Bmw 740

[cstringe42]

Well I finally got a chance to open up the MM. I think I picked the wrong car. A friend of mine has a BMW 740. All I've been hearing from him and my buddies is how fast the car is. Well, I think MM is pretty fast too. So after a little running of the mouth, I said let's got see what you got. Well we were on Torrence ave (Lansing, IL) he wanted to go from a rolling start, nahhh lets go from the light. And did we go. Well he didn't get going fast but made up quickly. Well it appeared neither of us had enough so it was on to the expressway. And to our luck it was wide open. I have to admits that car is pretty damn fast!!! I hung for a minute but then he was off. After hitting 125+ I just slowed down and took it home. I've never driven that fast and probably wont again, but it was a great feeling. I must say this is the fastest car I've ever own. So needless to say when I get some money I will be seeing Dennis. And if any of you Chicago MMs run across a 740, pleas whip his a** for me. ZACK THAT WOULD BE YOU!!!!

[SergntMac]

Only takes a moment to trade license plates, CS, call that 740 dude, have him meet up with us.

When it's over, we'll run our mouths about how he could have spent that 25K he could have saved...LOL

BTW, why aren't you hanging with us anyway...

[Dr Caleb]

Hmmmmm, I killed one of those the day I bought my car. Guess the guy just didn't have the fire in him.

[RCSignals]

maybe the 740 wasn't exactly stock?

[Bigdogjim]

Originally posted by RCSignals
maybe the 740 wasn't exactly stock?

I know for a fact a stock 740 will outrun a stock Marauder.

I still would have the Marauder.:D :) :P :P

[LVMarauder]

I owned a 2001 BMW 740 IL right before i got my MM and with out a doubt the 740, stock, will own a stock MM anyday. The car produces 285 horses at the fly wheel but weighs less. The fastest I ever went in that car was down Summerlin Parkway at 230 in the morning, I hit 145 In sport mode. what a feeling. dont get me wrong I really like my MM but the 740 always has a place in my right foot.

[deerejoe]

BMW??

I can't even catch a Camarro!!

But who cares??

[cutt]

if you chack some old post i raced a 03 740 iL a few months back,1/4 mile only and out of the 10 times we raced on different occasions i won 8 of them. and if i iced the intake down i'd really take to him.you gotta have at least 6000 miles or so before you go racing.

[LVMarauder]

ok not to flame but the 03 are the 745, a 4.5 liter german monster that produces 333 hp and well over 300+ lbs/tq, its whats in the M3. I havent driven the 745 but id be willing to be my left nut that its faster than the 740. maybe you were racing someone that wasnt comfortable with WOT. once again, no offense.

[RCSignals]

cutt, it must be your post I was remembering.

[RCSignals]

LVMarauder
745? I must have missed something or thre is a deleted post?

[LVMarauder]

Originally posted by cutt
if you chack some old post i raced a 03 740 iL a few months back,1/4 mile only and out of the 10 times we raced on different occasions i won 8 of them. and if i iced the intake down i'd really take to him.you gotta have at least 6000 miles or so before you go racing.

cutt said 2003 740 IL which is not correct because 7-Series made in 2003 hold the designator 745 , the 40 and 45 representing the size of the engine. im saying it couldnt of been a 2003 740 cuz they dont exist. no offense to anyone

[RCSignals]

Oh OK. Makes sense now

[BillyGman]

Originally posted by deerejoe
BMW??

I can't even catch a Camarro!!

But who cares??

I'm sure a SS or Z28 Camaro will smoke a BMW740 any day of the week hot or cold. And no, I don't own a Camaro, but I've raced them w/my 375HP Vette w/3.70 gears in the rear and even though I won, it was very close.......those LS-1 motors are NOT to be taken lightly....so please lets NOT glamourize the foreign sedans too much,;)

[cstringe42]

Sorry it was a 745!! But I'll get another chance one day and it'll be different.

SergntMac

I plan to be at Byron!!! I'll be spending much more time in the chicagoland area, so keep me posted!!!

[Rex_Karrs]

Maybe it isn't all horsepower, torque and weight - remember all those motor mags that insist an M3 will outdrag a Corvette, despite being down on rated horsepower and up on weight - laws of physics notwithstanding. I treat anything I hear about BMWs with many, many grains of salt.

[dwasson]

I know for a fact a stock 740 will outrun a stock Marauder.

I still would have the Marauder.

Me too. For the price difference I can get a supercharger and still afford the tickets.

Plus with the Marauder you get the added joy of annoying the Birkenstock people. There is just something about a big American sedan that makes the weenies shiver.

My dad drives a Town Car and I told him that my car was his car's evil twin.

[duhtroll]

Agreed dwasson --

I have never seen anything remotely considered the "rich guy" car (read imports like BMW, Ferrari, you name it) out here in IA, unless it's on I80 travelling thru about 100 MPH.

However, if I were to ever enter "that conversation" and get told that my car was inferior, I would point out the price difference.

On the engine note -

Even starting slowly from a stop (have to do this around school) people have told me that I was "gunning it" - they just aren't used to what this engine sounds like. Granted these are kids, but you get the idea. I do like startling people in their Caddy Escalades, Ford Subdivisions, Mercury Road Mammoths, etc..

I love seeing the expression on people's faces when they snidely ask how a teacher can afford such an expensive car. When I tell them my car cost less than their SUV, new fullsize truck, etc., jaws drop. Heh.

-A

[LVMarauder]

Originally posted by BillyGman
....so please lets NOT glamourize the foreign sedans too much,;)

What's wrong with foreign cars. Those Germans got their **** together. All cars that pin you to the back seat and make you want to drive them are great no matter where they come from.

[Matt Johnson]

I drive my MM in my Rainbow brand surf flops almost daily...

[gja]

745=too much damned money
Take the extra bucks, stuff it under the hood of the Merc and NOTHING short of a either a full-blooded pasta-rocket (Ferrari/Maserati/Lambourghini) or an M3/4/5, maybe, maybe an AMG series M/B could even get NEAR your rear bumper.
With an extra $20K+ to use the Merc could have an all-forged internals/blown/balanced and blueprinted engine that would need a hardened trannie to put up with the immense power it would be putting out.
I would be willing to bet you could get an 11sec 1/4 mile with that kind of funding.

[cutt]

i may have made a mistake.it must have been a 740.it was big and brand new with a V8

[LVMarauder]

Originally posted by gja
745=too much damned money
an M3/4/5, maybe, maybe an AMG series M/B could even get NEAR your rear bumper.
With an extra $20K+ to use the Merc could have an all-forged internals/blown/balanced and blueprinted engine that would need a hardened trannie to put up with the immense power it would be putting out.


Point A. THe 745 is priced out the ass, you are right.

Point B. Care to show us a picture of the M4? Thats quite a magic trick BMW pulled off to get an M4 out, considering theres no such Series lol

Point C. You would be so far out of warranty on ANYTHING in the vehicle , even the clock!, if you were to do that. Even a supercharger nulls the warranty. Why risk that. The M3 is expensive no doubt , but theres not a whole lot left to do to it unless you are Mr. Reinhart or some other super tuner.WHen we do stuff to our cars it goes against the OEM design, thats a problem you dont have with BMW's, and thats not to say lots of people mod their BMW's cuz i know lots that do.

[bigslim]

All I know since I work at an American Auto Plant I enjoy hearing stories about how the MM kicked some foreign car butt. I know some of you gonna say that the MM comes out of Canada. The assembly is there but for the most part all the content is made here. The frame comes out of the good old Dearborn Frame Plant at the World Famous Rouge (Home of the Mustang).

[BillyGman]

by only quoting part of my previous short post, you've managed to take what I've said ALL out of context. if you want to have a love affair w/foregn cars then that's your biz, and it's all cool. I'm not going to have a quoting war w/you here, but for the record, my whole point had everything to do w/the member who I had quoted who was stating that he cannot even catch up w/a Camaro. Now if you think that your precious BMW yuppie mobile is gonna make light work of a LS-1 engine equipped Camaro or Corvette than you are dreaming. And that was my entire point. The point that I'm afraid you missed. I said it more politely the first time around, but since you've merely quoted me partially and taken it out of contex then I felt the need here to get a little more heavy about it to make it clear to you. However I still mean no offence just as I didn't the first time around.;)

[bigslim]

Hey Billy, don't sweat it. I didn't take it out of context. I just wanted to vent a little about the domestic/foreign car wars.

[John F. Russo]

dwasson

"Plus with the Marauder you get the added joy of annoying the Birkenstock people. There is just something about a big American sedan that makes the weenies shiver. "



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I'm still laughing about that last sentence. It's the best line I've heard on this website

[John F. Russo]

Sorry! I'm not sure how I forgot to add my comment. So let's start over again.

dwasson

"Plus with the Marauder you get the added joy of annoying the Birkenstock people. There is just something about a big American sedan that makes the weenies shiver. "

This was so funny that I'm still laughing as I'm typing. It's the funniest line I've ever heard on this website!

[LVMarauder]

BILLY, dont get smart with me, you were directing that comment at me, "I'm sure a SS or Z28 Camaro will smoke a BMW740 any day of the week hot or cold. And no, I don't own a Camaro, but I've raced them w/my 375HP Vette w/3.70 gears in the rear and even though I won, it was very close.......those LS-1 motors are NOT to be taken lightly....so please lets NOT glamourize the foreign sedans too much, " theres your ENTIRE comment. Now since I have passed 7th grade English I know what context can and cannot do for a stream of conscious thought. Taking the last comment, " so please lets NOT glamourize foreign sedans too much," didnt change anything to its meaning; You were still telling me to withhold my opinion on foregin autos.
Your absolutely right I love foreign european cars, Im not a fan of Asian Imports but I RESPECT people who do.
Your point may have had to do with someone else but that comment was pointed at me.
No my "precious yuppie mobile" that cost $86,000 samolians with a $1200 monthly payment problably couldnt take a Vette with a 5.6, 6.0, or 7.0 Liter enigine, but then again BMW's are made for luxury, style and sport, NOT DRAG RACING, but hey maybe I am dreaming.
Since you decided to get fresh with me, I'm going to throw it right back at you and thats MY point, offence taken.

Bottom Line: Dont talk smack about cars you know little about. Respect other peoples opinion.

A Mercury Marauder and a BMW 740 IL have pros and cons that make them both awsome cars, regardless of what language their engineers speak. End of Discussion.

[bigslim]

To put one more end to this discussion. LV you are right. Both cars have there pros and cons.
MM pro: Buying one puts money in my pocket and helps keep the economy running (UAW MEMBER, LOCAL 600).
BMW con; no money in pocket, money goes over seas.
Makes you go MMMMMMMM!!

[BillyGman]

Originally posted by deerejoe
BMW??

I can't even catch a Camarro!!

But who cares??

Okay LVMARAUDER. Now if you went back and read my original post that got you sooooo bent out of shape, you would've noticed that my post first included the above quote that WAS NOT from you, but was from "deerejoe". Do you get it? So I think by you stating or thinking that my post was directed at you, was a bit paranoid on your part since you got waaaaay too defensive for no reason at all. So please don't be so offended, because like I've already stated before, I meany no offense to you or to "deerejoe". And since it wasn't a quote from you that I had posted, nor was it you who started this thread in the first place, you are getting a bit out in left field thinking that my comment was directed at you. Because the fact is, that it had absolutely nothing to do w/you. So maybe what we have here is your inability or refusal to accept MY opinion on cars, eh?

[deerejoe]

BillyGman & LVMarauder:

It's ALL about racing...street or strip!!
On the strip...you pretty much know what ur up against...
On the street (open road) you take ur chances...

Understanding that (most) German autos generally are SPEED limited to 135-155 MPH pretty much puts my stock OEM Marauder to bed.

American autos (I thought) were speed limited some what slower for whatever reason.
My allusion to the Camaro was that those I've run have generally kicked dust in my face and it is in that context ONLY, I made the point of reference.
Money, heritage has NOTHING to do with it.

It's just too sad that a 'program' car (like the MM) has to be compromised in so many areas to be allowed out the door and into the market place.
It is equipped with an engine well capable of performing with the 'best of the lot' when untethered.

Someone at Ford (Steve Babcock ??) has taken the initial steps to provide a mature platform for those of us who either admire the larger wheel base and/or the rather spirited performance.

But to assume that this OEM car will go out onto the byways and take on the rest of the world is PURE folly!!
You want that KIND of car...dig deep in your wallet, boys/girls...high performance don't come cheap.

What the Marauder provides for the budget minded (or tuff guy wannabe) is a TASTE of what it's like to be the "fastest gun in town".
Just remember not to pull it on the wrong people.....

[BillyGman]

I just thought that you were under the impression that if you can't keep up w/a Camaro, then that would mean for certain that you would never be able to catch a BMW 740/745 and that isn't neccessarily so since Camaros(w/the LS-1 motor) are definately faster than the BMW. That's all that I meant. But no harm done my friend.;)

[bigslim]

No matter what you have there is is always someone faster.