Was sent wrong tires

[Shora]

As with most users, I needed to replace the OE rear tires every 8-10K miles so I switched the rears to the Nittos 420.

So I have been running the OE front BFG KDWS on the front and the Nittos on the back. I was very happy with this set up and the car drove like a champ.

Problem is I ordered a new set of BFG KDWS for the front and they sent me the KDW2. They are the same size as the front KDWS (235-50).

My question is, do you guys think that I should send them back or install them instead? I know that mixing thread patterns is bad and this tire has a real odd pattern (and so do the Nittos).

What are your opinions?

Send back or use them with the Nittos?

[KillJoy]

I would keep them. The Tread looks cooler :D

KillJoy

[MM2004]

As with most users, I needed to replace the OE rear tires every 8-10K miles so I switched the rears to the Nittos 420.

So I have been running the OE front BFG KDWS on the front and the Nittos on the back. I was very happy with this set up and the car drove like a champ.

Problem is I ordered a new set of BFG KDWS for the front and they sent me the KDW2. They are the same size as the front KDWS (235-50).

My question is, do you guys think that I should send them back or install them instead? I know that mixing thread patterns is bad and this tire has a real odd pattern (and so do the Nittos).

What are your opinions?

Send back or use them with the Nittos?

Send them back. The place of purchase cannot correct their errors if they remain uninformed.

Mike.

[Blk Mamba]

Tell them about their mistake, and offer to keep them, it may just be a substitution.

[Shora]

I would keep them. The Tread looks cooler :D

KillJoy


Good choice of words. "Cool" is the perfect term for how this thread looks. However, go you think that they will be a "safe" tire to use with the Nitto 420?

I don't want the car to become a danger on the road.

[KillJoy]

Good choice of words. "Cool" is the perfect term for how this thread looks. However, go you think that they will be a "safe" tire to use with the Nitto 420?

I don't want the car to become a danger on the road.


Oh yeah!

They are a "better" tire than the KDWS'. That MIGHT be the reason for the substitution.....

;)

KillJoy

[Shora]

Send them back. The place of purchase cannot correct their errors if they remain uninformed.

Mike.

I am sure that they will probably take them back without too much of a hassle. The real problem (or question) that I have is maybe I "should" run them?

Do you guys think that running these two very odd patterns is a benefit or foolish?

[sd8683]

Sell them if you don't want them, did you pay for KDW's or KDW2's, if you paid for the regular kdw's I'd sell them, they are worth more than the oem's and just buy another set

[Shora]

Oh yeah!

They are a "better" tire than the KDWS'. That MIGHT be the reason for the substitution.....

;)

KillJoy


First, I thank you for taking the time to give me your advice. :beer:

I don't mean to be a pain, but while I understand that they are a better tire than the KDWS, I want to know if they are still better when mixed with Nittos in the rear.

It's the combination that has me worried.

[KillJoy]

Mixed tires are ALWAYS a PITA.....

The 2's and the 420's WILL NOT be an issue.

:up:

KillJoy

[Zack]

Combining two different tread designs is not dangerous :rolleyes:

[Shora]

Combining two different tread designs is not dangerous :rolleyes:


Why don't I believe you?;)

Honestly, I know that the opposite of what you said true but I have been using the Nittos with the KDWS in the front with great results. I would have loved to use the Nittos in the front too but they don't make them.

[KillJoy]

Combining two different tread designs is not dangerous :rolleyes:

WRONG!

Different Tire Tread / Material act different in the same condition.

Some hydroplane different.

Some do not grip at speed as others.

Blah blah blah...

The tires listed will be FINE working together.

:up:

KillJoy

[Zack]

If combining treads was in fact dangerous, everyone in the ghetto would be dead.

[Shora]

Mixed tires are ALWAYS a PITA.....

The 2's and the 420's WILL NOT be an issue.

:up:

KillJoy


Would you still prefer them with the Nittos more then the KDWS. I did some research and it looks like I will be the first and only to run this setup. Usually, it's not a good sign when "I" am the first to do something.

[KillJoy]

I have Nitto 555's all around.

I am running a 295/45/18 on the stock rear tires.

DARE to be different!

;)

KillJoy

[Shora]

If combining treads was in fact dangerous, everyone in the ghetto would be dead.

They don't do serious driving imo. They just roll at low speed (with the homies).

I take this car on long trips and I take family members with me. I need it as safe as possible.

[Shora]

I have Nitto 555's all around.

I am running a 295/45/18 on the stock rear tires.

DARE to be different!

;)

KillJoy


You, Sir, have balls of steel.

I would buy you those rubber nuts (but in chrome) if it didn't look so tacky.

[KillJoy]

They don't do serious driving imo. They just roll at low speed (with the homies).

I take this car on long trips and I take family members with me. I need it as safe as possible.


Do not be worried.

BOTH tires are good stuffs ;)

:D

KillJoy

[Shora]

Do not be worried.

BOTH tires are good stuffs ;)

:D

KillJoy


You seem very confident.

I may just install them.

I need to make my decision by tomorrow morning where I either take them for installation or call for call tags so they be picked up.

[KillJoy]

You seem very confident.

Unless I may just install them.

I need to make my decision by tomorrow morning where I either take them for installation or call for call tags so they be picked up.

Put your Big Girl Under-Roos on and just DO IT!

MANY here run mixed tire combinations.

Many here will agree that the KDWS2's are "better" than the KWDS'.

What are you wainting for?

:dunno:

KillJoy

[Blk Mamba]

I think the rule is don't mix tread patterns side to side, but front to back is okay. I can't think of a time that under reasonable conditions, the mix you describe would not be ideal.

[CRUZTAKER]

I thought the 2's were discontinued quite some time ago. :confused::confused::confused:

I wonder where they found these, and if indeed supply is short...if anyone here NEEDS them as spares. :dunno:

[Cobra25]

The stock KDWS has a Deepper thread and will last longer. The KDW2 while looking really cool once they get half way down won't grip as well as the KDWS. The KDW2 has a softer ride . Me and Ghost03 and a few others have tryed it and learned by experence. It your worried about the same thread design stick too the Nitto's all the way around.

[Shora]

The stock KDWS has a Deepper thread and will last longer. The KDW2 while looking really cool once they get half way down won't grip as well as the KDWS. The KDW2 has a softer ride . Me and Ghost03 and a few others have tryed it and learned by experence. It your worried about the same thread design stick too the Nitto's all the way around.

Good advise.

You have tried both and prefer the KDWS?

Also, I cannot put the nittos all the way around because they are the Nitto 420. Smallest they come in is 255/55 which I think is way too big for the front.

[Shora]

Sell them if you don't want them, did you pay for KDW's or KDW2's, if you paid for the regular kdw's I'd sell them, they are worth more than the oem's and just buy another set

Great idea. Spoken like a true business man.


I thought the 2's were discontinued quite some time ago. :confused::confused::confused:

I wonder where they found these, and if indeed supply is short...if anyone here NEEDS them as spares. :dunno:

Well, if somebody wants them I may have a GREAT deal for them.

I just noticed that Tire Rack is now selling the KDW2 (front) for $202.00. I only paid a little over $140.00 for them so any offers above that and I will ship them out if somebody "needs" them.

http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t327/ShoraMarauder/2-1.jpg

http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t327/ShoraMarauder/1-1.jpg

[DOOM]

I thought they stopped making these tires for our cars :confused:

[Shora]

I thought they stopped making these tires for our cars :confused:


Maybe they stopped the rears only because tirerack still has them in stock. 202 bucks each.

[ImpalaSlayer]

they still make em just not the rears, even though there still listed on the web site.

[Motorhead350]

Those look sweet. I'm going to need some rubbers for Suzy (the Marauder) before I put her away for the winter... before our tires go out of production again.

[Cobra25]

Good advise.

You have tried both and prefer the KDWS?

Also, I cannot put the nittos all the way around because they are the Nitto 420. Smallest they come in is 255/55 which I think is way too big for the front. I have the Nitto 255/55 on front and no rubbing issues at all. They look good. But I do have the 295/55 on the rear with widened rims. The KDWS are better in the rain and have more rubber . If I had to choose between the KDWS & the KDW2, I'd go with the KDWS.

[Shora]

Those look sweet. I'm going to need some rubbers for Suzy (the Marauder) before I put her away for the winter... before our tires go out of production again.


Only our rears go in and out of producion. In fact, they are on backorder now. However, the fronts are on sale so get them while they are hot.

[Shora]

I have the Nitto 255/55 on front and no rubbing issues at all. They look good. But I do have the 295/55 on the rear with widened rims. The KDWS are better in the rain and have more rubber . If I had to choose between the KDWS & the KDW2, I'd go with the KDWS.

I was going to install the KDW2 this morning but decided against it because of your experience with both. Thanks Z.

[Jolly Roger]

If anyone is interested, I just talked to Discount tire and bought a set of 255/55/18 Nitto 420S's for the rear of my MM and was told that there is a 235/55/18 nitto 420S available. (Could be used for the front)?

[Shora]

If anyone is interested, I just talked to Discount tire and bought a set of 255/55/18 Nitto 420S's for the rear of my MM and was told that there is a 235/55/18 nitto 420S available. (Could be used for the front)?


Well, it's not on their website.

I wonder has anyone used 235/55 in the front?

[sd8683]

Well, it's not on their website.

I wonder has anyone used 235/55 in the front?


Hmmm.... That's interesting, the sidewalls aren't that much bigger, I think it would look and drive good

[ctrlraven]

It will be safe to run the KDW2's up front and your Nitto's in the rear. I run KDWS up front and KDW2 in the rear. THE ONLY PROBLEM is that you can't rotate them as they are a directional tire unless you have the tire taken off the rim and switched Left to Right. Oh and other than if you get into a grove in the road the car will track slightly different but its no big thing.

The 255/55-18 KDW2 was the discontinued tire, they still sell other sizes. I was thinking about going with KDW2's up front but I would of gone with a 245/45 up front and kept my 255/55 in the rear.

[High-C]

Great idea. Spoken like a true business man.



Well, if somebody wants them I may have a GREAT deal for them.

I just noticed that Tire Rack is now selling the KDW2 (front) for $202.00. I only paid a little over $140.00 for them so any offers above that and I will ship them out if somebody "needs" them.

http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t327/ShoraMarauder/2-1.jpg

http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t327/ShoraMarauder/1-1.jpg

Where are you located again? I will take them if you can ship them to me without any issues. I can PM you my UPS account number and you can ship them collect....

[Jolly Roger]

Well, it's not on their website.

I wonder has anyone used 235/55 in the front?

Not listed on the site, you'll have to call and ask.
I was quoted $158.00 Ea.

[Shora]

Not listed on the site, you'll have to call and ask.
I was quoted $158.00 Ea.

Good info. I actually found them on the Nitto Tire Home Page.

The question becomes, has ANYONE run 235/55 tires in the front??

[Shora]

Where are you located again? I will take them if you can ship them to me without any issues. I can PM you my UPS account number and you can ship them collect....


I will let you know. Give me 48 hrs. to decide what to do with them.

[red]

Hmmm.... That's interesting, the sidewalls aren't that much bigger, I think it would look and drive good
They're almost 1" taller. That is significant, could cause clearance issues (especially if there are suspension modifications), and will have more flex than stock since the sidewall is much taller.


The question becomes, has ANYONE run 235/55 tires in the front??
I've not heard of anyone running these, but others are apparently running 255/55R18's in the front, which are ~1.7" taller. I would not recommend doing this, especially if you're looking for handling responsiveness.