My Trilogy Car.....Raffled off?

[Zack]

100 tickets, $100 a piece.
That equals $10,000.
You would owe me $9000 if you win the raffle.

..or..
200 tickets at $100 a piece and you win the car outright.


Who's in?

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=43060


...still awaiting a response from paypal regarding refunds, should it be necessary if all tickets are not sold

Post up if you are interested

[KillJoy]

I would be in for 1 Ticket at $100 @ 200 Tickets Total!!!!

:up:

KillJoy

[Local Boy]

I'd be IN!

Put me down for one ticket...PLEASE...

ALOHA

[FordNut]

I would be in for 1 Ticket at $100 @ 200 Tickets Total!!!!

:up:

KillJoy

I'd go for that, too. Much better deal than a supercharger raffle!

[tigerbait]

+1 Here...count me in.

[sd8683]

I'm in for 2 or 3 tickets @100 a piece and 200 tickets sold. C'mon people this would be awesome!!

[Raudermaster]

Count me in for like 2 or 3 as well, on the 200 count one.

[Iowa Rick]

I'd go one ticket based on 200 tickets being sold too! Thanks

[serb82]

I have pondered the idea to have a raffle (for my motorcycle) but in the state of indiana in order to do a raffle you have to:


First, the organization must be non-profit [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(1)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/) and either have been in active, continuous existence in Indiana for at least 5 years or be affiliated with an Indiana parent organization which has been operating in Indiana at least 5 years [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(2)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). Also, the organization must be exempt from taxation under either an Indiana or Federal statute [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(3)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/).
Next, your group must be registered with the Indiana Department of Revenue as a Not-for-Profit organization [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(4)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). (If your group is registered with the Indiana Department of Revenue as a Not-for-Profit organization, the group will have been issued an Indiana Not-for-Profit Number.) Once you are registered with the Indiana Department of Revenue, your group must annually file an application with the State of Indiana [45 IAC 45-18-2-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). Depending on the market value of the prizes you will offer, you will either have to register with the Indiana Department of Revenue or file an application for the raffle event. [45 IAC 18-2-4(b)(4)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). Finally, after conducting a raffle you may have to file reports with the State of Indiana, [45 IAC 18-4-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/) along with State and Federal tax returns [45 IAC 18-5-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). This may seem like a lot of red tape just to hold a raffle, but if you hold a raffle without satisfying all of the legal requirements, you have committed a Class B misdemeanor (http://www.indiana.edu/~sls/crim.html#MISDEMEANOR) [45 IAC 18-6-2] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/), and could face fines (http://www.indiana.edu/~sls/crim.html#m) and other civil penalties [45 IAC 18-6-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/).

If you still wanna do it, I am in on a few tickets!!!!

[n00bkiller944]

Id be in for one ticket in the 200 ticket one most likely

[sd8683]

I have pondered the idea to have a raffle (for my motorcycle) but in the state of indiana in order to do a raffle you have to:


First, the organization must be non-profit [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(1)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/) and either have been in active, continuous existence in Indiana for at least 5 years or be affiliated with an Indiana parent organization which has been operating in Indiana at least 5 years [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(2)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). Also, the organization must be exempt from taxation under either an Indiana or Federal statute [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(3)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/).
Next, your group must be registered with the Indiana Department of Revenue as a Not-for-Profit organization [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(4)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). (If your group is registered with the Indiana Department of Revenue as a Not-for-Profit organization, the group will have been issued an Indiana Not-for-Profit Number.) Once you are registered with the Indiana Department of Revenue, your group must annually file an application with the State of Indiana [45 IAC 45-18-2-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). Depending on the market value of the prizes you will offer, you will either have to register with the Indiana Department of Revenue or file an application for the raffle event. [45 IAC 18-2-4(b)(4)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). Finally, after conducting a raffle you may have to file reports with the State of Indiana, [45 IAC 18-4-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/) along with State and Federal tax returns [45 IAC 18-5-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). This may seem like a lot of red tape just to hold a raffle, but if you hold a raffle without satisfying all of the legal requirements, you have committed a Class B misdemeanor (http://www.indiana.edu/~sls/crim.html#MISDEMEANOR) [45 IAC 18-6-2] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/), and could face fines (http://www.indiana.edu/~sls/crim.html#m) and other civil penalties [45 IAC 18-6-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/).

If you still wanna do it, I am in on a few tickets!!!!

Shhhhssshhh

[Cougar_Marauder]

I would be in for 1-2 tickets @ 200

[chrish]

I have pondered the idea to have a raffle (for my motorcycle) but in the state of indiana in order to do a raffle you have to:


First, the organization must be non-profit [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(1)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/) and either have been in active, continuous existence in Indiana for at least 5 years or be affiliated with an Indiana parent organization which has been operating in Indiana at least 5 years [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(2)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). Also, the organization must be exempt from taxation under either an Indiana or Federal statute [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(3)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/).
Next, your group must be registered with the Indiana Department of Revenue as a Not-for-Profit organization [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(4)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). (If your group is registered with the Indiana Department of Revenue as a Not-for-Profit organization, the group will have been issued an Indiana Not-for-Profit Number.) Once you are registered with the Indiana Department of Revenue, your group must annually file an application with the State of Indiana [45 IAC 45-18-2-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). Depending on the market value of the prizes you will offer, you will either have to register with the Indiana Department of Revenue or file an application for the raffle event. [45 IAC 18-2-4(b)(4)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). Finally, after conducting a raffle you may have to file reports with the State of Indiana, [45 IAC 18-4-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/) along with State and Federal tax returns [45 IAC 18-5-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). This may seem like a lot of red tape just to hold a raffle, but if you hold a raffle without satisfying all of the legal requirements, you have committed a Class B misdemeanor (http://www.indiana.edu/~sls/crim.html#MISDEMEANOR) [45 IAC 18-6-2] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/), and could face fines (http://www.indiana.edu/~sls/crim.html#m) and other civil penalties [45 IAC 18-6-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/).

If you still wanna do it, I am in on a few tickets!!!!


Why don't you go kik your dog or something:eek::shake:

[bigbillybbs]

****I AM DEFFINITLY IN FOR 2 TICKETS***** !!!!!!!!!!!!!

we have to do this 200 tickets at $100 a piece !!!!

[DOOM]

Who will be drawing the winning ticket???

[Haggis]

100 tickets, $100 a piece.
That equals $10,000.
You would owe me $9000 if you win the raffle.


Ha, you funny mister.

[Zack]

Who will be drawing the winning ticket???

Lets ponder that thought if and when enough interest is there.

[Zack]

I have pondered the idea to have a raffle (for my motorcycle) but in the state of indiana in order to do a raffle you have to:


First, the organization must be non-profit [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(1)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/) and either have been in active, continuous existence in Indiana for at least 5 years or be affiliated with an Indiana parent organization which has been operating in Indiana at least 5 years [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(2)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). Also, the organization must be exempt from taxation under either an Indiana or Federal statute [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(3)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/).
Next, your group must be registered with the Indiana Department of Revenue as a Not-for-Profit organization [45 IAC 18-1-7 (a)(4)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). (If your group is registered with the Indiana Department of Revenue as a Not-for-Profit organization, the group will have been issued an Indiana Not-for-Profit Number.) Once you are registered with the Indiana Department of Revenue, your group must annually file an application with the State of Indiana [45 IAC 45-18-2-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). Depending on the market value of the prizes you will offer, you will either have to register with the Indiana Department of Revenue or file an application for the raffle event. [45 IAC 18-2-4(b)(4)] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). Finally, after conducting a raffle you may have to file reports with the State of Indiana, [45 IAC 18-4-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/) along with State and Federal tax returns [45 IAC 18-5-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/). This may seem like a lot of red tape just to hold a raffle, but if you hold a raffle without satisfying all of the legal requirements, you have committed a Class B misdemeanor (http://www.indiana.edu/~sls/crim.html#MISDEMEANOR) [45 IAC 18-6-2] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/), and could face fines (http://www.indiana.edu/~sls/crim.html#m) and other civil penalties [45 IAC 18-6-1] (http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/).

If you still wanna do it, I am in on a few tickets!!!!

My driver's license says I live in Illinois, and the car is registered there as well.

[O's Fan Rich]

Wouldn't the winner also be responsible for all taxes and fees associated with the transfer?
For instance, if a PA person would win, there would be a sales tax liability of 6 (or is it 7?) % on the value of the car.

Hope the idea flies, sounds like fun.

[Mest30]

Wouldn't the winner also be responsible for all taxes and fees associated with the transfer?
For instance, if a PA person would win, there would be a sales tax liability of 6 (or is it 7?) % on the value of the car.

Hope the idea flies, sounds like fun.

Yes, sales tax would apply to the buyer, but not what the car is worth, only what the car is sold for. Zach could put on the title that the car was sold for a dollar if he wanted to.

I'd be in for a 100 dollar ticket @ 200 sold, depending on how you figure out who is drawing the numbers.

[Zack]

Yes, sales tax would apply to the buyer, but not what the car is worth, only what the car is sold for. Zach could put on the title that the car was sold for a dollar if he wanted to.

I'd be in for a 100 dollar ticket @ 200 sold, depending on how you figure out who is drawing the numbers.

Unreal.
You've never met me and already you assume it would be rigged.

All i care about is the money, not who it goes to.

[magindat]

Zack,

I'd look into the legalities of the transfer like taxes and what not and be specific before selling tickets, so folks aren't caught unaware. Perhaps state "You are responsible for all tranfer of ownership and taxes in your state. You will receive a bill of sale for $XXXX.XX from me... blah blah." Maybe say something about delivery... "I'll go up to XXX miles to deliver, you are responsible for the rest... blah blah," or "I'll drive it anywhere in North America if you buy my plane ticket home...", (which I think is better, cuz some would pay the 100 bucks to meet you!!!!)

I think it's a great idea and I'd support it with at leat one ticket at 200.
I feel, though, you should donate 500-1000 back to the site for the use and priviledge of being able to even entertain the idea. I also think you'd get more participation from people if they knew 5 bucks from every ticket was going directly to this site.

I think you'd sell all 200 tickets, but I think it would take a couple months to do it. Different folks have extra money for stuff like this at different times.

I say go for it and be gracious about it!!!

Good Luck!!!!... to all!!!!

Rich

[Joe Walsh]

Yes, sales tax would apply to the buyer, but not what the car is worth, only what the car is sold for. Zach could put on the title that the car was sold for a dollar if he wanted to.



Not true in Maryland...If the sale price looks too low, the MVA will use the vehicle's blue book value to calculate the sales tax, regardless of what it was actually sold for.

The state will ALWAYS get their 'pound of flesh'....:rolleyes:

I'd be in for a raffle ticket!

[magindat]

depending on how you figure out who is drawing the numbers.


I feel, though, you should donate 500-1000 back to the site for the use and priviledge of being able to even entertain the idea. I also think you'd get more participation from people if they knew 5 bucks from every ticket was going directly to this site.

Let Mary and Bob draw?

For the record, I do not assume you won't be square. I think you would. I'm just putting it out there to help support your idea!

[Raudermaster]

Yes, sales tax would apply to the buyer, but not what the car is worth, only what the car is sold for. Zach could put on the title that the car was sold for a dollar if he wanted to.


MA is not like that, it goes by how much the car is worth which sucks actually. I bought my SHO for 600, and had to pay 200 to get it registered and all the taxes associated with it.

[vkirkend]

I'd be in for 2 tickets @ the 200 level.

[Zack]

The tickets are $100, not $200!

[vkirkend]

The tickets are $100, not $200!

That's what I meant, two tickets @ $100 each with a total of 200 tickets raffled.

[Blackmobile]

Since Arejayesss is still out of town I took it upon myself to respond for him.

And his question would be: Is anything going to the site for this endeavor?:D It's a big chunk of change.

[Zack]

Since Arejayesss is still out of town I took it upon myself to respond for him.

And his question would be: Is anything going to the site for this endeavor?:D It's a big chunk of change.

You are all forgetting that I am a paid in full vendor (not the hobby kind, the real deal)
What, if any I choose to donate to the site is purely up to me.

[Blackmobile]

You are all forgetting that I am a paid in full vendor (not the hobby kind, the real deal)
What, if any I choose to donate to the site is purely up to me.

As for me knowing that you are a Paid in full Vendor, I had no clue. Since that's the case you should be granted your own forum, which might be called "Zack's Corner". To my knowledge Raffles usually generate funds for the site or events affiliated with the site. If you are going to donate anything from this raffle to the site, then that is truly up to you. This is not to deminish all the other things (time and advise) you have given to this site, and on that note I thank you.

[Darkside]

How about 200 tickets and $100 a piece, and you donate 2k to charity.

[larryo340]

Not true in Maryland...If the sale price looks too low, the MVA will use the vehicle's blue book value to calculate the sales tax, regardless of what it was actually sold for.
The state will ALWAYS get their 'pound of flesh'....:rolleyes:


DMV does the same thing here in NY

[Mest30]

Unreal.
You've never met me and already you assume it would be rigged.

All i care about is the money, not who it goes to.


I didnt mean to offend you, I'm just looking out for you, myself and everyone else who buys a ticket. I'm farily new here as are many others and we dont have the relationships that some of you old timers have. Wouldnt you rather try to think of something that seems fair to everyone? I mean, what if your b/f on the site won the car? People would assume it's rigged. I'm not saying that you're going to do it, but I guarantee it comes up. It'd be smarter for you just to avoid that possible scenario anyway possible.

Again, I'm sorry if I offended you. I think more people would be in on this if everyone was 100% sure they had an equal chance (again, not saying they wont have an equal chance, just saying some people might not think it.

[freakstatus]

I guess it won't be extended north of the border?? I'd be in if it was. Probably be too much hassle getting across though....

[Zack]

I guess it won't be extended north of the border?? I'd be in if it was. Probably be too much hassle getting across though....

I dont care, it would be your responsibility to get it back if you won it!

[fastblackmerc]

I'd be in for a couple of $100.00 tickets.

[Aren Jay]

How about $100 a ticket and you donate $1000 to the site.

You did say 100x100=10,000+9000. =$1000 for site and that makes 200@$100 each.

We may not agree with your charity, but we all agree with MM.net

Anyway I think it is a great Idea, and other than not having a paypal account would consider it.

Hopefully it would take a couple months though as I have no money to move a car.

As for how I get a car to Canada, that is a bit tricky. but a Marauder for $3000 ($100+ 5% of $19000 + $500 border charge, plus $275 inspecition, transportation $1125+, etc...)is a great idea. hmm I don't know if I can afford it.

Might have to do a flight to IL. That would take a couple months as well as I now need a Passport to fly there.

ok I can't stop thinking about it now.

Yeah I guess I would send $100.

Is there a non Marauder prize, like a MM.net car window sticker, for say everyone else?

If you made the tickets $125, 200 total, and everyone gets a sticker reguardless. Zack takes 20K and the 5K is used for sticker price and MM.net...

Everyone buys a sticker, and gets entered into the draw.

???

[ts-pa]

Sounds like a very interesting idea, I would be in with the 200 tickets raffle.

[J D]

beautiful Idea, but I've no room in the barn and I'm content in my N/A car at the moment, BUT if you guys come down to like the last five tickets needed to be sold I MIGHT jump in just for the hell of it. ;)

[offroadkarter]

Dont do it yet! I know someone who is interested in your car!

[Dr Caleb]

I'd be all over that too. (Don't listen to offroadkarter) :)

I'd only have to pay 5% of the purchase price to get it over the border. Which would be the cost of the raffle tickets. I'd be in for $200 worth, whatever price they come out at.

[sd8683]

Dont do it yet! I know someone who is interested in your car!

what are you doin? tell your buddy to buy a raffle ticket

[jgc61sr2002]

DMV does the same thing here in NY


Unless it's a gift.:D

[bob6364]

I would be in for atleast 2 tickets .....

[offroadkarter]

what are you doin? tell your buddy to buy a raffle ticket

Hey i want a chance to see this car some day, so im getting it as close to me as possible, besides ive already been talking to the person (another forum member) for over 3 weeks about buying this car.

Thanks for making me public enemy #1 everyone :o

[sd8683]

Hey i want a chance to see this car some day, so im getting it as close to me as possible, besides ive already been talking to the person (another forum member) for over 3 weeks about buying this car.

Thanks for making me public enemy #1 everyone :o

We all want a chance to see it, in our driveways!!! What's your buddy been waiting for, its been for sale for a month and a half, you snooze you lose!! HOPEFULLY!!!

[Raudermaster]

Hey i want a chance to see this car some day, so im getting it as close to me as possible, besides ive already been talking to the person (another forum member) for over 3 weeks about buying this car.

Thanks for making me public enemy #1 everyone :o

Making? I guarantee it's someone from CVN.

[Dark_Knight7096]

Making? I guarantee it's someone from CVN.
and what makes you think its not someone from here? And that an offer hasnt already been put in ;)

[Mike]

I'd be in for a couple of tickets @ $100 w/200 tickets being sold :banana:

[Motorhead350]

I'd be in for a couple of tickets @ $100 w/200 tickets being sold :banana:

Same here, but currently have no funds for an expence like this. If the raffle in is a month, than I can jump on!

[Zack]

Sale pending to a forum member.
Should be finalized...or a bust by Tuesday.

[knine]

Sale pending to a forum member.
Should be finalized...or a bust by Tuesday.
I'm guessing ........Barry.

[CRUZTAKER]

What???

I already have a Marauder...currently being Vortec'd! :banana2:


The possible buyer is another long member that very much needs to be finalized, and one I have always enjoyed at meets.

[Aren Jay]

This is a great sales tactic, except it pee's the rest of us off.

So I guess your raffling off your blue if you sell the black one?

[dpotter]

Just raffle it! If the sale falls through I'm in for 2 tickets.

[sailsmen]

How about 200 tickets and $100 a piece, and you donate 2k to charity.

How about you donate 2k to charity!

[sailsmen]

How about everyone that is suggesting $ be donated to charity or this site start by doing the same with their own money and then report back to us?

[sailsmen]

This is a great sales tactic, except it pee's the rest of us off.

So I guess your raffling off your blue if you sell the black one?

What are you peed about, that he won't be giving $2K to charity?

[knine]

What???

I already have a Marauder...currently being Vortec'd! :banana2:
OOps, me bad. I thought you were wanting a car that's wheels were on the ground, not a lift :eek:

[Darkside]

How about you donate 2k to charity!
You don't know me or what I donate. Everyone in the world knows that he paid 16k for the car which would still leave a 2k profit. I'd gladly donate 2k if I made another 2k without doing anything.

[Ken]

You don't know me or what I donate. Everyone in the world knows that he paid 16k for the car which would still leave a 2k profit. I'd gladly donate 2k if I made another 2k without doing anything.I didn't know what he paid, nor do I care how much he makes on his car. It's his to do as he pleases. None of our business to tell anyone how to spend or give away their money. If you or anyone else doesn't like it, don't buy a ticket or bid on the car. JMHO.

"Carry on gents!"

Ken

[knine]

I'd gladly donate 2k if I made another 2k without doing anything.
Actually, Zack did check the car out, minor tuning, dynoed if I remember correctly. I'd gladly pay the $ if I was looking, cause it's a "Zack certified car" :2thumbs:

[Darkside]

No doubt the car is worth the 20k he was originally asking. But if you are going to raffle (which is illegal) then you might as well get around the legality for a good cause.

[sailsmen]

No doubt the car is worth the 20k he was originally asking. But if you are going to raffle (which is illegal) then you might as well get around the legality for a good cause.

This makes no sense.

How does giving part of the "illegal" proceeds "get around the legality"? "I'd gladly donate 2k if I made another 2k without doing anything."

I wonder if this definition that you have of "nothing" also applies to how you make a living?


How are you privy to another mans "profit"? Have you seen his log book of expenses such as interest, insurance, maintenance, storage and hours he has spent? Unless you are privy to another mans expenses and cost you have only speculation as to their profit.

Do as you please wirth your own money.

When you publically tell another man what to do with his critisim will usually follow.

FYI, you can donate to this site from the "profits" you have enjoyed by participating. You then become a CONTRIBUTING MEMBER.

[Aren Jay]

What are you peed about, that he won't be giving $2K to charity?


That he might sell the car instead of raffling it off.

Charity begins at home.

and if raffling the car off is illegal then a sticker purchase or the like with free entry into the draw fro the car, would be a way around it. Unless you must make said car raffle no purchase necessary...

[Darkside]

How are you privy to another mans "profit"? Have you seen his log book of expenses such as interest, insurance, maintenance, storage and hours he has spent? Unless you are privy to another mans expenses and cost you have only speculation as to their profit.

FYI, you can donate to this site from the "profits" you have enjoyed by participating. You then become a CONTRIBUTING MEMBER.
I'm done hijacking this thread. I've seen the raffle idea too many times online and it never happens. As far as seeing the profit, its not difficult to read the past posts about the car; what it was bought for and work done to it.

If and when I buy a Marauder, I'll gladly become a contributing member. But it won't make my opinion any better than anyone else.

My apologies to Zack, good luck on the sale. You bought it for an investment, give it time and it will sell for your asking price.

[Blk Mamba]

I don't understand why you are all so bent out of shape, (got your panties in a bunch), if you don't want to purchase a ticket to be awarded an automobile, then don't, but quit pi$$ing, and moaning about it. I wish I could afford to purchase one, I think it's a great deal. And then if Zack wants to "donate" then so be it, if not, so what, shut up!

[bob6364]

I can't believe some of you guys are trying to tell Zack what he can do with his money. 2K is alot of money and I don't believe for a sec that anyone here would take half the profit from the sale of a car and send it off to this site.

[Zack]

Unreal some of the comments..

Thanks to those who made sense.

And no its not a sales tactic...this raffle idea.

A sale is pending and I dont need to explain myself.
With that said, I will now exercise my one right as a vendor.