All 4 Tires Same Size

[HotRodMercury]

Hay guys, it me again your worst enemie lol,

ok i tought it would be fun to do a nice burn out today,
in broad daylight at homedepot, for no reason and doing that,

i decided to check the back tiers thay look ok for now,
so i was thinking to replace them later on with the same
size as the ones in the front, would it ride any diffrent
or look kinda goofy, any pics of a marauder with same size,
please post pics of them.

thanks godbless

[sd8683]

When I first got my car all 4 tires were
Stock front tire size, it actually drove really smooth, but it did look kinda goofy, I thought so anyway, I might have some pics around, I'll try and get a couple up for you tomorrow.

[HotRodMercury]

When I first got my car all 4 tires were
Stock front tire size, it actually drove really smooth, but it did look kinda goofy, I thought so anyway, I might have some pics around, I'll try and get a couple up for you tomorrow.

thanks god bless you...,

I also tought it would look kinda funny,

[blackhueys]

correct me if I am wrong but wont the abs think somethings wrong?

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Does anyone know if the car can be corrected using a tuner, to have all the tires be the same size? And then be able to revert to the stock taller rears when needed?

[HotRodMercury]

Does anyone know if the car can be corrected using a tuner, to have all the tires be the same size? And then be able to revert to the stock taller rears when needed?
Good question?, I dont think sc, had a problem if im not mistaken?

[rayjay]

If your car is a 03 300A without TC. you can run the same size tires at all four corners.

[Rocknthehawk]

Dave runs all 4 tires the same size. There's pics in the new england sound off thread, i think page 18 or something. Also if you search black rims you'll probably find it.

[tjl006]

I bought my car with all four tire sizes the same. I think it looks fine, but i think it looks better with the bigger wheels in the back.

[SC Cheesehead]

I bought my car with all four tire sizes the same. I think it looks fine, but i think it looks better with the bigger wheels in the back.

I ran 245/18's on all for corners for over a year, car handled well, and I liked the looks as well. Also allowed me to rotate tires, so tire wear/mileage improved quite a bit.

I don't think you can "tune" out the T/C issue, but I just got used to punching the T/C button off every time I started up the car, so no problem. No problems with the ABS either, so if you want to run the same size in all four corners, have at it.

IMO, I think the 845's look better than 835's all the way around due to the size of the wheel wells.

[Krytin]

This is what it looks like w/front and rear lowered on 255 45 Nitto Redlines (no longer available).

[teamrope]

correct me if I am wrong but wont the abs think somethings wrong?

The only thing that it will affect is traction control.

[DOOM]

Does you car have a traction control switch?

[Black_Noise]

235's all around
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x180/black300a/SVT%20meet/IMG_0156.jpg

[HotRodMercury]

Does you car have a traction control switch?
Yeah its a 04,
I turn' it off when no one isnt looking lol,
like what ever thats suppost to mean.

[HotRodMercury]

235's all around
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x180/black300a/SVT%20meet/IMG_0156.jpg
that aculy dont look bad,
kinda better then factory set up, car look more low,
it evan gives it that sleek look,

heck if im not mistaken save's you money, save's you more at the pump
wow this set up is great lol,

thanks guys god bless.

[HotRodMercury]

If your car is a 03 300A without TC. you can run the same size tires at all four corners.
I dont mind the Tc, problem i'll just leave it on
the car is almost 500000000
pounds all stock so it should be ok.

[rayjay]

I dont mind the Tc, problem i'll just leave it on
the car is almost 500000000
pounds all stock so it should be ok.

Huh? :confused: I give up. :banghead: please tell me you're pulling my leg. If not please REFRAIN from reproducing.

[Black_Noise]

that aculy dont look bad,
kinda better then factory set up, car looks more low,
it even gives it that sleek look,




thats what i think too

[DOOM]

Huh? :confused: I give up. :banghead: please tell you're pulling my leg. If not please REFRAIN from reproducing.

:lol: :laugh: :rofl:

[RoyLPita]

Dude, I ran 225/60-18s all around........once. You will have to turn off the traction control or else you'll overheat the rear brakes and warp the rotors. For a while, I disconnected one of the rear ABS sensors but had 3 lights illuminate on the dash and that's 2 too many.

[HotRodMercury]

Dude, I ran 225/60-18s all around........once. You will have to turn off the traction control or else you'll overheat the rear brakes and warp the rotors. For a while, I disconnected one of the rear ABS sensors but had 3 lights illuminate on the dash and that's 2 too many.
so your telling me every time i jump in the car I gota turn off,
the tac.?

[Bigdogjim]

On a 300A car ("03) only you can run same size on all e corners. I have for over 3 years. I notice handling inprovements in the rain with the front end:)

I have black mustang wheels (18X8) also.

[HotRodMercury]

On a 300A car ("03) only you can run same size on all e corners. I have for over 3 years. I notice handling inprovements in the rain with the front end:)

I have black mustang wheels (18X8) also.
yeah it should handle more like a sports car,
rather then the factory drag set up lol I
guess if I keep the car looking to spend around $300 for the rear tiers,
found them from a place in melburn fl, thats were I got a set on the way
back home from dealer ship were I picked up the marauder,

dealer said for the price I got the car for not much thay can
do, Better know as STEALER Ships freekin crooks,:mad2:
couldent evan trow in a set of tiers.

[Bigdogjim]

yeah it should handle more like a sports car,
rather then the factory drag set up lol I
guess if I keep the car looking to spend around $300 for the rear tiers,
found them from a place in melburn fl, thats were I got a set on the way
back home from dealer ship were I picked up the marauder,

dealer said for the price I got the car for not much thay can
do, Better know as STEALER Ships freekin crooks,:mad2:
couldent evan trow in a set of tiers.

First off did you check with the Tire Rack click the box on the home page.

Second I have Z&M cantrol arms and sway bars in place that alone changed everything:)

Car feels great in the turns :up:

[rayjay]

First off did you check with the Tire Rack click the box on the home page.

Second I have Z&M cantrol arms and sway bars in place that alone changed everything:)

Car feels great in the turns :up:

You're gonna get a headache...

[SC Cheesehead]

so your telling me every time i jump in the car I gota turn off,
the tac.?

Yup, but it's no big deal, you get used to it after a while.

You can opt to leave the switch on, but you'll have problems with the car (see RoyLPita's message), not to mention performance issues at the worst possible times (like trying to accelerate on highway merge ramps, or going up hills.....)

Just plan on punching off the T/C button whenever you start up the car and life will be good.:)

[Bluerauder]

so your telling me every time i jump in the car I gota turn off,
the tac.?
For you ... I would suggest a 3-M sticky note on the dashboard just as a reminder. :rolleyes:

[HotRodMercury]

For you ... I would suggest a 3-M sticky note on the dashboard just as a reminder. :rolleyes:
You mean like the one you have,
on your bathroom mirror, that says your first and last name, and date of birth?

[HotRodMercury]

First off did you check with the Tire Rack click the box on the home page.

Second I have Z&M cantrol arms and sway bars in place that alone changed everything:)

Car feels great in the turns :up:
Im usaly gettin on it when im going straight,
usaly i slow down a bit when it comes to cornering, but thanks...

[liquid]

For those of you running same-size-all-around, did you try to match the rear 28.5" OD so that the speedo would be unaffected?

[Krytin]

No - i had the tune adjusted for the new revs per mile for the shorter tires.

[n00bkiller944]

Huh? :confused: I give up. :banghead: please tell me you're pulling my leg. If not please REFRAIN from reproducing.

LMAO!!! :lol::lol:

[Vortech347]

So having the same size tires height wise on all 4 will not mess with the ABS?

[offroadkarter]

So having the same size tires height wise on all 4 will not mess with the ABS?


You have T/C, so it wont work with you.



IMO having the front tires on all 4 looks funny, to narrow in the rear.

[my_rodder]

I run fronts all the way around, But I have an 300a so TC is not an issue.

[69marquis conv]

This is what it looks like w/front and rear lowered on 255 45 Nitto Redlines (no longer available).
WOW!!-those redwalls will take you back! I kinda like them on a black MM!

[Vortech347]

I don't really use the traction control, anyway to disable it? We did that in my wife's 01 with a tune.

[imorb1994]

I don't really use the traction control, anyway to disable it? We did that in my wife's 01 with a tune.
it is possible to disable it on the MM aslo via the tuner

[RoyLPita]

For those of you running same-size-all-around, did you try to match the rear 28.5" OD so that the speedo would be unaffected?

The speedo is calibrated for the rear sized tires. If you put the rear sized ones on the front, the speedo will not be affected. The ABS might come on at highway speeds and the T/C would have to be turned off on ones equipped.

[liquid]

The speedo is calibrated for the rear sized tires. If you put the rear sized ones on the front, the speedo will not be affected. The ABS might come on at highway speeds and the T/C would have to be turned off on ones equipped.

"might" come on? that doesn't inspire confidence.... will keep trying to match 27.2 front and 28.5 rear. Does mm.net have an emoticon for spending hours online at tirerack.com? :o

[fastblackmerc]

The speedo is calibrated for the rear sized tires. If you put the rear sized ones on the front, the speedo will not be affected. The ABS might come on at highway speeds and the T/C would have to be turned off on ones equipped.

Why would the ABS come on? I thought ABS was for braking?

[Krytin]

When you change the program for the different size it works perfectly for ABS - no problems.
If you have TC it will have to be turned off via switch or program.

[Krytin]

WOW!!-those redwalls will take you back! I kinda like them on a black MM!

Thank you!
I do like them very much - not just for the looks but they handle very well especially in the rain!
Still a little pissed that they got discontinued.

[liquid]

When you change the program for the different size it works perfectly for ABS - no problems.
If you have TC it will have to be turned off via switch or program.

Well TC is not an issue on my 03 300A. And unless someone wants to donate a tuner, I cannot change the program. So I am still wondering if having 28.5" tires on the front is really going to screw up my ABS...:confused:

[red]

"might" come on? that doesn't inspire confidence.... will keep trying to match 27.2 front and 28.5 rear. Does mm.net have an emoticon for spending hours online at tirerack.com? :o
Have you tried looking here (https://www.mymarauder.com/wiki/index.php?title=Tires) (<-- click the link) for information?

[red]

When you change the program for the different size it works perfectly for ABS - no problems.
This is incorrect. The ABS module receives its information from the encoders (sensors) and is calibrated to a number of revolutions / tics for front and rear encoders. When the difference in readings exceeds a TBD threshold, the ABS system is effected, errors are thrown, and the system is disabled. Keep in mind, you are only adjusting the rear tire size in the computer, which effects the speedo. Ask Rich (magindat) about his ABS problems.

[red]

it is possible to disable it on the MM aslo via the tuner
You cannot disable the traction control via a handheld tuner. This has to be done in the tune itself, for example, using SCT's Advantage III. In Advantage III, it's a scalar located under the "Axle" section called "Traction Control Switch", which you set to 0 to disable.

[liquid]

Have you tried looking here (https://www.mymarauder.com/wiki/index.php?title=Tires) (<-- click the link) for information?

Yes, thank you for that site, however I am currently looking at winter tires for a 17" rim.

I may have found some SUV/Light Truck winter tires that have comparable OD and rev/mi.

[Krytin]

This is incorrect. The ABS module receives its information from the encoders (sensors) and is calibrated to a number of revolutions / tics for front and rear encoders. When the difference in readings exceeds a TBD threshold, the ABS system is effected, errors are thrown, and the system is disabled. Keep in mind, you are only adjusting the rear tire size in the computer, which effects the speedo. Ask Rich (magindat) about his ABS problems.

OK - I'm running the same size tires front and back and the ABS works fine - no differential/threshold issues here. No codes thrown, the system is NOT disabled. There is no traction control on an "03 300A

[red]

When you change the program for the different size it works perfectly for ABS - no problems.


This is incorrect. The ABS module receives its information from the encoders (sensors) and is calibrated to a number of revolutions / tics for front and rear encoders. When the difference in readings exceeds a TBD threshold, the ABS system is effected, errors are thrown, and the system is disabled. Keep in mind, you are only adjusting the rear tire size in the computer, which effects the speedo. Ask Rich (magindat) about his ABS problems.


OK - I'm running the same size tires front and back and the ABS works fine - no differential/threshold issues here. No codes thrown, the system is NOT disabled. There is no traction control on an "03 300A

Understood. That's because the resulting values read from the encoders are within the threshold for the ABS system, as has been established in the past. The point is that the statement "when you change the program for the different size it works perfectly for ABS" is incorrect. Same-sized tires work because they're within the ABS system's threshold; it has nothing to do with changing the tune.

[red]

Yes, thank you for that site, however I am currently looking at winter tires for a 17" rim.
From what I can tell, you didn't state that in this thread, so I didn't know. Sorry, I don't have any information on winter tires.

[Vortech347]

WELL GET SOME!!!

Kidding.. Its a site with great references.

[red]

WELL GET SOME!!!
Will do, as soon as we get our next snow... :sunshine: