1st 1/4 run, want to go S/C

[MSR7878]

I made my first 1/4 run yesterday at New England Dragway. I ran a 15.56 @ 92.7. I could have done a little better but I was next to a 8.90 ET racer and the noise and vibration from his car really shook me up, the two seconds from staged to go was really quick. Hope to do better next time. Any way I was hopeing for info on superchargers from members who have bought them. Any advice would be appreciated.

[Zack]

Call me.
708-476-2647
Zack

[martyo]

Hey Mike. Not bad for a first time. Do what Zack says: Call him. You won't be sorry.

Oh yeah were you running your straight pipes??? You probably scared the **** out of the other drivier! :D

[MI2QWK4U]

MSR, you have a couple of choices now. Go back and check some threads on the topic. I installed a Roots style Eaton blower, and increased my horsepower to the rear wheels by about 150HP with a very conservative and safe tune. Bone stock it had 243RWHP, and with the blower it pulled 387RWHP. This is on a car that is otherwise bone stock, my kit didnt need other items with it to run really well. I took my car to the strip the day after it was installed and dyno tuned. Unfortunately I couldnt get the car to hook well on the stock tires, the track was terrible, but i was able to get a few good pulls in. Best was 13.501 @ 105 mph. The same setup produced a 12.7 I believe at a better track. Here are a couple of links with info on an Eaton setup. Good luck, and if there is anything you would like to know about my setup, feel free to ask.

http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4811

http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4791

http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4834

[Mikeenh]

MSR7878,
I ran there Wednesday night. My times were horrible. In July on a hot humid night with a full tank of gas and all the junk in my trunk I ran a 14.826 @ 94.41 mph.
Wednesday I took everthing out of the trunk including the spare (talk about POOR design), had a quarter tank of 94 octane and all I did was spin.My 1/8th mile time was 2 seconds slower than the July run. It was so slick that at the eighth mile it must have shifted to third, because it wanted to head left at the wall. The track was incredibly bussy so I only got 2 runs in. I don't know how these sc Marauders catch any traction.
If you go again this year, let me know. I'm 35 miles from the track. It would be fun running two MM's. :burnout:

[ChuckB]

a basic fundamental of the 1/4 is not to race the other lane. try very hard to concentrate ONLY on your activities. Keep the tree cadence in your head - it's a commony used technique by drivers of cars much faster than the MM..

If you must warm the tires (14 - 15 sec cars seldom benefit) only back to the beginning of the trap - just enough the start them. you do not want to throw water into your wheel wells - obviuos reasons gravity - our cars need all the 60 ft. help they can get.

the stock MM is predictable. Unless they've dusted the track find the sweet stripes (bunrt and build up rubber dark patches) Stage deep, low gear, ac and fans off, windows up, load the converter to 2000 - 2200 remember your cadence not the other lane. Bicycle the peddles - as your brake comes up your throttle goes down. shift at 5200 - 5400.

these basic's will produce high 14's all day long. don't get upset at a bad run - heck i've have more bad runs most folks have made - the message is don't worry and have fun. practice practice and practice.

[MSR7878]

Thanks for all of the advice, Zack I will be calling you on Tuesday, Can't wait to hear what you have to say

[SergntMac]

Originally posted by MSR7878
I was hoping for info on superchargers from members who have bought them. Any advice would be appreciated.

Man-oh-man MSR, I love the pic. Please send me a copy at SergntMac@aol.com I love live actions pics.

MSR, you ask a question that is sure to invite many opinions, and this is my humble opinion.

I own a Vortech/centrifical supercharged MM, a turn-key race car from Kenny Brown. It's performance is no less than spectacular, and it can perform in a wide variety of competitions, not just straight line 1/4 mile events. It's fast...Everywhere. However, this isn't my real point. something more important is on my mind.

In a nutshell..."Build your own car."

I mean to say that YOU need to build YOUR own MM. Purchase any of the kits available here, they all perform very well and hold very high "bang for the buck" value. But...Do the install yourself, BUILD your own race car. This is a joy that cannot be appreciated, until it's noted missed.

I bought my car designed and assembled by someone else, all I did was pay for it, and drive it home. I am delighted with my MM, and the designer's intent, as well as his execution. This is one delicious ride. However, I missed out on being involved in the planning, the exploration, and the execution. I mean no harm by my choice of lateral arguments here, but buying a turn key car, or kit, is much like the difference between natural parenting, and adoption.

Buying turn-key race cars is good, if it works for you within your lifestyle. But, you do end up owning someone's elses idea of what's right and proper in THEIR design of your car, and you have to live with THEIR choices.

Buying an installed kit is also good, price-wise, but you're still buying someone else's ideas, designs, and surely, their executions, only you're buying it in a "bare-bones" sort of way. You could end up dealing with an "Apollo 13" problem, where you're having problems and need advice, only to find out that "Houston" has left the building.

My best advice? Start with your bone stock MM, and make a plan. Map out your course, dividing the "mods" between those that actually produce more power, and those that enhance the power you have, or, improve on safety and durability.

Build your car one mod at a time, we'll help you. Call for advice, guidance, maybe some new shortcuts? And, when you reach a specific performance bottle-neck, be ready to step into a supercharger kit, and the right kit too. Some kits here are built around mods that you have accomplished. Others ignore their necessity, and when you get bothered by your MMs performance, you also get someone's voice mail...

Trust me on this, I've owned one MM I built myself, and I sold that MM just to own a pro-built turn-key race car. IMHO...Build your own MM, and build it one step at a time. You will not regret this experience. I didn't realize this until I had the honor of watching Zack build his own MM. That's when I realized that I had denied myself the final satisfaction. I missed out on creating the bad azzed MM that just kicked your azz at the last stop light.

Yeah, I bought it, but I didn't build it, and that will be a pre-existing disappointment somewhere down the MM road.

Building your own MM is as important as buying it, and owning it...IMHO.

Any objections? I'm SergntMac@aol.com

PS...Added after post.

Forget everything I just posted, none of it matters one bit...

Just call Zack, listen to him as he explains his joy of ownership.

You'll hear what I mean, K? Just hope you get it.

[MSR7878]

Sergt, did you get the email of the pic? If not let me know. Thanks for your input, Probably will go Eaton and hopefully install myself

[SergntMac]

Got it, thanks <ike. Send me your phone number and I'll give you a call when I get back from Marauderville, K?

[John F. Russo]

How did you generate so much smoke? Or was it partly from another car?

When I went to the track for a test and tune, I got no smoke probably because I hd Pirelli P-Zero tires.

I now have only 5/32 in. tread according to a few measurements using a tread depth tire gauge. So in 1100 miles I don't have much even though I have not spun the wheels more than about a dozen times off the line.

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2003 Blue 300B (Canadian) (traction control, mini spare, trunked 6 disc
CD changer,clock-in-the-radio, heated front seats, hood light)
Born 12/10/02
10,000 miles
Stock transmission (upgraded with Performance Automatic
clutches and band after stock tranny failed in 8,800 miles)
Wheel locks (Ford)
Mileage: 18 mpg at a steady speed of 80 mph
Tire minder valve stem caps (getting rid of them- unreliable)
Kenny Brown: 6th “signature series” conversion (450 hp) 3/28/03
Dead pedal
Baer front brakes 14 in. two piston, vented rotors
MMX Driveshaft
4.10 gears
Vortech supercharger (7 to 8 psig boost)
Pirelli P-Zero
FordChip
One coil of each front stock spring removed to produce
the “same” effect as an Eibach spring

[MSR7878]

Alot of the smoke was from the other car, it was a real race car (8.90 pro comp class) I did get alot because I held the burnout for almost 45 second so the wife could get a good picture

[merc406]

Don't feel bad I ran a 12.03 and was slow man at the track that day, a couple of years ago. Never went back.

[Menace]

MSR, being the proud new owner of Trilogy s/c #0005 I can tell you that you won't be disappointed with an Eaton type blower. I bought it and did not build it myself because I wanted it done right by a professional mechanic. The car is awesome with lots of power on tap. It dynoed at 382 rwhp and 348 ft-lbs of torque with 9 lbs. of boost. I believe the Trilogy kit delivers the best performance for the least amount of money of all the kits available.:burnout: :up: :coolman:

[MSR7878]

Menace, If I may ask how much did you spend above the cost of the kit for parts? and labor? Thanks