magindat]

My current belt is slipping so bad that all of the numbers are worn off. I should replace the tensioner while I'm at it.

Any good suggestions for a quality tensioner?

Um GATES!!!

38006 pulley

38189 Tensioner assembly

http://www.gates.com/part_locator/index.cfm?location_id=3598

[ts-pa]

Forgot to mention, I have a N/A DOHC.

No s/c and stock pulleys.

[magindat]

I'm heading to any open parts store this weekend to see. If it is not green, it is not the same?

:dunno: Looky:

http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=2690&location_id=1173

Me likey the green!!!
:rolleyes: Green stripe on car, green strip in engine bay... Get it? :cool:

:D

[magindat]

No s/c and stock pulleys.

I know. I'm just saying that difference is the ONLY reason I don't have one on the car RIGHT NOW!!!! :bigcry:

[ts-pa]

:dunno: Looky:

http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=2690&location_id=1173

Me likey the green!!!
:rolleyes: Green stripe on car, green strip in engine bay... Get it? :cool:

:D


I get it, you like the green color.

I was referring to the possibility that the green is only used on the fleetrunner and the equivalents are not the same due to lack of color? For me to get the real deal, I need to go to a commercial truck parts supplier. Can they be purchased online anywhere?

[ts-pa]

OK, Rockauto has K060923HD (http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?catalog=64&partnum=K060923HD&a=PR64-K060923HD) as $36

[magindat]

I get it, you like the green color.

I was referring to the possibility that the green is only used on the fleetrunner and the equivalents are not the same due to lack of color? For me to get the real deal, I need to go to a commercial truck parts supplier. Can they be purchased online anywhere?

Sorry. Never looked. I meant to ask Zack how much the tensioner would likely swing for that little bit of length, but have forgotten to.

I'd imagine all you'd need is the HD at the end of the number. Although, as we've seen with the Dayco equivalent, they aren't necessarily equivalent. Dunno what to tell ya.

I can't remember his name right now, but the guy with Paxton 1 and the stroker who used to have the 18" Budnick's - anyways, he mentioned gates industrial green belts in a post a while back (which I can't seem to find right now, either) and liked them.

[magindat]

Found it!
Wasn't the member I was thinking of, but anyways....

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40563&highlight=green+belt

Post 21

[ts-pa]

Thanks Rich for the link.

[ts-pa]

I see tensioner info here (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=42735).

[ts-pa]

...The nearest Fleetrunner is .5 too long for my application. :dunno:

Is it possible to change the idler pulley to a larger diameter to make up the difference?

[magindat]

Is it possible to change the idler pulley to a larger diameter to make up the difference?

I suppose I could with the right center diameter and offset. With the 1073, the tensioner is slam to the right. I have to literally shoe-horn the belt on. It's harder for me to experiment with length, cuz the blower has to come off to change belts!!! Big-'ol-PITA!!!

I would think that with almost 3" of swing, it would be OK, but tension is less the closer you get to the left.

I meant to ask Zack what he thought or if he'd seen a difference with .5-.7" differing length belt or maybe I could just call Dennis and ask him.

Either way, it'll be a few miles before I have to address it again (I hope).

[Marauderjack]

FWIW.....

I have the Dayco belt on my ProCharger and so far it is doing great.....no slipping and the tensioner ain't jumping all over the place like it did with the GatorBack!!:beer: My original Gates belt slipped a bunch and the tensioner showed signs of the belt stretching!!:cool:

It was a ROYAL PITA to get on though.....much thicker than the GatorBack!!:rolleyes:

[magindat]

FWIW.....

I have the Dayco belt on my ProCharger and so far it is doing great.....no slipping and the tensioner ain't jumping all over the place like it did with the GatorBack!!:beer: My original Gates belt slipped a bunch and the tensioner showed signs of the belt stretching!!:cool:

It was a ROYAL PITA to get on though.....much thicker than the GatorBack!!:rolleyes:

I shredded 2 gatorbacks with the procharger. Good info on the dayco. Easy to get at Advance, too. Thanx!

[ts-pa]

O.K., Napa reports that the belt that they sell is the exact same belt as the Gates Fleet Runner, Heavy Duty & green colored. It was almost twice the cost of the rockauto price.

[freakstatus]

This is awesome info.....thanks guys. I'm starting to hear belt squeal. If I change out the belt and tensioner, will that alleviate the squeal?

[ts-pa]

I don't know, but it is a good place to start. It might solve your issue depending if it is the tensioner squealing but it could be another accessory such as the alternator.

[ts-pa]

I suppose I could with the right center diameter and offset. With the 1073, the tensioner is slam to the right. I have to literally shoe-horn the belt on. It's harder for me to experiment with length, cuz the blower has to come off to change belts!!! Big-'ol-PITA!!!

I would think that with almost 3" of swing, it would be OK, but tension is less the closer you get to the left.

I meant to ask Zack what he thought or if he'd seen a difference with .5-.7" differing length belt or maybe I could just call Dennis and ask him.

Either way, it'll be a few miles before I have to address it again (I hope).

This would be interesting to find out since others might have the same setup as yours. I can see why you want a long lasting belt!

[ts-pa]

Rich rockauto has the K061080HD (http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?catalog=64&partnum=K061080HD) at $29

[ts-pa]

Rich, if you were to get a K081074HD and remove two ribs, would this be the correct width? The length is listed as 108", only 1/8" difference from what you are using now.

[magindat]

Rich, if you were to get a K081074HD and remove two ribs, would this be the correct width? The length is listed as 108", only 1/8" difference from what you are using now.

Theoretically, yes.

[ts-pa]

These (http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/chevy/0706dp_2005_chevy_2500hd_air_c ompressor/photo_08.html) guys have done it.

[magindat]

These (http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/chevy/0706dp_2005_chevy_2500hd_air_c ompressor/photo_08.html) guys have done it.

Nice Find!!!

[MMMAN]

Go with the Gates. Stay away from Goodyear, unless you like rubber bands.

[ts-pa]

Would the K060923HD be ok to use?

On this (http://www.car-stuff.com/carparts/mercurymarauder20032004daycody 50609231.html) website it shows a Dayco #DY5060923 which we know is made by Gates, equivalent being #K5060923.

Now, when I searched the Gates website (http://www.gates.com/part_locator/index.cfm?location_id=3002), it shows #K506926.

The difference that I can gather is the length is different by 0.200". I don't think that this will be an issue, is it?

If both belts can be used, I'd like to try the Gates Fleetrunner which is #K060923HD. These are supposed to last 3x as long as the ordinary belts.

What's your opinion or experience?


To answer my own question; NO! this is too small.:(

Anyone want to buy a Gates K060923HD at a discount?:o

[ts-pa]

A word of caution; rockauto.com lists the K060923 for the Marauder.

[ts-pa]

The belt that did not fit is no longer for sale, was able to return it to NAPA.

[ts-pa]

Woo Hoo! Just installed a Gates Racing Belt (http://pix.myphotoalbum.com/p/pa/pas/pasi/pasig/pasig/albums/album08/Gates_K060935RB.sized.jpg), looks good too! K060935RB

http://pix.myphotoalbum.com/p/pa/pas/pasi/pasig/pasig/albums/album08/Gates_K060935RB.sized.jpg

[cougar9150]

Sweet. I know what I'm replacing my crappy gator back with. Good find

[ts-pa]

Here (http://www.jegs.com/i/Gates/465/K060935RB/10002/-1) was the cheapest that I found for it.

[Local Boy]

That's a NICE belt...too bad they don't come in my size...

ALOHA

[ts-pa]

...The nearest Fleetrunner is .5 too long for my application. :dunno:

O.K. Rich, I was using a belt from an unknown to me source. It had the tensioner swung c.w. as far as it could go, about the 12 o'clock position. When I tried the K060923 it was just too short to fit on. I see that the K060926 is listed as the std. belt for the MM DOHC engine. Being slightly longer, this would have gone on.

I chose to go with the K060935RB since there is a lot of swing in the tensioner. The difference is just under 1" of belt length. The tensioner now sits about the 11 o'clock position, see pic above. With this in mind, the longer fleetrunner K0601080HD might work for you.

[Ambitious1]

So I am looking to replace my serpentine belt. Is the Gates K060935RB belt what most people are recommending as better than the Gatorback or other choices?

[Mr. Man]

I've been using Gates belts for years with no issues.