Larger sway bars

[ts-pa]

If you could have larger diameter sway bars than the current ones from Addco, what front & rear size bar would you like?

(Addco's Solid bars are: front at Ø1-1/4" & rear at Ø1")
(Addco's Tubular bars are: front at Ø1-3/8" & rear at Ø1-1/8")

[Blk Mamba]

Actually I'd Prefer torsion bars so it could be adjusted for different driving conditions. But I'd take inch, and a half, & inch, and a quarter, with shorter springs in the front, and interior adjustable air bags on the rear, while we're at it how about hydraulic jack screws on the four corners.

[ImpalaSlayer]

im not sure but i wish they were just a little thicker.

[hdwrenchtx]

addco makes 1 3/8 and 1 1/8. i just installed them on sunday

http://addco.net/Kia-Mitsubishi_AntiSwaybars.htm#Me rcury

[Blk Mamba]

Are the tubular better than the solid, I have been waiting to ask someone who has them, I thought they were just weight savers.

[hdwrenchtx]

Are the tubular better than the solid, I have been waiting to ask someone who has them, I thought they were just weight savers.

dont know can't compare from personal experience

[Raudermaster]

I've heard the solid ones are better.

[Taemian]

Price check on the tubular ones, anyone got a link for these?

[hdwrenchtx]

I've heard the solid ones are better.

who knows. solid came out first. there had to have been some advantage to the others or they wouldnt have made em

[Raudermaster]

Yea, they're lighter.

[ts-pa]

Tubular bars are lighter. I think that I'd prefer the solid bars myself.

Hey "Trash", hydraulic jack screws? I'd like to be reasonable with costs!

[hdwrenchtx]

i can definitely tell there is an improvement over stock.

why do you want even bigger than anyone even offers? what kind of driving do you do

[BK_GrandMarquis]

i can definitely tell there is an improvement over stock.

why do you want even bigger than anyone even offers? what kind of driving do you do


Hehe, harder than the typical daily driver. ;) :burnout:

[offroadkarter]

I've heard the solid ones are better.

ive heard otherwise ;)

[Raudermaster]

Oh shut the hell up Ryan. Why, will your Dad notice a difference?

[ts-pa]

i can definitely tell there is an improvement over stock.

why do you want even bigger than anyone even offers? what kind of driving do you do

I'm pretty aggresive and I notice how how the car sways. This is with the HPP setup. I've noticed some good lean even on cars that have what would be considered an great setup. So I'm looking to improve what we have, not just go with the norm.

[Krytin]

The tubular units are lighter. The larger diameter is to make them as "stiff" as the solids. So I don't think there is much difference in control with one or the other. The car will just be that much lighter!
I CAN say from personal experience that lowering the car will reduce sway considerably. You can test drive it yourself at Carlilse!

[ts-pa]

...I CAN say from personal experience that lowering the car will reduce sway considerably. You can test drive it yourself at Carlilse!

I would love to try out your car.:burnout::D j/k, no burnouts.

[Krytin]

I would love to try out your car.:burnout::D j/k, no burnouts.
Thank you for that!
I do have two sets of used rear tires for anyone who wants to enter any contests - they will just have to have them mounted!

[Blk Mamba]

Tubular bars are lighter. I think that I'd prefer the solid bars myself.

Hey "Trash", hydraulic jack screws? I'd like to be reasonable with costs!

When we built roundy round cars in the 60's we put some in a few cars, you wouldn't believe what you could when you knew the road. I don't drag race, I like to road race, then it's more driver than car. My uncle owned a Chrysler dealer in the 50's, 60's they would put a car up on the lift, tighten up the torsion bar, take off a front wheel, and drive down the road. Like in that Burt Reynolds movie.

[ts-pa]

In your opinion, how big is too big for the front & rear sway bar sizes?

[Blk Mamba]

That would depend on what you're going to do with the auto, some shouldn't have one at all, others, never big enough.

[burt ragio]

I just bought larger front and rear sway bars along with the Naake Q1s from Never Enough. I selected the solid sway bars there is a four lbs. difference. To me solid seems better. I don't drag race so a few lbs. isn't a big thing and if I did I wouldn't have any sway bars. I will post pics when I recieve the full order.

[ts-pa]

That would depend on what you're going to do with the auto, some shouldn't have one at all, others, never big enough.

Let's say we break it down by use:

Stock--Retiree type ride, don't bother doing anything

Drag racing--

Autocross--

Roadrace such as SCCA--

[John F. Russo]

I just bought larger front and rear sway bars along with the Naake Q1s from Never Enough. I selected the solid sway bars there is a four lbs. difference. To me solid seems better. I don't drag race so a few lbs. isn't a big thing and if I did I wouldn't have any sway bars. I will post pics when I recieve the full order.

I'm considering Naake QA1 struts/shocks? Did you buy them becasue of the size of your rear tries are you using

[burt ragio]

No John I didn't buy the Naake Q1s due to rear tire size. You may have misread my post I don't drag race. My tires are OEM size. I bought the Q1s because I have apx 55000 mi. on the originals and the car drives like a ship in a canal the shocks are played out to much work at driving above certain speed limits also to much air gets under the car. I didn't like the other that are avalable to use quality ride or performance. As you know many other marauder owners can't say enough about the Q1s. Raise it lower it dial n your ride.

[John F. Russo]

No John I didn't buy the Naake Q1s due to rear tire size. You may have misread my post I don't drag race. My tires are OEM size. I bought the Q1s because I have apx 55000 mi. on the originals and the car drives like a ship in a canal the shocks are played out to much work at driving above certain speed limits also to much air gets under the car. I didn't like the other that are avalable to use quality ride or performance. As you know many other marauder owners can't say enough about the Q1s. Raise it lower it dial n your ride.

Thank you.

[offroadkarter]

Oh shut the hell up Ryan. Why, will your Dad notice a difference?

No, but from what ive read tubular arms are as strong if not stronger than a solid bar. Something about the interior angles of the tube vs the solid, that gives the tube more strength.

[BigCars4Ever]

How about 2" winston cup style. Look under fron suspension
http://www.racecar2000.com/classifieds/view-ad-17977.html

[ts-pa]

How about 2" winston cup style. Look under fron suspension
http://www.racecar2000.com/classifieds/view-ad-17977.html


I have thought about duplicating this setup, not sure if Roush would like us selling parts that they had designed.

This is what inspired my desire to get larger than current bars. Seems to work well on that car.

Since Addco already knows what shape fits our cars, and have been our sole supplier of sway bars, I'd thought that they should have our support in this effort.

[Blk Mamba]

I'll bet thats a rough ride, I would try it, but grandma wouldn't like it.

[ts-pa]

Good thing grandma doesn't drive my car. ;)

The "Cobra Vics" as they were called, had 1000lbs/in springs as well as the larger sway bar. IIRC the stock panthers are 440, HPP are 550, & CVPI are 700. I'm not sure what the Marauders have, but I do recall that the Eibach 1000lb/in were pretty harsh. The point is that most panthers on the road do not have as high of a spring rate as the Cobra Vic. Our cars with larger sway bars would have lower total effective spring rate than that car.

[Kennyrauder]

Yup !!! Keep your car as stiff as a fridgidaire lady in bed. LOL You can stffen yourself to death. I have HD Addco's with stock rims & tires my Marauder handles awesomely. Remember we all know what the EDGE is but something has to give & that's the rubber..... that is unless you are running rubber none of us Marauder guys can afford. May the G Force be with you.

[Blk Mamba]

I had been thinking of doubling up sway bars,(piggy back) just to experiment, but that seems too stiff also, even with the stickiest tires, something is still going to give, and then its back to the roll over. Just want to find that one sweet spot.

[ts-pa]

I had been thinking of doubling up sway bars,(piggy back) just to experiment, but that seems too stiff also, even with the stickiest tires, something is still going to give, and then its back to the roll over. Just want to find that one sweet spot.


There are some who have done just that, the doubling of bars.

[Blk Mamba]

There are some who have done just that, the doubling of bars.


Do you know how well it works, is it progressive or all at once? I'd like to have time to check it out.

[ts-pa]

I don't if it works or not, but I did see pics. In my opinion, if I were to carry extra weight, it may as well be larger bar.