Bfg 245/55/zr18

[Dennis Reinhart]

I can put my hands on six of these for 250.00 EA PS

[Dennis Reinhart]

I can put my hands on six of these for 250.00 EA PS


We are down to 4 I just sold 2

[ctrlraven]

$250 each? Good lord.

[RoyLPita]

$250 each? Good lord.

....exactly.

[Zack]

Its called sticking the customers in the ass.

If I was a vendor, I wouldnt even sell them at that ridiculous price.

[SC Cheesehead]

Its called sticking the customers in the ass.

If I was a vendor, I wouldnt even sell them at that ridiculous price.

Zack, without knowing how much Dennis has to cough up for the tires, it's hard to say who's being gouged.

Got to agree, though, that $250 is too much for crappy BFG's.

[Zack]

Zack, without knowing how much Dennis has to cough up for the tires, it's hard to say who's being gouged.

Got to agree, though, that $20 is too much for crappy BFG's.

Doesnt matter, all this is gonna be deleted.

[DTRMiguel]

I can get them for $190 if it matters :D

[TiTo35]

$250 american???

Gatdamn!!!

[Dennis Reinhart]

Zack, without knowing how much Dennis has to cough up for the tires, it's hard to say who's being gouged.

Got to agree, though, that $250 is too much for crappy BFG's.


Exactly Zack is just being himself, I don't work in a nursing home. I have my business to run to earn my living.There are six left in the United States, on the other coast. I have to pay for shipping, then subtract credit card fees so I make Little next to nothing, except Zack's same old foul mouth, I spent two hours on the phone, so again this is just sickening the remarks that are totally unwarranted totally unprofessional, has any one else found these?? I don't think so, if there to high you will have to wait till July or longer with no assurance even then if you will get them. I will not delete his post that is up to the moderators to make that choice.

[bigmerc2003]

Price gouging, go with a different brand that will not go bald in the middle in 10,000 miles!

[Dennis Reinhart]

I can get them for $190 if it matters :D


Well that is far better than I was quoted, I tried Tire Rack they have 0 I found these from a company I do not have a account with so you get them, many need them here, Mercman needs a set to Make Louiville, I will cancil the order. I was told none were available till I found six today, again all I was trying to do is help, every buisness has to have a mark up in your case 190 = 237.50 retail would be even higher plus shipping but if you can help out please do.

[freakstatus]

Exactly Zack is just being himself, I don't work in a nursing home. I have my business to run to earn my living.There are six left in the United States, on the other coast. I have to pay for shipping, then subtract credit card fees so I make Little next to nothing, except Zack's same old foul mouth, I spent two hours on the phone, so again this is just sickening the remarks that are totally unwarranted totally unprofessional, has any one else found these?? I don't think so, if there to high you will have to wait till July or longer with no assurance even then if you will get them. I will not delete his post that is up to the moderators to make that choice.

I actually thought he meant BFG. This price would be for the true enthusiast who wants to remain stock I guess. I myself am looking at 255/55/18 options.

[bigmerc2003]

I actually thought he meant BFG. This price would be for the true enthusiast who wants to remain stock I guess. I myself am looking at 255/55/18 options.

Plus 1, I read it as BFG sticking it to us.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Tire Rack sells them for 167.00 PS, I just spoke to them but they said they have no assurance they will be getting any in June.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Dan Mercman has contacted the NHTRA what I would suggest is we start a petition so every member here can sign it, and send it to NHTRA and Ford, this is the only hope we can get some thing done, look at the 98 Mark 8 Sylvania quit selling the bulb for the HID headlights in 97, now Mark 8 owners have to buy a retro kit for 1000.00 and it is not HID, its the same here and our cars are not even six years old.

[Zack]

Exactly Zack is just being himself, I don't work in a nursing home.

And its a damn good thing you dont.
There are 114 residents here that cant wait 4 months for wheelchair bearings.

[Bluerauder]

I can put my hands on six of these for 250.00 EA PS

$250 each ----- BOHICA on the 100% mark-up. I'll pass.

[bigmerc2003]

:laugh::rofl: He opened the door for that one:popcorn:



And its a damn good thing you dont.
There are 114 residents here that cant wait 4 months for wheelchair bearings.


And the headlight thing was a legit safety thing! How can you see at night without headlights, and it was within the 3yr warranty! We are now 6-7 years old well past the bumper to bumper ford gave us and even in the warranty period ford would not have replaced them they are a part meant to wear out. Give up on the tire thing and get a different brand. Or sign me up on a petition to get back some polyglass tire (the originals tire not and reproduction new technology crap). I want my flat spots and poor tire wear and no steel belts! same thing, tires change all the time, brands are dropping sizes all the time. Who would want to make tires for 11,052 cars that only need 2 of them?

[DTRMiguel]

Well that is far better than I was quoted, I tried Tire Rack they have 0 I found these from a company I do not have a account with so you get them, many need them here, Mercman needs a set to Make Louiville, I will cancil the order. I was told none were available till I found six today, again all I was trying to do is help, every buisness has to have a mark up in your case 190 = 237.50 retail would be even higher plus shipping but if you can help out please do.

Ill call my guy tomorrow and make sure they are still available. This was nearly 2 weeks ago he quoted this. But W/O shipping!

[bigmerc2003]

xopher


Don't let friends drive stockers:
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh118/xopherwhite/marauder%20general/tire.jpg

[Blackened300a]

I have several tire connections here in NY. I'll see what I can find.

No matter what, $250 befoire shipping is obsene for crappy BFG tires.

[Hotrauder]

The stock BFG's suck out loud at any price. At $250 you can buy any number of real tires that perform to the capability of our Marauders. When ever there is a shortage of anything, good bad or indifferent there will be opportunists out for a buck. Not implying that DR is doing that but for half the $250 there are tires you can buy that are better performers than the BFG's. Dennis

[Bigdogjim]

Price gouging, go with a different brand that will not go bald in the middle in 10,000 miles!

I got 32,000 miles oout of my first set of rears, 38,000 off the fronts.

[bigmerc2003]

The stock BFG's suck out loud at any price. At $250 you can buy any number of real tires that perform to the capability of our Marauders. When ever there is a shortage of anything, good bad or indifferent there will be opportunists out for a buck. Not implying that DR is doing that but for half the $250 there are tires you can buy that are better performers than the BFG's. Dennis

We all need to get over the fact that BFG is sticking it too us, but again from a business stand point, who would want to keep and entire tire siz line open for 22,000 tires (2 tires per 11,000 cars) and many of the marauders dont use the bfg's so cut that back 25% to 16,500, and then cut that back further because we dont need tires every year! Some people can get 3 years out of tires ( I am not one of them) so they would need to make 8,000 tires per year????? It is not profitable and there are not enough of us to make a dent. thanks to many members here we have a tire matrix that lists out all of the possbile tires sizes on stock and widened rims with different sizes to keep our ABS and traction in check. Does this make me mad like the others, yup but its life with these cars, there just is not enough of us to catch the attention we need.

[ctrlraven]

Why don't people just upgrade to a 255/55-18? That should of been the tire that came on the car to start with, really helps with the rake stance plus some meaty traction in the rear.

Dennis, I wasn't complaining about your price for the tires, I was just saying that's a lot. Push comes to shove if someone needs them they will pay for them. I run BFG 255/55-18 kdw2 tires and paid a pretty penny for four of them but I had to have them.

[rayjay]

What happened to Cheby running this exact tire on the new Camaro? They must have read the threads here on crappy performance and went elsewhere. $250 for those POS tires is way out of line. Spend that $250 on a set, yes 2 of Nitto's 420S, you won't be dissatisfied. BFG, friggin crooks.

[Bluerauder]

Why don't people just upgrade to a 255/55-18? .
Yep, looks like my next set will be the BFG KDW in the 255/55ZR18 size. Maybe before Kentucky.

Best I have ever gotten out of the rears is 21,000 miles. 36,000 on the fronts.

[Peter]

...And here I am thinking that the $190 per rear OEM tire was a bad price. The plus side was that it was local and in stock. I already regret not getting it.

[rayjay]

...And here I am thinking that the $190 per rear OEM tire was a bad price. The plus side was that it was local and in stock. I already regret not getting it.

Go with the Nittos in 255/55/18. You won't be disappointed. A bunch of us are running them here w/out any problems. They are plain & simple better than OEMs. My speedo is also dead on, radar verified.

[bigmerc2003]

Go with the Nittos in 255/55/18. You won't be disappointed. A bunch of us are running them here w/out any problems. They are plain & simple better than OEMs. My speedo is also dead on, radar verified.

2 questions for you:
1) how are they in snow and rain (you are talking about the 420's right?)
2) I would like to hear how you got your speed "radar verified":rofl:

[Peter]

Go with the Nittos in 255/55/18. You won't be disappointed. A bunch of us are running them here w/out any problems. They are plain & simple better than OEMs. My speedo is also dead on, radar verified.

Do the Nittos have a matching front and rear tire size?

[Dennis Reinhart]

And its a damn good thing you dont.
There are 114 residents here that cant wait 4 months for wheelchair bearings.


I am so glad you posted this Zack, so tell us you are the maintenance manger in this nursing home, and lets say back in 2003 and 2004 the company you work for bought ten thousand dollars Worth of wheel chairs, and after five years the wheel bearings wore out, and you called the manufacture, and he said I am sorry we are all out of stock, and we no longer sell these wheel chairs with this type of wheel bearing, so what are you to do, throw the wheel chairs away, and pull the patients around on bed sheets, so a company goes on the Internet and they find some company that has a source of these discontinued bearings, and yes when brand new they sold for 30.00 a piece but this company has to make some profit to cover shipping and credit card charges it is not there fault that the company they found knows they are the only source for these bearings, and they have to pay what the company is offering, so do you post up and say you are sticking it it in the ears of the elderly feeble senior citizens and you have no right to make a small profit. If you did you would not be employed there long. I would just do what I could do to resolve the problem, and that is what I tried to do. And if any one can help us find these tires any cheaper please post up.

[rayjay]

2 questions for you:
1) how are they in snow and rain (you are talking about the 420's right?)
2) I would like to hear how you got your speed "radar verified":rofl:


1) Great in rain, no experience in snow as I had a dedicated snow package for winter. We have real winters here.

2) My own personnel.

For Peter, no they do not, but it looks just fine and the combination handles very well for daily use.

[bigmerc2003]

I am so glad you posted this Zack, so tell us you are the maintenance manger in this nursing home, and lets say back in 2003 and 2004 the company you work for bought ten thousand dollars Worth of wheel chairs, and after five years the wheel bearings wore out, and you called the manufacture, and he said I am sorry we are all out of stock and we no longer sell these wheel chairs with this type of wheel bearing, so what are you to do, throw the wheel chairs away and pull the patients around on bed sheets, so you go on the Internet and you find some company that finds a source of these discontinued bearings, and yes when brand new they sold for 30.00 a piece but this company knows they are the only source for these bearings, so they have them marked up to fifty dollars, do you post up and say you are sticking it it in the ears of the elderly feeble senior citizens. If you did you would not be employed there long. I would just do what I could do to resolve the problem, and that is what I tried to do.

:pill:


Try one!

And Zack would by new wheel chairs because after 6 years they would be worn out and the old people deserve better!!:laugh:

[bigmerc2003]

1) Great in rain, no experience in snow as I had a dedicated snow package for winter. We have real winters here.

I am in Chicago, we have real winters too :flamer:

2) My own personnel.

Ok, bummer, I was hoping for a good story

For Peter, no they do not, but it looks just fine and the combination handles very well for daily use.

Thanks for the info, I park the MM for the winter but I want a tire on there just in case I had to take it out (it would have to be a BIG emergency)

[rayjay]

Thanks for the info, I park the MM for the winter but I want a tire on there just in case I had to take it out (it would have to be a BIG emergency)

I suppose in a pinch they'd work. Mine is not useable right now, no plates, no road insurance, battery is in the basement and 6+ feet of hardpack snow is in front of the door its parked behind.
By real winter I mean snow, lots of it. We've had 160+" already and it hasn't really snowed in two weeks.

[bigmerc2003]

I suppose in a pinch they'd work. Mine is not useable right now, no plates, no road insurance, battery is in the basement and 6+ feet of hardpack snow is in front of the door its parked behind.
By real winter I mean snow, lots of it. We've had 160+" already and it hasn't really snowed in two weeks.

Yeah you guys are getting hit hard with the storms off the lakes. good luck with the snow melting soon! We have had a crazy winter here, 60 one day, 20 below the next week, ice storms, snow and lots of it. we are in the top 20 snowiest winters I think:eek:

Back the tires....All I need is something that would grip in the snow to make a 20-30 mile trip. I just forget which Nittos are summer only, I think summer only is the 555's and the 420's could in a pich be used all year??

[Spectragod]

Really, whie $250 a tire is steep, last summer when I got the iceburg that sunk the Titanic stuck in one of my rear tires, I had to pay $225 for 1 tire, they weren't on any kind of backorder at the time, nor any shortage either.

Business's don't keep the doors open by doing things for no profit, that is a fact. The bottom line is, if you want a stock tire, right now, that is what your going to have to pay, otherwise, you will need to go to a different brand.

Oh yeah.... in before the lock.

[Shora]

I got 32,000 miles oout of my first set of rears, 38,000 off the fronts.

You do know that you are the exception right? I have never gotten over 12K miles out of the stock rear BFGs and I tried playing with the air pressure. No help.

Sure, I guess that I "could" have gotten 32K miles out of mine too, but they would NOT be a safe tire in wet conditions. Thus far, I am VERY happy with my Nitto 420s.


What happened to Cheby running this exact tire on the new Camaro? They must have read the threads here on crappy performance and went elsewhere. $250 for those POS tires is way out of line. Spend that $250 on a set, yes 2 of Nitto's 420S, you won't be dissatisfied. BFG, friggin crooks.

If the Camaro does end up with the 245/55/18 tire size, I am pretty sure that they will use a different size wheel. Maybe a 7.5" instead of our 8". Don't ask me how, but it might solve the center wear issue.

[MERCMAN]

Why don't people just upgrade to a 255/55-18? That should of been the tire that came on the car to start with, really helps with the rake stance plus some meaty traction in the rear.
Dennis, I wasn't complaining about your price for the tires, I was just saying that's a lot. Push comes to shove if someone needs them they will pay for them. I run BFG 255/55-18 kdw2 tires and paid a pretty penny for four of them but I had to have them.


Please explain "helps with the rake stance"

Helps how????

[sd8683]

Please explain "helps with the rake stance"

Helps how????

Well if its a taller tire it will have a more aggressive stance

[MERCMAN]

OK, but how will that affect handling? Would not a taller tire affect the center of gravity compared to stock size? I am not talking about running down the 420, I am curious about cornering. On hard braking would that affect braking as the weight of the car is is proportioned differently? I am sure that the suspension on the MM was engineered for optimal performance with the OEM size. I am not an engineer and I haven't slept in a Holiday Inn express,,so I am just curious. Is this a valid question or is it another "pinion angle" thread from days past(The old timers will remember that reference)

[rayjay]

Well if its a taller tire it will have a more aggressive stance

+1, it also fills in the wheel well a little more. I believe if you search there are photos posted.

[O's Fan Rich]

Is this a valid question or is it another "pinion angle" thread from days past(The old timers will remember that reference)

You talking, before, during, or after acceleration, braking cornering or when parked, climbing a hill, sitting in the takeout line, picking up hookers on the corner........:D:D:D

ahhhhhhhhhh..... memories.....

[jonroe]

I got 32,000 miles oout of my first set of rears, 38,000 off the fronts.

I know I'm in the minority but I got 42K on my first set of rears. There was still usable tread left but I was going into winter and replaced them "early". I just replaced the fronts at 57K. Just another data point - they don't ALL wear out at 10K.

[bigmerc2003]

OK, but how will that affect handling? Would not a taller tire affect the center of gravity compared to stock size? I am not talking about running down the 420, I am curious about cornering. On hard braking would that affect braking as the weight of the car is is proportioned differently? I am sure that the suspension on the MM was engineered for optimal performance with the OEM size. I am not an engineer and I haven't slept in a Holiday Inn express,,so I am just curious. Is this a valid question or is it another "pinion angle" thread from days past(The old timers will remember that reference)


Your talking like 1/2" difference which you can see but I doubt you can feel it and your not adding wieght or additional mass so there is no differnce in stopping. You are going wider and taller by tiny amounts so there should be no difference. Pinion angle is set by the suspension and the tires would not affect it

[bigmerc2003]

I know I'm in the minority but I got 42K on my first set of rears. :eek:There was still usable tread left but I was going into winter and replaced them "early". I just replaced the fronts at 57K. Just another data point - they don't ALL wear out at 10K.

Teach us grasshoper :bows:

There was about 35k on my first set but I bought the car with 22k so I do not know if they were changed. I have 64k and am on my third set with on 2k on the third set. BFG sucks

[rayjay]

OK, but how will that affect handling? Would not a taller tire affect the center of gravity compared to stock size? I am not talking about running down the 420, I am curious about cornering. On hard braking would that affect braking as the weight of the car is is proportioned differently? I am sure that the suspension on the MM was engineered for optimal performance with the OEM size. I am not an engineer and I haven't slept in a Holiday Inn express,,so I am just curious. Is this a valid question or is it another "pinion angle" thread from days past(The old timers will remember that reference)

You aren't talking a large enough difference here. The tire is like 1/2" wider and taller. I found no difference in handling. There are others here who have used them much longer than I have with no problems that I know of. If I got 15k out of the OEMs I felt lucky. Thats not acceptable.

[MERCMAN]

How about differences in tread pattern between front and rear if you are running OEM on the front? Would there be a noticable traction difference when the road is wet compared to matching tires all the way around?

[bigmerc2003]

How about differences in tread pattern between front and rear if you are running OEM on the front? Would there be a noticable traction difference when the road is wet compared to matching tires all the way around?

front to rear no difference, side to side is bad

[scruff]

some of you guys are to funny lol has anyone considered switching over to 17" tires that they use on P71 there pretty reasonable to buy and theres lots of em around ?

[Dennis Reinhart]

some of you guys are to funny lol has anyone considered switching over to 17" tires that they use on P71 there pretty reasonable to buy and theres lots of em around ?


It will not work on 03B and 04 with traction control, the only way to run the same size tires is to change out the ABS unit, out of a 03 CV with traction control, the Marauder is set up for a 5MPH difference to account for the difference in the front and rear tire size. So if you run the same size tires the abs unit will think there is a loss of traction and set the ABS.

[scruff]

crap thats to bad there is always some BS that gets in the way eh

[Peter]

It will not work on 03B and 04 with traction control, the only way to run the same size tires is to change out the ABS unit, out of a 03 CV with traction control, the Marauder is set up for a 5MPH difference to account for the difference in the front and rear tire size. So if you run the same size tires the abs unit will think there is a loss of traction and set the ABS.
I have Blizzaks on 16" rims and I have no problems with the traction control.

[ctrlraven]

Mercman, I have drove for two years with stock kdws up front and 255/55 kdw2 on the rear with no problems and will still drive with this combo. The only downside to my kdw2 is they don't make them anymore. Hell my winter combo is 235/70-16 (front) 255/70-16 (rear) I had to relearn how to drive the car cause the car itself could handle more than the tires can.

[musclemerc]

$250.00 per tire? Fair mark up?:stupid:

[larryo340]

Your talking like 1/2" difference which you can see but I doubt you can feel it and your not adding wieght or additional mass so there is no differnce in stopping. You are going wider and taller by tiny amounts so there should be no difference. Pinion angle is set by the suspension and the tires would not affect it

If the height is indeed 1/2" taller then stock size then actually it would only be 1/4" (1/2 on top and 1/2 on bottom)

Not to split hairs, but the pinion angle will be affected by a taller tire on the rear of the car since you are raising the rear axle and not the nose. Again not by much but pinion angle would change. Now if you put a taller tire by the same amount that you changed the rear then no you won't change pinion angle ;)
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Sorry for the thread detour, now back to the original thread......

While I do agree that $250 for the oem type tire is ALOT of money (and for a questionable tire), it's all about supply and demand. If BFG were to release 1,000 of these tires tomorrow then the price is surely going to drop like a rock. We all know that the more rare something is the more it's worth, kinda like the Marauder itself.

[LOWBUCKMM]

i have 37k on the set that the car came with. the rears need to be replaced but the front are still fine. but i have already made up my mind and im going to go with the nitto 420s. i have not heard a bad thing about them yet and the best part about them they are available. brandon

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

It will not work on 03B and 04 with traction control, the only way to run the same size tires is to change out the ABS unit, out of a 03 CV with traction control, the Marauder is set up for a 5MPH difference to account for the difference in the front and rear tire size. So if you run the same size tires the abs unit will think there is a loss of traction and set the ABS.

I'm running 17s right now, just measured and used some math to find out the revs/mile and input that into my xcal 3 tuner, now all I have to do is shut off the T/C everytime or the car has a fit at about 35mph. But I haven't seen any issues with ABS though, you think I am hurting something?

[rayjay]

How about differences in tread pattern between front and rear if you are running OEM on the front? Would there be a noticable traction difference when the road is wet compared to matching tires all the way around?

None that I've noticed.

[Blackened300a]

How about differences in tread pattern between front and rear if you are running OEM on the front? Would there be a noticable traction difference when the road is wet compared to matching tires all the way around?

I didnt notice any difference at all with nittos on the back except the usual BFG vibrations in the front. I since went with nitto 420s all around and the car feels smoother and handles about the same.

[Marauderjack]

$250.00 for a COMPLETE set of BFG's is too much!!!!:eek::shake::help:

You guys getting long life out of them must be driving on ICE most of the time!!!:rolleyes:

I got 6700 miles on the rears that came on the car.....15,000 on the replacements @ 45 PSI....ROUGH!!!:confused:

I have had several sets of Nitto 555's......currently the rears have 38,700 miles on them with about 10K left!!:beer:

Step up to better tires....pay less....better performance....be happier!! ;)

[MM2004]

What size front and rear Nittos are you guys running?

Mike.

[Bluerauder]

I know I'm in the minority but I got 42K on my first set of rears. There was still usable tread left but I was going into winter and replaced them "early". I just replaced the fronts at 57K. Just another data point - they don't ALL wear out at 10K.
Jon, I think that you have a problem with the "GO" pedal. You might want to get it checked out ... it isn't going down as far as it does on mine. Check for obstructions. ;)

[Marauderjack]

What size front and rear Nittos are you guys running?

Mike.

Mike,

I'm running 255's up front and 295's out back...widened rims!!:beer:

Marauderjack:burnout:

[jonroe]

Jon, I think that you have a problem with the "GO" pedal. You might want to get it checked out ... it isn't going down as far as it does on mine. Check for obstructions. ;)

Charlie, point taken! I don't baby it but I also don't do burnouts. I can't explain why I've gotten good mileage out of the tires. I should have taken pictures of the rears when I took them off at 42K. Those pictures would be rarer than UFO pictures! Jon

[Bigdogjim]

You do know that you are the exception right? I have never gotten over 12K miles out of the stock rear BFGs and I tried playing with the air pressure. No help.

Sure, I guess that I "could" have gotten 32K miles out of mine too, but they would NOT be a safe tire in wet conditions. Thus far, I am VERY happy with my Nitto 420s.

Well when I replaced mine they had very good tread in them. I now have 16K on the replacement stock tires that show no wear. So I guess I must be the exception?

[Joe Walsh]

I'm running 255's up front and 295's out back...widened rims!!:beer:

^^^ +1 on that set-up. I love my Nitto 555s!


Charlie, point taken! I don't baby it but I also don't do burnouts. I can't explain why I've gotten good mileage out of the tires. I should have taken pictures of the rears when I took them off at 42K. Those pictures would be rarer than UFO pictures! Jon


Well when I replaced mine they had very good tread in them. I now have 16K on the replacement stock tires that show no wear. So I guess I must be the exception?

I too, got very good wear out of my OEM tires.
I had 10,000 miles on my rears when I sold them and they still had 70 percent tread left.
I didn't do lots of burnouts, but they had seen plenty of 1/4 mile action, including warm up burn outs.
:dunno:

[bigmerc2003]

I can put my hands on six of these for 250.00 EA PS


$250.00 for a COMPLETE set of BFG's is too much!!!!:eek::shake::help:



$500 for a rear set of BFGS... I think you need a few more shock and awww smileys


What size 420's are people running on the fronts?

[Dennis Reinhart]

$250.00 for a COMPLETE set of BFG's is too much!!!!:eek::shake::help:

You guys getting long life out of them must be driving on ICE most of the time!!!:rolleyes:

I got 6700 miles on the rears that came on the car.....15,000 on the replacements @ 45 PSI....ROUGH!!!:confused:

I have had several sets of Nitto 555's......currently the rears have 38,700 miles on them with about 10K left!!:beer:

Step up to better tires....pay less....better performance....be happier!! ;)



That may be, but as of yet NO one yet has posted a lower price or found them. I run hancook ventus on the rear of my car

[Blackened300a]

What size 420's are people running on the fronts?

Im running 235/55/18 for the fronts in nitto 420

[Bluerauder]

I had 10,000 miles on my rears when I sold them and they still had 70 percent tread left.
I don't know how you estimated 70% tread remaining -- eyeball or guage. However, if you were just a tad off .... say it was really 60% remaining, then you are probably in the ballpark of 25,000 on the rears. That is kinda close to my experience -- even though I have pulled them at 21K with 3-4 mm remaining. I have also seemed to notice that the first 50% tread lasts longer than the 2nd 50% on the BFG OEM rear tires.

[Joe Walsh]

I don't know how you estimated 70% tread remaining -- eyeball or guage. However, if you were just a tad off .... say it was really 60% remaining, then you are probably in the ballpark of 25,000 on the rears. That is kinda close to my experience -- even though I have pulled them at 21K with 3-4 mm remaining. I have also seemed to notice that the first 50% tread lasts longer than the 2nd 50% on the BFG OEM rear tires.

I measured the tread depth remaining and took pictures of the tread depth w/gauge, so the purchaser had a good understanding of their condition.

IIRC: 7/32" tread left of 9.5/32" original depth
BFG rates them at '400' wear rating

[Mebot]

That may be, but as of yet NO one yet has posted a lower price or found them. I run hancook ventus on the rear of my car

I was looking for the Ventus St 06 for my rear but they've been discontinued. Are you running the Ventus AH 07's? If so, how do you like it? How does it perform? The tread pattern on the 07s look similar to the BF Goodrichs but the reviews on 1010tires.com gave them a 3.5 out of 5.

I wasn't able to find any other reviews for the AH 07s, so i'm just curious as to how you like em. Would they be sufficient for a daily driver MM?

[bigmerc2003]

I was looking for the Ventus St 06 for my rear but they've been discontinued. Are you running the Ventus AH 07's? If so, how do you like it? How does it perform? The tread pattern on the 07s look similar to the BF Goodrichs but the reviews on 1010tires.com gave them a 3.5 out of 5.

I wasn't able to find any other reviews for the AH 07s, so i'm just curious as to how you like em. Would they be sufficient for a daily driver MM?

I would look at the tire matrix if I were you. It lists all the combo's and specs and some owner comments. Most of the memebers that have changed swtiched to the Nittos with good sucess. If you have deep pockets go with the goodyear f1's as they are rated the best but come with the highest price tag. Because our car is a little more unique I would go with MM owner comments on tires before I went with online comments. Keep us posted on what you buy and how you like them.

[Mebot]

I would look at the tire matrix if I were you. It lists all the combo's and specs and some owner comments. Most of the memebers that have changed swtiched to the Nittos with good sucess. If you have deep pockets go with the goodyear f1's as they are rated the best but come with the highest price tag. Because our car is a little more unique I would go with MM owner comments on tires before I went with online comments. Keep us posted on what you buy and how you like them.

Oh trust me, I've been looking at that tire matrix religiously! I replaced my front tires already with new BFGs but it's the rear tires that I was looking at replacing.

My MM is a daily driver and I live in Northern VA so snow and ice may be an issue three or four times out of the year, but I wanted a tire that would be all season, keep me happy with treadwear life, and still be productive on performance.

The Goodyear Eagle ResponsEdge seemed like a nice fit, but I just kept on coming back to the Nittos. I tried finding the Hankook Ventus RH 06s but they've been discontinued and I haven't found much reviews for the AH 07s.

Anyways, I decided to go with the Nitto 420s in the rear (255/55) for now and I'll most likely be happy with them in the summer months and just hope that they'll hold up ok during the winter.

[Mebot]

Because our car is a little more unique I would go with MM owner comments on tires before I went with online comments. Keep us posted on what you buy and how you like them.

BTW i reread your post and wanted to point out that this is an excellent point and the main reason I always come back to the MM.net forums (not just for tires questions but everything else that has to do with Marauders) :)

:cool:

[bigmerc2003]

BTW i reread your post and wanted to point out that this is an excellent point and the main reason I always come back to the MM.net forums (not just for tires questions but everything else that has to do with Marauders) :)

:cool:

You hit the nail on the head! And there is tons of info on this site but sometimes it is hard to find. But that tire matrix and the MM owners swearing by the Nittos I think that may be the tire to beat. And noone knows better what our car like than the owners, and if people are at the track, on the street, in the rain and snow and they like them then tha tis enought for me! And thanks for the info on the fronts, a complete set of 420's makes me feel better, i do not have a problem with my other cars having two different brands front to rear, but I want the MM to look uniform front to rear.

[MM2004]

Im running 235/55/18 for the fronts in nitto 420

What size would we need for the rear (non-widened)? And taking into consideration us with traction control?

Mike.

[bigmerc2003]

What size would we need for the rear (non-widened)? And taking into consideration us with traction control?

Mike.

From what I have read it looks like 235-55-18 up front and 255-55-18 in the rear works for everyone

[Blackened300a]

From what I have read it looks like 235-55-18 up front and 255-55-18 in the rear works for everyone


Correct.....

[MM2004]

Thanks guys!

:beer:

Mike.

[bigmerc2003]

Correct.....

Your sig pic rocks! Been meaning to tell you but keep forgetting!

[CKMustangCobra]

I bought Nitto 420S for the rear back in September 2008. I drove around here in Orlando, up to Virginia, all around Virginia, Maryland, DC.... back to Orlando. They still look brand new. Awesome traction. Handle well in the rain.

When my stock front wear out I will be replacing them with Nittos too more than likely.