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04merc
01-16-2009, 11:16 AM
I was told the other day by a Mercury tech that the reason there is a clunk noise whenever I coast the car and then give it gas it clunks, when I accel and then let off, it clunks.

I was told that its because of the "Brass Shift Rings" and that this is a known problem....

Is there such thing in the 4r70w trans?

Blackened300a
01-16-2009, 11:20 AM
Not sure about the brass rings but that sounds more like a bad universal joint.

Local Boy
01-16-2009, 11:23 AM
^^^+1^^^

Bad U-Joint

ALOHA

Bigdogjim
01-16-2009, 12:14 PM
Sure sounds like U-joint to me?

FordNut
01-16-2009, 12:19 PM
...or ring & pinion backlash.

RoyLPita
01-16-2009, 12:36 PM
Shifter blocking rings are made of brass and are only in manual transmissions. Hope this helps a little.

69marquis conv
01-16-2009, 01:54 PM
Maybe there's excessive backlash in the rear differential?

ckadiddle
01-16-2009, 03:05 PM
I hear the klunks too!
















But it's only my brain rolling back and forth inside my head.

Krytin
01-16-2009, 05:43 PM
Sounds like it's time for a new service tech!!

SC Cheesehead
01-16-2009, 07:55 PM
Sure sounds like U-joint to me?

+3

That would be the first thing I'd check.

Aren Jay
01-16-2009, 11:59 PM
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04merc
01-17-2009, 12:03 AM
Shifter blocking rings are made of brass and are only in manual transmissions. Hope this helps a little.


Thats what I thought as well, U joints are brand new, and installed correctly as well as the driveshaft was indexed. The rear is perfect, the clunk sounds like coming from trans...

justbob
01-17-2009, 01:54 PM
I have the same sound and it has always been there, on mine it is just the backlash.

RF Overlord
01-17-2009, 02:17 PM
Sounds like it's time for a new service tech!!Agreed.

Also check the transmission crossmember bolts and the rubber mount.

04merc
02-09-2009, 05:44 AM
Now the car is taking forever to go into reverse. or forward gear..


Like shifting from reverse to drive, it sits there can count till 5 till it engages.

its the same going into reverse.

is this a trait of the infamous 4r70w?

FordNut
02-09-2009, 06:40 AM
Now the car is taking forever to go into reverse. or forward gear..


Like shifting from reverse to drive, it sits there can count till 5 till it engages.

its the same going into reverse.

is this a trait of the infamous 4r70w?

I believe it is a trait of a 4r70w that is about to lay down on you.

ckadiddle
02-09-2009, 10:18 AM
I believe it is a trait of a 4r70w that is about to lay down on you.
Sick torque converter mebbe? :eek:

Krytin
02-09-2009, 12:50 PM
Clogged filter, low fluid, blocked passages, leaking actuator pistons or bad pump.
Combinations of any of the above - it's not normal.

04merc
02-12-2009, 08:59 AM
I figured it wasn't normal due to the fact that it never did this when it was new....

then again, it was rear ended by a dump truck at 1800 when I owned it.

so could have mess somthing in the rear being forced foward, towards the trans... ?

I mean I can rebuild it, I have no problem with auto transmissions done em before. especially the 4r70w...

can I just get one out of a police version crown vic? I'm just gonna rebuild it anyway...

FordNut
02-12-2009, 02:16 PM
I believe it has to be from a Marauder or CVPI. The regular CV has a shorter tailshaft & housing.

04merc
02-13-2009, 10:01 AM
cvpi? is that the intercepter package?

FordNut
02-13-2009, 10:23 AM
Yes........

04merc
02-17-2009, 06:02 AM
So where can I get 1, and a rebuild kit?>

tjg442
02-17-2009, 06:23 AM
now the car is taking forever to go into reverse. Or forward gear..


Like shifting from reverse to drive, it sits there can count till 5 till it engages.

Its the same going into reverse.

Is this a trait of the infamous 4r70w?

told by people when looking for my mm, try to get an 04, that they had a different trans, up-graded from the 03's.
one of the problems, was a clunk in the trans ! Of the 03's ?
at 80000, i had my 04 trans rebuilt, and new pump and plates
installed. "there is a different pump for the 04's" we found out when the parts came in, and had too wait for the newer pump...could be your problem ! Mind you, i said "could be".....hope this helps !!!

04merc
02-20-2009, 09:03 AM
told by people when looking for my mm, try to get an 04, that they had a different trans, up-graded from the 03's.
one of the problems, was a clunk in the trans ! Of the 03's ?
at 80000, i had my 04 trans rebuilt, and new pump and plates
installed. "there is a different pump for the 04's" we found out when the parts came in, and had too wait for the newer pump...could be your problem ! Mind you, i said "could be".....hope this helps !!!


so wait a sec, the trans varied by year? but if the 04 was upgraded from 03, whatever they did for the "upgrade" was pointless if it was to eliminate the clunk.