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Spectragod
01-09-2009, 08:25 PM
As the title says, I'm getting ready to pull the trigger, my question, being a newb and all, I am looking to do an Eaton Kit or the Lysholm Twin Screw kit. I am not considering anything else, those are the choices.

My MM is for the most part stock, low miles (16k), SW headers/cats, CAI, and a tune.

Which will do me the best and why, I know which way I am leaning, but I want to know from those in the know and have the real world experience with these that I don't.

Post up and help a brother out....

ImpalaSlayer
01-09-2009, 08:27 PM
i belive the TS is sugjested for built motors only.
i do have a cobra short block if you do really want the TS :D

Spectragod
01-09-2009, 08:34 PM
Well, after I grenade this motor, I was considering a forged longblock.

ImpalaSlayer
01-09-2009, 08:38 PM
lol i wouldnt do it that way. it may end up costing you more then if you upgrade the motor at the same time.

Dennis Reinhart
01-09-2009, 09:04 PM
As the title says, I'm getting ready to pull the trigger, my question, being a newb and all, I am looking to do an Eaton Kit or the Lysholm Twin Screw kit. I am not considering anything else, those are the choices.

My MM is for the most part stock, low miles (16k), SW headers/cats, CAI, and a tune.

Which will do me the best and why, I know which way I am leaning, but I want to know from those in the know and have the real world experience with these that I don't.

Post up and help a brother out....

Well if you are wanting Eaton call Jerry Barnes, a Lysholm Twin Screw kit, would be ok, up to about 450 RWHP after that then you are rolling dice any thing after that. I my self like this.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/6/dsc00045.jpg

DTRMiguel
01-09-2009, 09:19 PM
Get a eaton kit keep the boost between 9-14 psi and you will have more than enough to get your rocks off :up:

Dennis Reinhart
01-09-2009, 09:22 PM
Jerry makes a great kit, I think Gregg likes his as well.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/6/greggsnovi1500.jpg

offroadkarter
01-09-2009, 09:28 PM
Get a eaton kit keep the boost between 9-14 psi and you will have more than enough to get your rocks off :up:


Dont go over 9-10psi unless you want to repeat trilogy #33's downfall at englishtown.

Spectragod
01-09-2009, 09:40 PM
Dont go over 9-10psi unless you want to repeat trilogy #33's downfall at englishtown.

Uhhhh, yeah, saw those pics. I almost bought that car, then I figured I would buy one that was un-molested.... and keep it that way, that lasted 6 months.

Anyhow, not looking for any track action, just want that extra oooomph to pass, merge, embarass performance cars etc..

In all seriousness, this car is just a occasional driver, I just want to make sure I can back up Marauder heritage should the need arise. :D

RR|Suki
01-09-2009, 11:51 PM
Uhhhh, yeah, saw those pics. I almost bought that car, then I figured I would buy one that was un-molested.... and keep it that way, that lasted 6 months.

Anyhow, not looking for any track action, just want that extra oooomph to pass, merge, embarass performance cars etc..

In all seriousness, this car is just a occasional driver, I just want to make sure I can back up Marauder heritage should the need arise. :D

you should just get the eaton kit if that's all you want. It can deliver a lot more than you are wanting.

:beer:

justbob
01-10-2009, 12:06 AM
An eaton is proven performance and will do you no wrong. I drive mine in all weather! I don't care if its -10 to 115 degrees with the a/c on full blast, I have raced it in 50 degrees and 100 degrees and never once ran hot. The caracteristics of the car don't change at all, unless you want to pass some one.

Mine is so well mannered that if i have to drive in the snow so be it. The Lysholm kit looks to be even more impressive but is it needed? You can swap down to a 2.8 pulley on the Eaton (if forged) and have quite the monster. If i could do it all over again i would not change a thing.

With either kit you will no longer recognise your car. There will be one additional purchase that you will have to make.............Drag radials!!!

My 12.92 was acheived with a stock pulley, flowmasters, and a k&n drop in w/MT Streets, thats it. Not shaby for out of the box power, just think of all the room to build on when i feel i need some more.

I am also still running the stock trilogy chip untill i get a real dyno.

Local Boy
01-10-2009, 12:51 AM
You can't go wrong either way...

They both ROCK!

ALOHA

DOOM
01-10-2009, 01:37 AM
Get the base trilogy kit and be done. :up:

252life
01-10-2009, 01:51 AM
You don't need forged internals if you keep the stock pulley/ boost level that is provided in the Twin Screw kit.

If I'm not mistaking the Eaton kit makes 380- 390hp and the Twin Screw makes about 430 + allot of torque. With the same boost pressure. Seams like an easy choice to me.

Off course you can change the pulley on the Eaton and make more hp.
But to me it seams like it would actually be safer to run the lower stock boost pressure off the Twin Screw verses a smaller pulley and higher boost pressure which is needed to make same amount of power with the Eaton?


And by the way I love my Twin Screw! The power and response from the engine at any rpm is amazing. Plus the sound, looks, quality is also amazing.

jdando
01-10-2009, 06:57 AM
The level of engineering and quality of the Trilogy kit is great! It has been my daily driver for 2 1/2 years. It runs great from -15F to 105F. If you mechanically incline do the self install, you will appreciate it even more.

RoyLPita
01-10-2009, 07:31 AM
The level of engineering and quality of the Trilogy kit is great! It has been my daily driver for 2 1/2 years. It runs great from -15F to 105F. If you mechanically incline do the self install, you will appreciate it even more.

I'll get what ^^^^^he^^^^^ has and enjoy it.

DOOM
01-10-2009, 11:55 AM
so have you made your decision yet? :D

BruteForce
01-10-2009, 12:37 PM
Better hurry. A price increase was recently announced. :help:

burt ragio
01-10-2009, 12:47 PM
I can only afford a Barney Rubble supercharger.

DTRMiguel
01-10-2009, 12:48 PM
Id buy a kenne bell mammoth 2.8 for $7000... My .02

gmtech
01-10-2009, 12:52 PM
Eaton or TS... FTW :bows:





BUT....







2nd choice would be the Procharger Kit. Those are still being made aren't they?

Ralph Sr.
01-10-2009, 01:35 PM
impalaslayer you said no one is going to break into the 12's and be streetable ? MY 2007 Z06 RUNS MID 11'S and my sons new zr1 runs low 11's, and both are very streetable, bone stock, 100,000 warranty !! oh sorry you were talking fords and mercury marauders . ok i was only busting, and i do miss my marauder, nice ride and handling,and the good guys i met at carlisle, my brother tom still has his ,mint and low miles. ralph sr/rkvette

Vortech347
01-10-2009, 01:39 PM
You're comparing a car made for 180+ driving, 1+G skidpad and 4 times the price?

Its totally apples to apples..

Bradley G
01-10-2009, 01:40 PM
fOR THE DIFFERENCE IN COST, i WOULD GO ts.
yOU, like me had no intention of changing the Marauder by modifiying it.
That may happen again, be prepared!:D

Spectragod
01-10-2009, 05:11 PM
impalaslayer you said no one is going to break into the 12's and be streetable ? MY 2007 Z06 RUNS MID 11'S and my sons new zr1 runs low 11's, and both are very streetable, bone stock, 100,000 warranty !! oh sorry you were talking fords and mercury marauders . ok i was only busting, and i do miss my marauder, nice ride and handling,and the good guys i met at carlisle, my brother tom still has his ,mint and low miles. ralph sr/rkvette


You know what the difference between a Porcipine and a Corvette is.....

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The prcks are on the inside of the Corvette. :D :D

Spectragod
01-12-2009, 07:05 PM
so have you made your decision yet? :D

Yep, Twin Screw FTMFW. :D

DOOM
01-12-2009, 08:19 PM
Yep, Twin Screw FTMFW. :D

:2thumbs: :D :burnout:

im4darush
01-22-2009, 05:48 AM
Why no talk about a vortec style blower? I know eatons are great, have owned an 03 cobra so they are not new to me. But a car set up correctly with a vortec will make tons of power and have more than enough torque to roast the tires. Gears and a converter will be a must for that full-on-torque off the line feeling, but once configured......look out.

2ndMDRebel
01-22-2009, 06:41 AM
Why no talk about a vortec style blower?


Why? Because the OP was asking whether he should go with the Eaton or the Lysholm now whether or not he should go Roots or Centrifugal. His mind was already made up on the type of forced induction, he wanted some input on which one. Yeah, a centrifugal, "properly set up" can do a good job of moving the car but so can a rubber band. He made a great choice!

gpfarrell
01-23-2009, 09:16 PM
I haven't tried a twin-screw but I'm delighted with what I have.

Oh, and it's as streetable as a Lincoln Town Car and has no problem tickling the 12s.

Speed
01-24-2009, 02:19 PM
Ok, where can one go to buy a Trilogy (new or used) and what is the cost of installation

252life
01-24-2009, 02:30 PM
Ok, where can one go to buy a Trilogy (new or used) and what is the cost of installation

Check out the other Marauder site, and contact Jerry Barnes

http://www.motorcitymarauders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8111

MarauderTJA
01-24-2009, 06:55 PM
impalaslayer you said no one is going to break into the 12's and be streetable ? MY 2007 Z06 RUNS MID 11'S and my sons new zr1 runs low 11's, and both are very streetable, bone stock, 100,000 warranty !! oh sorry you were talking fords and mercury marauders . ok i was only busting, and i do miss my marauder, nice ride and handling,and the good guys i met at carlisle, my brother tom still has his ,mint and low miles. ralph sr/rkvette

My Marauder has a full interior, a daily driver, holds four people and runs low 10's. I eat Z06's and ZR1s for kunch...:lol:. Sorry couldn'r help myself.;)

Marauder131
01-25-2009, 12:46 PM
Why no talk about a vortec style blower? I know eatons are great, have owned an 03 cobra so they are not new to me. But a car set up correctly with a vortec will make tons of power and have more than enough torque to roast the tires. Gears and a converter will be a must for that full-on-torque off the line feeling, but once configured......look out.

It would seem based upon the initial inquiry, that the selection has already been narrowed to a Trilogy based product. Indeed, there are other avenues available when supercharging the Marauder, but in my honest opinion, one can't go wrong when opting for a Trilogy. They have unrivaled customer service and an extremely well engineered kit.

wchain
01-29-2009, 04:39 PM
Ok, where can one go to buy a Trilogy (new or used) and what is the cost of installation

FYI, I also am an authorized installer and retailer of the Trilogy Kit.

jdando
01-29-2009, 04:55 PM
Ok, where can one go to buy a Trilogy (new or used) and what is the cost of installation

As others have said contact Trilogy or Wes for a Trilogy kit.

Cost of installation depends who does the work. It can range from $100-2000. I think most "hot rod shops" would be in the $1500-2000 range, I did a self install so my cost was about $100 for some antifreeze, sparkplugs, miscellaneous supplies and pizza for the guys who helped :D.

If you have half way decent mechanical skills, you can do it yourself. Feel free to PM me with any questions about a self-install.

wchain
01-30-2009, 07:03 AM
AIt can range from $100-2000. I think most "hot rod shops" would be in the $1500-2000 range, I did a self install so my cost was about $100 for some antifreeze, sparkplugs, miscellaneous supplies and pizza for the guys who helped :D.


It also depends on how much the owner of the kit wants to 'help' with the install.

I had a guy ship the car here, then said "Call when you're done", and I've had folks come in, stay the weekend at my place and 'supervise' the installation.

Either way, the 1000ish range is close for labor.

Motorhead350
01-31-2009, 02:10 AM
I have Procharger number 30 and love it. Puts me to the end of the 1320 in 12.8 seconds and is still fully streetable.

Marauder131
01-31-2009, 02:52 PM
Anyone considering a kit would be wise to contact any of the individuals that supply the Trilogy kit. Everyone associated with the company are top notch people that will not stear you wrong. Not to mention that the kits offered by Trilogy are the best engineered for the Marauder, without a doubt.

Dr Caleb
02-01-2009, 11:40 AM
Husqvarna is nice. You do have to pre-mix the oil and gas, but it also has attachments for mulching leaves as well as the blower attachment.