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usabodyguard
07-13-2008, 05:28 PM
Long story short, I am the director of Bodyguard Training International, and part of our training is tactical driving. Our tactical driving instructor is Bobby Ore who is one of the top stunt drivers in the country (side note, Dennis R, he mentioned knowing you and that you tuned his crown vics, small world, i told him i have your tune)

anyways, Bobby had a class out here this weekend and I went out and played for a couple of days... i figured i would put the marauder through its' paces and here is a video of me doing a J-turn...

:D

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g194/usabodyguard/th_Reverse180MM.jpg (http://s56.photobucket.com/albums/g194/usabodyguard/?action=view&current=Reverse180MM.flv)

94_302
07-13-2008, 05:36 PM
That looks like fun....:hmmm:

Stroszek
07-13-2008, 05:42 PM
Cool! Well executed.I would love to take one of those courses one day.

offroadkarter
07-13-2008, 05:43 PM
That looks like fun....:hmmm:


+1 i gotta learn that stuffs :D

gonzo50
07-13-2008, 06:54 PM
So, how is that manuever accomplished, once you hit the brakes and turn, you drop down to drive and you're off ?:confused:

Does the tranny get any abuse ?:beatnik:

usabodyguard
07-13-2008, 07:01 PM
NO BRAKES AT ALL!!!! thats how cars get flipped over...

get car up to speed... 30-45 mph.... whip the wheel around, half way through the tunr drop it into drive... DONT TRY THIS AT HOME... if you dont do it right, you can flip your car, and grenade your trans...

I have been doing this for close to 11 years now... and hundreds of times...

Aren Jay
07-13-2008, 07:23 PM
How about neutral?

I heard Jim Garner loved doing these turns.

freakstatus
07-13-2008, 07:46 PM
I do that all the time in my 2005 GTO....on Need for Speed: Most Wanted.:D

sweetair
07-13-2008, 08:03 PM
That really looked very clean. Good job. Not sure I would have the cajones to do that in MY Marauder. I would definitely try it in someone else's.:D

Windsor58
07-13-2008, 08:47 PM
Nice. What airport is that by? Looks like an old Lockheed Constellation in the background at the end.

usabodyguard
07-13-2008, 09:13 PM
camarillo airport...

thanks for the compliments!

TAKEDOWN
07-13-2008, 11:26 PM
oooooooooooOOOO that's nice!

sailsmen
07-14-2008, 03:51 AM
Thanks, thats an addictive video!

ctrlraven
07-14-2008, 05:26 AM
In the words of Mortal Kombat "Flawless Victory" lol, good job.

John F. Russo
07-14-2008, 05:32 AM
So, how is that manuever accomplished, once you hit the brakes and turn, you drop down to drive and you're off ?:confused:

Does the tranny get any abuse ?:beatnik:

Thank you for the detailed listing of your mods.

My Car
2003 Dark Blue Pearl 300B (Canadian) w/Light Flint (reversed traction control, mini spare, trunked 6 disc CD changer, clock-in-the-radio, heated front seats/mirrors, hood light), Born 12/10/02; converted new then used 2/28/03; 70,000 miles
ENGINE: Kenny Brown: 6th “Signature Series” conversion, Vortech supercharger (5 to 7 psig boost; 3.48 pulley), 400 RWHP/377 RWTQ, 8.8lbs/BHP; Dennis Reinhart Cobra engine cooling kit TRANSMISSION: Stock transmission upgraded with Performance Automatic "Super Streeter" transmission version, stub shaft (defective metal) failed at 30k miles; upgraded internals (except for torque converter) to Reinhart's design; Precision, triple disc, P/N469018-3, later upgraded to 3500 rpm stall speed); Ford Racing transmission aluminum pan SUSPENSION: Metco control arms (black powdered coated), coil from each front stock spring removed to produce the “same” effect as an Eibach spring DRIVETRAIN 4.10 gears, MMX Driveshaft, Ford Racing Stud and Girdle BRAKES:14 in. KVR brakes (two piston, slotted rotors), TIRES: Pirelli P-Zero Asimmetrico (front 255/45ZR18, rear widened rims 285/45ZR18), ACCESSORIES: Wheel locks (Ford), godshead valve stem caps, KB Dead pedal, Badgeless front grille by “Zack”; Zaino waxing; RainX; 3M protective film, FordChip, Ground clearance: 5 in. MISCELLANEOUS 18.5 mpg at a steady speed of 80 mph, one tank of gas

John F. Russo
07-14-2008, 05:44 AM
NO BRAKES AT ALL!!!! thats how cars get flipped over...

get car up to speed... 30-45 mph.... whip the wheel around, half way through the tunr drop it into drive... DONT TRY THIS AT HOME... if you dont do it right, you can flip your car, and grenade your trans...

I have been doing this for close to 11 years now... and hundreds of times...


What a great video! Thank you.

At what speed are you going when you put it into drive? Are you skidding when this is happening?.

usabodyguard
07-14-2008, 09:17 AM
you should do the maneuver between 25-40mph which is very fast for reverse~! do not touch the brakes... bad news.

here is another video, better and longer... you can get a better idea of the speed in this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_KsFQ3xzyo

Loco1234
07-14-2008, 09:28 AM
Thats Awesome... And I thought I used to pull off some pretty precise turns and 180's in my 86 XR4TI.... That was perfect in a 4200pound big boy car....

John F. Russo
07-14-2008, 06:13 PM
you should do the maneuver between 25-40mph which is very fast for reverse~! do not touch the brakes... bad news.

here is another video, better and longer... you can get a better idea of the speed in this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_KsFQ3xzyo


After watching it a few times I can see that when you put the car in Drive (forward) the car is essentially stopped just before it goes forward. So the key is that as soon as the car is at this critical position, it is safe to put the car in drive.

Is this correct?

94_302
07-14-2008, 06:28 PM
After watching it a few times I can see that when you put the car in Drive (forward) the car is essentially stopped just before it goes forward. So the key is that as soon as the car is at this critical position, it is safe to put the car in drive.

Is this correct?

I have no experience with this so don't take my word, but remember there is a slight delay when manually shifting the tranny around. You probably have to have some experience to anticipate how long the delay is so you can shift it just before it reaches that point.

It looks like fun but I can't imagine trying that if I had your car, I be too scared something would go wrong. Blue Marauders are rare enough but a KB Blue :drool: Off topic: Do you know if there were any other blue marauders that KB did or if there were even any other colors converted besides black? Yours is the only non-black car I have heard of/seen.

usabodyguard
07-14-2008, 11:01 PM
dont be scaaaarrrred.... its only money guys...

anyways, it is second nature for me, not bragging but if you have done it hundreds of times, it just works... half way through the spin, drop it in drive (or any lower gear)...

so yes, you are right.

Aren Jay
07-14-2008, 11:16 PM
Are you the actor and bodyguard or bodyguard alone?

John F. Russo
07-16-2008, 04:29 AM
NO BRAKES AT ALL!!!! thats how cars get flipped over...

get car up to speed... 30-45 mph.... whip the wheel around, half way through the tunr drop it into drive... DONT TRY THIS AT HOME... if you dont do it right, you can flip your car, and grenade your trans...

I have been doing this for close to 11 years now... and hundreds of times...

As you said, "You can flip a car over". I would disagree with this statement from my personal experience.

Here is a test case with my Kenny Brown car lowered by 1.5 in. with soft Pirelli stock sized 8 in. wide tires from which I have excerpted page 1 of 4 pages as follows (See thread called, "Turning a MM over on a road?):

"Can a Marauder turn over on a smooth highway asphalt road?

Inadvertently I did a test on such a road at 11 F and the car leaned over quite a bit but it didn't turn over. Here is the story:

Date: 1/8/04
Road conditions: dry for days
Weather: 11 F, clear
Road: Four lane highway
Time: 6:45am
Speed (just before skidding): 80 to 90 mph at WOT
Tire condition: I had driven three miles stop and go just before incident.
Car design: Kenny Brown lowered my MM By close to 1.5 in.; Pirelli P Zero tires

Introduction
I have been checking the boost from my supercharger for about a week. Trying to determine the reason for its inconsistency. (From my standpoint). I get a consistent 5 psig from 50 mph and higher, that is, at 50 mph I floor it and I watch the boost gauge. I repeated this at 30 mph and have found that the boost varies from 5 to 9 psig. Can this be expalined or is it normal inconsistency?

Accident Description
I decided to add to my data base one morning. I merged onto the highway as usual. The traffic was light and a Ford Ranger looking truck was in the immediate left lane within a 100 feet in the immediate next lane about 100 feet behind me and no other cars for about 1/8 of a mile except in the passing lane thing in the far three right hand lanes. I floored the car at about 50 to 60 mph, then as usual and the rear started to fishtail. So I continued holding the gas pedal to the floor. In a matter of seconds I was watching a large amount of blue smoke in front of my windshield from my tires. Then at a slower speed I clearly remember the car was pointing to the breakdown lane trying not to go into the woods. Despite my breaking, I ended up about 20 feet into the woods.

What Happened?
I can’t determine what happened during those seconds that I feel 99% sure that I made a 90 degree between the 1st and 2nd lane (counting from the right side). I have never had that experience except in the dodg’ems at an amusement park in my teens. But the sensation was rapid turning and lots of blue smoke. I feel that my right front wheel locked up and spun me clockwise pointing to the breakdown lane. Any other thoughts about how I could have turned so fast and not remember the sensation of turning?"

(P.S. From my experience above I cannot conceive any case of my MM turining over unless I hit a curb or other obstacle that would stop my car from sliding, except that I now have widened my rear tire to 9.5 in which could make it more likely? Could anyone comment about this, please comment.)


Can you comment on what I have said?



Thank you for your coming response.

Vortex
07-16-2008, 08:40 AM
J Turns and Bootleg turns were always fun in a training situation (and not too fun when you have to do them for real.) Used to have to go to BSR every few years to practice but was glad they provided the cars and tires.

jdando
07-16-2008, 09:36 AM
That is a neat video. Nice smooth driving skills, glad there are professionals out there.

Badger
07-16-2008, 02:23 PM
I remember watching FPS practice down in Charlestown SC. Good skills to have...in case you need them.
You made it look easy! :D