Econoline DRLs

[Peter]

Does anyone know how to disable the DRLs on a 2009 Ford Econoline?

[BAD MERC]

If it has a LCM or SJB then they are probably softwared in. Some can be programmed on/off (Ask Carfixer) or do some homework at www.lightsout.org (http://www.lightsout.org) which is a website that campaigns against DRL's. I paid $195.00 for a new SJB for my 2006 Taurus to delete the DRL's. As a motorcyclist - I do not wish to see them on cars.

[Peter]

If it has a LCM or SJB then they are probably softwared in. Some can be programmed on/off (Ask Carfixer) or do some homework at www.lightsout.org (http://www.lightsout.org) which is a website that campaigns against DRL's. I paid $195.00 for a new SJB for my 2006 Taurus to delete the DRL's. As a motorcyclist - I do not wish to see them on cars.

On 2005 to Current E-Series vehicles, the DRL's can be disabled by placing a Normally Closed 12 Volt Isolation Relay in circuit 294 (White with Light Blue stripe) near the DRL module and triggering the relay open. The DRL module is located on the passenger side of the grill area in front of the radiator.

The "current" is out of date. The instructions listed above do not work for a 2008+ Econoline.

[larryo340]

There's a very good chance that they can be disabled thru the OBD port, but I think it only can be done with a Ford scan tool. My buddy wanted them enabled on his '08 Expedition our local dealer enabled them for $20.
I can't say for sure if that can be done for your '09.

[ImpalaSlayer]

what are DRL's?

[CROWNMARAUDER]

what are DRL's?

Daytime running lights.

[n00bkiller944]

what are DRL's?

Daytime Running Lights.

What do people have against DRL's? I haven't heard this whole campaign against them...

[n00bkiller944]

Ah, he beat me to it! lol

[ImpalaSlayer]

oh. that would annot me also. theres no need for lights when its daylight out

[BAD MERC]

DRL's kill any defense that motorcyclists WOULD HAVE had. They are a waste of electricity and headlight bulbs.I find that generally idiots and asswipes are tricked into thinking their headlights are on at night and cruise down the road oblivious to the fact that they have no lights on.

[Raudermaster]

I best not say anything, someone yelled at me on here for saying DRL's are a waste.

[n00bkiller944]

DRL's kill any defense that motorcyclists WOULD HAVE had. They are a waste of electricity and headlight bulbs.I find that generally idiots and asswipes are tricked into thinking their headlights are on at night and cruise down the road oblivious to the fact that they have no lights on.

Not to sound ignorant, but how do they kill any motorcyclists defense?

[BAD MERC]

Not to sound ignorant, but how do they kill any motorcyclists defense?
You're kidding right? A motorcycle stands out in traffic with the glaring headlight. A sea of DRL's kinda defeats that attention-getting feature. Ya think?

[ImpalaSlayer]

You're kidding right? A motorcycle stands out in traffic with the glaring headlight. A sea of DRL's kinda defeats that attention-getting feature. Ya think?


i didnt understand what you were getting at either

[BAD MERC]

i didnt understand what you were getting at either
Oh- I see. You catch my drift though.

[ImpalaSlayer]

i do now that you elaborated :up:

[n00bkiller944]

You're kidding right? A motorcycle stands out in traffic with the glaring headlight. A sea of DRL's kinda defeats that attention-getting feature. Ya think?

No, I wasn't kidding. Sorry if I offended you, but now I get your point. :2thumbs:

[larryo340]

Like my Harley buddies say:

http://www.just4bikers.net/images/lpsl_mousepad_7k1m.jpg

Not taking anything away from motorcycle safety, in my opinion any vehicle with lights on during the day is more visible to others.


Hold on a second................I'm getting my flameproof suit on.

[Raudermaster]

Not taking anything away from motorcycle safety, in my opinion any vehicle with lights on during the day is more visible to others.
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I don't see your point at all. It's the daytime, not night. There are no need for lights to be on, unless you're in a parking garage, or a dark lighted area where you could potentially hurt someone. Also too if it's daytime and you get a thunderstorm where there is no light and seems to almost be night, then I use my lights. If the damn foreign car manufactures never started this trend, we would never have these, and no one would know what the hell they are.

[ctrlraven]

I see way too many idiots driving around at night with their auto DRL's on and none of their rear lights. They need to make it an auto system like our car, I've even come across my Aunt driver her 2007 Toyota Corolla at night with just the DRL on. I had to explain to her that the setting she had them on was just for daytime, you actually have to turn the switch to the ON position.

I usually drive with my lights on during the day. Just been habit after taking a bunch of NHTSA classes.

I personally don't think their a waste of a bulb cause there have been several times that the DRL is what caught my eye of a vehicle in a blind spot or somewhere where I wanted to move to.

9 out of 10 times that I see bikes with them on is cruisers and Harley type of bikes, idiots on street bikes "crotch rockets" usually never have a light on and if they do their already moving to fast to even see it.

[larryo340]

I don't see your point at all. It's the daytime, not night. There are no need for lights to be on, unless you're in a parking garage, or a dark lighted area where you could potentially hurt someone. Also too if it's daytime and you get a thunderstorm where there is no light and seems to almost be night, then I use my lights. If the damn foreign car manufactures never started this trend, we would never have these, and no one would know what the hell they are.

:confused: Do you realize that DRL's are not for the driver, they're for drivers of other vehicles to see YOU !! :shake:


I see way too many idiots driving around at night with their auto DRL's on and none of their rear lights. They need to make it an auto system like our car, I've even come across my Aunt driver her 2007 Toyota Corolla at night with just the DRL on. I had to explain to her that the setting she had them on was just for daytime, you actually have to turn the switch to the ON position.

I usually drive with my lights on during the day. Just been habit after taking a bunch of NHTSA classes.

I personally don't think their a waste of a bulb cause there have been several times that the DRL is what caught my eye of a vehicle in a blind spot or somewhere where I wanted to move to.

9 out of 10 times that I see bikes with them on is cruisers and Harley type of bikes, idiots on street bikes "crotch rockets" usually never have a light on and if they do their already moving to fast to even see it.

^^^ very well said :)

[ctrlraven]

http://www.osram.com/osram_com/Consumer/Automotive_Lighting/See_and_be_seen/LIGHTDAY/Frequently_asked_questions/index.html#answ43


Safety risk

Question

Is there a higher safety-risk for motorcyclists because of more daytime running light?
Answer

Daytime running light has been limited to motorcyclists up to now to give them better protection through better visibility. This is why some voices have been raised who were worried that the introduction of daytime running light would lead to a deterioration of the present situation.
Such thinking assumes that the use of daytime running light by motorcars and trucks diminishes the perception of motorized two-wheeled vehicles and that an early visibility of these vehicles would therefore suffer. Extensive research, carried out in Lower Saxony e.g., has shown that a broad use of daytime running light offers additional safety to all road users. It is a proven fact that a vehicle with light is always caught more quickly by the human eye than a vehicle without light. This means that motorcyclists are now able to see other road users earlier, too, and this is an advantage which can help to avoid many motorcycle-accidents.

What is decisive is: everyone is seen better, no one is seen worse than before. And what is more: it is especially the weak road users (such as pedestrians and users of two-wheeled vehicles) who are able to see dangers (cars) more quickly.

[Raudermaster]

:confused: Do you realize that DRL's are not for the driver, they're for drivers of other vehicles to see YOU !! :shake:


Uh, yea, but like other's have said at night time when the tool's forget to turn their real lights on, you do NOT see them.

[Shora]

Uh, yea, but like other's have said at night time when the tool's forget to turn their real lights on, you do NOT see them.

It is the driver's responsibility to turn on the lights at night. Should they "forget" to turn them on (like many often do:mad2:) DRL really help other drivers see them from the front and the reflectors help from the rear.

Should they forget to turn on their lights and they don't have DRL, they are almost like a black invisable missle. It really is scary to see cars using the road at night with NO lights on.

If I had a choice, I would rather share the road with a fool who has DRLs than one who doesn't.

[larryo340]

Uh, yea, but like other's have said at night time when the tool's forget to turn their real lights on, you do NOT see them.

While I agree that some idiots will drive at night with just the DRL's without realizing it you will be able to see them coming towards you.

As far as I know that on most if not all Ford products there are no dashlights when just the DRL's are on. With that said if someone drives at night and does not notice that the dash is dark then that person probably shouldn't be driving in the first place.

I'd like to add, that as much as I hate to admit it I like what General Motors is doing using bright amber lights in the front for the DRL's. That actually could solve some of the issues some have against DRL's such as motorcyles, DRL's being too bright, and the few that drive at night without the headlights turned on.