Please Help

[capt512]

Even though the question I am writing is about a Crown Vic and not a marauder, i still think some of you guys might be able to help, or atleast i hope so. I have a 1999 Crown Vic Police Interceptor and was changing the oil filter last night and can't get it off. It was too tight to remove with just my hand, so i used a filter wrench and the filter wrench actually crushed the sides of the filter in, then i used an old trick and knocked a hole through both sides of the filter to turn it, but instead it just made a "slot" around the filter, by bending the metal. The filter is pretty torn up and i can't seem to get it off, if I am not able to get it off by monday i will have to have it towed to a shop to see if they can get it off, if they can't then i can't afford a new engine so i'll just have to sell it non-running, i guess. So the question is, does anyone have any ideas on how to remove the filter. Thanks alot.
Mike:(

[RCSignals]

See if you can buy a pair of oil filter "pliers". Grip the filter as close to the base as you can. I know there isn't a lot of space. You may only be able to move it a fraction of an inch at a time.

[vegasmarauder]

I had one that was stuck like glue on a 302. Did the same thing, tore the filter up with a screwdriver through it, etc. I was told to try this (and it worked). The filter is stuck because the rubber ring is compressed too tight. Take a flat ended pry bar, (I used a short tire iron), and gently pry the edge of the filter away from the mounting boss. You actually don't have to make any space there, just enough to get some slight movement on it away from the engine, that's enough. Spray some penetrating oil in while you do that. Try again with a filter wrench and see if it's broken loose. It worked for me, and I had actually torn most of the sides of the filter up bad. If that had not worked the next step was to remove as much of the filter as possible and then bend the lip up away from the mounting boss, spray penetrating oil on the filter treads from what used to be the inside and wait, then fold two of the sides up into two opposing flat areas and use a big pliers or adjustable wrench to turn it loose.
Good luck..

[RCSignals]

Be cautious of doing that on the 4.6. The filter boss on a 302 is cast iron. It's aluminum on these cars, and easy to damage if you are prying with a pry bar type tool

[martyo]

Originally posted by RCSignals
See if you can buy a pair of oil filter "pliers". Grip the filter as close to the base as you can. I know there isn't a lot of space. You may only be able to move it a fraction of an inch at a time.

What RC said is a great way to go. Some of the specialty tool catalogs sell nice oil filter wrenches. I saw one recently in Griot's Garage (look here: http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?SKUupsell=11912) and this should do the trick. You can probably buy one at your local parts place.

Like RC said, when you next attempt to remove the filter, be sure to grab it as low down as you can.

Good luck.

[Thomas C Potter]

If access is good, take a big screw driver/chisel, and hit the holes in the base plate, in the direction that will unscrew the filter base. My '84 442 has this on factory filter, paint on gasket surface acted like glue, spent 2 hrs!!!!!!!!!!!!

TP

[capt512]

Hey guys, thanks for all your help, i did as suggested, on here first trying filter wrenches, then a chisel, screwdriver, and hammer, to try and make it turn, then finally taking all the sheetmetal of the filter off and hitting the holes in the filter base counter-clockwise with a huge hammer, and punch for about 1hour with no luck. I sprayed wd-40 on it and that still didn't help. The filter won't budge one bit in either direction. So are there anymore suggestions? If not i will go ahead and have it towed monday, but i honestly don't think they will be able to get it off either.
Mike

[Smokie]

Capt512, Maybe is too late but I will offer two suggestions: A chainlink wrench if there is enough of the base of the filter to wrap around it, if not if you have air tools I suggest using an air hammer with a chisel head on it, the chisel must be totally blunt and dull edge (you don't want it to cut, only to push) I had this problem about 5 years ago with my C/V I understand how you feel. Best of Luck.