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Brother Mike
08-19-2003, 08:04 PM
The following is a true story and it does not bode well for Ford Motor:

This is going to be a very long winded post and I will try to keep it polite so that Logan does not have to delete it but I understand if you do! :D Since I have not posted often on this board let me tell y'all that I have been driving L/M products all my life and that my family has probably purchsed over 40 NEW L/M vehicles (Grand Marquis/Town Car/Continentals) over the las 30 years. Not a single non-Ford product in all that time. I bleed Ford Blue. I even live and work in Dearborn and to us you work for Fords- not Ford. It is a family first and company second. My mother even worked at the "Glass House" for 15 years until my parents started a family. Wish we still had A plan!

This past Saturday I was co-hosting a party celebrating Dream Cruise. The other host, who shall remain annyonmous, happens to also work for Ford and lives quite close to Woodward Ave. Among the attendees of this fashionable soire was a FoMoCo employee named Bill.

Bill is an engineer in VO (Vehicle Operations) and works on the Focus. Bill even proudly admits to owning a Focus SVT. A Focus SVT is IMHO aimed at the "ricer" market but it is a Ford and not all bad. I hope that in another 12 plus years when I am 50 and having a middle aged crisis like Bill I do not find myself in a Focus but that is another story.

Being a gracious host I engeged Bill in conversation and we chatted for abit about the Focus and some of the quality & reliability problems that Ford had experienced. To say the initila lauch of the vehicle was less than stellar is akin to saying the Detroit Tigers are having a bad year!

I then told Bill that I owned a Marauder and solicited his opinion. His response was and I now quote, " The Marauder is a rebadged Grand Marquis with a few more horsepower. They are killing it off next year. It should never have been put it to production."

Because his wife and child were there Bill was spared an early retirement from life. Notwithstanding the fact that any person with knowledge of the Marauder can easily prove the significant differences between it and a GM is his comments to an owner of the vehicle were offensive and stupid.

Bill, do you realize that I am a CUSTOMER of Ford Motor? That my vehicle purchases over the years have paid your salary and funded your 401(k)? Your derogatory comments reflect upon your employer and felow co-workers! Pissing off a customer is never a good idea. My Marauder purchase adds a hell of alot more to an already shaky bottom line than a sale of a Focus SVT ever will. Maybe YOU do not personally care for the car Bill; but as an employee your comments represent and negatively impact the
company. For God's sake your livelihood is dependent upon people like the members of this forum. You owe Bill Ford and the hundreds of thousands of Ford employees more respect and loyalty than to bad mouth what happens to be a very fine vehicle in spite of your ignorant opinions.

If you worked for GM or Dodge I would not give your comments a second thought-partisan loyalty is something I understand and even respect. But you work and even prosper personally because of the success and sales of the Marauder. Does the term "MARKET SHARE" mean anything to you? Your company is in the business of SELLING CARS dumbass! Just so we are clear on one thing - pissing moi off is not going to help you sell more cars. Fewer sales means no raise or bonus. Am I getting through to you now?

Sorry Logan I just had to rant. My only consoloing thought is that for every jerk like this there is a guy like Steve Babcock. It is not just the fact that he put down me and the Marauder- it is how poorly his attitude reflects on what I have always believed was a great company.

Bill I will end my rant with this. In the spirit of the 60's we should settle this like men (not sure you qualify on that point)
:flamer: Bring that Focus SVT out to Woodward and I will bring my Marauder. May the best car win and I am certain we all know who that will be.

P.S. Even in my rearview mirror your wife is ugly!

Marauder57
08-19-2003, 08:09 PM
P.S. Even in my rearview mirror your wife is ugly!

Yeah but at least in your review she is getting smaller..... :D

RCSignals
08-19-2003, 08:53 PM
Bill is obviously very misinformed.

Logan
08-20-2003, 05:37 AM
Just because a guy works at Ford, doesn't mean they're not allowed to have opinions, however misinformed...

Having owned a SVT Focus myself for awhile, it's a cool car, handles incredibly well, but ulimately, ain't no marauder!! :)

Bigdogjim
08-20-2003, 06:01 AM
Brother Mike: I know what you mean. Still he is allowed to express an opion. We may no like/agree with it. As much as I want to at times you can't aruge with all of 'em.
Some days you gotta walk away.

Bigdogjim
08-20-2003, 06:03 AM
Brother Mike: I know what you mean. Still he is allowed to express an opion. We may not like/agree with it. As many times I have heard said things said about the car at Ford/L&M dealerships you need to take it with a grain of salt.

O's Fan Rich
08-20-2003, 06:04 AM
Let your fellow host know that Bill is welcome to his opinoions and that he can continue to drive his Focus.
I wonder how much he had to drink? Many times alcohol causes one to lose his sense of tact and graciousness, Which often leads to a sound ass whooping!!

Bill, if you visit here and read this, I feel sorry for you. You obviously have allowed inter-corporate competion cloud your judgement. I certainly hope your thoughts are not those of Ford/Lm as a whole, but I am starting to wonder.

That GTO sure looks good, huh?

Smokie
08-20-2003, 06:10 AM
Brother Mike, I was not surprised by what Bill said; here in Fl. I have run across a Bill or two at some L/M delerships. But I want to tell you how much I enjoyed your post and the respect that I have for you and your passion for your company and our Marauder, I am so glad that there are others out there who think like I do an I applaud your restraint as a gentleman for holding back and not kicking that fools ass. Keep writing Brother you do it well and with passion, My respects.
:bows: :beer: :bows:

Marauderman
08-20-2003, 10:50 AM
I Agree with what ^^^^^^^^Smokie^^^^^^^ says---!!

----Tom

vaderv
08-20-2003, 11:37 AM
Brother Mike I build the Focus at wayne assembly. First, thank you for buying a Ford. You have to remember that in any large family there are the relatives that noone can stand. ; )-

Merc-O-matic
08-20-2003, 01:12 PM
BROTHER MIKE....Please note there are plenty
of BILL'S out there. Remember the line from
HOT ROD Magazine: " the MARAUDER is a
message to those who know". Find solace
in knowing you are in that SELECT few!
Gotta Love It!

RF Overlord
08-20-2003, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by vaderv
remember that in any large family there are the relatives that noone can stand.

Is that why everyone has started calling me Uncle RF?

Dr Caleb
08-20-2003, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by RF Overlord
Is that why everyone has started calling me Uncle RF?

Nope. You're the crazy Uncle no one talks about.
:)

frdwrnch
08-20-2003, 01:51 PM
I agree w/vaderv. Consider the source. Oh, and as for the focus, lets line it up!

modular46
08-20-2003, 06:04 PM
Does his Focus have oversize decals on it?

rumble
08-20-2003, 07:31 PM
Brother Mike,
Like many of us you just don't suffer fools gladly. Sure, the guy is
entitled to his opinion, but he's still a moron for knocking his
bread and butter to a Marauder owner.

2003 MIB
08-20-2003, 07:53 PM
I think Bill's opinion is stupid and ill-informed. I also think he's got a right to say anything he wants. Elvis (C. not P.) said it best, "I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused."
I guess we all know we're all a little odd for loving these boats. I don't really care if anyone else "gets it" or not. I will tell you there's nothing better than meeting other folks with the same viewpoint about the Panther. Ennis will rock!!!