Trilogy project car

[Dennis Reinhart]

Next week along with working on the six speed car we will be swapping out a motor on a Trilogy SC car, while the car is here I will add the IAT in the intake and make the FRPS boost sensitive, and retuning the car I will post complete photos, so this will be a fun project.

[BODYMAN]

Work youre Majic Dennis!

[Dennis Reinhart]

Will start tomorrow, the owner is here dropped the car off tonight. I will post this project with full pictures and will be posting more pictures of the six speed car.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Well the owner got here last night, the car was here this morning so we got started on it right away, Edwin first took out the transmission and then we took out the windshield wiper assembly and motor, this makes it much easier to get the motor out. When we are done with this the car will not look the same.

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Now below is a picture of the stock OEM knock sensor, the 03 has 1 the 04 has 2, this has to be moved to clear the lower half of the intake which contains the SC inner cooler, one of my goals is to see if I can keep it there, so the knock sensor will work as designed and no false knock is picked up when moved to the cylinder head, I will post pictures of this tomorrow. My other goal is to add the IAT in the lower half as done all present kits.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232419642-stockknocksensorlocation.jpg

Also I will T off of the back of the intake where there is a boost vacuum sensitive port this will go to the FRPS

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232421112-IMG_2203.jpg

I also want to add a larger reservoir this will help the after cooler


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[ridinclean]

Im interested to see how this turns out. What pulley is on this car?

[Glenn]

Dennis:

What is the part number and year car for the larger reservoir - sounds interesting for Trilogy owners.

Glenn :burnout:

[94_302]

Does this one by any chance have black rims and a chrome badgeless grill? I saw a Marauder being hauled into Jax on Sunday when I was leaving.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Dennis:

What is the part number and year car for the larger reservoir - sounds interesting for Trilogy owners.

Glenn :burnout:

Glenn let me do the Mod and do the R&D to make sure this works, now lets talk about today, the upper and lower half's of the kit are RTV, together the cobra lower which is used with the SC, and normally the upper is separated by a gasket, but as I said this kit uses RTV, after a year it was very difficult to separate the two, after separation what I found was a large amount of oil in the lower intake, this very well could be from a hurt engine.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232511495-intakeoil.jpg

Now this oil will be sucked into the intake ports and can cause detonation, again this could be caused by a broke ring, but I want to point this out, if you look at the back of the intake, what takes place is the stock OEM PCV is used on a Marauder is not a two way check valve, since the eaten type blower does not pressurize the upper intake there is no issue of having boost blowing back through the PCV as in a centrifugal blower, that is why I use a EV111 it blows closed under boost, but wit the roots SC the PCV will only see vacuum, but under high engine revs what can happen is you can suck oil out of the passenger side valve cover so tomorrow I am going to install a oil separator.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232512033-pcvtfiting.jpg

I will install the separator here keeping oil from being sucked into the intake

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Now what we did next is install the IAT in the lower intake, this allows the EEC to see actual IAT entering the the engine, the EEC can correct timing based on actual air temp entering the the engine, since IAT on the inlet of the SC is off by some times over 100 degrees. The IAT is built into the Marauder Maf so that is why a external IAT is added, and placed in the intake where it sees actual IAT entering the engine, and a stock Marauder Maf will peg close to 400 RWHP, so this car will also get a maf upgrade.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232512468-IATrelocate.jpg

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232512425-iat1.jpg

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232512523-iat2.jpg

More pictures in part 2

[Dennis Reinhart]

Now Don at Even flow make a great rear cooling kit, but with this kit it has interference on the passenger side, so I used my rear cooling kit.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232512782-rearcooling.jpg

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232512816-rearcoolingrearleft.jpg

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232512961-rearcoolingmod1.jpg

Now here is my most difficult correction, with this kit, as I said it uses a 03 Cobra lower inner cooler intake, the 03 Cobra is a cast block, and the 03 Cobra does not use knock sensors, the 03 Marauder or Mach 1 uses one, the 04 marauder uses 2, but they are aluminum blocks specifically designed for knock sensors located in the valley of the intake, since the kit uses a 03 Cobra intake, it will not clear the Bose's made into the block so they have to be ground down. and the knock sensor relocated to the back of the cylinder head making it basically useless, since it will pick up cam shaft and valve train noise giving a false spark knock.

Here is the stock knock sensor location

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232513774-IMG_2190_640x480.jpg

Here is a picture of the boss that has to be ground down to clear the lower intake, and the knock sensor has to be removed.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232514251-knockgroundoff.jpg

The knock sensor is then relocated tp the back of the cylinder head, this basicly renders the knock sensors useless it is not very clear I will post a better picture tomorrow.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232514840-IMG_2211_640x480.jpg

So what I did today is take red grease dab it on the stock knock sensor boss then install the cobra lower intake, and see where interference is, as shown below.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232515061-intakeinterference.jpg

What I plan to do is take this intake, drill a hole where the knock sensor interference is enclose that with a sort of aluminum cup, and keep the knock sensor where it's at and it should work as designed. More to follow. I will do this on a 03 Marauder motor I am installing in my wifes 98 Mark 8 with a Cora Eaton blower, I would have tried this on this car car but the owner has to be on the road by Friday.:beer:

[Dennis Reinhart]

Does this one by any chance have black rims and a chrome badgeless grill? I saw a Marauder being hauled into Jax on Sunday when I was leaving.


Yes this is the one.

[Marauderjack]

(Quote)Now this oil will be sucked into the intake ports and can cause detonation(Quote)

Impressive work Dennis but the above statement is not true!!:shake:

Though you probably don't want oil being sucked into the intake it will in fact cause a perceived increase in octane if mixed with fuel since oil molecules are much longer than fuel molecules thus burning much slower, effectively increasing apparent octane!!:beer:

Good luck with all of the mods....I look forward to the finished product pix and numbers!!:D

Marauderjack:burnout:

[Dennis Reinhart]

(Quote)Now this oil will be sucked into the intake ports and can cause detonation(Quote)

Impressive work Dennis but the above statement is not true!!:shake:

Though you probably don't want oil being sucked into the intake it will in fact cause a perceived increase in octane if mixed with fuel since oil molecules are much longer than fuel molecules thus burning much slower, effectively increasing apparent octane!!:beer:
Good luck with all of the mods....I look forward to the finished product pix and numbers!!:D

Marauderjack:burnout:

Now Jack you have, and I respect your opinion. I have mine, and you are saying oil pooling in the bottom of the take, that will be sucked into the engine cylinders can not cause issues. I will gracefully say ok with my fingers crossed behind my back, I simply say your wrong, but we can have differences of opinion

[BODYMAN]

Nice work Dennis! Boy that motor compartment was dirty.

[Marauderjack]

I agree to disagree!!:beer:

Carry on....Dennis!!;)

[Master]

I'd always found in the past (and I have a lot of experience with old beaters prior to getting a real job) that oil entrainment would lead to carboning of internals and rapid fouling of plugs. I don't recall detonation issues, though. However, considering the cars I used to drive, I doubt we were ever on the ragged edge of the detonation curve!
Great write-ups, though. I'm really enjoying this. The things that happen at your shop would simply never be done here at a speed shop in Nova Scotia. Maybe at Armstrong's (one of North America's top 10 builders, so I've been told), but not in your average speed shop.

[Marauderjack]

I run a small amount of oil in my fuel all the time in ALL vehicles as an upper cylinder lubricant....advised to do this many years ago by an older "Oil Guy"!!:bows:

I have never had a fouled plug or clogged cat and only use about an ounce (Ashless TCW-3) to 2 gallons of fuel........currently at 192,006 miles on the Marauder and it has never used any oil or spark knocked!!:shake:

Sorry to de-rail your thread Dennis.....I'll shut up now!!:D

Marauderjack:burnout:

[FordNut]

My experiences with burning oil are that it will cause two problems: First is plug fouling which leads to missing. Not too nice. The Second is carbon buildup in the cylinders on top of the pistons, on the valves, and on the combustion chambers. This leads to detonation. May take awhile, but eventually it will cause detonation. I'm not sure what the immediate effect would be, but I assume there is less energy capacity in the oil vapors than there is in plain old air and gasoline mixture even if there is a higher effective octane rating. So possibly less power capacity.

[DTRMiguel]

192,006 miles on the Marauder and it has never used any oil or spark knocked!!:shake:



192,006 miles? :eek:.... How many miles on the Procharger?

[O's Fan Rich]

When I pull my upper end off in a short while, I'll take pictures to compare.
It'll be interesting to see the difference a seperator and meth injection make with that crudy oil buildup.
Even NA cars have seen that stuff in the intake.... unless they run 12's then all bets are off!

[Stranger in the Black Sedan]

2 stroke in a modern engine. An ounce per two gallons is a LOT of oil. I have heard everything now. Nice.

[Marauderjack]

You have heard nothing yet...."Young Skywalker"!!!:rolleyes::D

[lastdaze04]

I agree its dirty:(. But I live on a dirt road, with a dirt drive way out in the middle of nowhere, plus since I knew I was going to swap engines I quit trying to keep the motor so tidy. Also its what is inside that counts. I always changed the oil @ reg intervals (3,000 miles) + or - a few. with Mobile 1 5w-20:D. What you really see is not hard encrusted dirt but a dusty engine. FWIW.:)

Rick.



Nice work Dennis! Boy that motor compartment was dirty.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Again Steve has busted but, working on Davids car as well as this one, today he installed the engine and transmission, it is 90% complete we had to install a new belt tensioner, and idler pulley, so today I took one of my cooling reservoirs modified it to replace the smaller one that comes with the kit.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232585682-fiveeithsfiting.jpg

It worked perfect I will clean all this up and get rid of the screw clamps, here is before.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232422887-IMG_2194.jpg

Here is afterword

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232584791-replacmentreservoir.jpg

Here is a good shot of where the knock sensor is relocated at the back of the cylinder head, my goal will to keep this in the intake valley on my Mark 8 Marauder engine with a 03 Cobra Eaton installed.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232584868-relocatedoemknockensor1.jpg

Now the OEM Marauder PCV tube is plastic this one is steel and as I said it T off the intake which is a source for high vacuum and high RP M's

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232585162-pcvT.JPG

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232585217-oempsv1.jpg

What I am going to do is replace this tube so I can install a in line separator so no oil can get sucked through the PCV into the intake.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232585371-oilseperator.jpg

[Glenn]

Nice Work Dennis and pictures - very interesting.

Glenn

[Dennis Reinhart]

Here is what Steve has done this week for Rick, we get the car on Monday with a hurt motor, he takes this out, installs a motor with 44k on clock the stock kit on average makes 360 RWHP, with just a few changes the car is totally transformed in appearance as well as power. Now with the relocated knock sensor in the head the car pulls 5 degrees of timing all the time, I have the data log files, I will post them tomorrow, so in reality it is best just to turn them off sense they were never designed nor calibrated to be placed in the back of the cylinder head. The aluminum block was designed for the intake valley, in the Cobra cast block they are turned off because the cast block will generate more false engine knock, there is no calibration table for the 03 Cobra block.

Before.

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http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232419180-engine3.jpg

So with just a few modifications and some TLC look what we have. What some one here complained of a filthy engine bay has changed but it's not looks that count.

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Here is the new SC reservoir installed that doubles it's AF capacity

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rear cooling kit

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[Dennis Reinhart]

Now with just a rear cooling kit, new IAT new Maf, FRP modification this car went from 360 RWHP to 430 RWHP, and I will tell you it could have made much more, I think this is a good kit, but as most of you here know I like Vortech, but to me it is up to you the customer as to what you want what ever it is I can make it happen.

We used a no collapsible 5/8 hose to rep;ace the steel line running fro m the PCV

here is the new oil separator I am sorry it is a bit blurred, no matter it does what we set out to do.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232688124-oilseprator.jpg

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232681321-oempcvrelocate.jpg

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232681616-DYNO.JPG

As I said this car now could make more but I would rather stay on the safe side

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232681717-burnout.JPG

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232681792-iguess.JPG


Now who said this was a filthy engine bay??????

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232681893-TS2.JPG

[1stMerc]

Nicely done Dennis, nicely done

[lastdaze04]

Thats my car???!!!!!! WOW. Totally different animal. Dennis...... You and Steve went way beyond the call of duty. You just didn't switch engines, but did some MAJOR perfomance enhancing work on the car as well as some cosmetic under the hood enhancements. I cannot thank you enough for all that you have done. And I wish you well on your future projects And I thought that you were only a Vortech shop. My Trilogy is now running better than the way it was designed. 431hp :eek::2thumbs:on a totally stock Marauder.:bows:
Thanks again.
Rick

ps Gary will send the video of the burnout when we get home.
thanks

[Dennis Reinhart]

Again Steve has busted but, working on Davids car as well as this one, today he installed the engine and transmission, it is 90% complete we had to install a new belt tensioner, and idler pulley, so today I took one of my cooling reservoirs modified it to replace the smaller one that comes with the kit.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232585682-fiveeithsfiting.jpg

It worked perfect I will clean all this up and get rid of the screw clamps, here is before.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232422887-IMG_2194.jpg

Here is afterword

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232584791-replacmentreservoir.jpg

Here is a good shot of where the knock sensor is relocated at the back of the cylinder head, my goal will to keep this in the intake valley on my Mark 8 Marauder engine with a 03 Cobra Eaton installed. Because it is mounted here, this will give false knock as shown by this data log. How you determine this is look at the knock table, and pull timing in the knock sensor retard table at the specified load a nd RPM range, the do another pull if it pulls the same amount it for sure is false knock'
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http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232584868-relocatedoemknockensor1.jpg

Now the OEM Marauder PCV tube is plastic this one is steel and as I said it T off the intake which is a source for high vacuum and high RP M's

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232585162-pcvT.JPG

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232585217-oempsv1.jpg

What I am going to do is replace this tube so I can install a in line separator so no oil can get sucked through the PCV into the intake.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232585371-oilseperator.jpg

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232742126-trilogyfalseknock.jpg (http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232742269-trilogyko.jpg)

Here is a data log with the knock sensors off, and as you can see no knock pulled, and the car made very safe power. With mid 11 AF

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[BODYMAN]

Once again very nice work Dennis!


Todd

[gpfarrell]

As I said this car now could make more but I would rather stay on the safe side

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232681717-burnout.JPG




I always laugh when I see a "fast" car that is using it brakes to do a good burnout!

[03blackvegas]

Nice job Dennis, my hats off to your team.

[lastdaze04]

here's the video.
After some driving, I love the revised shift points and T.C. lockup! Thanks again Dennis!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUQAt0OJyo&eurl=http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit2&feature=player_embedded

[Dennis Reinhart]

here's the video.
After some driving, I love the revised shift points and T.C. lockup! Thanks again Dennis!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUQAt0OJyo&eurl=http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit2&feature=player_embedded


Thank you for allowing me to do the work on your car.

[lastdaze04]

Gees: After almost 1000 miles and 18+ hrs later I'm home. Just got my car off the trailer and will be going to visit my parents, they live 40 miles away. This will be the 1st long term driving impression.
I will notice 1. real oil pressure, 2. and real boost heh heh heh. Dennis fixed the 1st item with out me being aware of it I pulled the car off the trailer and just happened to look down and noticed that it didn't read 75lbs of oil pressure like it always had weather it was hot or cold.
Cool:banana2: If it needs fixin just do it. I like it:beer:
Thanks Dennis
Rick

[2,4shofast]

Another awesome write up Dennis, thanks for all the info!

[Joe Walsh]

Nice clean set up!

Just one thing I noticed in the photos...
Why does the CAI have the heatshield's open side pointing towards the inside of the engine compartment...right where all the hot air from the radiator blows by?

[Dennis Reinhart]

I always laugh when I see a "fast" car that is using it brakes to do a good burnout!


Well invest in a line lock, and a IAT real time air temp sensor, a real boost FRPS, and you will do even better, and I would be glad to tell you how and or sell you the parts to do this.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Nice clean set up!

Just one thing I noticed in the photos...
Why does the CAI have the heat shield's open side pointing to wards the inside of the engine compartment...right where all the hot air from the radiator blows by?


Because that is the way it came here, and apparently JLT sells it that way, but with the larger reservoir and the heat efficiency gain I am sure it is not much difference

[finster101]

Dennis:

What is the part number and year car for the larger reservoir - sounds interesting for Trilogy owners.

Glenn :burnout:


How is a larger tank going to effect anything?

[stryker]

here's the video.
After some driving, I love the revised shift points and T.C. lockup! Thanks again Dennis!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUQAt0OJyo&eurl=http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit2&feature=player_embedded:cool: !Hmmmm! Nice Burnout I want to that but with my Merc-75 Interceptor.


STRYKER. :burnout:

[CVPete]

Very Nice! Job well done!:beer:

[Dennis Reinhart]

How is a larger tank going to effect anything?


Well it holds moore AF, and you could add ice to it as long as you put a sreen over the inlet of the pump, this will really help heat soak.

[Spectragod]

here's the video.
After some driving, I love the revised shift points and T.C. lockup! Thanks again Dennis!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUQAt0OJyo&eurl=http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit2&feature=player_embedded

From the looks of the video, your trac-loc needs some attention...:burnout:

[O's Fan Rich]

trilogy burnouts....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHzjDMJgBrU&feature=channel_page

some involve brakes....sorry, but my EATON LSD works!!

[Marauder131]

Wouldn't conventional wisdom require a bigger heat exchanger in order to effect coolant temperatures? Merely increasing capacity will be unlikely to have an effect, no? If such an assertion is incorrect, please advise with regard to the temperature drop for the new reservoir. What are the before and after coolant temps?

[Dennis Reinhart]

Wouldn't conventional wisdom require a bigger heat exchanger in order to effect coolant temperatures? Merely increasing capacity will be unlikely to have an effect, no? If such an assertion is incorrect, please advise with regard to the temperature drop for the new reservoir. What are the before and after coolant temps?

Yes this is a very good point, and Grifin makes a larger heat exchanger that has twin cooling fans, Gary Tranvenski also added a real neat exhanger that is huge, and this would really help, I will find a picture and post it, this man was on a very tight budget and we did all we could for him, but the larger reservoir will help.

[Marauder131]

Yes this is a very good point, and Grifin makes a larger heat exchanger that has twin cooling fans, Gary Tranvenski also added a real neat exhanger that is huge, and this would really help, I will find a picture and post it, this man was on a very tight budget and we did all we could for him, but the larger reservoir will help.

I'm not following. How then will the addition of only a reservoir be of any benefit on this particular car?

[Dennis Reinhart]

I'm not following. How then will the addition of only a reservoir be of any benefit on this particular car?

Well I guess if your not following, you can all me any time, and I will make it perfectly clear

[Marauder131]

Well I guess if your not following, you can all me any time, and I will make it perfectly clear

Others on the forum likely have an interest in this topic and would find clarification of benefit also.

[Marauderjack]

Additional coolant will take longer to heat up....AND cool down!!!:cool: Could have some advantage in drag racing??:confused:

For this same reason deep trans pans are of no real advantage except a couple extra quarts of fluid to buy!!!:shake:

[pacammer]

Dennis you did a great job on the trilogy mods. The Knock sensor mods you want to pursue will allow even more torque from the from the motor over a wide rpm range.

Gary

[Dennis Reinhart]

Gary installed this in his car, that has a Vortech in it, and I feel this would also work great with my older water to air units that are still out there as well as KB Marauders, and I think this would be a very good upgrade for a Trilogy kit as well, I did Stu's 04 several years back, he has a JT Trim with a watter to air, and we may try this and at the same time convert his car to a blow through, and go to a T Trim, the reason for that is they make a T Trim in SQ, the JT has helical cut gears and does make more noise., I will post pictures of all this if we go this route.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/Marauder%20after%20first%20sta rtup/Picture-039.jpg

[Master]

Nice looking fan set-up. I remember seeing a system like that for the first time on a stock Lexus, I think it was. Was blown away by the kind of gear the car came with right from the factory.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Now Don at Even flow make a great rear cooling kit, but with this kit it has interference on the passenger side, so I used my rear cooling kit.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232512782-rearcooling.jpg

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232512816-rearcoolingrearleft.jpg

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232512961-rearcoolingmod1.jpg

Now here is my most difficult correction, with this kit, as I said it uses a 03 Cobra lower inner cooler intake, the 03 Cobra is a cast block, and the 03 Cobra does not use knock sensors, the 03 Marauder or Mach 1 uses one, the 04 marauder uses 2, but they are aluminum blocks specifically designed for knock sensors located in the valley of the intake, since the kit uses a 03 Cobra intake, it will not clear the Bose's made into the block so they have to be ground down. and the knock sensor relocated to the back of the cylinder head making it basically useless, since it will pick up cam shaft and valve train noise giving a false spark knock.

Here is the stock knock sensor location

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232513774-IMG_2190_640x480.jpg

Here is a picture of the boss that has to be ground down to clear the lower intake, and the knock sensor has to be removed.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232514251-knockgroundoff.jpg

The knock sensor is then relocated to the back of the cylinder head, this basically renders the knock sensors useless it is not very clear I will post a better picture tomorrow.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232514840-IMG_2211_640x480.jpg

So what I did today is take red grease dab it on the stock knock sensor boss then install the cobra lower intake, and see where interference is, as shown below.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1232515061-intakeinterference.jpg

What I plan to do is take this intake, drill a hole where the knock sensor interference is enclose that with a sort of aluminum cup, and keep the knock sensor where it's at and it should work as designed. More to follow. I will do this on a 03 Marauder motor I am installing in my wifes 98 Mark 8 with a Cora Eaton blower, I would have tried this on this car car but the owner has to be on the road by Friday.:beer:


This the only fault I find with any Eaton kit, removing the knock sensors, I would really like to see if I could modify the inner cooler and keep the knock sensors in place, also add a much larger cooling reservoir as well as a larger heat exchanger with twin fans and a higher volume water pump for the inner cooler.