Got my HID's installed

[Vortech347]

I ordered a slim ballast kit with hi/lo's and they were 65$ shipped.

6000k. What a difference!!! The high beam is a horrible H3 that dosn't really do a damn thing. But thats fine because wow... I'm impressed.

I'm going to order a 6000k for the fogs too down the road...

[2,4shofast]

I need to check these out!

[CKMustangCobra]

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[2,4shofast]

I dont believe he is adding any;)

[hot-rauder]

6000k is white if im correct?
8000k is blue and
10000k is purple?

Raudermaster had HID headlights and fogs..... :up:

[252life]

So the 9007-2 bulbs are not good?

I'm thinking of buying 9007-3 (telescopic)

But I have also seen a 9007 double beam (needs 1 extra ballast)

It's difficult to choose :confused:


http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a369/vdcjr/JSM/pb_oxi51212052675.jpg

[TiTo35]

Where did u get hi/lo for $65 shipped???

[ctrlraven]

I bought a 9007 Bi-Xenon kit, if you want low/high beam this is the way to go.



Bi-Xenon Headlights refers to HID (High Intensity Discharge) Xenon headlights that offer both low (dipped) and high (main) beam lighting from a dual headlight system (as opposed to a quad headlight system).
A bi-xenon system eliminates the need for a separate halogen high beam bulb/lens by either moving the xenon bulb within the lens or by moving a shield up or down in front of the bulb (depending on the reflector design) to allow light to escape from the lens in a different pattern.

[hidperf]

I bought a 9007 Bi-Xenon kit, if you want low/high beam this is the way to go.

+1
I also have the HID fogs. As the saying goes, I can see for miles and miles and miles.....:beer:

[fastblackmerc]

I bought a 9007 Bi-Xenon kit, if you want low/high beam this is the way to go.

I agree. You will pay significantly more since you get dual HID bulbs and 2 extra ballasts. But this is definitely the way to go.

[Bulten Rauder]

I can't stand cars with HID lighting. They bother me tremendously when oncoming and I refuse to put fellow drivers through the pain.:mad2:

Don't make your car look like a cheap Jap car at night!

[TiTo35]

I can't stand cars with HID lighting. They bother me tremendously when oncoming and I refuse to put fellow drivers through the pain.:mad2:

Don't make your car look like a cheap Jap car at night!

For some it improves night driving.

[2,4shofast]

HID's came from Europe ;) If it helps someone see the road better Im all for it:beer:

[Bulten Rauder]

For some it improves night driving.

No doubt, but I can see just fine with the OEM lighting.

You can also mount 4 large floodlights on the roof to see better...like all those cool guys with Jeeps and backwoods pick-ups...Yeeh Haw

[fastblackmerc]

No doubt, but I can see just fine with the OEM lighting.

You can also mount 4 large floodlights on the roof to see better...like all those cool guys with Jeeps and backwoods pick-ups...Yeeh Haw

Factory lighting sucks compared to HIDs.

I have not adjusted any factory settings and I never had anyone flashing their lights at me on local streets or the highway.

Each series is lo beams then the hi beams.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0275.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0276.jpg


http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0278.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0277-1.jpg


http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0281.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0282.jpg

[fastblackmerc]

Guess which MM has the HIDs? The other one has Silverstars.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0271.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0273.jpg

[TiTo35]

I can vouch for NC back roads...it gets DARK out there to the point the high beams dont do much.
Hey fastblackmerc...which bulb are you using for the corner?

[252life]

I bought a 9007 Bi-Xenon kit, if you want low/high beam this is the way to go.


I agree. You will pay significantly more since you get dual HID bulbs and 2 extra ballasts. But this is definitely the way to go.

It's a little confusing but as far as I can understand there are 3 different "Hi/lo" 9007 bulbs

9007-4 "Real Dual Beam" Double Hi/Lo HID Bulbs (total of 4 ballasts needed)

9007-3 Singel HID bulb (telescopic Hi/lo function)

9007-2 Singel HID (Lo) and H3 (Hi)


Anybody using the 9007-4? I think I gonna get that one.

[fastblackmerc]

BiXeon HIDs (4 ballasts), 6000K, 3watt LEDs in the foglights, LEDs bulbs in the marker/turn signals.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0037.jpg

[offroadkarter]

BiXeon HIDs (4 ballasts), 6000K with 3watt LEDs in the foglights.



Next time im back in cary, im stealing your lights


That looks great!!!

[fastblackmerc]

It's a little confusing but as far as I can understand there are 3 different "Hi/lo" 9007 bulbs

The BEST
9007-4 "Real Dual Beam" Double Hi/Lo HID Bulbs (total of 4 ballasts needed)

Next best
9007-3 Singel HID bulb (telescopic Hi/lo function)

Cheapest
9007-2 Singel HID (Lo) and H3 (Hi)


Anybody using the 9007-4? I think I gonna get that one.

I'm using the 9007-4.

Remember the higher the temperature (K) the less light output.

The 6000K is the closest to "white" you'll get.

[fastblackmerc]

Next time im back in cary, im stealing your lights


That looks great!!!

Next time your down here bring the parts and we can install them.

[GetMeMyStogie]

This is what a genuine OEM HID setup looks like:
http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=20533&highlight=HID+projector

If you want a true high-beam, that will actually light things up further away on a dark road, this is the only way to go.

Of course, it's more $$ and effort, that's why most people go the plug-n-play route.

[GetMeMyStogie]

Guess which MM has the HIDs? The other one has Silverstars.

Is it the one producing all the glare? You can barely see the car :lol:

[james1986fox]

BiXeon HIDs (4 ballasts), 6000K, 3watt LEDs in the foglights, LEDs bulbs in the marker/turn signals.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0037.jpg
Where did you buy the led corner and turn signal lights from

[ImpalaSlayer]

I can't stand cars with HID lighting. They bother me tremendously when oncoming and I refuse to put fellow drivers through the pain.:mad2:

Don't make your car look like a cheap Jap car at night!

i agree, do they improve lighting? hell yeah. but i just cant stand looking at them when they come at them so i wont buy them.

[Vortech347]

I basicly bought the cheapest ones I could find to see if it was worth it.

I like them alot. The high beams are useless however I'm noticing that these throw out so much more light. I'm not missing it at all. Sometime tomorrow I'll shoot some pics.

Btw, to make installation alot easier just remove the headlights. Its way easier and less painful unless you have 12 year old girl hands.

Edit: I left my adjustments at factory and drove a total of about 80 miles tonight visiting a friend. Not one person flashed me.

[Bulten Rauder]

but i just cant stand looking at them when they come at them so i wont buy them.

Amen brother.

"Factory lighting sucks compared to HIDs.

I have not adjusted any factory settings and I never had anyone flashing their lights at me on local streets or the highway."

Nobody "flashes" people with HID because they understand it's pointless since the owner can't lower or dim the HID lighting...:mad2:

The factory lighting does not "suck" compared to anything. It's fantastic and I have absolutely no problem seeing on any road in any driving conditions. :cool4:

Most of the HID comments are "that LOOKS cool" or they "LOOK" great etc. Just like European's, it seems "looks" have importance over costs with some MM owners...please think of others before lighting up bright as a camera flash. There's enough light pollution in the world already. :)

[ctrlraven]

I agree. You will pay significantly more since you get dual HID bulbs and 2 extra ballasts. But this is definitely the way to go.


It's a little confusing but as far as I can understand there are 3 different "Hi/lo" 9007 bulbs

9007-4 "Real Dual Beam" Double Hi/Lo HID Bulbs (total of 4 ballasts needed)

9007-3 Singel HID bulb (telescopic Hi/lo function)

9007-2 Singel HID (Lo) and H3 (Hi)


Anybody using the 9007-4? I think I gonna get that one.

This is the 6000k BiXenon kit I bought, they are 9007-3.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF0231Large.jpg
(http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/?action=view&current=DSCF0231Large.jpg)

[fastblackmerc]

Let us know how they work. I heard that the "telescoping" bulbs didn't work that great.

[GetMeMyStogie]

The high beams are useless however I'm noticing that these throw out so much more light. I'm not missing it at all.

So, effectively, you're driving with the high-beams on all the time, then?:eek:
I mean since the high-beam switch doesn't really have any effect anymore, and the output is brighter than the stock high-beams.

That doesn't sound good.

[ctrlraven]

Let us know how they work. I heard that the "telescoping" bulbs didn't work that great.

Mine worked fine for me until one of the bulbs went up and I just switched back to silverstar ultras for the time being until I buy another set of bulbs.

I've actually been thinking about buying another kit on http://ddmtuning.com/hidkihidbuhi.html I have a lot of friends that have been running DDM kits for a while now and their happy with them. I can get headlights and fogs for cheaper than what it cost for my original McCulloch kit

[Vortech347]

So, effectively, you're driving with the high-beams on all the time, then?:eek:
I mean since the high-beam switch doesn't really have any effect anymore, and the output is brighter than the stock high-beams.

That doesn't sound good.

Negative. The low setting is the HID's. The high setting are the little H3 bulbs.

If I could of done it again I would of just gotten non hi HID's and saved 10 bucks.

[Vortech347]

btw, the kit I have looks identical to the one on the site raven posted.

[GetMeMyStogie]

The high setting are the little H3 bulbs.

Do these provide a noticeable increase in illumination when you switch them on?

[Vortech347]

Do these provide a noticeable increase in illumination when you switch them on?

Not even close, the foglights are brighter. Its a pretty crappy design.

[GetMeMyStogie]

Not even close, the foglights are brighter. Its a pretty crappy design.

Then, regardless of whether the high-beam switch is still there or not, or hooked up to something or not, you either:

A) have no high beams to speak of (effectively just low beams)

OR, if the output is brighter than the stock high beams

B) have high-beam output on all of the time.

I'm assuming B), which is what I meant by "effectively" having your high beam on all of the time.



Perhaps my definition of high-beam isn't accurate. I went to a big wall in a dark place the other night and had a good look at the stock headlight output. Now that I think about it some more, there are 2 major differences:

1. high-beam output is significantly brighter than low-beam output.
2. the aim of the high-beams is vertically higher than the low beams. It's "higher" than the low-beams, which I guess is what makes it good for seeing farther away on a dark road.

Prior to this realization, I was only thinking of effect #1, brightness.

So, let me see if I understand what you get from your HID kit:

1. A single beam pattern, aimed low enough to not to offend oncoming traffic. Much like a stock low-beam pattern. (pattern only, brightness is a separate issue)
2. The brightness is much higher than stock, lighting up nearby things much more effectively.
3. No real way of casting additional light on things that are far away, since there's no way of raising the beam pattern vertically. You must rely on the 'scattered' light from the low-beam pattern to light things up that are far away.

[Vortech347]

Uhhh...yea.. Thats the point of getting the HID's was the extra light. If you had a kit you'd understand. The low beam is very effective and I'm spotting deer a hell of alot better than I did with my normal high beams. They arn't aimed anything lower than stock. Not a single person has flashed me and I've had about 20 hours of wheel time at night so far. Also remember, I went with 35w ones not 55w's. The 55's are much more agressive with light.

Did I get a bi-xenon kit? no. Do I want one? sure! But I had 65$ to blow and thats what I spent it on. I didn't want to spend 200$+ and not like them at all. Besides I can always re-sell these and get a bi-xenon later. :)

[GetMeMyStogie]

I see what your saying now. Thanks for clarifying :o

As is often the case, I was asleep at the wheel :sleepy:

[xenonvisions]

yeah, you only get flashing issues with a higher end light kelvin - such as a 10k or 12k. shouldn't have any issues with a lower base kelvin - 6k or 8k.

[DJCV]

Please help an HID-noob understand:
Since the HIDs are significantly brighter and throw a much longer light pattern than OEM halogens, why would one want/need to have bi-xenons instead of the low-beam only? Only to alert others (i.e., flash-to-pass)?

[GetMeMyStogie]

If you're asking about bi-xenon HID projectors, they have a moveable shield which blocks much of the light during 'lo-beam' use (and also gives the beam a 'cutoff' at the right height to prevent blinding oncomers). When the shield is moved out of the way (hi-beam), you get the full output of the HID bulb to significantly increase the light shone ahead. In other words, a bi-xenon projector provides two significantly different light patterns.
If you're asking about plug-n-play HID kits, I couldn't tell you. Presumably to appease market demand. People want HID, and they want hi- and lo- beams (cuz they're used to it), so PnP kit 'manufacturers' come up with various schemes to provide it. But none of them use a flip-down shield. Most people don't seem to care, though.