Triton V10 is Home...PICS!

[Zack]

This thing is HUGE :eek:

Here it is:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/0/4/V10Project001.jpg
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/0/4/V10Project003.jpg
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/0/4/V10Project013.jpg

I love Modular engines, because they are, well, 'MODULAR'!

I was concerned about the oil and water neck on the drivers side:
Stock Water & Oil cooler pic:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/0/4/V10Project007.jpg

Pic with Marauder motor mount:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/0/4/V10Project008.jpg

Pic with Marauder Water Outlet:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/0/4/V10Project009.jpg

So far so good... er....Oil pan

Stock vs Marauder:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/0/4/V10Project010.jpg

Stock Marauder pan bolted up:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/0/4/V10Project011.jpg



So, to get this thing in the car, Im going to order another Marauder Oil pan.
Then I will lay the v10 pan out on cardboard and spray some paint through the holes, creating a template. Once I have that, I can cut the front section off the old Marauder pan and weld it onto the new Marauder pan to fit.

As is, the V10 pan will hit the crossmember and is way too deep (9.5" vs 6.25 on the MM)
A small adjustment to a stock MM oil pick up tube and the engine will be in the car.

I must admit Im scared of the electrical wiring needed for this to be a success. I have the best brains working to see if the Marauder computer has the extra drivers built in to run 2 extra cylinders. If so this will be much easier than I thought.
If not, I will have to adapt the V10 computer to run the engine and other essential MM functions, and most likely buy a stand alone Bauminator 4R70W transmission controller.

Ill keep everyone in the loop :banana2:

[Mike]

Good luck....(I think you'll need it) :beer:

[MarauderTJA]

Dam Zack, now that is a project.....gotta love it..:D Go for it buddy and keep us posted.:beer:

[justbob]

Good luck!! Keep us posted.

[jgc61sr2002]

Zack - Now that's a project. Good Luck.

[magindat]

There's been one put in a Vic. If they can do it, you can do it. I have faith in ya, bud!!!

[offroadkarter]

Your sick in the head! Awesome project :D

[Zack]

There's been one put in a Vic. If they can do it, you can do it. I have faith in ya, bud!!!

Was it a 2V?
This is a 3V, much more involved, and is drive by wire.

Thanks for the reassurance, Im gonna REALLY need it here. :D

[SC Cheesehead]

Zack - Now that's a project. Good Luck.

Hey buddy, get that rascal slapped in Prozak and bring it on down to Marauderville!

[Zack]

Wouldnt it be cool if I had Logan Motorsports build me a custom Carbureted intake for this thing and went that route?


Oh god, so it begins :rolleyes:

[Black_Noise]

there isnt room for 2?

[ctrlraven]

Keep the ideas rolling Zack, can't wait to read more about the project.

[03blackvegas]

The potential is enormous, uncharted waters for sure. If you succeed your a hero,if not than valuable lessons and knowledge will be obtained. Good luck.

[magindat]

Was it a 2V?
This is a 3V, much more involved, and is drive by wire.

Thanks for the reassurance, Im gonna REALLY need it here. :D

Here it is:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/248160

[RoyLPita]

How about using the MM TB for non drive-by-wire.

I know this: The PCM is the one that flat and has 3 plug ins.

Keep us posted.

[magindat]

another, I think
http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/72538_1999_ford_crown_victoria/index.html

[n00bkiller944]

Wow man, thats an awesome engine. What is it out of?

[SID210SA]

Just a question....will the new fabbed up oil pan hold enough oil for the v-10?

[Zack]

How about using the MM TB for non drive-by-wire.

I know this: The PCM is the one that flat and has 3 plug ins.

Keep us posted.

I may find a pcm and wiring harness from an older 2v V10. That way I can keep the computer in the stock location.



Wow man, thats an awesome engine. What is it out of?

2005 F250

[Zack]

Just a question....will the new fabbed up oil pan hold enough oil for the v-10?

Good question. I wish I knew :bigcry:

[RoyLPita]

Do you need a V10 TB?

[Zack]

Do you need a V10 TB?

I dont know, but I will contact you first if I do ;)

[CRUZTAKER]

Good luck crazy man!

First V10 Marauder...nice. :cool:

[TAKEDOWN]

OoOoOoOoO Zack! Take a lot of pictures, and keep us updated!

[FordNut]

Wow
Just Wow.

[Dragcity]

Where, really, where, do you find the time?????

Good luck Brother Zack!

[Rocknthehawk]

omg...you were serious....

[OneBADLsE]

omg...you were serious....


He has the money and know how to do so. I never doubted he was serious ;)


Zack, Good luck with DBW. I cant wait to see the write up on how you get around it/get it to work with the MM.


Geeze its a fawkin monster!!!!!! :eek:


Get'r DONE!

[OneBADLsE]

http://imgs2.images.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/p144334_large+1999_ford_crown_ victoria_sedan+engine.jpg

http://imgs2.images.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/p144331_large+1999_ford_crown_ victoria_sedan+rear_right.jpg

This is inspiration :D

[rayjay]

Too kewl! Here comes the Zackinator.

[offroadkarter]

He has the money and know how to do so. I never doubted he was serious ;)


Zack, Good luck with DBW. I cant wait to see the write up on how you get around it/get it to work with the MM.


Geeze its a fawkin monster!!!!!! :eek:


Get'r DONE!


he could convert the motor to being a throttle cable using an older style TB.




I think......

[TooManyFords]

You could always go BigStuff3 for the engine like I did and leave the marauder harness alone.

[Eric-Blk2004]

Engineer it up and into a kit and I am sold!

I love torque lol that looks amazing man keep up the good work

[BAD MERC]

Correct me if I'm wrong. I am sure somebody else here saw it too - a long time ago. It was Car and Driver or MotorTrend that had a propane-powered Triton V10 in a Crown Vic that made astronomical horsepower and weighed nearly as much as a V8 car.

[Breadfan]

Why let the whipple sit around with an adapter plate I'm sure it'd fit that V10... ;)

[Vortech347]

Thats cooler than the invention of the gun...

Love it!!! Can't wait to see the results, take lots of pics of the build.

[gdmjoe]

magindat - There's been one put in a Vic. If they can do it, you can do it.
Actually there have been several; including a shoppe in CA that did the conversion for LEAs (Law Enforcement Agencies).

Then there was the Galaxie endeavor a few years back started by a CrownVic.net member. $$$$$ effort that stopped when the individual lost his job and had to liquidate.

*Will dig thru old bookmarks to see if I can find some specifics.

Carry-on .....

[Joe Walsh]

I tell you what...those cast iron exhaust manifolds don't look too shabby!
They remind me of a less pronounced version of the old 427 cast iron manifolds...nice individual tubes sweeping back into a common manifold.
If they fit the Maruder's chassis, maybe get them extrude honed and coated..:dunno:

[Drewstang]

Nice, but its going to need boost. A V10 alone is not enough wow factor. :D

[Embassy]

Looking forward to seeing it at your shin-dig next month.

[n00bkiller944]

Zach, if you don't mind me asking what do you do for a living? I'm curious how you have the skill, knowledge, and money to do this project. Its amazing! Good luck man, and take loads of photos!

[gdmjoe]

Panther V10 links .....
Galaxie (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/248160) <<<<< -click-
Scott Alder Motorsports (http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/specialty_files_tuner_cars/propane_v_10_ford_crown_victor ia_police_interceptor_specialt y_file) <<<<< -click-
Other pic's .....

[Vortech347]

He does what we all do....Why else need a trunk so big...

We're all hitmen.

[SC Cheesehead]

He does what we all do....Why else need a trunk so big...

We're all hitmen.

Yeah, South Side of Chicago, you know, "family"!;)

[TAKEDOWN]

Panther V10 links .....
Galaxie (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/248160) <<<<< -click-
Scott Alder Motorsports (http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/specialty_files_tuner_cars/propane_v_10_ford_crown_victor ia_police_interceptor_specialt y_file) <<<<< -click-
Other pic's .....

That's cool, can't wait to see how yours turns out Zack.

[Zack]

I tell you what...those cast iron exhaust manifolds don't look too shabby!
They remind me of a less pronounced version of the old 427 cast iron manifolds...nice individual tubes sweeping back into a common manifold.
If they fit the Maruder's chassis, maybe get them extrude honed and coated..:dunno:

Hey Joe, you might doubt me, but......

Those cast iron manifolds are STAINLESS STEEL :eek: :eek: :eek:

[ctrlraven]

Zack I hope your writing down notes for this install cause if all goes well your going to have a lot of people interested in doing something like this.

Hell I've already been thinking about it as the next step when my motor decides to retire.

[juno]

Zach,

What are the internals on the v-10? Forged Crank? Powder pistons and rods?

Good luck Dude!! This is the best project in a long time!!!!!!

[Zack]

Zach,

What are the internals on the v-10? Forged Crank? Powder pistons and rods?

Good luck Dude!! This is the best project in a long time!!!!!!

From peering into the engine from the bottom, it is a forged crank with Powdered metal rods and alloy pistons.

Im pretty sure Im gonna switch to a 2003 V10 Computer, rid myself of the drive by wire and be able to keep the PCM control of the transmission.
I just ordered another oil pan, I have to buy a band saw from Sears tonight to get that done :cool:
Once it is set in the car, I can address the wiring and any intake changes that need to be made.
The only thing I am in the dark about is the Variable cam timing (cam phasers). With the earlier PCM, im wondering if the actual VCT hard parts need to be removed :confused:

[Tom Doan]

I agree with Joe, nice looking exhaust manifolds.

[JVJ]

This is a GREAT MONSTER engine. Hope everything goes well with your project, and yes, don't forget pictures, PLEASE!!! Good Luck Bro. :burnout:

[ImpalaSlayer]

would be totaly bad ass if you could make this a kit! you sell kit, buyer suppys engine

[juno]

Zack,

While you are chopping up the oil pan, why not widen it to get an extra quart or two?

[Zack]

Zack,

While you are chopping up the oil pan, why not widen it to get an extra quart or two?

Im not chopping it up really, just welding the front section of a pan onto the other pan.

I want this to be as simple as possible so It is convincing to others that this can be accomplished by a regular guy in the garage.

The Modular engines tuck the crank way into the block, so extra oil capacity is as simple as overfilling (as referenced by the dipstick)

You can fit 7 quarts into a stock Marauder pan and the oil wont even crest over the top.

[knine]

A pumpkin will fit into a peanut shell.

[Glenn]

Probably one of the most interesting and challenging MM projects the net has seen in a long time. Most interesting. What HP do you think you can get? Keep us informed and plenty of pictures. You are going to bring it to SSHS8???

Glenn :burnout:

[Joe Walsh]

From peering into the engine from the bottom, it is a forged crank with Powdered metal rods and alloy pistons.

I see that it is an 8 bolt crank/flywheel which means a forged crank in an 8 cylinder....so does that follow for a 10 cylinder?


The only thing I am in the dark about is the Variable cam timing (cam phasers). With the earlier PCM, im wondering if the actual VCT hard parts need to be removed :confused:

It would be great if you could keep the cam phasers active for maximum torque and HP across the engine's rpm range.

BTW: Did you try to stick a magnet on the exhaust manifolds to confirm that they are S.S.? If they are...that is really cool for a truck engine!

[Zack]

I see that it is an 8 bolt crank/flywheel which means a forged crank in an 8 cylinder....so does that follow for a 10 cylinder?



It would be great if you could keep the cam phasers active for maximum torque and HP across the engine's rpm range.

BTW: Did you try to stick a magnet on the exhaust manifolds to confirm that they are S.S.? If they are...that is really cool for a truck engine!



I just realized this engine does not have cam phasers! Only the 4.6 and 5.4 3V engine have them. Life just got easier!

[martyo]

This car would run a A LOT better with a set of fender badges! :D

[Zack]

This car would run a A LOT better with a set of fender badges! :D

Can I paypal?

[martyo]

Can I paypal?


Yes, but you better hurry! I kid you not, the four sets left include teh two sets I was holding for you.

You can send cash, check or Paypal. My e-mail address is martin_ochs@hotmail.com Please note that there is a "_" between my first and last names but it does not always show up with the hyperlinks on this site.