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JAYSILVER04
08-12-2008, 04:58 PM
I just had my 2 04's parked nose to nose and noticed that the color is slightly different between the two. My 73k mile MM was built in December and my 11K mile MM was built in January. The "older" one looks darker than the "newer" one. Niether car has ever had any paint work so I'm confused.:confused: Any thoughts?

Bluerauder
08-12-2008, 05:20 PM
I just had my 2 04's parked nose to nose and noticed that the color is slightly different between the two. My 73k mile MM was built in December and my 11K mile MM was built in January. The "older" one looks darker than the "newer" one. Niether car has ever had any paint work so I'm confused.:confused: Any thoughts?

Just sounds like normal weathering to me. I suspect that the 73K car has had much more exposure to the elements than the 11K car. More sun, more rain, more dirt and grime will affect the look and shade of the paint.

BTW -- I am assuming that both of them were washed and waxed when you did this eyeball comparison. ;)

JAYSILVER04
08-12-2008, 07:40 PM
Just sounds like normal weathering to me. I suspect that the 73K car has had much more exposure to the elements than the 11K car. More sun, more rain, more dirt and grime will affect the look and shade of the paint.

BTW -- I am assuming that both of them were washed and waxed when you did this eyeball comparison. ;)

Nope! both were equally dirty! I thought maybe a different batch of paint was used at the factory when the cars were built. Slightly different pigmentation of the paint possibly??

03blackvegas
08-12-2008, 08:51 PM
There is variations in colors due to many factors, such as location, time frame, what color was in the vat before, etc. The ony way to have NEAR perfect color on all cars is to paint them all one after another with the same batch of paint. If you look up a paint code on a color mixing computer, you will almost always see many variants of the original formula. This is due to those variables.

Bluerauder
08-13-2008, 04:02 AM
Nope! both were equally dirty!
Shame on you. ;) If they were both dirty, how can you do a color comparison? Your baseline is flawed. :P

Dragcity
08-13-2008, 06:19 AM
I went to Sherwin Williams Automotive Finishes to see about some DTR paint and he had 7, yes seven shades of DTR. One of which matched EXACTLY to mine. He said it is very common today to have many shades of the same color. Just the way it is.

JAYSILVER04
08-13-2008, 06:35 AM
Shame on you. ;) If they were both dirty, how can you do a color comparison? Your baseline is flawed. :P

It is EXTREMELY abvious that they are slightly different colors. The problem is, I like the shade of the 73k mile one better than the newer one! Guess I will have to live with it!!

magindat
08-13-2008, 06:37 AM
Factory "black" ain't black.

When I painted mine, I looked up the code and mixed a batch of factory black. The recipe per Dupont inlcuded some blue, brown and even yellow. I brought it out to my painter buddy in the booth and he started sprayin. I thought he was gonna KILL me! He goes "I said BLACK!" So, to prove his point he sent me back to the mxiing room and I replaced every color called for in the recipe with black. He sprayed that out next to the factory so-called black and the factory 'black' looked horribly BROWN!!! Needless to say, we sprayed it out in BLACK!!!!

So, factory "black" ain't really black and the different pigments in it will age the color differently in different environments.

JAYSILVER04
08-13-2008, 06:44 AM
Factory "black" ain't black.

So, factory "black" ain't really black and the different pigments in it will age the color differently in different environments.

That makes sense considering my 73k mile one spent the first year and a half of its life in Connecticut and the last 3 in Delaware.

Pops
08-13-2008, 06:47 AM
Factory "black" ain't black.

When I painted mine, I looked up the code and mixed a batch of factory black. The recipe per Dupont inlcuded some blue, brown and even yellow. I brought it out to my painter buddy in the booth and he started sprayin. I thought he was gonna KILL me! He goes "I said BLACK!" So, to prove his point he sent me back to the mxiing room and I replaced every color called for in the recipe with black. He sprayed that out next to the factory so-called black and the factory 'black' looked horribly BROWN!!! Needless to say, we sprayed it out in BLACK!!!!

So, factory "black" ain't really black and the different pigments in it will age the color differently in different environments.

This was a good lesson Rich! After years of being in the body shop business seeing this thread brought back all of the horror of paint matching. Good talk here and be kind to the painter cause it is not easy to match the colors! ;)

Blackmobile
08-13-2008, 06:56 AM
Factory "black" ain't black.

When I painted mine, I looked up the code and mixed a batch of factory black. The recipe per Dupont inlcuded some blue, brown and even yellow. I brought it out to my painter buddy in the booth and he started sprayin. I thought he was gonna KILL me! He goes "I said BLACK!" So, to prove his point he sent me back to the mxiing room and I replaced every color called for in the recipe with black. He sprayed that out next to the factory so-called black and the factory 'black' looked horribly BROWN!!! Needless to say, we sprayed it out in BLACK!!!!

So, factory "black" ain't really black and the different pigments in it will age the color differently in different environments.

In printing there are 2 different blacks. There is pure Black, and then there is 4 color black...
Cyan (Blue)
Magenta (red)
yellow
and pure black.

the 4 color Black is the deepest in hue, but also takes more to cure.

Just my :twocents:.