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Mest30
04-14-2008, 07:19 AM
After 8 hours and several headaches, the pullies and pump are finally in. The install itself was pretty straight forward, other than the water pump bolts being too long with the new pump and pulley. A couple washers fixed that problem, though. Once we were done, we put coolant in the over fill tank and started her up. Guess what? The car over heated. After checking blackened300a's write up on the install, he said he filled the overfill tank and the pipe leading to the radiator. So we did that and it still overheated. The we disconnected the tubes that lead directly to the radiator, filled them, squeezed out all the air pockets and mission success. Spilled a lot of anitfreeze during the process. I didnt get on it on the way home because I was still weary of the possibility of over heating, but even at light acceleration, I could def tell the difference. Two thumbs up for this mod, just follow blackened300a's write up to a T, it helped me out a lot.

Mest30
04-14-2008, 07:26 AM
I forgot to ask a question. My buddy has a crownvic and was wondering if my old waterpump and pullies would work on his car and if so, would it net him any gains? Also, I didnt install the alternator pulley. What are your thoughts on not installing that one?

RF Overlord
04-14-2008, 10:19 AM
It's not necessary to install the U/D alternator pulley on the Marauder as the PCM shuts off the alt. at WOT.

To be sure you've gotten all the air out of the cooling system, loosen (don't remove) the cap in the crossover pipe and let the car idle until it warms up. When it's stopped spitting and fizzing, tighten the cap and top off the reservoir as necessary.

Blackened300a
04-14-2008, 12:28 PM
After checking blackened300a's write up on the install, he said he filled the overfill tank and the pipe leading to the radiator. So we did that and it still overheated. The we disconnected the tubes that lead directly to the radiator, filled them, squeezed out all the air pockets and mission success. Spilled a lot of anitfreeze during the process. I didnt get on it on the way home because I was still weary of the possibility of over heating, but even at light acceleration, I could def tell the difference. Two thumbs up for this mod, just follow blackened300a's write up to a T, it helped me out a lot.

You have to backfill the engine through the corssover pipe then fill the tank. It is a PITA but Im glad it worked out. The lockwashers are a must with the steeda pullies.

Mest30
04-14-2008, 01:03 PM
If I would have read your thread before doing the install it would have been much easier. I think the air pockets and over heating issues are gone but if they come back, I'll just do what RF Overlord said and if that doesnt work I'll just bleed the system and start over the right way. I put a gatorback belt on, too, while I had everything off.

Blackened300a
04-14-2008, 01:08 PM
Make sure the engine is cold and then open the crossover pipe with the front of the car a little higher then the rear, Fill the tube to the very top and leave the plug slightly loose, now run the car to operating temperature and watch for air bubbles. If the coolant just flows out then you have successfully burped the system. After a few runs, crack the plug again to get any air out that may have settled at the top.

Mest30
04-15-2008, 05:35 AM
Will do, thanks for the tips.

DOOM
04-15-2008, 08:20 AM
This will be one of my next mods. Didnt know it was such a PITA to install.

Mest30
04-15-2008, 08:22 AM
It's not that hard to install. The install for both took less than 4 hours. I just didnt know I had to fill the crossover pipe with coolant and by the time I realized it, air pockets were already there. Blackened300a did a nice write up on the install. Follow his directions and you'll be done in no time. If I had read them first, it would have been cake.

red
04-15-2008, 09:20 PM
This will be one of my next mods. Didnt know it was such a PITA to install.
It's not. I had my old one out and new one installed in a little over an hour. Between setup, cool down, installation, and cleanup it probably took about 3 to 4 hours.