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Motorhead350
02-09-2009, 12:30 AM
Well yesterday I heard a very strange noise coming from under the hood. It wasn't quite a knock, but when running you could tell something was making an odd noise. Turns out my blower had little to no oil left in it. I took it to Zack and he confirmed that I need to replace a few parts, but we didn't (or at least to me) conclude that this was just because of lack of oil in the supercharger.

To those of you who do not know what I have, it's a Procharger.

As soon as we put in new oil, it pretty much leaked right back out from somewhere around the back pully's or something. The only maintance I was aware that I ever had to do was change the blower oil every 10,000 miles. I have followed the instructions and it's lead me to a problem. Could this have been due to driving it in the winter with the metals going from -17 to whatever the temperature of the engine was when it was hot?

I have no idea what I did wrong, or it could be that Procharger just isn't the best quality.

Anyone have a clue?

BTW do not tell me it's because I didn't buy Trilogy, but if someone says this is a common this with Procharger please explain.

Thank you and a big thank you to Zack for dealing with me. :)

offroadking208
02-09-2009, 12:32 AM
sir, that's rough. If you need a ride to louisville, you know where to find me tho. Or if you need help wrenching some weekend, same deal, lol. Just get her back out on the road

Motorhead350
02-09-2009, 12:40 AM
It's on the road, I just fear it's gonna bust a nut though the hood! :help:

Marauderjack
02-09-2009, 05:09 AM
Recommended oil change interval is...6000 miles!!!!:shake:

You should check it every couple weeks Dom since only 4 to 6 ounces is used and nearly ALL ProChargers "weep" a little from the impeller seal!!:cool:

I change mine every 5000 miles since that is when I do the engine oil and filter....mine weeps enough to leave a slight film on the bottom of the blower but never has been off the dip stick or required adding oil between changes!!!:shake:

You can buy rebuild kits but I suggest you send it out to ProCharger for rebuild since they will warranty the repair!!:beer: They also spray a "Moly" coating inside!!:cool:

Good Luck!!

Marauderjack:burnout:

Pat
02-09-2009, 05:57 AM
Dom;

I think it's just a random failure, don't beat yourself up about it. Hope the warranty will cover the repair.

Zack
02-09-2009, 06:16 AM
As I told Dominick when he was right in front of me, the rear seal was pouring oil out of it when I flipped the blower upside down.

Bad seal= lack of oil= bye bye bearings.

I already found the bearings and seal and it will run about $160-$200 for me to rebuild it.
Luckily the bearings did not get bad enough for the impeller to contact the housing.

FordNut
02-09-2009, 06:43 AM
Yep, rear seal... In my case, it would get destroyed every time I threw a belt because the belt fragments would wrap around the shaft and rub the seal.

O's Fan Rich
02-09-2009, 07:21 AM
Dom, now that you know the problem, and how to solve, along with knowledge on how to prevent it in the futur,

I gotta be me...

It's because you didn't buy a TRILOGY!!!!!

Ha... hahahahah......ha!!!

Pops
02-09-2009, 07:56 AM
Dom, now that you know the problem, and how to solve, along with knowledge on how to prevent it in the futur,

I gotta be me...

It's because you didn't buy a TRILOGY!!!!!

Ha... hahahahah......ha!!!

Spell Check! :D

Haggis
02-09-2009, 08:31 AM
It's because you didn't buy a TRILOGY!!!!!

Ha... hahahahah......ha!!!

Which trilogy did you want him to buy?

Lord of the Rings

Underworld

Bourne Identy

Rambo

Joe Walsh
02-09-2009, 08:36 AM
Which trilogy did you want him to buy?

Lord of the Rings

Underworld

Bourne Identy

Rambo.....no go on this one Gordon....

There were 4 Rambo movies.

BTW: The last Rambo (2008) was great to watch on DVD because you could slow-mo the .50 Cal scenes!...:2thumbs:

Haggis
02-09-2009, 09:09 AM
There were 4 Rambo movies.

BTW: The last Rambo (2008) was great to watch on DVD because you could slow-mo the .50 Cal scenes!...:2thumbs:

Was that Rambo or Gramp-bo?

Vortech347
02-09-2009, 10:11 AM
Needs a minor rebuild. Sounds like Zack has you taken care of.

My Vortech has about 20k on it and I think its due for a seal replacement, its got a tiny bit of oil on the back fo it.

PantherP71
02-09-2009, 10:12 AM
Which trilogy did you want him to buy?

Lord of the Rings

Underworld

Bourne Identy

Rambo

You forgot 'Back to the Future'.
;)

scruff
02-09-2009, 10:42 AM
A fellow racer friend of mine once told me that prochargers are crap he says they always fly apart sooner or later. Vortech is a better product

MERCMAN
02-09-2009, 10:50 AM
You forgot 'Back to the Future'.
;)


And The Godfather

Blackmobile
02-09-2009, 10:53 AM
A fellow racer friend of mine once told me that prochargers are crap he says they always fly apart sooner or later. Vortech is a better product

Not to be too offending but that's a serious load, if I ever heard it. Tell that to MarauderTJA, John Nero and others. Procharger seem to be kicking some serious A$$ down here in the lower 48.

Ed

Zack
02-09-2009, 11:13 AM
Surfing the car forums all these years, I always read of more prochargers being rebuilt than Vortechs.
Just sayin!

scruff
02-09-2009, 11:16 AM
Well i don,t doubt you there blackmobile all i,m saying is that they seem to break more offten then a Vortech. The racer i was refering to is a famous 5.0 mustang driver in Canada Joe Dasliva

Master
02-09-2009, 11:19 AM
Joe DaSilva, Modified Mustangs and Fast Fords tech guru. Nice fellow, too, from the time I've spoken to him. Could probably put a lot of weight in his words as he has built more mustangs than just about anyone in Canada from what I can tell.

Blackmobile
02-09-2009, 11:22 AM
Well then I Guess I'm glad to own a Vortech. :D

DOOM
02-09-2009, 11:25 AM
Hope to see you running soon dom! :burnout:

Zack
02-09-2009, 11:29 AM
I forgot if the blower is a p600b or a p1sc.
Whatever comes standard in the kit.
Help!

RR|Suki
02-09-2009, 11:33 AM
I forgot if the blower is a p600b or a p1sc.
Whatever comes standard in the kit.
Help!

p1sc is what I remember it being :beer:

Motorhead350
02-09-2009, 12:11 PM
Yep, rear seal... In my case, it would get destroyed every time I threw a belt because the belt fragments would wrap around the shaft and rub the seal.

Now we know why. I have broke at least 3 belts with this kit. :mad:

RR|Suki
02-09-2009, 12:19 PM
Now we know why. I have broke at least 3 belts with this kit. :mad:

:eek: don't you have like a 3.50" pulley or something? why were you breaking belts like that?

Motorhead350
02-09-2009, 12:22 PM
:eek: don't you have like a 3.50" pulley or something? why were you breaking belts like that?

Whatever comes standard is what I have. Now one belt was worn out, another got ruined because I broke the tensioner and another one wasn't properly installed.

I know have to change another because it looks like this one is about to go too.

Embassy
02-09-2009, 12:24 PM
Whatever comes standard is what I have.

3.70" pulley.

RR|Suki
02-09-2009, 12:30 PM
man that's rough, maybe invest some time in adding spacer washers or something, pretty wild that you are burning up belts so fast on such a big pulley

Pops
02-09-2009, 12:31 PM
man that's rough, maybe invest some time in adding spacer washers or something, pretty wild that you are burning up belts so fast on such a big pulley

Sounds like something is not aligned right Dom. You need to look it over. I agree with the quote above!

RF Overlord
02-09-2009, 12:50 PM
^^^what they said^^^

I'm sure Zack will check all the alignments when he fixes you up...

Zack
02-09-2009, 01:51 PM
Everything is aligned just fine.
When you have oil leaking onto the belt, it reaks havoc.

Marauderjack
02-09-2009, 03:32 PM
A fellow racer friend of mine once told me that prochargers are crap he says they always fly apart sooner or later. Vortech is a better product

P1SC impeller is rated at 60,000 RPM's and they advise not to exceed that...EVER!!:shake: With the 3.7 Pulley the Impeller RPM's are 10X the engine so at 6,000 RPM's you are at the max for the blower.....we ALL know the Marauder will hit the 6,700 RPM rev limiter very often on hard 1st gear romps!!!:eek:

I have 110,000 miles on my blower with a rebuild due to a noisy bearing at 63,000 miles.....I now have 47,000 miles on the rebuild and so far it is fine!!!:bows:

I'll have to say that I am well please with the durability of the ProCharger and their CS folks are first class!!:beer:

Don't know a thing about Vortec except I was not going to drill a hole in my oil pan to install one....PERIOD!!!:shake: I understand they now offer a self contained unit like the ProCharger??:confused:

IF I had it to do over I'd go with a Trilogy since the aesthetics are so much nicer....more OEM looking!!:beer:

ANY of them will break if you let them run out of oil or continuously over-rev them!!:help:

Motorhead350
02-09-2009, 04:45 PM
Sounds like an easy fix. I cannot wait to get it together for KY! :)

CBT
02-09-2009, 04:57 PM
Sounds like an easy fix. I cannot wait to get it together for KY! :)

Dang Dom, you havn't had enough road trip already this year?! ;)

Motorhead350
02-09-2009, 04:58 PM
Dang Dom, you havn't had enough road trip already this year?! ;)

Ya driving to KY will be a "Cakewalk" now. :D

scruff
02-09-2009, 05:57 PM
I hear ya Marauderjack if i was to do it all over again i too would swap out the vortech for a roots style blower that being said i,m still happy with my V3 setup

Embassy
02-09-2009, 07:41 PM
Sounds like an easy fix. I cannot wait to get it together for KY! :)

Glad another FIT Marauder will be present.

Motorhead350
02-09-2009, 09:23 PM
I'm getting ready for the "Drewstang" :rolleyes:

Local Boy
02-09-2009, 10:21 PM
Mine is doing just fine...Thank you...

Used...3.6 pulley...11lbs boost...No re-builds...no seal issues...no belt issues...

Tearing it up, in the ALOHA State...

ALOHA

Fourth Horseman
02-09-2009, 11:45 PM
Don't know a thing about Vortec except I was not going to drill a hole in my oil pan to install one....PERIOD!!!:shake: I understand they now offer a self contained unit like the ProCharger??:confused:


Yup, the Vortech V3s are self lubed. That's what I have on my car and so far so good.

Motorhead350
02-10-2009, 01:18 AM
If the blower required drilling a hole into the oil pan it might have costed me more than a blower if I didn't catch the problem in time. :eek:

Marauderjack
02-10-2009, 04:40 AM
Mine is doing just fine...Thank you...

Used...3.6 pulley...11lbs boost...No re-builds...no seal issues...no belt issues...

Tearing it up, in the ALOHA State...

ALOHA


You GO Randy!!!:beer::bows::D

RR|Suki
02-10-2009, 08:35 AM
Oh you big babies my pan has been drilled since spring 03 and it's all fine and dandy :P

Blackened300a
02-10-2009, 08:51 AM
Which trilogy did you want him to buy?

Lord of the Rings

Underworld

Bourne Identy

Rambo

What about , Smokey and the bandit (even though the 3rd sucked), The Evil dead, and Spiderman. :D

Motorhead350
02-10-2009, 01:35 PM
Well I'm F-ed.

n00bkiller944
02-10-2009, 01:36 PM
^^^How so?

O's Fan Rich
02-10-2009, 01:41 PM
you make zack mad.....?

Motorhead350
02-10-2009, 02:17 PM
Zacks research has concludded that I cannot buy just the parts I need, they come in packages. Even if Zack did it, it would still amount to the cost of having Procharger rebuild it themselves. Looks like I'll have to shell out a lot more than I care to or can afford to at this time.

The Marauder is sitting.

CBT
02-10-2009, 02:19 PM
Zacks research has concludded that I cannot buy just the parts I need, they come in packages. Even if Zack did it, it would still amount to the cost of having Procharger rebuild it themselves. Looks like I'll have to shell out a lot more than I care to or can afford to at this time.

The Marauder is sitting.

How much you need? I was going to donate to the site anyway...:rolleyes:

O's Fan Rich
02-10-2009, 02:30 PM
Zacks research has concludded that I cannot buy just the parts I need, they come in packages. Even if Zack did it, it would still amount to the cost of having Procharger rebuild it themselves. Looks like I'll have to shell out a lot more than I care to or can afford to at this time.

The Marauder is sitting.

Check around on other sites, like svtperformance, modular fords, mustang sites....
maybe get a hold of Greg..........

Motorhead350
02-10-2009, 02:38 PM
Check around on other sites, like svtperformance, modular fords, mustang sites....
maybe get a hold of Greg..........

I cannot find Gregs contact info.

CBT I was about to donate too until I got a $200 parking ticket and now a major problem with the car. Thank you for the offer. I'll see how bad this is from maybe another source or two before I make any decisions.

n00bkiller944
02-10-2009, 02:53 PM
^^^Sorry man :( What car are you driving now?

O's Fan Rich
02-10-2009, 03:01 PM
I cannot find Gregs contact info.

CBT I was about to donate too until I got a $200 parking ticket and now a major problem with the car. Thank you for the offer. I'll see how bad this is from maybe another source or two before I make any decisions.

Last post I ever read of his was over there.....

Marauderjack
02-10-2009, 03:11 PM
Dom,

Call ProCharger and talk to Shannon O'Connor....he will fix you up and possibly do yours for free as he did mine.....no guarantee and of course ProCharger never offered any warranty for our FIT kits since they didn't engineer them!!:shake:

Give it a try....you might be pleasantly surprised!!??:cool:

Good Luck!!

Marauderjack:burnout:

Motorhead350
02-10-2009, 03:21 PM
Dom,

Call ProCharger and talk to Shannon O'Connor....he will fix you up and possibly do yours for free as he did mine.....no guarantee and of course ProCharger never offered any warranty for our FIT kits since they didn't engineer them!!:shake:

Give it a try....you might be pleasantly surprised!!??:cool:

Good Luck!!

Marauderjack:burnout:

Why was yours done for free?

Mine is out of warranty as of eight months ago. :mad:

n00b I am riding the train right now. All my cars are broken again. Maybe I should just change the starter on the K5 eh?

Marauderjack
02-10-2009, 03:25 PM
'Cause I'm cool and talked nice to the folks at PC....try it sometime...you'll be surprised how far you can get!!!!!:cool:

If you bought it from Gregg he might be able to help!!:confused:

Drewstang
02-10-2009, 04:12 PM
I'm getting ready for the "Drewstang" :rolleyes:
Oh yeah Dom? :D

Motorhead350
02-10-2009, 04:45 PM
Oh yeah Dom? :D

That's right. I will have an extra mod in my mirrors that say Objects in Mirror are Drewstang. :P

Motorhead350
02-10-2009, 05:15 PM
Looks like Zacks phone call is the best bet so far. www.superchargerrebuilds.com

:D

MarauderTJA
02-10-2009, 05:46 PM
A fellow racer friend of mine once told me that prochargers are crap he says they always fly apart sooner or later. Vortech is a better product

Totally DISAGREE. I have had four Prochargers on my cars over the years and four years on my Marauder. Never, ever a problem.

Motorhead350
02-10-2009, 05:56 PM
How many belts have you gone though and did they ever do any damage?

MarauderTJA
02-10-2009, 06:44 PM
How many belts have you gone though and did they ever do any damage?

When I put the built motor in I was breaking tensioners from the power. I had to replace one belt. Did no damage to the seal. I did send the blower back to Procharger but to have it upgraded from a P1SC to a D1SC and had new seals put in it during the upgrade.

MarauderTJA
02-10-2009, 06:45 PM
Dom, if you did break a belt and it wrapped around the back of the blower you probably caused seal damage. That can happen with any centri blower.

Motorhead350
02-10-2009, 09:01 PM
Dom, if you did break a belt and it wrapped around the back of the blower you probably caused seal damage. That can happen with any centri blower.

I do remember that happening, but I didn't know it would cause this.

Richy04
02-10-2009, 09:36 PM
Here is Gregs email, he answered me right away and is still making kits if anyone is interested. Richy

greg@msg-llc.com

Motorhead350
02-10-2009, 10:41 PM
Thank you.

Motorhead350
02-11-2009, 12:57 PM
He just told me to call Procharger. :shake:

Zack
02-11-2009, 12:59 PM
He just told me to call Procharger. :shake:


What did you want?

Marauderjack
02-11-2009, 03:45 PM
Just call Shannon at ProCharger Dom and ASK FOR :help: !!!!

O's Fan Rich
02-11-2009, 04:03 PM
Just call Shannon at ProCharger Dom and ASK FOR :help: !!!!

He's not gonna listen to you MJ.......

Marauderjack
02-11-2009, 04:17 PM
I don't get it Rich....kids.....Grrrrrrrrrrrr rrrr!!!:argue:

O's Fan Rich
02-11-2009, 04:27 PM
You got too many miles on your car to know what you're talking about, MJ.....

Marauderjack
02-11-2009, 05:02 PM
I guess you're right Rich!!!:alone::depress:

Motorhead350
02-11-2009, 05:23 PM
What did you want?

I don't know, but I didn't wanted to be pointed into the same direction.

I have three choices right now...

1. Procharger Rebuild $600ish

2. Rebuild by another company $475

3. Buy the Ebay one rebuilt by Procharger $800

I am very tempeted by option number two, but number one is going back to the company and you know it will be 100%, then again number two is cheaper and they promise a good rebuild, then again being cheap has always costed me more...

I'll make a decision in a few days.

Anyone wanna buy my soul? The line for the Devil is too long. :depress:

bigmerc2003
02-11-2009, 05:38 PM
I don't know, but I didn't wanted to be pointed into the same direction.

I have three choices right now...

1. Procharger Rebuild $600ish

2. Rebuild by another company $475

3. Buy the Ebay one rebuilt by Procharger $800

I am very tempeted by option number two, but number one is going back to the company and you know it will be 100%, then again number two is cheaper and they promise a good rebuild, then again being cheap has always costed me more...

I'll make a decision in a few days.

Anyone wanna buy my soul? The line for the Devil is too long. :depress:

If Zack recomends sending it to procharger I would do that, remeber when its cheaper in the beginning it is way more expensive in the long run, plus if procharger rebuilds it oyu know they will do it right an maybe give it some sort of warranty? or at least if there is somehting wrong after you get it back they should stand behind their product to make it right. I have done way to many things the cheap way and ended up haveing to spend twice as much in the long run. good luck and I hope it is back up and running asap!

BigCars4Ever
02-11-2009, 05:41 PM
Zack, Motorhead How about this???
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p3907.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI% 26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D15%26po%3D LVI%26ps%3D54&item=250370957738&category=33741&viewitem=#ht_500wt_961

BigCars4Ever
02-11-2009, 06:21 PM
Sorry, re-reading the posts I see you already contacted this outfit. My bad.

Motorhead350
02-11-2009, 06:29 PM
I contacted them reguarding them fixing it, not doing it myself or with Zacks help. I think this will save me even more money! I need options on this one...

Guys, girls? What do ya think?

Blackmobile
02-11-2009, 06:56 PM
If they do the rebuild, they will probably warrantee the work.

Motorhead350
02-11-2009, 06:59 PM
If they do the rebuild, they will probably warrantee the work.

I called them and they do not, but they said nothing should go wrong.

Zack
02-11-2009, 07:51 PM
I think Procharger uses a higher quality bearing than what is offered by the superchargerrebuilds.com

Local Boy
02-11-2009, 09:57 PM
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ALOHA

Motorhead350
02-11-2009, 10:24 PM
I think Procharger uses a higher quality bearing than what is offered by the superchargerrebuilds.com

Can anyone confirm this?

They said they do Prochargers, but again going with them means it will probably no longer have Procharger parts.

Marauderjack
02-12-2009, 06:04 AM
And......if their repair fails miserably you will more than likely destroy the impeller and/or housing so........a new head will run you $2500 or so.....OR you can buy a used one and REPEAT this process over and over!!!!:mad2:

Marauderjack:shake:

O's Fan Rich
02-12-2009, 06:07 AM
And......if their repair fails miserably you will more than likely destroy the impeller and/or housing so........a new head will run you $2500 or so.....OR you can buy a used one and REPEAT this process over and over!!!!:mad2:

Marauderjack:shake:

JACK!!! STOP!!

You're just hurting yourself........

Marauderjack
02-12-2009, 06:10 AM
I'm kinda likin' this......goin' for #3400 in this thread.......I'm nuts!!!:help:

Motorhead350
02-12-2009, 03:08 PM
Oh ya Rich I see now.

Well I wanna rebuild it, but Zack isn't sure on the quality so I'm kinda left here waiting for an answer if that rebuild company is any good or not.

Pops
02-12-2009, 03:11 PM
Send it to ProCharger and quit wasting time! They made it and know the most about it plus will have parts on the shelf. Time to grow up Dominic!

Zack
02-12-2009, 03:12 PM
In case anyone was wondering, Dominick does not have a credit card.

Get a credit card and send the damn thing to procharger so we can put this topic to bed.

Pops
02-12-2009, 03:13 PM
Send it to me and I will get it fixed on my CC! Oh yea I plan on keeping oit when it is done.;)

O's Fan Rich
02-12-2009, 03:14 PM
In case anyone was wondering, Dominick does not have a credit card.

Get a credit card and send the damn thing to procharger so we can put this topic to bed.

Send them a Money order for the base quote, along with the unit... then if there is a balance, send them another!

Pops
02-12-2009, 03:16 PM
That works also. Maybe I can pay the balance and keep it!

+ 1


Need two more!

Zack
02-12-2009, 03:17 PM
You could always buy a used Vortech kit.


...but the wait is over 4 months for a used kit :eek:

Joe Walsh
02-12-2009, 03:18 PM
Any of the suggested solutions are just that: SOLUTIONS!

Dom seems to want this problem to hang around for a long time.

Dom, As was stated many times already; Send it to Procharger!

Would you take a broken 4.6 DOHC to a Chevy dealer and expect them to do a great rebuild!?!?....and guarantee it??

Pops
02-12-2009, 03:19 PM
Did someone say used! I may have one of those for sale soon!

Send it to Procharger.

+1 makes 2600

sd8683
02-12-2009, 03:26 PM
In case anyone was wondering, Dominick does not have a credit card.

Get a credit card and send the damn thing to procharger so we can put this topic to bed.


No credit card!! What's the matter Dom?!?! Ya don't wanna be in debt like the rest of the country???:D

Joe Walsh
02-12-2009, 05:00 PM
No credit card!! What's the matter Dom?!?! Ya don't wanna be in debt like the rest of the country???:D


You are right, by design or not, Dom is probably better off without credit cards!
That will be the next financial crisis...lots of people defaulting on maxed out credit cards...:(

Sorry for the Thread Hijack.

Motorhead350
02-12-2009, 06:39 PM
I didn't exactly want the word getting out that I have zero credit, but now that everyone knows it's because I don't trust myself. Things are tight and all credit card companies want to you to do is screw up anyway. I have been told it's a lot better to be broke, than have some cash in your bank with $100,000 in debt.

It's a nice feeling knowing I don't owe a thing to anyone and I have zero debt. Almost everyone my age is in the hole (BIG TIME) and adults seem to be a little worse. So everything I have I own, it doesn't own me.

Now sending it to Procharger would be my best move and I agree with everyone. I guess I have to get it done right. I have some things lined up, but for right now it looks like the car will have to sit. :alone:

That's life!

If car problems are my biggest problems right now, that ain't **i*!

bigmerc2003
02-12-2009, 06:46 PM
Can anyone confirm this?

They said they do Prochargers, but again going with them means it will probably no longer have Procharger parts.

You can take you car to a chevy dealer and have work done, but do you want to? If i were in your situation I would spend the dough and sent it to procharger. I mean they build them everyday!! They designed the unit so they should do the best work with the best parts. And PS get a credit card and establish a credit history!!!

Zack
02-12-2009, 06:51 PM
I could put your car back to NA this Sunday in 3 hours or less for $50.

bigmerc2003
02-12-2009, 06:52 PM
I didn't exactly want the word getting out that I have zero credit, but now that everyone knows it's because I don't trust myself.
It's a nice feeling knowing I don't owe a thing to anyone and I have zero debt. Almost everyone my age is in the hole (BIG TIME) and adults seem to be a little worse. So everything I have I own, it doesn't own me.

Now sending it to Procharger would be my best move and I agree with everyone. I guess I have to get it done right. I have some things lined up, but for right now it looks like the car will have to sit. :alone:

That's life!

If car problems are my biggest problems right now, that ain't **i*!

Do you have a debit card for your checking account? I use my credit card like my debit card, I dont spend more than I have in cash so at the end of the month I completely pay off the card! (sorry the finance guy in me coming out) Oh and get a good rewards card too that way you can get some gift cards or something! Good luck with everything

Zack
02-12-2009, 06:58 PM
After we return it to stock, Ill pull it apart and if its not bad, Ill take a stab at fixing it.

n00bkiller944
02-12-2009, 06:59 PM
^^^Do it DOM!

Motorhead350
02-12-2009, 07:01 PM
I could put your car back to NA this Sunday in 3 hours or less for $50.

Isn't this guy the best! ^^^^^

I might have to do that for the time being. I'm going to fix my truck and see if that helps my mobility. If I still do not have the blower fixed within 3 weeks of KY I think I will take it to you and have it back to "Lame Mode". Does it need to be tuned and can you make it over here? I don't wanna damage the blower anymore and I'll cover your gas and food on top of $50.

Just a thought.

Or we can put it back to N/A for now and the blower back on when it's ready. That's what I really wanna do, but I think it would be annoying to you to work on the car twice. Let me know Zack.

Motorhead350
02-12-2009, 07:02 PM
OK well that makes the decision clear.

Zack what time can I see you sunday, do you think I can actually drive the car to you and I know you are an early riser so can I see you in the morning?

:D

Zack
02-12-2009, 07:05 PM
OK well that makes the decision clear.

Zack what time can I see you sunday, do you think I can actually drive the car to you and I know you are an early riser so can I see you in the morning?

:D

Just drop it off Saturday, or be at the house by 10am.
If you are late, Im going to work on my own car and you will be SCREWED. :D

And yes you will have the blower on for Kentucky.

Motorhead350
02-12-2009, 07:13 PM
See you at 10am.

Now I gotta fully disable the interior lights in the K5.

I don't understand what I have done to aquire all this kindness... really. Most people think I'm a grouch.

Zack
02-12-2009, 07:20 PM
No one said I liked you. :eek:

justbob
02-12-2009, 08:37 PM
BTW, you can take a Dodge that Dodge can't fix to Ford to get it done right the first time!!! I had to do this once.

bigmerc2003
02-13-2009, 08:38 AM
BTW, you can take a Dodge that Dodge can't fix to Ford to get it done right the first time!!! I had to do this once.


This is true! I would not even let Dodge change the air in my tires! My phase came from a client that just took her Town Car in for service at a Chevy Dealer :eek:!

Motorhead350
02-17-2009, 02:13 PM
According to Zack it's not horrible, but recomends I send it in.

I'll pick it up and send it off soon I hope.

Embassy
03-07-2009, 06:22 PM
Now my front cover seal is leaking. :shake:

Thankfully, I've been searching forums and hopefully the part is available locally at Napa for a few bucks.

PantherP71
03-07-2009, 06:26 PM
Now my front cover seal is leaking. :shake:

Thankfully, I've been searching forums and hopefully the part is available locally at Napa for a few bucks.

That sucks Steve.
Hopefully you get her running tip top.

FordNut
03-07-2009, 06:36 PM
Fortunately the seal can be replaced without removing the timing cover. Make sure it's the seal instead of the bolt. You gotta put sealant on the bolt or it will leak.

Embassy
03-07-2009, 06:38 PM
Fortunately the seal can be replaced without removing the timing cover. Make sure it's the seal instead of the bolt. You gotta put sealant on the bolt or it will leak.

Thanks, Brian.

It might very well be the bolt since it seems to orignate around one.

If I get her out tomorrow, I'll drive her a bit and take some pics of the leak.

It's not the seal next to the pulley but on the opposite side of the head unit, with the impeller and downpipe. Can this seal be picked up locally?


Anyone have an exploded view of the P1SC head unit?

Thanks.

Motorhead350
03-10-2009, 12:39 PM
I don't think I will be doing business with Procharger anymore. I always liked the Roots style more anyway, just not the noise. :burnout:

Joe Walsh
03-10-2009, 12:45 PM
I don't think I will be doing business with Procharger anymore. I always liked the Roots style more anyway, just not the noise. :burnout:

I'm not sure that Roots style blowers last too long when they are run without oil either.

Zack
03-10-2009, 12:47 PM
Thanks, Brian.

It might very well be the bolt since it seems to orignate around one.

If I get her out tomorrow, I'll drive her a bit and take some pics of the leak.

It's not the seal next to the pulley but on the opposite side of the head unit, with the impeller and downpipe. Can this seal be picked up locally?


Anyone have an exploded view of the P1SC head unit?

Thanks.


That seal (if leaking) requires a complete teardown and should be done by a pro. And you cant get that seal from NAPA. Only Procharger and SuperchargerRebuilds.com.

You sure its not the pcv system? Oil by the impeller of a snail is 100% normal.

Zack
03-10-2009, 12:48 PM
You and FordNut are talking about 2 different things BTW

Motorhead350
03-10-2009, 12:53 PM
I'm not sure that Roots style blowers last too long when they are run without oil either.

I would think anything that requires oil and doesn't have the proper amount would malfunction too. I am glad we think a like. ;)

Embassy
03-10-2009, 04:34 PM
That seal (if leaking) requires a complete teardown and should be done by a pro. And you cant get that seal from NAPA. Only Procharger and SuperchargerRebuilds.com.

You sure its not the pcv system? Oil by the impeller of a snail is 100% normal.

I took a couple of pics of where I'm finding oil trickle out.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/714089/fullsize/img_5618-(large).jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/714088/fullsize/img_5617-(large).jpg


It apparenlty only seeps out under WOT boost. Drove the car 20 miles home from the dyno with no leaks at all.

Also spoke to Supercharger Rebuilds today. They added the "front cover o-ring" to their price list after our discussion. I am assuming that is what I need.

ImpalaSlayer
03-10-2009, 04:39 PM
that thing is way too clean Steve, i dig the vlalve covers

Embassy
03-10-2009, 07:07 PM
that thing is way too clean Steve, i dig the vlalve covers

Thanks. :beer:

I found this pic:
http://www.superchargerrebuilds.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/p1scpieces.jpg

I am guessing that I would need the gasket for the component in the upper right hand corner. Correct?

If so, is that the one they are selling on Supercharger Rebuilds?

I am in a crunch to get this done by the Kentucky Meet.

Marauderjack
03-11-2009, 04:05 AM
No gasket on the impeller housing......ridge fits in a groove on the main body allowing the impeller housing to rotate for different applications!!:beer:

Seeing a small amount of oil around and underneath the blower is normal (weeping) according to Shannon at ProCharger......he says most of them weep from the impeller seal but not enough to require adding oil between changes!!:shake: Also, make sure you are not over filling it.....DO NOT use a whole bottle (6 ounces) of oil...only use about 4 ounces so it is 3/4 of the way up the black part of the dipstick!!! ;)

Mine leaks about a half ounce in 5K miles.....very little but remember a little oil makes a BIG mess!!:argue:

Just check your level on the dipstick every week or so to verify you don't have a major leak requiring a rebuild!!:cool: