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CKMustangCobra
01-27-2009, 08:05 AM
I searched and found nothing... except rear window molding replacement.

Ok... on my trip home I closed my window and I heard wind... like a break in the seal. I look at my window and it closed but it looks like it might be off track or something.

I think it might need a new regulator. I haven't taken it apart yet.

Anyone have some instructions? Price on parts? Could it just wiggled out of alignment and alls I have to do it reset it and tighten it back down?

Thanks.

wchain
01-27-2009, 10:07 AM
Regulators are a pain in the arse.

They are riveted in. HAve to drill the rivets out of the door skin as well as the glass. I used bolts to replace the rivets.

You'll need a punch and drill, or a grinder and a socket set and a new regulator.

Remove the door panel, unplug the connections for the switches and put it out of the way.

Help push the glass down with the motor so you can see where the glass mounts. Use a grinder or punch and drill to remove the rivet. Next, remove the bolt that holds the felt glass channel and work the glass out of the door, and put it somewhere out of the way safe.

Next, you'll want to locate the rivets for the window regulator and motor. IIRC there are 2 10 or 11 mm nuts that hold the top part of the regulator on, and rivets elsewhere (for the motor and regulator) Pop them all out.

Remove the motor from the old regulator, and install on the new one. Install the regulator/motor assy back into the door mount the bolts and replace the riveted areas with new rivets or nuts and bolts with lockwashers. Plug the connector in for the motor, and work the glass bakc into the door, lining it up with where the new window regulator slide is.


Make sure you have the washers and nylon clamps in the right order, and then install new rivets or bolts.

Replace the bolt that holds the felt stripping back in place, but dont tighten it until the window has rolled up and down without binding or sticking.

Roll the window up and down, making sure there is no binding.

Replace door panel.

If you can't find the regulator around you, we carry driver side regulators for 48.99 + shipping, lifetime warranty.

CKMustangCobra
01-27-2009, 10:11 AM
Damn... I was hoping it was going to be easy like a new F150. Crap... ohh well. I can do it... I have plenty of tools and such. I just wanted to see if there were any tricks.

Thanks.

jfclancy
02-01-2009, 08:05 AM
Well sad to say common problem back when mine went out ,it was easy.
drove to the dealer and it was fixed when i picked it up 3 days later.
UNDER Warranty. WHEW

Best of luck

Joe Clancy:beer::beer:

JimmyXR7
02-01-2009, 09:11 AM
[quote=wchain;710118]Regulators are a pain in the arse.

They are riveted in. HAve to drill the rivets out of the door skin as well as the glass. I used bolts to replace the rivets.

You'll need a punch and drill, or a grinder and a socket set and a new regulator. . .

What he said and I have some other tips.

Be extra carefull removing the door panel. (broken panels will rattle)
Have an assistant available for holding the window up when re-installing the unit. (easier than braces or supports)

Jim

RoyLPita
02-01-2009, 01:17 PM
I've done regulators before. To me they are a piece of cake.

finster101
02-01-2009, 02:49 PM
A word of caution here. If you use bolts instead of rivets to secure the window to the regulator be sure and use nylock nuts on the bolts so that you only have to snug them up. DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN THE BOLTS ON THE WINDOW or you will be buying a new one. I strongly suggest using rivets to secure the window. I have seen more that one tech shatter the glass.

CKMustangCobra
02-01-2009, 03:19 PM
I pulled it apart... everything looked normal and the window has been functioning properly. Now i have my mental roadmap of the job. Doesn't look bad at all.

I have a big rivet gun... I will reuse rivets since I have a **** load of them that I will never use elsewhere.

Drock96Marquis
02-06-2009, 01:14 AM
Some pictures to go along with Wes' great description:
http://www.angelfire.com/tn/troupers/window.html
*Courtesy Trouper @ CVN

Door panel removal:
http://www.crownvic.net/drock96marquis/03+doorpanelremoval.htm

CKMustangCobra
02-06-2009, 06:37 AM
Some pictures to go along with Wes' great description:
http://www.angelfire.com/tn/troupers/window.html
*Courtesy Trouper @ CVN

Door panel removal:
http://www.crownvic.net/drock96marquis/03+doorpanelremoval.htm

Thanks for the links. Good info. Looks like that guy had his drill bit walking all over the place. LOL

CKMustangCobra
02-06-2009, 06:41 AM
I just checked out your site, Drock.....


WOW. All I can say. Awesome job.

paheff
11-08-2009, 05:07 AM
I've done regulators before. To me they are a piece of cake.
I've got to say, after I got finished ranting about the idiot @ Ford who decided to use rivets, and got down to actually doing the job, you are right....piece of cake. Took a couple of hours, max.

Lenore
05-13-2015, 05:58 PM
Do you have to take the glass out to replace e rear window regulator? It looks like the window is blocking it coming out. If it has to come out how hard is it to manage?

fastblackmerc
05-13-2015, 06:07 PM
Haven't done the rear yet but the front glass has to come out to replace the regulator.

tbone
05-13-2015, 08:17 PM
Youtube has videos on doing it.

Lenore
05-13-2015, 08:34 PM
Videos for the rear window?

therealrogers
05-13-2015, 08:37 PM
http://youtu.be/Ivnt6Ifj06A


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fastblackmerc
05-14-2015, 08:21 AM
I've replaced at least 100 (probably more) window regulators on customers and MY personal vehicles.

My method.

NEVER NEVER NEVER... one more time... NEVER use rivets to attach the windows to the regulator. Just a little bit of extra pressure and you'll be buying a new glass. The rivets used are 1/4 and take a special tool to install.

To remove the existing rivets:

Punch out the center shaft / mandrel head of each rivet.
There are typically 3 "ears" on the back of the rivet, use either needle nose or diagonal pliers to bend them back and forth until they snap off.
You can now pull the rivet out by working your diagonal pliers under the head and twisting to remove it.


If you drill or grind the rivets to remove it you take the chance of slipping and breaking the glass.

Reinstalling the regulator / window:
Use 1/4-20 bolts, Nyloc nuts and thread locker. I use them only all the attaching points. You can tighten the regulator to door bolts as tight as you want but only tighten the regulator to window bolts enough so the window is not loose. Too tight and you'll be looking for a new window.

Remember to remove any debris from inside the door before you put the panel on.

I'd also recommend replacing the regulator and motor as a unit. Not that much more expensive and you'll save yourself a big headache... just ask Dom.

tbone
05-14-2015, 09:23 AM
Videos for the rear window?

There's a video on youtube for everything. There's probably one on how to search youtube for the how to videos you're looking for.....:rolleyes:

Crown Vic, Grand Marquis, Town Car. All the same for years and years.

tbone
05-14-2015, 09:28 AM
I have a new OEM switch panel coming today because my driver's window is inop.
I have a feeling that it is the motor, but got the switch anyway because the one I had was a Chinese knockoff and the express down didn't always work right.

After a 2 minute search, I found this video on youtube showing how to change out JUST the motor, not the regulator, which I have no interest in doing or paying for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nq2YKrHnJg

fastblackmerc
05-14-2015, 10:05 AM
I have a new OEM switch panel coming today because my driver's window is inop.
I have a feeling that it is the motor, but got the switch anyway because the one I had was a Chinese knockoff and the express down didn't always work right.

After a 2 minute search, I found this video on youtube showing how to change out JUST the motor, not the regulator, which I have no interest in doing or paying for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nq2YKrHnJg

That video shows the old style motor and GEAR. Yes they were very easy to change. You can't do that easily with the new style motor and CABLE system.

This video shows how to replace reculator and motor assembly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZmZKJrudo0

fastblackmerc
05-14-2015, 10:06 AM
Video on replacing the rear regulator assembly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivnt6Ifj06A

tbone
05-14-2015, 12:00 PM
That video shows the old style motor and GEAR. Yes they were very easy to change. You can't do that easily with the new style motor and CABLE system.

This video shows how to replace reculator and motor assembly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZmZKJrudo0

I just looked up the window motor and regulator on RockAuto and read the instructions for 1992-2010 CV and GM. The Town Car in the video I linked is exactly the same.

I would rather save $30 and the extra time and just change the motor.

tbone
05-14-2015, 03:17 PM
Got the new switch. Still inop. Took off the door panel. Could feel the motor trying to move. Took it off, turns fine. The regulator is stuck. Ordering a new one along with the motor for good measure.

tbone
05-14-2015, 03:40 PM
That video shows the old style motor and GEAR. Yes they were very easy to change. You can't do that easily with the new style motor and CABLE system.

This video shows how to replace reculator and motor assembly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZmZKJrudo0

Thanks for posting this one.

Lenore
05-21-2015, 09:36 PM
Well I have had to work on the regulator in my spare time and I have not had a lot lately. Just to refresh it is the rear passenger side door. I have the new regulator in but not attached to the window yet. The window regulator is working fine but the track looks twisted all the way at the top (when you run it till the end of the track upward it looks twisted). I think it will not be a problem because when the glass is attached it will not run all the way up. Any thoughts? Also, the best way to get the molding to go back in after putting the window back in