Air Bag(Safety not Ride) Light - Code 53

[Eric-Blk2004]

Hey guys,

I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the following Air Bag code:

35 Low Resistance Across Pins 8 and 9 at Diagnostic Monitor

I was at the dealership this week and they said this is an error that is not covered under Warranty. They said it was a either a grounded out wire, a shorted wire, or something in the wiring harness. He stated the 5/50 warranty on airbags only covers the airbag deploying and faulty airbag units.

He said that the code has a flow chart that takes up to 5 hours to troubleshoot and I am looking at 500 dollars in terms of diagnostics. Needless to say I told him to stop work and I would take the car.

I read on the forums about loose connections under seats and stuff like that and look for any but did not see any.

Needless to say I am in a rock and a hard spot - any advice for me? Or should I just take the car to the dealership and hand over gas money for the next month.:(

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

[Eric-Blk2004]

I found this via google - any Ford experts or users attest to how accurate this is? And how long it would take to check?

Here is the article:

http://ford.justanswer.com/thunderbird/xeo2-air-bag-warning-flashing-53-35

[larryo340]

It's kind of wierd, but my factory Ford dvd manual does not show code 35 (the LFC column = Lamp Fault Code). Were you able to check the pcm for codes?
The pages of the manual are in this attachment:

[JMan]

No code 35 here either for this car. Pins 8&9 at the Restraint Control Module are not related. The info you found is incorrect for the Panther chassis. Where did you get that code info? You need to find a competent dealership and take it there first.

Best luck,

JMan

[Eric-Blk2004]

Sorry guys its code 53. I just rechecked again. It flashes 5 then a shorter pause then 3 then a very long pause.

The seatbelt light is red and on even when I buckle up. The alarm flashes 3 to 6 times while driving and eventually shuts up. Whats the deal with that?

Any input would be greatly appericated!

[MM2004]

:confused: I thought Delta (safety) items were covered up to 100k?

Mike.

[Eric-Blk2004]

He said that the warranty only covers mechanical problems - faulty units etc. This is an electrical issues and hence is not covered. He said it would take up to 5 hours of troubleshooting to ID the problem, and then the costs to repair it.

This is basically going to break my bank for the next month I was hoping not to dip into my savings during this lovely economy being that I work in the financial market and well you know how that goes.

[wchain]

LFC 53/DTC B1891-ABS Tone Warn Ind Ckt Short to Batt
http://www.alldatadiy.com/alldata/AFI%7EV12492727%7EC35263%7ER0% 7EOB0%7EP2R0X%7EN/0/80851247/83204708/83204709/83204713/34853741/34866154/34866155/34866162/116667831/99567191/134871608/87597252
http://www.alldatadiy.com/alldata/AFI%7EV12492727%7EC35263%7ER0% 7EOB0%7EP2R0X%7EN/0/80851247/83204708/83204709/83204713/34853741/34866154/34866155/34866162/116667831/99567191/134871608/87597253

[Eric-Blk2004]

Is there more to this PDF? Thanks.

[larryo340]

Here is the complete pinpoint test E
It's too big as an attachment, if you would like I can email it to you as a WORD document. For some reason when pasted it removed diagrams.


PINPOINT TEST E: LFC 53/DTC B1892 — AIR BAG TONE WARNING INDICATOR CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND OR OPEN



Test Step Result / Action to Take E1 CHECK FOR A HARD OR INTERMITTENT DTC

Enter the following diagnostic mode on the diagnostic tool: Retrieve/Record Continuous DTCs.
Enter the following diagnostic mode on the diagnostic tool: On-Demand Self Test.
Was DTC B1892 retrieved during the on-demand self test?
Yes
This is a hard fault. The fault condition is still present. This fault cannot be cleared until it is corrected and the DTC is no longer retrieved during the on-demand self test. GO to E2 (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB05.htm~ge n~ref.htm#E2).

No


This is an intermittent fault. The fault condition is not present at this time. GO to E5 (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB05.htm~ge n~ref.htm#E5). E2 CHECK THE AIR BAG TONE WARNING INDICATOR CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO GROUND

file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=ani_caut.gif~ge n~ref.gif WARNING: If the supplemental restraint system (SRS) is being serviced, the system must be deactivated and restraint system diagnostic tools must be installed. Refer to Air Bag and Safety Belt Pretensioner Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB03.htm~ge n~ref.htm)in this section.

The air bag restraint system diagnostic tools must be removed and the air bag modules reconnected when the system is reactivated to avoid non-deployment in a collision, resulting in possible personal injury. file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=ani_caut.gif~ge n~ref.gif WARNING: Never probe the connectors on the air bag module. Doing so can result in air bag deployment, which can result in personal injury. file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=ani_caut.gif~ge n~ref.gif WARNING: The safety belt pretensioner is a pyrotechnic device. Always wear safety glasses when repairing an air bag equipped vehicle and when handling a safety belt buckle pretensioner or safety belt retractor pretensioner. Never probe a pretensioner electrical connector. Doing so could result in pretensioner or air bag deployment and could result in personal injury. NOTE: After diagnosing or repairing an SRS, the restraint system diagnostic tools must be removed before operating the vehicle over the road. NOTE: After diagnosing or repairing a seat system, the restraint system diagnostic tools must be removed before operating the vehicle over the road. NOTE: The SRS must be fully operational and free of faults before releasing the vehicle to the customer.
Key in OFF position.
Deactivate the system. Refer to Air Bag and Safety Belt Pretensioner Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB03.htm~ge n~ref.htm)in the Diagnosis and Testing portion of this section.
Disconnect: RCM C310b.
Disconnect: Lighting Control Module C2145a.
Measure the resistance between RCM C310b pin 11, circuit 1083 (LB/BK), harness side and RCM C310b pin 10, circuit 57 (BK), harness side.
file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=A0029760.gif~ge n~ref.gif
Is the resistance greater than 1,000,000 ohms?
Yes
GO to E3 (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB05.htm~ge n~ref.htm#E3).

No


REPAIR circuit 1083 (LB/BK). GO to E6 (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB05.htm~ge n~ref.htm#E6). E3 CHECK THE AIR BAG TONE WARNING INDICATOR CIRCUIT FOR AN OPEN

Measure the resistance between RCM C310b pin 11, circuit 1083 (LB/BK), harness side and lighting control module C2145a pin 17, circuit 1083 (LB/BK), harness side.
file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=A0030693.gif~ge n~ref.gif
Is the resistance less than 0.5 ohms?
Yes
GO to E4 (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB05.htm~ge n~ref.htm#E4).

No


REPAIR circuit 1083 (LB/BK). GO to E6 (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB05.htm~ge n~ref.htm#E6). E4 CHECK THE AIR BAG TONE WARNING INDICATOR

Connect: Lighting Control Module C2145a.
Key in ON position.
Measure the voltage at RCM C310b pin 11, circuit 1083 (LB/BK).
file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=A0015359.gif~ge n~ref.gif
Is the voltage less than 0.2 volt?
Yes
INSTALL a new lighting control module. REFER to Section 413-01A (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~leftside=S3ASD1AL.ht m&rightside=S3ASD1AR.htm&market=us&lang=en~gen~2col.htm)or Section 413-01B (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~leftside=S3ASD1BL.ht m&rightside=S3ASD1BR.htm&market=us&lang=en~gen~2col.htm). GO to E6 (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB05.htm~ge n~ref.htm#E6).

No


INSTALL a new RCM. REFER to Restraints Control Module (RCM) (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB21.htm~ge n~ref.htm). GO to E6 (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB05.htm~ge n~ref.htm#E6). E5 CHECK FOR AN INTERMITTENT FAULT

file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=ani_caut.gif~ge n~ref.gif WARNING: If the supplemental restraint system (SRS) is being serviced, the system must be deactivated and restraint system diagnostic tools must be installed. Refer to Air Bag and Safety Belt Pretensioner Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB03.htm~ge n~ref.htm)in this section.

The air bag restraint system diagnostic tools must be removed and the air bag modules reconnected when the system is reactivated to avoid non-deployment in a collision, resulting in possible personal injury. file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=ani_caut.gif~ge n~ref.gif WARNING: Never probe the connectors on the air bag module. Doing so can result in air bag deployment, which can result in personal injury. file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=ani_caut.gif~ge n~ref.gif WARNING: The safety belt pretensioner is a pyrotechnic device. Always wear safety glasses when repairing an air bag equipped vehicle and when handling a safety belt buckle pretensioner or safety belt retractor pretensioner. Never probe a pretensioner electrical connector. Doing so could result in pretensioner or air bag deployment and could result in personal injury. NOTE: After diagnosing or repairing an SRS, the restraint system diagnostic tools must be removed before operating the vehicle over the road. NOTE: After diagnosing or repairing a seat system, the restraint system diagnostic tools must be removed before operating the vehicle over the road. NOTE: The SRS must be fully operational and free of faults before releasing the vehicle to the customer.
Key in OFF position.
Deactivate the system. Refer to Air Bag and Safety Belt Pretensioner Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB03.htm~ge n~ref.htm)in the Diagnosis and Testing portion of this section.
Key in ON position.
Enter the following diagnostic mode on the diagnostic tool: On-Demand Self Test.
Was DTC B1892 retrieved during the on-demand self test?
Yes
GO to E2 (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB05.htm~ge n~ref.htm#E2).

No


CHECK for causes of intermittent short to ground or open on circuit 1083 (LB/BK). ATTEMPT to recreate the hard fault by flexing the wire harness and cycling the ignition key frequently. REPAIR any intermittent concerns found. GO to E6 (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB05.htm~ge n~ref.htm#E6). E6 CHECK FOR ADDITIONAL DTCs

Refer to the continuous DTCs recorded during Step E1.
Were any continuous DTCs retrieved during Step E1?
Yes
Do not clear any DTCs until all DTCs have been resolved. GO to the Restraints Control Module (RCM) Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Priority Table in this section for pinpoint test direction.

No
RECONNECT the system. REACTIVATE the system. PROVE OUT the system. REFER to Air Bag and Safety Belt Pretensioner Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) (file:///C:/TSO/tsocache/LARRY-PC_1808/S3A~us~en~file=S3A1KB03.htm~ge n~ref.htm)in this section. CLEAR all DTCs

[MM2004]

I edited the title of this thread to show '53' error code for accuracy and future reference. ;)

Carry on...

Mike.