What and the hell.....

[Raudermaster]

My car is a freak of nature. She laid down 445rwhp and 408rwtq today. Couldn't believe it. It's a monster now. And that's with NOIC. Tune is very safe too! Mid 11's for an AF.

[Raudermaster]

Here are some vids. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dVLt9FYCOI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dVLt9FYCOI)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0DlVMFTMoU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0DlVMFTMoU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es8tO1gY5Sk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es8tO1gY5Sk)

Uncorrected was 451 and 413.

[ImpalaSlayer]

posted it on your other thred but those are some good numbers. what kind of exhaust do you have

[sd8683]

Awesome numbers jarod, that must make you wanna keep it huh??

[TiTo35]

I thought you were selling it?

[DOOM]

Welcome to the world of boost. Where did you get your dyno and tune done?

[Raudermaster]

posted it on your other thred but those are some good numbers. what kind of exhaust do you have

DR Cobra exhaust with Flow's.


Awesome numbers jarod, that must make you wanna keep it huh??

Thanks Sean, a part of me wants to now...


I thought you were selling it?

It is, but I need a dyno tune to make it entirely safe, it just had a base DR tune. I wanted full potential.


Welcome to the world of boost. Where did you get your dyno and tune done?

It's been boosted for the past 2 weeks, just hadn't gotten a tune done. Outlaw Dyno.

[Blackened300a]

My car is a freak of nature. She laid down 445rwhp and 408rwtq today. Couldn't believe it. It's a monster now. And that's with NOIC. Tune is very safe too! Mid 11's for an AF.

Its not a freak, its a black 300A, thats the way they all are! :D

Nice numbers, hope that will convince you to keep it!

[Raudermaster]

Thanks Paul!

[Raudermaster]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/5/6/2/9/JARODDYNO.JPG

[ryanstickney1]

F'n SWEET!!!! Nice job!

[sailsmen]

Great numbers. I noticed it was 73*.

Be careful when the ambient rises and you keep it WOT, or BOOM!

Get a guage and keep an eye on the IAT.

[Blackmobile]

Great numbers. I noticed it was 73*.

Be careful when the ambient rises and you keep it WOT, or BOOM!

Get a guage and keep an eye on the IAT.

I was under the impression that if the ambient temp rises the HP would go down do to heat soak. That's the reason we don't seriously race in the summer, down here.

As for alternative IAT tracking, it can be done using the Xcal 2 via live link.

Ed

[Zack]

Sumtin aint right with this picture!


I bet the tuner has a non-loading dyno and stuffed a crapload of timing at it for 'The Glory Pull' and made numbers like that.


...just keepin it real :eek:

[Raudermaster]

FYI, the timing was left STOCK. It was right at 14-15. 3 pulls were made, the first pull he really didn't tweak it much, it threw down 420ish or so. Then the last two were tampered with.

[Zack]

FYI, the timing was left STOCK. It was right at 14-15. 3 pulls were made, the first pull he really didn't tweak it much, it threw down 420ish or so. Then the last two were tampered with.

Timing on a stock Marauder is like 19
With a tune its 24!

[Zack]

Those are some serious #'s and I applaud them, just never heard of a NOIC kit making that much :confused:

My Blue made 449/410 with an intercooler and 16 degrees.
Any more timing and it will ping.

[Zack]

I see it says...How to Rain on a parade under Tags.

Can the author do that in a thread?

Explain.

[03blackvegas]

May I say, nice notes from exhaust.

[knine]

That's a lotta cowbell

[Raudermaster]

May I say, nice notes from exhaust.


That's a lotta cowbell

Thanks guys!

[Raudermaster]

I see it says...How to Rain on a parade under Tags.

Can the author do that in a thread?

Explain.

I didn't put those there Zack. If I can, I'll go back and get a screen shot of the DataLog to show you. I'm 100% positive the timing was at 14-15.

[OneBADLsE]

ROTFL @ the tags!


BTW jarod, i sent you a PM

[Raudermaster]

Let me know Len. BTW, the timing on a stock Cobra is about 19. He's done 3 other MM's, they've all been 14-15. I just got off the phone with him.

[Paul]

Jarod - most impressive man. Congrats!

[Raudermaster]

Thanks Paul! Hope yours will put that down too! I can't believe I just wanted to post how great of an outcome I had, and all these ridiculous tags pop up. I'm not sure how to take the "ha-ha noic" one as an insult, or like haha it's the cheapest kit and puts down a great amount of power.

[Blackmobile]

How much Boost were you pushin ?

[Windsor58]

+1 - how much boost?

[sailsmen]

I was under the impression that if the ambient temp rises the HP would go down do to heat soak. That's the reason we don't seriously race in the summer, down here.

As for alternative IAT tracking, it can be done using the Xcal 2 via live link.

Ed

It will quickly go from a ping to a boom. Point is it was tuned w/ ambient @73*.

When it's over 73* I would closely monitor the IAT.

I have seen cars, not mine, that were tuned in the early spring and run great until summer and start pinging.

[Raudermaster]

It's the stock 9#.

[ImpalaSlayer]

wtf is with these tags? and how did they get there and what do they do?

[Rocknthehawk]

i'm glad to hear you got it tuned, even if you woke me up at 11:30 to tell me :)

[Raudermaster]

Anytime buddy. Now you and Adam have to come down!

[Rocknthehawk]

Anytime buddy. Now you and Adam have to come down!


just let me know when, and i'll come visit

[Raudermaster]

Oh and Zack, you were right. That timing isn't stock, it's retarded. He bumped it down to 14. But yet, the 445 is false and not safe.http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/5/6/2/9/loser1.gif

[Raudermaster]

Thanks Mary. I'm so glad I can voice my opinion on MY car in this forum. :shake:

[hot-rauder]

Thanks Mary. I'm so glad I can voice my opinion on MY car in this forum. :shake:


im lost.... what happened to your tags?

[OneBADLsE]

^^^ Looks like they have been "modded"

[MM03MOK]

Thanks Mary. I'm so glad I can voice my opinion on MY car in this forum. :shake:
I deleted your less than polite Tags comment. If you want to post up your comment about your car, go right ahead. I'm getting tired of the crap language used by some. Why is it appropriate to use the F-bomb in talking about Tags??

Tags are used to help search for topics by keyword. They would be helpful if they weren't abused. That didn't take long. How about we try to use the Tags to help ourselves navigate the website instead of a silly toy.

[SWOOSH]

That poor hood light ain't gonna last!

[Raudermaster]

I deleted your less than polite Tags comment. If you want to post up your comment about your car, go right ahead. I'm getting tired of the crap language used by some. Why is it appropriate to use the F-bomb in talking about Tags??

Tags are used to help search for topics by keyword. They would be helpful if they weren't abused. That didn't take long. How about we try to use the Tags to help ourselves navigate the website instead of a silly toy.

Actually, if you read the thread, I didn't put ANY TAGS in my thread. They were put here by other members. If I put them there, why couldn't I delete them myself? It's because I didn't put them there, hence I couldn't delete them.

[KillJoy]

Nice numbers!

But....

A NOIC Kit, 9#'s of Boost, Cobra Exhaust....

I am guessing your Tuner bumped the Timing for a hail mary pull, then bumped it back down to a safe level. I would DEFINATELY watch for pinging once the temps get above 85-90.

Either way....

:up:

KillJoy

[MM03MOK]

I deleted your less than polite Tags comment. If you want to post up your comment about your car, go right ahead. I'm getting tired of the crap language used by some. Why is it appropriate to use the F-bomb in talking about Tags??

Tags are used to help search for topics by keyword. They would be helpful if they weren't abused. That didn't take long. How about we try to use the Tags to help ourselves navigate the website instead of a silly toy.


Actually, if you read the thread, I didn't put ANY TAGS in my thread. They were put here by other members. If I put them there, why couldn't I delete them myself? It's because I didn't put them there, hence I couldn't delete them.Didn't say you posted the tags, Jarod. I was commenting on the useless tags being posted and it was directed at those playing games with the new feature.

My comment directed at you was your less than tactful comment on the tags. :pill:

[Raudermaster]

Gotcha Mary. Sorry if I over-reacted.

[Raudermaster]

Nice numbers!

But....

A NOIC Kit, 9#'s of Boost, Cobra Exhaust....

I am guessing your Tuner bumped the Timing for a hail mary pull, then bumped it back down to a safe level. I would DEFINATELY watch for pinging once the temps get above 85-90.

Either way....

:up:

KillJoy

I watched him the whole time. He made the first pull, it hit 424 at about 17 or 18 degrees of timing, and he backed it off down to 14 from there. The 2nd pull was about 435 or so, hopped back to the computer and fiddled some more, then made the last pull.

[dreydin]

/tag for those vids!

[Raudermaster]

Do you not have a computer at your house? Everytime someone posts pictures, or a video, you do the "/tag" for them because you can't view them. Tough *****! Go to the *****ing library then! Are you playing War Games like Matthew Broderick?

[KillJoy]

Do you not have a computer at your house? Everytime someone posts pictures, or a video, you do the "/tag" for them because you can't view them. Tough *****! Go to the *****ing library then! Are you playing War Games like Matthew Broderick?

Calm down.

:rolleyes:

KillJoy

[Raudermaster]

Calm down.

:rolleyes:

KillJoy

lol, I'm only messing around. I guess I just hate when the real computer "gaming" guys start using the weird terminology that makes you sound like you're 10..

[Paul T. Casey]

Nice numbers, now lets see the the only numbers that really matter, ET and trap speed. :coolman:

[Pops]

Nice numbers, now lets see the the only numbers that really matter, ET and trap speed. :coolman:

Right on Paul! ;)

[KB-Marauder-S]

Right on Paul! ;)

I think after all this talk we should make bets on what Jarod is going to run in the 1/4 ???

I'm in for 12.9

[KillJoy]

I think after all this talk we should make bets on what Jarod is going to run in the 1/4 ???

I'm in for 12.9


13.4

:up:

KillJoy

[Raudermaster]

Steve may be right, as it will be my first time at thet rack with the MM.

[bob6364]

Lots of people like the Outlaw Dyno they come away with big numbers ...I haven't heard of to many going pop either...

[Raudermaster]

Lots of people like the Outlaw Dyno they come away with big numbers ...I haven't heard of to many going pop either...

Yup, some big, fantastic things have come out of there. Doug is a real stand up guy and tells it like it is and is a straight shooter. He was really shocked when I said it should make 400rwhp, and he got 445 out of it. He said it's ridiculous when people come in expecting it to throw down 450hp, and it only can make 350.

[Raudermaster]

And also, the one thing that Doug is great about, if it's not safe, or wouldn't be safe in real world conditions, he wouldn't let the vehicle leave until it was and was perfect.

[Eric-Blk2004]

I had good experiences over in DEZ tuning and the guy said the samething about Outlaw dyno. Good shops all around.

And who cares if he pushed the timing and the put it back to be safe. He wanted to see how much the motor can make safely under ideal conditions and then he bumps it back from that to make sure its 100% safe. Its not a problem if he tells what he is doing, its only misleading to the people who do not ask.

When I did my pull he got to the hp in my sig and then he added a little love in terms of fuel/timing on the top end to ensure that nothing would pop if it got hot etc. Now I can drive it however I want and be totally satisfied.

If you want the max then be ready to pay when you go over the edge.

[Raudermaster]

Exactly what you said, he told me exactly what he was doing, added some more fuel at the top and retarded the timing a bit to make it safer and it stayed safely at 445 and he left it as is since it is safe.

[Zack]

Exactly what you said, he told me exactly what he was doing, added some more fuel at the top and retarded the timing a bit to make it safer and it stayed safely at 445 and he left it as is since it is safe.

Did you tell us what kind of dyno you were on?

[Raudermaster]

Well if you look at the chart, it says Dynojet Research. So let me guess, now it "doesn't" count because it's not a Mustang right?

[Zack]

Calm down.

:rolleyes:

KillJoy


Well if you look at the chart, it says Dynojet Research. So let me guess, now it "doesn't" count because it's not a Mustang right?

^^^ What Steve said.

[Eric-Blk2004]

Dynos are just numbers its how the car feels and how it performs. I am happy with my car because the stumble is gone and it moves on the highway.

Its a 4500lb car I dont care what the numbers are it will get run by most things on the track with comparable modifications.

That assuming you want to ignore the cost of getting the numbers verus the cost on getting the numbers else. Either way your splitting hairs and people do what they want so yea.

[Raudermaster]

^^^ What Steve said.

Well before you were doubting it and saying he doesn't know how to tune, and then asked that, so I thougt you were being a jerk since it said Dynojet right on the graph. Sorry.

[OneBADLsE]

Well before you were doubting it, and then asked that, so I thougt you were being a jerk since it said Dynojet right on the graph. Sorry.


Guys calm down....


The numbers are what they are. And he has a sheet to proove it. What are you gonna do next? Ask him to Do another pull and go straight to the screen?? :confused:

[Raudermaster]

Len you gonna call me tomorrow/Saturday morning?

[sailsmen]

I think what is throwing people off is Outlaw.

Go to the track ,make note of the weather and elevation and all doubters will become believers.;)

[hot-rauder]

sorry i must say it...

the title of this thread was misspelled. Jarod, king of grammar, the correct title should be "What in the Hell?" not and

[Raudermaster]

I think what is throwing people off is Outlaw.

Go to the track ,make note of the weather and elevation and all doubters will become believers.;)

Thanks Billy!


sorry i must say it...

the title of this thread was misspelled. Jarod, king of grammar, the correct title should be "What in the Hell?" not and

Adam,
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/wiztees_2008_16623811

[Rocknthehawk]

it's been said enough in this thread:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/rocknthehawk/Scouse-keyboard-eh-eh-eh-calm-down-.jpg


just kidding jarod. Let me know what time to be there Sunday! :banana2:

edit:just making sure it actually works. jarod=fail

[Raudermaster]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/5/6/2/9/aaronfail.bmp

[Raudermaster]

Ahahahahah, just kidding. I don't know, Lenny hasn't called me yet...

[Rocknthehawk]

dude...pic works fine...

i even went in to edit it, and it still works fine. haha

[Raudermaster]

It works now, before it didn't.

[Rocknthehawk]

It works now, before it didn't.

SOUNDS LIKE YOUR CAR

:flamer:

[hot-rauder]

SOUNDS LIKE YOUR CAR

:flamer:


http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z302/blkmarauder/burnkit.jpg

[Raudermaster]

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/478/toolsxz7.jpg

[fastcar]

Wow, crazy thread. Glad I missed that scene.:eek:

But the car is awesome, congrats, Jarod.:beer:

Could you explain 'NOIC'? Is it 'no intercooler'? Also, is 'Outlaw' a dyno shop, or is it DEZ racing's dyno facility? Thanks.

btw, is that a kit just for Marauders, or was it a Mustang kit? It's totally awesome, reminds me of a paxton.

Take care,

fastcar:burnout:

[sd8683]

Outlaw dyno is just a dyno tuning facility, dez racing is a mustang shop with its own dyno

[Raudermaster]

Outlaw is fantastic, 0 issues and Doug is the man. It basically is a 'Stang kit, but re-made for a Marauder. As for Paxton, I was supposed to get one, but essentially they're the same.

[voltage5659]

Nice numbers!!!!!