Won't Start, no Blown Fuses????

[zrwhat]

Ok about 6 months ago in one of the coldest and snowiest days of the year I go out to start the marauder to head to work. It kicked in the start for a split second and then nothing. Tried turning it over again and didn't do a thing. I jumped on here and found a thread to check for a blown fuse at #9 trans range sensor, sure enough it was blown. So I put a new fuse in and it started to turn over and then I heard a pop and sure enough it blew the new fuse. I ended up jumping the fuse with a solid core wire. I figured I would track the problem down at some point in time, but never got around to it. Car's been starting fine for the past 6 months until last Thursday, once again the marauder strands me (Never had a car that has stranded me like this car).

I leave it sit over night and head back to diagnose it in the morning. I find a blown fuse for the #18 which is for the fog lamps. I jump this fuse like I did the other one and it fires right up. Worked fine all weekend until about 10 min. ago. Jumped in the car to run in town for a pizza and again it started to turn over for a split second and then nothing.

This time I checked all my fuse and my jumpers and everything looks perfect. It is acting like it is a fuse, but everything looks normal.

Thanks for the help!

[BruteForce]

There is a reason circuits have fuses. I would start to look for fried parts on your "jumpered" circuits.

[zrwhat]

Ok now it get's wierd. I was getting ready to push my car out of the drive so the wife could get out in the morning and was planning on driving the Lightning tomorrow. I jumped in the car to throw it in nuetral and decided to give it one last try, guess what it started right up!

Is there something in the computer that resets itself after a set amount of time?

[larryo340]

I can't believe it's lasted this long with "jumped" fuses. Why don't you install the proper size fuse and see what happens. Then bring it to someone who can FIX it. :rolleyes:

[zrwhat]

That is the plan. It happened again this morning at work. I had the door open unloading the car into a buddies and I heard a small click. I jumped in and it fired right up, so it has to be something that is resetting itself automatically?

[zrwhat]

Sorry to bring back up an ancient post, but the problem with the Marauder is still unresolved. I'm going on two years with the problem and am ready to install a momentary starter button for emergency use when the key doesn't work.

I recently installed new Battery, Terminals & Starter trying to rule out the obvious. I still have intermittent issues with starting the car. Lately it will start to turn over and then its like you pulled the power and instantly stops the starter. If I hold the key forward in the start position for 5-10 sec. and then release and try to start again it will start or at least turn over. Not sure if it's the PATS or Ignition Switch? I've searched for chaffed wires but haven't found any issues.

I have been blowing fuse 116 under the hood which is for the Power Steering assist, Air Suspension, etc. Having just installed a new Air Suspension pump last year I unplugged the Power Steering Assist and the fuse does not blow. Don't think this has anything to do with the starting issue though?

And finally my service port is dead and has been for quite a few years, shortly after I loaded the tune with my XCal 1.

[RacerX]

You've go a short somewhere for sure. Maybe multiple issues since you've had blown fuses in multiple areas and a dead service port. I would take that in to a shop that's good with electrical probs. BTW, Fuse 116 is for Wipers...

[zrwhat]

Yep you are correct, didn't have my manual in front of me. I pulled the wiper fuse because I didn't have any spares.

[Blk Mamba]

I had a similar problem last year, took it to the LM dealer, and they found that the wiring harness behind the drivers side cam cover was pinched, and causing a short. This is a specific problem on MM's only, due to the larger cam cover. The tech moved the wiring harness, after the repair, all is good now. (BTW, the short took out a lot of things on the way, Pats, Radio interference resister, Cops, Etc, get it fixed quick, it will burn to the ground.)

[zrwhat]

After reading every thread I could find on here I did look at the harness last week. I didn't notice any pinched wires but then again it's so tight it's hard to tell. I will have to put it back up on the lift and see if I can get a better view from under the car. Does anyone have any pics of exactly where the harness is being pinched?

I am very close to burning the thing to the ground anyway! Very soon the only thing that is electronic still functioning will be my surefire that I keep in the center console.

[MercOut]

Same problem. When my motor was replaces the hiring harness was pinched, car wouldn't start. Took it to a ford delearship and they fixed it. problem solved. My pinch was where the motor and transmission collect

[zrwhat]

Still having issue's and almost ready to install a push button starter. I've searched for pinched wires and changed the batter, starter, rewired the battery cables, etc. I've noticed lately that if I turn the key to the ON position and wait a few seconds it starts most of the time. If I put the key in and try to start right away it usually doesn't start at all. Could this be a problem with the PATS module? Anybody have a PN for the PATS, may just replace it to rule it out. Thanks!

[NYGarageQueen]

What problems are you literally having? Just no crank? Is there anything else weird going on with the car at the same time it wont start?

I hope you fixed those fuses instead of using the jumper wire, by doing that you could of went from one small problem to a ***** load which is why other fuses are blowing.

I get no crank, but I think I am looking at more of a ground problem. I do hear the starter solenoid click over but nothing else. I am taking some of this information down to look at mine as well.

[zrwhat]

Correct, no crank. Sometimes it does turn over for a split second and then it's like you cut the power to the starter.

Fuses are still jumped, and the power steering assist is now unplugged because it kept blowing that fuse as well.

I do not hear any solenoid at all, I did replace the starter just because and it definitely isn't the problem.

[NYGarageQueen]

I would check everything, including all the grounds. Those ground wires tend to get iffy after a while, which again I am hoping is my problem. In fact before I pulled the 2v out I noticed the entire ground wire from the battery to the bellhousing/starter corroded. This was causing havoc on the car itself.

[carfixer]

You've spent hundreds of dollars replacing stuff that didn't fix your problem instead of spending a hundred bucks having it diagnosed?!?!?!

[zrwhat]

Agree if there was anyone in my area that I could trust. The issue is it is intermittent which means I could let the dealership or local shop spend forever trying to diagnose the issue.