View Full Version : Will the HPP wheels fit on the Marauder?
tta197
08-28-2003, 08:24 PM
Greetings to all, I'm interested in buying an '04 Marauder next spring. But the one thing that bugs me about the Marauder is the wheels. I just don't like them, will the hpp wheels found on the Grand Marquis/ Crown Vic fit. If so does anyone have pictures of a Marauder with the hpp wheels? Thanks.
SergntMac
08-28-2003, 08:36 PM
No.
Stephen Soulsby
08-28-2003, 08:36 PM
As long as they're from a 2003 or newer they'll fit.
RCSignals
08-28-2003, 08:39 PM
Only from a 2003, BUT they are only 16" wheels
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The 17" CVLXSport Wheels from a 2003 will also fit.
Wes Chain of Innovative Interceptors had a new set of 5 for sale a short time ago.
You will run into problems with over all diameter probably
You buy the car, Ill buy the wheels off of it. Send me a PM if youre interested.
DetGeno
08-28-2003, 10:31 PM
tta 197 check out this site:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=357&perpage=15&highlight=winter%20tires&pagenumber=2
RCSignals
08-28-2003, 10:48 PM
From that thread, this explains very well why you want 2003 - 2004 wheels
Originally posted by Brian
Echoing what FFracer mentioned about the "backspace" of the wheel...
The 2003 suspension re-design resulted in a fairly significant re-design of wheel offset. A quick browse of MVMA specifications for Grand Marquis from 2002 back into the late 1980s shows wheel offsets between 2.4mm and 11mm, depending on the wheel. Steel wheel is typically 11mm. Al wheels for GM in that timeframe are typically between 2.4mm and 8mm. Offset being defined as the lateral distance from the centerline of the wheel to the mounting flange surface, with a postiive number meaning the flange is outboard of the centerline of the wheel. These relatively small offsets result in the "deep dish" appearance of the earlier CV/GM wheels.
The 2003 MM wheel offset is 50MM.
All 2003 CV/GM wheel (steel and AL) are 54mm.
Significantly less "deep dish", more towards "flush face" appearance.
Taking an average pre-2003 CV/GM AL wheel offset at approximately 5mm, the difference to a MM offset is 50 - 5 = 45mm --> about 1-3/4 inches off of the OEM MM offset! That is how much the tire tread center will be off if you bolt a pre-2003 CV/GM wheel on your 2003 MM. In my view, that could be a pretty significant change, relative to clearances to fender well lips, handling parameters (scrub radius changes for the front wheels - affects steering, returnability, ...), stone pecking of body paint, etc.
I would think that one would want to keep the offset as close to the OEM wheel as you can for a variety of reasons.
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