View Full Version : What Supercharger?
blackrauder
01-22-2009, 06:49 PM
My black 03 Marauder has 71,893 on it and she wants a supercharger, whats up holla at ya boy:help:
ImpalaSlayer
01-22-2009, 06:51 PM
one that goes :whistle:
jdando
01-22-2009, 07:25 PM
Trilogy and do a self-install!
Spectragod
01-22-2009, 07:36 PM
Trilogy......
TiTo35
01-22-2009, 08:33 PM
Come on blackrauder...CAM is biased to Trilogys...:burnout:
blackrauder
01-22-2009, 08:33 PM
Ok I will check it out:burnout::burnout::burnout: :burnout::burnout:
sweetair
01-22-2009, 08:35 PM
Hasn't this been beaten on enough? Go get a rebuilt Trilogy before the price goes up next month.
TiTo35
01-22-2009, 08:45 PM
There's a local guy selling a INCOMPLETE kit blackrauder...hit him up...2ndMDRebel
justbob
01-22-2009, 09:04 PM
Trilogy....
Bradley G
01-23-2009, 05:30 AM
You know my vote :D
2ndMDRebel
01-23-2009, 06:39 AM
Go Trilogy and don't look back! You can have it in original Eaton or the all
new Lysholm twinscrew flavors. Both are designed to work with a stock
drivetrain and will give excellent performance right out of the box without
the need for expensive supporting modifications. Both the Eaton and
Lysholm look like they came from the factory with fit and finish, no ugly
wart hanging off the front of your engine with patchwork piping like some
high school ricer CAI science project gone awry. Best of all you become a
customer of Jerry Barnes with his unequalled proven product support and
the support and comaraderie of over 180 completely satisfied fellow
owners.
Trilogy, accept no substitute!
Trilogy TS-007
What's your number?
m1dn1temarauder
01-23-2009, 06:58 AM
How much is the Trilogy? Is a tune necessary? I just want more(alot more) for everyday driving not the strip.
RR|Suki
01-23-2009, 07:01 AM
Paxton Novi 2000 :banana2::banana2::banana2::ba nana2::banana2::banana2::banan a2::banana2:
MM03MOK
01-23-2009, 07:10 AM
How much is the Trilogy? Is a tune necessary? I just want more(alot more) for everyday driving not the strip.
Considering your location, you'll have to contact Trilogy or Tallboy (member here) directly. The kit comes with a tune based on your kit and other mods you may have.
Dennis Reinhart
01-23-2009, 07:23 AM
The only difference is 1200 dollars and this kit makes about 80 more RWHP, call me any time, I Will be glad to talk to you, about both kits, and if want a Trilogy, I will order you one.
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Thank you Gregg, and the rest of this great community for supporting me, and thank you for all the sales over these many years here.
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High-C
01-23-2009, 08:19 AM
Come on blackrauder...CAM is biased to Trilogys...:burnout:
Not all of us... ;)
no ugly wart hanging off the front of your engine with patchwork piping like some high school ricer CAI science project gone awry.
That's a low blow... Tell us how you really feel. :D
High-C
01-23-2009, 08:21 AM
Paxton Novi 2000
I like your style... :2thumbs:
Hotrauder
01-23-2009, 11:15 AM
If it is important to you to:
1. Get what you pay for in a timely manner with every part complete with an instruction manual that will make it easy to install, service and trouble shoot down the road.
2. Have the back up and support from a company and a team that is 100 percent customer oriented, all the time, even if things go badly.
3. have a system that has a safe tune out of the box for your car and tranny developed by Lidio of Alternative auto.
4. you want a fully streetable machine that passes for stock both behind the wheel and under the hood.
4. have a power delivery curve that fits, instant torque and HP delivery at low RPM where our heavy weight, free breathing high RPM 32 valve engines need help; rather than having to wait for another couple of thousand RPMs for boost...
then
The only answer is Trilogy. Snake oil and a trail of broken promises is not the path to happiness, especially in Marauderville. Ask around. Dennis
Spectragod
01-23-2009, 05:36 PM
I kinda like snake oil, it has many uses, right now I can't think of a good one.....:dunno: I'd just go for the Triolgy.
Raudermaster
01-23-2009, 07:11 PM
If you don't want to spend a lot of cash, go with Dennis' NOIC kit (non-intercooled.) I had one on my Marauder, and I was the 1st Marauder to break well over 400rwhp with the kit. As you can see in my sig, mine made about the same as some cars with an IC. Performance was incredible, and Dennis' emailed tune was almost dead on with the current #'s in my sig.
Raudermaster
01-23-2009, 07:16 PM
4. have a power delivery curve that fits, instant torque and HP delivery at low RPM where our heavy weight, free breathing high RPM 32 valve engines need help; rather than having to wait for another couple of thousand RPMs for boost...
My car had no problems roasting the tires off the rim from a stand still...
Dennis Reinhart
01-23-2009, 07:17 PM
If it is important to you to:
1. Get what you pay for in a timely manner with every part complete with an instruction manual that will make it easy to install, service and trouble shoot down the road.
2. Have the back up and support from a company and a team that is 100 percent customer oriented, all the time, even if things go badly.
3. have a system that has a safe tune out of the box for your car and tranny developed by Lidio of Alternative auto.
4. you want a fully streetable machine that passes for stock both behind the wheel and under the hood.
4. have a power delivery curve that fits, instant torque and HP delivery at low RPM where our heavy weight, free breathing high RPM 32 valve engines need help; rather than having to wait for another couple of thousand RPMs for boost...
then
The only answer is Trilogy. Snake oil and a trail of broken promises is not the path to happiness, especially in Marauderville. Ask around. Dennis
So lets address your comments.
You know Dennis you are a real hoot, I have met you and your wife several times, not once did you come up and look me, look me in the eye, and Say Dennis here is what I find wrong with you, instead you randomly take these cheap shots at me, When I made the joke about you taking a celestial dirt nap, which is a comment from Neal Bortz, I get threatened with banning because I was a owner, well I am not a owner. I am a vendor the owners here have never in the past nor the present taken up for me. What I am stating here is simply the FACTS.
The only answer is Trilogy. Snake oil and a trail of broken promises is not the path to happiness, especially in Marauder. Ask around. Dennis[/quote]
HMMM, snake oil as far as I know, and you think you are the sharpest tack on this site, so tell me Dennis can you find a post where any of my kits were sold with out gear oil as you received yours, and caused a failure.
But you did get a replacement, now lets clear the air.
I think Jerry Barnes makes a good kit, I know as much now about it as I do Vortech or Pro charger.
Lidio is a very good tuner, I have NEVER said different, you on the other hand have said totally different. That is the difference between me and you.
Now Tom sent me his 03 CV I installed a Marauder motor he supplied, Steve worked hard on this car we sent it back and it had some issues but it was tune safe, it went to another tuner and IMHOP exceeded the safe RHWHP, HMMMMM, three months later the motor grenades, and I see this..
Go Trilogy and don't look back! You can have it in original Eaton or the all
new Lysholm twinscrew flavors. Both are designed to work with a stock
drive train and will give excellent performance right out of the box without the need for expensive supporting modifications. Both the Eaton and
Lysholm look like they came from the factory with fit and finish, no ugly
wart hanging off the front of your engine with patchwork piping like some
high school ricer CAI science project gone awry. Best of all you become a
customer of Jerry Barnes with his unequalled proven product support and
the support and camaraderie of over 180 completely satisfied fellow
owners. Oh by the way I called today to buy this kit back.
No where will you find in any of my kits with ugly
wart hanging off the front of your engine with patchwork piping, I will any day post a dyno sheet of any of these two cars, I have proven what simple changes to one kit can accomplish.
I post here because I love this club not to, sway those persons that have a fixed perception of me, nothing I can do or many of you my supporters can say will ever change that, but yes I am in titled to a honest professional opinion that will be of course twisted by the ones I will never make happy nor change there opinion of me. I am doing all I can to improve all aspects of my business, I don't car who's SC you buy all of you can call me any time and I will gladly go over what I know of facts from the best technological data base in the USA concering this platform
Dennis A. Reinhart
Reinhart Automotive
3035 Bravo Court
Orange Park FL 32065
Phone: 904-276-5003 http://www.ReinhartAutomotive.com (http://www.reinhartautomotive.com/)
sd8683
01-23-2009, 07:36 PM
Guys please keep it civil, all the guy was asking for was advice on a supercharger!
In before the LOCK!
Raudermaster
01-23-2009, 07:43 PM
When did you become a mod? :flamer::P I was being honest, he asked for input, and I gave mine.
sd8683
01-23-2009, 07:47 PM
When did you become a mod? :flamer::P I was being honest, he asked for input, and I gave mine.
Jarod I wasn't referring to your post.I was referring to the two Dennis'
I hate to see threads get closed because of ancient history
Raudermaster
01-23-2009, 07:55 PM
True 'dat homey.
Dennis Reinhart
01-23-2009, 08:16 PM
Jarod I wasn't referring to your post.I was referring to the two Dennis'
I hate to see threads get closed because of ancient history
Thank You:beer:
gpfarrell
01-23-2009, 09:10 PM
Well, here's how I made my decision a few years ago.
At the time, one supplier had 140+ kits on the road and everybody that had one seemed to be thrilled with it. Some bolted them on to bone-stock Marauders and were very happy. Others bolted these kits onto modified cars and kept modifying them further and were very happy.
Out of 140+ gearheads who spent serious cash, nobody seemed disappointed.
Then I read every post I could find from the vendor and his demeanor seemed professional & helpful.
Then I bought his kit and self-installed it with just a bit of help from a friend onto my bone-stock and now the car exceeds every hope I had for it, while still having "manners" that absolutely exceed the OEM threshold.
I can't say the quality matches OEM Ford stuff. I think it exceeds the OEM BMW stuff on my BMW... right down to the Bosch intercooler pump.
Do homework. Read old posts. Google MotorCityMarauders and see if anything turns up.
I'm thrilled with what I got... and it says Trilogy on it.
Good luck, and have fun with whatever fast Mercury you build.
Fourth Horseman
01-23-2009, 09:55 PM
I love how we've never been able to have a supercharger conversation on this forum without somebody take a cheap shot or being a tool. :bs:
This forum gets less and less relevant all the time.
Raudermaster
01-23-2009, 09:57 PM
I love how we've never been able to have a supercharger conversation on this forum without somebody take a cheap shot or being a tool. :bs:
This forum gets less and less relevant all the time.
Agreed. The man asked for input, not for bashing people. We have all contributed (well some) as to what the original poster asked for and that's all we can do I guess.
2ndMDRebel
01-23-2009, 11:27 PM
Oh no you di'int! :mad:
Now Tom sent me his 03 CV I installed a Marauder motor he supplied, Steve worked hard on this car we sent it back and it had some issues but it was tune safe, it went to another tuner and IMHOP exceeded the safe RHWHP, HMMMMM, three months later the motor grenades, and I see this
Do you even remember my car? Your "tune safe" nearly got me killed because it kept stalling out. Try getting stuck in a highway crossover because your car starts and stalls, starts and stalls, starts and stalls. Your "richer idle" and "leaner idle" email tunes and "I'm trying"s just weren't fixing it. I had to go to Philadelphia and get a driveable tune from JD Performance. The other tuner for the car was Lidio nine months later, we bumped it up to 12psi and 504rwhp and the car ran what, over 15 months perfectly fine with quite a few 1/4 runs at that power level. The engine was SEIZED, not grenaded, teardown showed a bent crank and destroyed oil pump, I was running the race fuel tune with questionable gas, end of story, my bad. If I had any thought whatsoever that Lidio was somehow at fault, as you seem to be insinuating, then I would not have gone back to him.
You're damn right you saw it, now see it again...
Go Trilogy and don't look back! You can have it in original Eaton or the all
new Lysholm twinscrew flavors. Both are designed to work with a stock
drive train and will give excellent performance right out of the box without the need for expensive supporting modifications. Both the Eaton and
Lysholm look like they came from the factory with fit and finish, no ugly
wart hanging off the front of your engine with patchwork piping like some
high school ricer CAI science project gone awry. Best of all you become a
customer of Jerry Barnes with his unequalled proven product support and
the support and camaraderie of over 180 completely satisfied fellow
owners.
How about a little louder now...
Go Trilogy and don't look back! You can have it in original Eaton
or the all new Lysholm twinscrew flavors. Both are designed to
work with a stock drivetrain and will give excellent performance
right out of the box without the need for expensive supporting
modifications. Both the Eaton and Lysholm look like they came
from the factory with fit and finish, no ugly wart hanging off the
front of your engine with patchwork piping like some high school
ricer CAI project gone awry. Best of all you become a customer
of Jerry Barnes with his unequalled proven product support and
the support and camaraderie of over 180 completely satisfied
fellow owners.
in color!
Go Trilogy and don't look back! You can have it in original Eaton
or the all new Lysholm twinscrew flavors. Both are designed to
work with a stock drivetrain and will give excellent performance
right out of the box without the need for expensive supporting
modifications. Both the Eaton and Lysholm look like they came
from the factory with fit and finish, no ugly wart hanging off the
front of your engine with patchwork piping like some high school
ricer CAI project gonr awry. Best of all you become a customer
of Jerry Barnes with his unequalled proven product support and
the support and camaraderie of over 180 completely satisfied
fellow owners.
Oh by the way I called today to buy this kit back.
Why do you say it like that, you're the "big man" now? Look, it isn't a bad power adder, I had alot of fun with it once it was tuned right and no, the looks aren't horrible, actually got some compliments on it at the track, lets just say I stretched it a good bit, kinda like this...
I post here because I love this club
Ain't buying it, you post here because this is all you have to draw people in, Trilogy was run off this site, FIT was run off this site, leaving YOU as the sole source of s/c goodies for new people to see. What other car sites are you welcomed at? Face it, you need this site to keep your doors open. Zack was a good little attack dog until he bit the wrong hand and got himself euthanized, too bad, I was starting to like that pooch towards the end.
not to, sway those persons that have a fixed perception of me, nothing I can do or many of you my supporters can say will ever change that, but yes I am in titled to a honest professional opinion that will be of course twisted by the ones I will never make happy nor change there opinion of me. I am doing all I can to improve all aspects of my business, I don't car who's SC you buy all of you can call me any time and I will gladly go over what I know of facts from the best technological data base in the USA concering this platform
I have to admit Dennis, your "boxed" x-cal tune for the stock CV rocked, that and the bolt-on goodies made the car alot faster than I thought it could be, and that Friday I put the 3.73 gears and trak-loc in without thinking about the tune and you emailed me an updated file so I could go racing that night, it just blew me away. The unfortunate stuff happened after that when the conversion was done, that wasn't perceived it was experienced. I had a bad experience, some others have great experiences, some others still not so great or downright horrible. I still get puddles of drool on the keyboard seeing some of the project cars rolling out of your place. I can't help it, its a car nut thing. For me though, having owned the Vortech and the bad memories that initially went with it and now the Trilogy with exemplary service and function from Jerry/Lidio I simply prefer the feel and aesthetics of the Trilogy, its a completely different experience all around and one that I would highly recommend to anyone seeking to supercharge their vehicle. Its simply my humble opinion, I'm calling it as I've lived it.
Off to bed... :sleepy:
SC Cheesehead
01-24-2009, 08:13 AM
Oh no you di'int! :mad:
:Offtopic:
blackrauder posts a thread about which supercharger to buy, and it devolves into DR bashing again.....:shake:
Hotrauder
01-24-2009, 10:27 AM
Dennis A. Reinhart
Reinhart Automotive
"So lets address your comments.
You know Dennis you are a real hoot, I have met you and your wife several times, not once did you come up and look me, look me in the eye, and Say Dennis here is what I find wrong with you, instead you randomly take these cheap shots at me, When I made the joke about you taking a celestial dirt nap, which is a comment from Neal Bortz, I get threatened with banning because I was a owner, well I am not a owner. I am a vendor the owners here have never in the past nor the present taken up for me. What I am stating here is simply the FACTS.
The only answer is Trilogy. Snake oil and a trail of broken promises is not the path to happiness, especially in Marauder. Ask around. Dennis"[/quote]
HMMM, snake oil as far as I know, and you think you are the sharpest tack on this site, so tell me Dennis can you find a post where any of my kits were sold with out gear oil as you received yours, and caused a failure.
But you did get a replacement, now lets clear the air.
I think Jerry Barnes makes a good kit, I know as much now about it as I do Vortech or Pro charger.
Lidio is a very good tuner, I have NEVER said different, you on the other hand have said totally different. That is the difference between me and you."
Dennis, I thought that the dirt nap post was funny, still do. Obviously I am in not a position to bann you. And I have never stated that you received cover from the other owners...didn't for a second think it was necessary. I am not sure what this means: "Lidio is a very good tuner, I have NEVER said different, you on the other hand have said totally different. That is the difference between me and you." However, Dennis; the differences between you and me are many but the first ones that come to mind are...I have been banned from this web site, for statements critical of your business practices.....I have not been banned from every other meaningful automotive web site because of my business practices... and finally I have never had to hire lawyers to force a web site, "The Truth About Reinhart" off the internet despite the fact that they were reporting the truth.
More to the point, Dennis; I agree. There is way to much bashing of Vendors on this web site. I suggest that those vendors who perceive opinion and truth as bashing just might be the ones in charge of repairing their business ethics and changing the paradigm. Just a thought. Dennis
Spectragod
01-24-2009, 03:59 PM
Uhh, ummm, wow, all I can say in response is......in before the lock.
blackrauder
01-24-2009, 07:46 PM
Listen here ladies and gentleman, i made this post it was no intended to be a bashing of any type. People have there own opinions and thats jus what they are and nothing else. LETS KEEP IT CIVIL PLEASE!!
O's Fan Rich
01-24-2009, 07:57 PM
Listen here ladies and gentleman, i made this post it was no intended to be a bashing of any type. People have there own opinions and thats jus what they are and nothing else. LETS KEEP IT CIVIL PLEASE!!
I have Trilogy #132.
I have never questioned that decison to buy it.
blackrauder
01-24-2009, 08:05 PM
How do I get a Trilogy, there site acts weird.
RR|Suki
01-24-2009, 08:33 PM
How do I get a Trilogy, there site acts weird.
go to : http://www.motorcitymarauders.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=34
O's Fan Rich
01-25-2009, 06:19 AM
How do I get a Trilogy, there site acts weird.
You can also PM Tallboy, or talk to Wes Chain at Innovative Interceptors, a vendor on this forum.
Get one soon, prices go up shortly......
Master
01-25-2009, 06:59 AM
How does that work? Recession, companies crying for orders, sales incentives everywhere you look, raw material costs coming down, employer's market (first time since about 1995) and prices are going up? What gives?
Bradley G
01-25-2009, 07:09 AM
It's that good!
The price of the kit has not changed since it was incepted (2003) except for a once in a lifetime specials.
How does that work? Recession, companies crying for orders, sales incentives everywhere you look, raw material costs coming down, employer's market (first time since about 1995) and prices are going up? What gives?
scruff
01-25-2009, 12:53 PM
I,m running with a Vortech V3 Air to Air kit from DR on my P71 all in all this setup works very well the only thing i dont like is when its time to change the drive belt it is a pita, I would like to try a roots style blower someday perhaps when this set up blows up or if i can find an extra $5 grand to play with lol
Marauder131
01-25-2009, 01:35 PM
As there is a considerable investment involved when purchasing a kit, the best advice I can give is to investigate all options thoroughly prior to committing to a purchase. Educate yourself with regard to the features of each style of kit, but also with regard to the customer service record and reputation of the vendors offering the kits. If a particular vendor has a consistantly poor track record in this area, there is usually a reason why, which might be a good forewarning. Conversely, if a vendor has an unblemished reputation, it is likely resultant from having an excellent commitment to outstanding customer service. I do know that Trilogy makes an outstanding product and has unrivaled customer service.
Taemian
02-24-2009, 04:11 PM
Trilogy all the way, in my experience. (Kit #170 here.) There are at least 174 MM Trilogy kits in service last I checked. I think there are 3 or 4 MM turbo kits, and a dozen or so MM centrifugal kits like those from DR in service. Anyone is free to correct my numbers if they're out of line.
The numbers alone should speak volumes to you.
And I have never received better customer service than from Trilogy. Ever.
bigmerc2003
02-24-2009, 05:16 PM
So Blackrauder what did you do or where are you going????
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