Steering wheel tight at speed.

[Aren Jay]

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[ckadiddle]

I dunno if it can be changed, but it is currently working correctly. The power steering system gives plenty of power boost at parking lot speed to make it easier to maneuver the beast around tight spots and reduces the amount of power to give you more of a tight, sports car-ish steering feel.

For comparison, the 2001 and 1997 crown vics that I used to have had soft easy steering at all speeds.

Maybe one of our mechanically minded friends here has worked on this feature and knows how to tweak it.

[Bluerauder]

Now I think it is supposed to do this to keep highway driving smooth, but it sure makes corners at speed hard on the arms.

In Calgary we have a main road, it is quite fast 62.5 MPH and has alot of turns and twists in it.

The Steering tightens up at this speed and it feels almost like there is no power steering.

Is there someway to not have it do this?
You sure do seem to spend alot of time contemplating non-problems. :rolleyes: From my perspective, the MM steering seems fine and the car handles well. Of course, I have never tried to make a 90 degree turn at 62.5 MPH or hairpin turns at that speed either. If you are having problems with steering being hard on your arms now ... you would have loved parallel parking a car in the 50s or 60s before power steering was common.

[larryo340]

I think you need to go to the gym :rolleyes:

[fastblackmerc]

Post wh0ring at it's finest!

[Marauderjack]

Now I think it is supposed to do this to keep highway driving smooth, but it sure makes corners at speed hard on the arms.

In Calgary we have a main road, it is quite fast 62.5 MPH and has alot of turns and twists in it.

The Steering tightens up at this speed and it feels almost like there is no power steering.

Is there someway to not have it do this?

Link to road in question even if the info isn't completely correct you can see what I mean about it having turns:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deerfoot_Trail

Ahem.....It is supposed to be "STIFF" at speed.....they call it speed sensitive steering!!:beer: Very easy to steer at low speeds and less assist above 5-10 MPH!!:rolleyes:

You can defeat it by disconnecting the plug on the rack.....without a signal it defaults to maximum assist (I think....at least it did on all CV's I owned).....give it a try and report back!!??:cool:

Good Luck up thar!!:help:

Marauderjack:burnout:

[fastblackmerc]

Maybe if you read the owners manual........ instead of post wh0ring.......

[Joe Walsh]

You sure do seem to spend alot of time contemplating non-problems. :rolleyes: From my perspective, the MM steering seems fine and the car handles well. Of course, I have never tried to make a 90 degree turn at 62.5 MPH or hairpin turns at that speed either. If you are having problems with steering being hard on your arms now ... you would have loved parallel parking a car in the 50s or 60s before power steering was common.

Hey Charlie, my Dad called that "Armstrong power steering".....:P

[AConvertedChevy]

haha yeah my 91 caprice was that way, i could literally spin the wheel like the price is right on that thing lol
great for parking lots.... lots of unintended lane changes after sneezing on the highway hahaha

[Bluerauder]

Hey Charlie, my Dad called that "Armstrong power steering".....:P
Yep, I can remember back to Armstrong Power Steering, my Whole Body Weight drum brakes, and 2-70 or 4-70 Air Conditioning. :D

I learned how to drive and to parallel park in a '62 Chevy Bel Air station wagon, 283 cid, and sporting 8.25" x 14" tires. You could literally not turn the wheel when it was standing still at all. As a teen, my butt would lift out of the seat as I applied steering wheel torque with both hands to go hard over right to back into a parking space. The steering wheel diameter was about 2"-3" wider than the ones today just to give that extra leverage.

After that kind of training, I get amused watching people today trying to back into a parking space on the street and take 4-5 passes to even get close. Back "in the day" anyone who couldn't parallel park was called a "Pedestrian". :rofl:

[larryo340]

Yep, I can remember back to Armstrong Power Steering, my Whole Body Weight drum brakes, and 2-70 or 4-70 Air Conditioning. :D

I learned how to drive and to parallel park in a '62 Chevy Bel Air station wagon, 283 cid, and sporting 8.25" x 14" tires. You could literally not turn the wheel when it was standing still at all. As a teen, my butt would lift out of the seat as I applied steering wheel torque with both hands to go hard over right to back into a parking space. The steering wheel diameter was about 2"-3" wider than the ones today just to give that extra leverage.

After that kind of training, I get amused watching people today trying to back into a parking space on the street and take 4-5 passes to even get close. Back "in the day" anyone who couldn't parallel park was called a "Pedestrian". :rofl:

I hear you, but I learned to drive on a '63 Chevy II with power steering. For those of you that haven't had the pleasure of driving a '60s Chevy with power steering it felt like it had "Pole Position" steering:

http://www.notsonoisy.com/poleposition/poleposition_origine.gif
Pole Position steering feels like the steering column is not attached to the steering linkage. Waayyyyyyyyyyy over assisted :eek:

[Vortech347]

This is a good thing.....

[OneBADLsE]

I hear you, but I learned to drive on a '63 Chevy II with power steering. For those of you that haven't had the pleasure of driving a '60s Chevy with power steering it felt like it had "Pole Position" steering:

http://www.notsonoisy.com/poleposition/poleposition_origine.gif

Pole Position steering feels like the steering column is not attached to the steering linkage. Waayyyyyyyyyyy over assisted :eek:



LMAOO!!!!!

Thats beyond WAAAAY over assisted lol

[Aren Jay]

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[Stranger in the Black Sedan]

I think if you disconnect it you get maximum firmness/minimal assist. At least I know the GM magnasteer setups were that way, can anyone comment?

The GM magnasteer setups were PCM adjustable with a dealer tool within a limited range to adjust to customer preference.

Too much GM info! But thats all I know

[Haggis]

Hey you guys forget he has a Canadian model Marauder, they had the power steering assist at hi-speed discontended.

[Stranger in the Black Sedan]

Seriously? I would gladly lose the overboost these cars have at low speeds and have the steering firm all the time. It's still barely firm enough for me. A base model japanese car will have firmer steering than this car does.

[wchain]

Unplug the EVO unit.

[Stangracer89]

The power assist really screwed up my first autocross with my Marauder. I was a bit unprepared for the major change in "help" and drove right though the first set of cones. You really need to muscle your way around the Gymkhana.
Although I usually race the mustang, I can't wait to try unplugging the sensor and rip the autocross again. But now must wait for spring!

[Stranger in the Black Sedan]

So is that a confirmation that unplugging EVO makes it firm ALL THE TIME as opposed to soft all the time? I suppose I could go unplug mine and see... although I am guessing that is going to throw a code

[Vortech347]

You kidding? My MM is 10 times easier to Auto-x than my stang. My wife even ran it too and took first in the womens class.

[wchain]

Unplugging the EVO gives you full assist all the time.

[RF Overlord]

...EVO...Uh-huh-huh...you said orifice...

[Marauderjack]

Unplugging the EVO gives you full assist all the time.

I said that in post #6....just didn't refer to it as an "EVO" unit??!!:rolleyes:

If you do this you will go in a ditch when you sneeze!!:eek::beer:

[dbrown4bbl]

See my post "Intermittent Power Steering Failure" in Community Talk - this sounds like the problem I encountered.

[Bigdogjim]

I learned to drive in a 66 Mustang. (armstrong steering and brakes) come to think about it I don't think anything was powered.

Nice but mustang are a lighter than most cars we (Blue) and other learned to drive on:up:

Now try a 15 ton charter coach without powersteerning and manual tanns. (early '70's)

On a another note do you have factory sway bars and control arms? If so try upgrading...big help!!! :up::banana2::banana2: :banana2:

[wchain]

I said that in post #6....just didn't refer to it as an "EVO" unit??!!:rolleyes:

If you do this you will go in a ditch when you sneeze!!:eek::beer:

Nah, I had it unplugged on my 99 CVPI when the EVO got weak and flaky.

[Aren Jay]

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[Stranger in the Black Sedan]

The voltage supplied for variable effort steering is most likely going to be pulse width modulated. So you can't just intercept the signal and easily alter it