Torn between Black and DTR

[MM ftw]

hey guys! im new around these forums and just wanted to say hi to everyone out there! im lookin into getting my MM soon (after patiently waiting for 3+ years) and im torn between black and DTR. i really like them both, black because.. well its black. and a slick black MM would be awesome, especially if i got a badgeless grille from zach.

but i also really like the DTR. its way more rare than black, which definitely appeals to me. Also, its a really nice shade of red that bodes awesomely with the MM.

opinions? what do all you black and DTR owners think? :help:

-Dallas

[Egon Spengler]

Red is a slow color... adds alot of wind resistance and decreases power... go with BLACK 300A

[KillJoy]

Marauders are Black.

Grand Marquis are DTR.

;)

KillJoy

[MM ftw]

Red is a slow color... adds alot of wind resistance and decreases power... go with BLACK 300A

lol.

black 300A's were what i was looking at for awhile. only thing is i am avid about wanting a moonroof :( so id have to find a 300B that had one.. or an 04 that had one

[fastblackmerc]

Get the BLACK one. They are the best! Like the saying goes once you go BLACK.........

BLACK
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BLACK
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[Dr Caleb]

The obvious solution is get one of each.

[Egon Spengler]

Take the money you would spend for the red one and put it towards a supercharger etc for the BLACK ONE!

The obvious solution is get one of each.

[MM2004]

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll36/2004MM/LM%20Photo%20Shoot%202008/LMMeetMM2004.jpg

Mike

[Marauderjack]

I had a black car once.....1980 Buick......NEVER again!!!:shake:

They are beautiful......majestic.....ro mantic....etc......for about 10 minutes after you wash them!!:rolleyes:

Go fer da red one!!:beer:

Marauderjack:cool:

[sd8683]

Its a MM flip a coin, you can't go wrong!

[Ms. Denmark]

opinions? what do all you black and DTR owners think? :help:

-Dallas Don't know what they think ........but I think SILVER BIRCH!!!! OK, I sometimes secretly think black.;)

[fordman]

Just heard this today from my uncle today: Long story short, his best friend buys a DTR MM last month. With his job, he is in and out of the downtown area a lot. When he first got it, he was thrilled telling my uncle "Man you would not believe the thumbs up and waves I get with this car". Well one day he is creeping along looking for parking and a guy runs up to the rear door and tries to get in. He jumps out and says to the guy "What the F*** is your problem"! The guy steps back and says "What do you think I need a ride". So my uncles friend says back, "What do I look like a F****** cab"! Then it dawned on him, all the thumbs up and waves where from people thinking he was a cab!!!

A very large amount of cabs in Chicago are DTR (Maybe not exactly DTR but extremely close) Crown Vics. He was devestated. I haven't seen my uncle laugh this hard in years.

To answer your question in my opinion: Either way you win. Yes black is the sharpest color of them all with the tinted headlamps and all, but the other colors are so rear that makes you stand out even more. The easy answer, worry about finding a clean one. Something not beat to the ground and well taken care of because believe me the beat up ones are definitely out there!!. Have someone with car knowledge or even better a MM.net member if you know one come with you and check the car out. Thats what I did. I looked at 3 different possible MM's and the first 2 where SHOT. The 3rd was a charm. It took me almost 14 months to find my second one. It just happen to be black again. Good luck and welcome. Great group of members and definitely the right place to be with these cars.

[MM ftw]

To answer your question in my opinion: Either way you win. Yes black is the sharpest color of them all with the tinted headlamps and all, but the other colors are so rear that makes you stand out even more. The easy answer, worry about finding a clean one. Something not beat to the ground and well taken care of because believe me the beat up ones are definitely out there!!. Have someone with car knowledge or even better a MM.net member if you know one come with you and check the car out.

good stuff. thanks for watchin out.

[ImpalaSlayer]

black is sexy but sux keeping it clean, you will see almost anything. silver almost always looks clean :cool:

i like the dtr but i dont like how the whole grille is red

[jgc61sr2002]

Welcome aboard. :D

You can't go wrong with either color.

[Zack]

Buy a BLUE

[Stroszek]

I love them all but the black is the more sinister looking MM and probably most likely to urge left lane drivers to submit to the slow lane. Mine will be black.

[Bradley G]

I got the, "There is only one color to get the Marauder in!" So I skipped the blue and got the meanest color .

[justbob]

Theres other colors besides black?

[Jolly Roger]

You'll get lots of second looks, have to answer lots of questions, accept lots of praise, listen to old racecar stories, etc, etc, ect.
For those reasons you should NOT get a BLACK one LOL.:burnout:
Just myh 4.6 cts.

[offroadkarter]

I agree with mike, DTR :) Whoever says that DTR is the slowest is just wrong, everyone knows red is the fastest color, why do you think ferrari uses red on all of their cars? :D

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e185/offroadkarter/My%20Marauder/IMG_0186.jpg

[Aren Jay]

DTR is a the blood red Marauder. Black is the dirty Marauder.

DTR is almost never mistaken for a police car, except where the police use them.

Black is nice but lacks the contrast that a nice dark red purple burgandy depending on the light DTR presents.

DTR shines even on a grey day. Black is just black.

Add black wheels and a tint and black looks like a shadow of the DTR. Ironically pales in comparison.

Dark Toreador Red, the colour of the bull fighter after his encounter with the bull. Black is the colour of the bull after the bull fight. (dead).

Think about it this way. Woman in black or Little black riding hood.

Red evokes the emotion of sex, black doesn't.

In the headlights others can't see black at night, nor well on the road, plus it is common as dirt.

DTR on the otherhand is triple the popularity of Blue the second best colour. Yet represents the final mastery of the Marauder.

Black is confused with Crown Victorias, you never confuse a DTR with a Crown Vic. MGM are Toreador Red, a much brighter colour, and yet more ordinary.

and if you still can't decide.

DTR's are black at night.

[jonroe]

After long and careful consideration................. .........I'll have to go with.......................... .........DTR.

[justbob]

DTR, SB, and Blue make the best grand marquis at first site.

[TAKEDOWN]

black...if want rare, go "blue"!

[offroadkarter]

DTR, SB, and Blue make the best grand marquis at first site.


Blue and DTR are HARDLY on any other panther body besides marauder, dtr being less than blue on other panthers.


Now SB on the other hand :rolleyes:

Black MM's are for this :P

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3093000-3093999/3093480_1_full.jpg



So if you want to do that ^^^^ Buy a black marauder :D

[Mike]

Buy a BLUE

With out a doubt, get a......



BLUE :beer:

[sd8683]

Blue and DTR are HARDLY on any other panther body besides marauder, dtr being less than blue on other panthers.


Now SB on the other hand :rolleyes:

Black MM's are for this :P

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3093000-3093999/3093480_1_full.jpg



So if you want to do that ^^^^ Buy a black marauder :D

Yeah that's true I don't see to many DTR CV's but I see tons of DTR minivans!!! And Taurus's!!!

[offroadkarter]

Yeah that's true I don't see to many DTR CV's but I see tons of DTR minivans!!! And Taurus's!!!


I see tons of black, everythings :P


Those arent "DTR" those are just burgundy :)

[RedMerc04]

DTR.... No bias here :rolleyes:

[sd8683]

I see tons of black, everythings :P


Those arent "DTR" those are just burgundy :)


Burgandy, MAROON!!, DTR, red, its all the same to me! :)

[justbob]

We have plenty red and blue taxies in the big windy, probably cheap to buy (bad paint).:rofl:

[Stranger in the Black Sedan]

The DTR color looks like a maroon old man grand marquis. Black, hands down.

[sd8683]

IMO you can't get any better than a sparkling "clean" black MM but that being said the silver birch have grown on me, I wish I bought one instead of the black, if the right one comes up I might just have to pull the trigger!

[Kennyrauder]

Everything looks better on the other side of the fence...doesn't matter what color your Marauder is ... just be proud that you have one. By the sound of it We have a rare and wonderful car that will only appreciate in time. I'll venture to guess that we have less than 9000 left to care for. I love my 03 BLACK Marauder. Best regards to all... Kennyrauder.

[freakstatus]

What color do you think of when you hear the word "Marauder"?

There you go...See, you knew it all along.:cool:

[J D]

Just heard this today from my uncle today: Long story short, his best friend buys a DTR MM last month. With his job, he is in and out of the downtown area a lot. When he first got it, he was thrilled telling my uncle "Man you would not believe the thumbs up and waves I get with this car". Well one day he is creeping along looking for parking and a guy runs up to the rear door and tries to get in. He jumps out and says to the guy "What the F*** is your problem"! The guy steps back and says "What do you think I need a ride". So my uncles friend says back, "What do I look like a F****** cab"! Then it dawned on him, all the thumbs up and waves where from people thinking he was a cab!!!

A very large amount of cabs in Chicago are DTR (Maybe not exactly DTR but extremely close) Crown Vics. He was devastated. I haven't seen my uncle laugh this hard in years.

To answer your question in my opinion: Either way you win. Yes black is the sharpest color of them all with the tinted headlamps and all, but the other colors are so rear that makes you stand out even more. The easy answer, worry about finding a clean one. Something not beat to the ground and well taken care of because believe me the beat up ones are definitely out there!!. Have someone with car knowledge or even better a MM.net member if you know one come with you and check the car out. Thats what I did. I looked at 3 different possible MM's and the first 2 where SHOT. The 3rd was a charm. It took me almost 14 months to find my second one. It just happen to be black again. Good luck and welcome. Great group of members and definitely the right place to be with these cars.

Indeed, couldn't have said it better myself. and come on the headlight tints are what color?

[High-C]

The DTR color looks like a maroon old man grand marquis. Black, hands down.

I take offense to that... You can't go wrong with any Marauder, period. But if I was in the market for one right now, I would have to go BLUE because of the rarity and the way that the blue owners stick together. Good luck either way! :beer:

[offroadkarter]

IMO you can't get any better than a sparkling "clean" black MM


But then once it starts to get dirty it looks like crap :P Nobody here can deny that black cars are a pain in the butt to keep clean.




Sides, black MM's had the paint problems, i dont believe anyone had paint problems with DTR's :D

[Jolly Roger]

What color do you think of when you hear the word "Marauder"?

There you go...See, you knew it all along.:cool:

What^^^^^ said.:cool4:

[imorb1994]

Yeah that's true I don't see to many DTR CV's but I see tons of DTR minivans!!! And Taurus's!!!
And rangers and F series pickups

[Aren Jay]

Wow I have never seen a black minivan, taurus, ranger or F Series pickup.

[offroadkarter]

Wow I have never seen a black minivan, taurus, ranger or F Series pickup.


You have never seen a black F150, Minivan, Taurus, Ranger? Are you kidding :rolleyes:

Heres my frineds 98 black ranger

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a112/schatten789/Truck/IM001420.jpg


Here is a Black F150

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/mytightride/blackF150crewbig.jpg

Black Mini Van

http://www.virginiausedcardealers.com/wadesmotors/A20449A.jpg

Black Taurus

http://www.fandtmotors.com/imx/02%20taurus%20black.jpg


I have never seen any DTR Rangers or F series pickups. Unless its custom painted.

[imorb1994]

You have never seen a black F150, Minivan, Taurus, Ranger? Are you kidding :rolleyes:
I have never seen any DTR Rangers or F series pickups. Unless its custom painted.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2008/ford/f_350/colors/dark_toreador_red_clearcoat.ht ml
http://www.automotive.com/2006/102/ford/f-150/flareside-short-bed-regular-cab-pickup/697/photos/colors/dark-toreador-red-clearcoat-metallic.html
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=247078820&dealer_id=277080&car_year=2005&model=F250&num_records=25&systime=&make3=&make2=FORD&sfy=true&start_year=1999&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&color3=&model2=F350&color2=RED&search_lang=en&make=FORD&keywords_display=&color=BURGUNDY&page_location=findacar%3A%3Ais psearchform&min_price=&fsb=b&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=81601&advanced=y&end_year=2005&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=951
http://sheehyfordmarlowheights.com/Pages/v2/Virtual2/UsedDetails.aspx?c=717&k=12&p=3&l=Marlow%20Heights,%20MD&v=1063292&d=106
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=245943386&dealer_id=73725&car_year=2007&make_desc=Ford&search_type=used&distance=100&model_desc=Ranger&origuri=%2Ffind%2Fused-Ford-Ranger-cars-for-sale-Pittsburgh-15222.jsp&address=15222&cardist=52
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=240821629&dealer_id=1111928&car_year=2004&model=F250&num_records=25&systime=&make3=&make2=FORD&sfy=true&start_year=1999&keywordsfyc=__ZGFyayB0b3JlYWRv ciByZWQ,__&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=100097114107032116 111114101097100111114032114101 100&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&color3=&model2=F350&color2=RED&search_lang=en&make=FORD&keywords_display=dark+toreador +red&color=BURGUNDY&page_location=findacar%3A%3Ais psearchform&min_price=&fsb=b&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=81601&advanced=y&end_year=2005&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=1741&rdpage=thumb

Cant forget this one
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=240586256&dealer_id=91344&car_year=2006&model=FREESTAR&num_records=25&systime=&make3=&make2=FORD&sfy=true&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=__RGFyayBUb3JlYWRv ciBSZWQg__&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=068097114107032084 111114101097100111114032082101 100032&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&model2=WINDST&search_lang=en&make=FORD&keywords_display=Dark+Toreador +Red+&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Ais psearchform&min_price=&fsb=b&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=81601&advanced=y&end_year=2009&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=1248&rdpage=thumb

[oldekid]

Black is the lack of all colors. I rest my case.

:beer:

[Ms. Denmark]

We all have to agree ,if we're honest with ourselves, that the quintessential Marauder is definately Black. The concept for the car was clearly the Bad Boy image. When I ordered my car, I was in a more practical mood and didn't want the work of keeping a beautiful black car ,that would surely be noticed by everybody, shiney and clean. I went for the "sleeper" and chose Silver Birch. It almost always looks clean (especially from a distance). It has an almost elegant look in certain light. But no one is very intimidated. You won't get the props in any other color except black.(IMO) That means missing out on a bit of the Marauder experience and sometimes I wish I had ordered Black. Coming back to my senses, I know I choose the right color for me. Black cars need to be owned by those who can commit to their upkeep.( And there are some very commited owners on this site) I'll just enjoy looking.;)

[offroadkarter]

Black is the lack of all colors. I rest my case.

:beer:


thank you! :)

[sd8683]

But then once it starts to get dirty it looks like crap :P Nobody here can deny that black cars are a pain in the butt to keep clean.





Sides, black MM's had the paint problems, i dont believe anyone had paint problems with DTR's :D

Yeah its a pain to keep clean but that's why I wash it every other day! It is very rare that my car is dirty.

And yeah there isn't really any paint problems with the DTR except.....The color:)

[offroadkarter]

Yeah its a pain to keep clean but that's why I wash it every other day! It is very rare that my car is dirty.

And yeah there isn't really any paint problems with the DTR except.....The color:)


hey atleast our color isnt an "absence of" :P


I know something that would make all the black mm owners feel super confident that they are the "superior" color but im not gonna say it, atleast not yet :D

[Iowa Rick]

Buy either a Black or DTR and then have it painted 2 tone with the other color. Then you don't have to choose. Rick

[Aren Jay]

I like the Marauder rainbow stripe idea. Black DTR SB and DBP in stripes, 1 inch wide.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/6/9/8/3/MarauderRainbow.JPG

[Peter]

Go with Dark Pearl Blue!!!

[SC Cheesehead]

I take offense to that... You can't go wrong with any Marauder, period. But if I was in the market for one right now, I would have to go BLUE because of the rarity and the way that the blue owners stick together. Good luck either way! :beer:
Got that right. We got our own club, our own beer, our own flashlights, and our own mascot.

Now where'd that rascal go....."here Zack, come on buddy, here Zack!";)

[SC Cheesehead]

I like the Marauder rainbow stripe idea. Black DTR SB and DBP in stripes, 1 inch wide.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/6/9/8/3/MarauderRainbow.JPG

Hmmmm, looks familiar.

[Stranger in the Black Sedan]

Everything looks better on the other side of the fence...doesn't matter what color your Marauder is

But see it doesn't look better on the other side! That's how you know you're really onto something. Before I bought an MM, I had seen DTR MM's and I thought they were just grand marquis' for driving to Florida with...

[tjg442]

Red is an 04 color !!! No one has to ask me what year it is.......

[Dragcity]

All I ever hear is "I thought they only made black ones"

Our State Troopers use Dark Blue on their CV's. Silver cars, there's a million of 'em.

I was up between a SB and DTR. I drove them both and could have gone either way. The DTR ran better, much better. So I chose DTR.

Let the car tell you what color to get. All of them have their own good qualities.

So there you have it, your choice...

And just so you know, Dark Pearl Blue were only produced in 2003 and Dark Toreador Red was only produced in 2004. Silver Birch and Black were produced in 2003 & 2004.

[Bluerauder]

We all have to agree ,if we're honest with ourselves, that the quintessential Marauder is definately Black. The concept for the car was clearly the Bad Boy image.

To be honest, the Black MM is what got me interested initially. I wanted one in that "Sinister Black". When the time came and all of the stars and planets aligned, I couldn't find a Black MM locally; but was told about a Blue MM over in Fairfax, VA. Out of curiosity, the wife and I went just to take a look. Sure enough, it was Dark Blue Pearl and beautiful and at a good price. Absolutely no regrets here. Even in a Blue MM, I have maintained my "bad boy image". :P


( And there are some very commited owners on this site) ;)

And at least a couple who should be committed. :rofl:

[Marauder2005]

"You can get it in any color, as long as its black"

Had both, LOVED the black, but the paint was looked like crap the day it came from

Ford. Early 300a's had a thin coat of clear, that scratches really easy.

Have a DTR now, very sharp. It seems to change color in different light.

[offroadkarter]

Have a DTR now, very sharp. It seems to change color in different light.

Really? Your sig image says otherwise :P

Go for the DTR
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e185/offroadkarter/Car%20show%209%2010%2008/IMG_0545-1.jpg

[J D]

humm you know you could always go the magindat route. Bet a DTR then have the grille bars, hood, roof w/pillars, and trunk lid painted black. Some one with photo shop skill should alter up offroad's picture to see what it might look like.

[Spectragod]

I have a black LX Sport and a DTR MM, I love black, but it is hard to keep nice all the time. The DTR is just a different color, since it's not a DD, it is spotless most all the time. I was looking for a SB when I found a perfect and well kept DTR. Let the car make the decision for you as to it's color.