Can Anyone please help me out??

[svtmerc510]

hey whats up everyone. im new to this site but plan on spending most of my internet time here. i got a 03 auder and i recently put 22 inch bullet wheels but one problem when the traction control is on my car acts up and stalls but once i take off the traction control its back to norm. anyone know why?? would a tuner help ?? thanks alot yall

[sweetair]

For starters, get rid of the 22's. You are killing the car. Put the 18's back on and I bet the problem goes away.

[fastblackmerc]

for starters, get rid of the 22's. You are killing the car. Put the 18's back on and i bet the problem goes away.

+1...


Take the wagon wheels off!

You have MERCURY Marauder... not a Conestoga Marauder.

[svtmerc510]

yeah only problem my 18's got stolen. looking to buy a new set.

[BAD MERC]

Auder??? Lose the bro wheels and put the respect back in ownership!!!!!!

[FordNut]

What they said, but short term fix may be to put taller tires on the rear.

[2,4shofast]

hey whats up everyone. im new to this site but plan on spending most of my internet time here. i got a 03 auder and i recently put 22 inch bullet wheels but one problem when the traction control is on my car acts up and stalls but once i take off the traction control its back to norm. anyone know why?? would a tuner help ?? thanks alot yall


What size tires do you have on the rear? Let me know and I will tell you how far off you are in tire size, you probably have too much rear tire and it will effect the TC.

[FordNut]

the rears need to be taller than the fronts.

[babbage]

Also you need 4.30 gears installed at a minimum to get back some speed.

Got a picture?

[svtmerc510]

i have 265/35/22s in the back

[gmtech]

what size tires are you running front & rear? the tires need to be staggered with about an inch taller tire in rear. need to find a tire size thats equal to the stock circumference.


P.S. dont expect any love here if you dont do what everyone else does & make your car look like everyone elses:puke:

[Fourth Horseman]

+1. Yeah man, don't let the folks on here scare you off. Don't be afraid to make your car unique. I'd like to see some pics, too. Oh, and welcome to the site! :beer:

[RR|Suki]

If he wants 22s so what?

Either way when you increase rim size you need to make sure that the tires remain their respective sizes.

1010tires.com is your friend, they have a tire size calculator and you can put in the stock size and figure out which tires you will need to run in 22" on the front and the back.

[2,4shofast]

510: I sent you a PM, hope it will help you out...would love to see some pics as well!

[BAD MERC]

Yeah man!!!! 22"s are so old school. Tub it and put 30"s on it. Flip-flop the trunk, put a chainlink steering wheel on it and glitter-green paint. Nothing goes over like a 'unique' Marauder. Do a Grand National and a Delorean too - rare automobile owners clubs LOOOOOOOVE unique cars. I have been here long enough to see the rampant brain damage from desecrating an already-cool car. Fact is: your car will look like a dumbshit if you're ever attending a Marauder meeting. Something about 30 Marauder lined up and one sitting 8" taller than everyone else.....

[W4LTD]

Something about 30 Marauder lined up and one sitting 8" taller than everyone else.....

Sort of like a circus freak?

Where can I get one of those chain-link steering wheels? It would be a great security system, just add a padlock!

[Jake Steel]

bro wheels tooooooooo funny ,welcome, the MM is a very unique and very rare and a very hott auto,you are going to do what you want ...sell the 22's and try to find a set of oem mm rims? Any mods yet........happy motoring

[Jake Steel]

:puke::lol::eek:

[2,4shofast]

I have been here long enough to see the rampant brain damage from desecrating an already-cool car. Fact is: your car will look like a dumbshit if you're ever attending a Marauder meeting. Something about 30 Marauder lined up and one sitting 8" taller than everyone else.....

I can agree that the Marauder is a very nice car stock, but I dont see everyones facination about staying stock. These cars are not hand built in some European factory, they were built in Canada and 95% of people dont even know what it is... His 22's sit about an inch taller than stock ride height, who cares? It isnt your car and he was just asking for help. You have been around here for many years and I am sure you could help him with the issue as it has been discussed many times even if it is not to your taste. Who knows maybe the 22's will slow him down enough to keep another Marauder on the road for the years to come.

With less than probably less than 9K left on the road why dont we enjoy the cars together even if you dont like the current trends, we would not be where we are today if car nuts of the past didnt modify their cars and try something new. Not every one wants a Black model T to drive every day... is it that hard to respect that?

[tjg442]

yeah only problem my 18's got stolen. looking to buy a new set.TRADE OR SELL THE 22"S, and GO BACK TO
18, 17, OR 16" RIMS. 22"?...YOUR CHOICE, IT'S YOUR CAR, HOWEVER, AS YOU FOUND OUT, IT SEEMS TO BE WRONG. SEND SOME PICS OF THOSE 22", WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM. JUST FOR FUN ? WELCOME TO OUR SITE :)

[tjg442]

i can agree that the marauder is a very nice car stock, but i dont see everyones facination about staying stock. These cars are not hand built in some european factory, they were built in canada and 95% of people dont even know what it is... His 22's sit about an inch taller than stock ride height, who cares? It isnt your car and he was just asking for help. You have been around here for many years and i am sure you could help him with the issue as it has been discussed many times even if it is not to your taste. Who knows maybe the 22's will slow him down enough to keep another marauder on the road for the years to come.

With less than probably less than 9k left on the road why dont we enjoy the cars together even if you dont like the current trends, we would not be where we are today if car nuts of the past didnt modify their cars and try something new. Not every one wants a black model t to drive every day... Is it that hard to respect that? right on !!!! Well said ;)

[Bluerauder]

hey whats up everyone. im new to this site but plan on spending most of my internet time here. i got a 03 auder and i recently put 22 inch bullet wheels but one problem when the traction control is on my car acts up and stalls but once i take off the traction control its back to norm. anyone know why?? would a tuner help ?? thanks alot yall
Marauders with traction control need to "see" a rear tire size that is between 2% and 5% taller than the fronts. If this height difference is smaller than 2% or larger than 5% (give or take), the traction control will "think" that the tires are slipping and respond accordingly.

Personally, I am not a fan of 22 inch wheels on the Marauder. Post up pics so that we can see it.

[Bigdogjim]

It's your marauder so go with what you like! We at times are a "strange" group:rofl:

Enjoy the site and welcome aboard!!

[rayjay]

Marauders with traction control need to "see" a rear tire size that is between 2% and 5% taller than the fronts. If this height difference is smaller than 2% or larger than 5% (give or take), the traction control will "think" that the tires are slipping and respond accordingly.

Personally, I am not a fan of 22 inch wheels on the Marauder. Post up pics so that we can see it.

+1, on the tire stagger info & Bluerauder echoed my sentiments exactly. Its your car you can do as you wish, but folks here tend to be conservative and believe the OEM wheels are perfect for the MM.

[RR|Suki]

TRADE OR SELL THE 22"S, and GO BACK TO
18, 17, OR 16" RIMS. 22"?...YOUR CHOICE, IT'S YOUR CAR, HOWEVER, AS YOU FOUND OUT, IT SEEMS TO BE WRONG. SEND SOME PICS OF THOSE 22", WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM. JUST FOR FUN ? WELCOME TO OUR SITE :)

it's not the rim that's too big, it's the tires that are the wrong size ;)

[Bluerauder]

i have 265/35/22s in the back
That combination is about 2.1 inch taller than the stock front OEM BFG 235/50ZR18 (or 7.5% taller than stock fronts). Too tall to avoid TC interference.

[justbob]

I'd personally like to see a custom 19 F 20 B that were identical to our wheels.

[FordNut]

No matter what the size is, the important factor is the fronts need to be about 5% smaller than the rears.

[Fourth Horseman]

Yeah man!!!! 22"s are so old school. Tub it and put 30"s on it. Flip-flop the trunk, put a chainlink steering wheel on it and glitter-green paint. Nothing goes over like a 'unique' Marauder. Do a Grand National and a Delorean too - rare automobile owners clubs LOOOOOOOVE unique cars. I have been here long enough to see the rampant brain damage from desecrating an already-cool car. Fact is: your car will look like a ******** if you're ever attending a Marauder meeting. Something about 30 Marauder lined up and one sitting 8" taller than everyone else.....

Yeah, in YOUR opinion. Who appointed you Marauder style cop? You guys rag on anybody that comes onto this forum who does not share your ideal muscle car aesthetic. If you don't like it, how about trying a little STFU for once?

[sd8683]

I can agree that the Marauder is a very nice car stock, but I dont see everyones facination about staying stock. These cars are not hand built in some European factory, they were built in Canada and 95% of people dont even know what it is... His 22's sit about an inch taller than stock ride height, who cares? It isnt your car and he was just asking for help. You have been around here for many years and I am sure you could help him with the issue as it has been discussed many times even if it is not to your taste. Who knows maybe the 22's will slow him down enough to keep another Marauder on the road for the years to come.

With less than probably less than 9K left on the road why dont we enjoy the cars together even if you dont like the current trends, we would not be where we are today if car nuts of the past didnt modify their cars and try something new. Not every one wants a Black model T to drive every day... is it that hard to respect that?


Very well said! I love how "some" people on here are quick to complain about people on this site not owning Marauders but when someone WITH a Marauder joins the site and has differant paint or wheels they are run off! And hey...... It may not be my cup of tea but who am I to say what someone should or shouldn't do to THEIR car!

[RF Overlord]

^^^what Bluerauder said^^^

If you put the same size tires and rims all around, the TC will not like it. I'm not a fan of the "wagon-wheel" look, but if you decide to keep the dubs, just get tires that satisfy the >2% - <5% difference and you'll be GTG.

[O's Fan Rich]

Glad I don't have TC..... I'm hunting for 24's now...... gotta be taller!!!

[svtmerc510]

thanks to all you that are actually helping me out with your advise but to you folks just hating on 22s on a marauder its all good i aint mad!! everyone has there own opinion.

ill post pics of my MM asap !!!!

[2,4shofast]

You have another PM bro.

[tjg442]

it's not the rim that's too big, it's the tires that are the wrong size ;) Got to put some kind of rubber on them, just wondering, what the sizes are, and why any traction control problem with an 03 ?

[RF Overlord]

and why any traction control problem with an 03 ?'03 300b's have T/C. Only the 300a did not.

[2,4shofast]

i have 265/35/22s in the back

He is running these all around. I sent him suggested tires sizes to get back the the 5% front to back ratio.

[BAD MERC]

Yeah, in YOUR opinion. Who appointed you Marauder style cop? You guys rag on anybody that comes onto this forum who does not share your ideal muscle car aesthetic. If you don't like it, how about trying a little STFU for once?


No thanks on the STFU - it was not stated or intended as an opinion. The Marauder group is generally one of enthusiasts and not mall-cruising kids looking for a box of Black & Milds and some Wine Coolers. I had to tolerate the "hey - I am one of you now 'coz my Taurus LOOKS like a SHO now" mentality for eight years on TCCA. No sense making this the place where people buddy up and see whose vertical lift doors are the pimpest or who has the brightest gold 'teef'. As far as being the authority on Marauder styling - come to any conclusion you wish. Just don't be so excited to see these cars desecrated. I am not ragging on anybody - the crap that people do to cars and the people who so happily embrace those abortions get me pretty passionate. Here's some other Marauders for your viewing pleasure - what happens when these retards pull up and wanna be included in the party?

[Seneca]

No thanks on the STFU - it was not stated or intended as an opinion. The Marauder group is generally one of enthusiasts and not mall-cruising kids looking for a box of Black & Milds and some Wine Coolers. I had to tolerate the "hey - I am one of you now 'coz my Taurus LOOKS like a SHO now" mentality for eight years on TCCA. No sense making this the place where people buddy up and see whose vertical lift doors are the pimpest or who has the brightest gold 'teef'. As far as being the authority on Marauder styling - come to any conclusion you wish. Just don't be so excited to see these cars desecrated. I am not ragging on anybody - the crap that people do to cars and the people who so happily embrace those abortions get me pretty passionate. Here's some other Marauders for your viewing pleasure - what happens when these retards pull up and wanna be included in the party? Wow.. that's all i gotta say, Atleast you cant see the calipers!!:D

[Ms. Denmark]

It's OK to have strong opinions about what you love. I don't love to see Marauders turned into something unrecognizable. As I've said many times, I don't even like to see aftermarket wheels. :eek: That's my personal opinion. I think it's alright to ask owners to think twice before permanently altering the look of the car. They are simply not a dime-a-dozen and a little stewardship and conservation isn't out of line from a forum devoted to the best advice on the care and maintenence of Marauders. JMHO (and no I wouldn't STFU on this subject.;))

[james1986fox]

No thanks on the STFU - it was not stated or intended as an opinion. The Marauder group is generally one of enthusiasts and not mall-cruising kids looking for a box of Black & Milds and some Wine Coolers. I had to tolerate the "hey - I am one of you now 'coz my Taurus LOOKS like a SHO now" mentality for eight years on TCCA. No sense making this the place where people buddy up and see whose vertical lift doors are the pimpest or who has the brightest gold 'teef'. As far as being the authority on Marauder styling - come to any conclusion you wish. Just don't be so excited to see these cars desecrated. I am not ragging on anybody - the crap that people do to cars and the people who so happily embrace those abortions get me pretty passionate. Here's some other Marauders for your viewing pleasure - what happens when these retards pull up and wanna be included in the party?
Yea so the green and purple one WAS mine and as far as being "one of the retards" you can definitely stfu with that bs, you need to keep your opinions to yourself. I can say that I dont have that car anymore, and once I joined this site it kind of got me out of that stage of buying big rims and flashy things and now I'm focused on mods and going faster. I don't see anywhere on this site where it says people with big rims on their marauder aren't allowed to join. Everybody has their own opinion on the way they want their car to look.



To who needs the help with traction control, I had 22s on a previous 2004 marauder I had which had 255/35/22 on the fronts and 265/35/22 on the rears and everything worked perfectly.

[BAD MERC]

It stuns me that somebody that paints a Marauder lime green and purple gets offended at being called retarded - like it REALLY is just my opinion. I used to enjoy this site back when it was taken seriously and there was pride, common interest and a sense of being part of something unique - like Harley owners. Well, it has gone down in flames and junior members with giant mouths and pimpaholic owners have kinda cornered the "make it unique - no matter how gaudy" market. Makes me proud that my support dollars go somewhere else.

[james1986fox]

It stuns me that somebody that paints a Marauder lime green and purple gets offended at being called retarded - like it REALLY is just my opinion. I used to enjoy this site back when it was taken seriously and there was pride, common interest and a sense of being part of something unique - like Harley owners. Well, it has gone down in flames and junior members with giant mouths and pimpaholic owners have kinda cornered the "make it unique - no matter how gaudy" market. Makes me proud that my support dollars go somewhere else.


Not here to argue, but if I'm a junior member with a big mouth because I'm defending myself than I dont think your opinion matters what so ever.

[TAKEDOWN]

To eaches own, but Isn't there some type of DONK website?

[GetMeMyStogie]

Marauders with traction control need to "see" a rear tire size that is between 2% and 5% taller than the fronts. If this height difference is smaller than 2% or larger than 5% (give or take), the traction control will "think" that the tires are slipping and respond accordingly.

Where'd you get these numbers?

The stock rear tire is 5% larger than the front.
255/55/18, which many people run satisfactorily with stock fronts, are 6.6% larger than the stock fronts.
255/50/18, which are a bit smaller than stock rears and which one unlucky Canuck can atest to (http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=737530#post73 7530), do not work well with stock fronts, even though they are 2.9% larger than the stock fronts.

The lower end of the range is somewhere between 3%-5%, and the upper end of the range is somewhere beyond 6.6%. If 1.6% larger than stock is okay, perhaps it's safe to say 1.6% smaller than stock should also be okay.

So, seems like a safe recommendation might be for a rear tire 3.4%-6.6% larger than the front.

[Fourth Horseman]

No thanks on the STFU - it was not stated or intended as an opinion. The Marauder group is generally one of enthusiasts and not mall-cruising kids looking for a box of Black & Milds and some Wine Coolers. I had to tolerate the "hey - I am one of you now 'coz my Taurus LOOKS like a SHO now" mentality for eight years on TCCA. No sense making this the place where people buddy up and see whose vertical lift doors are the pimpest or who has the brightest gold 'teef'. As far as being the authority on Marauder styling - come to any conclusion you wish. Just don't be so excited to see these cars desecrated. I am not ragging on anybody - the crap that people do to cars and the people who so happily embrace those abortions get me pretty passionate. Here's some other Marauders for your viewing pleasure - what happens when these retards pull up and wanna be included in the party?

I tell you one thing, if they pull up to my party they won't be referred to as retards. But hey, keep on making an a$$ of yourself. I knew I'd have a reason to use the board's ignore function some day.

[Bluerauder]

Where'd you get these numbers?

The stock rear tire is 5% larger than the front.
255/55/18, which many people run satisfactorily with stock fronts, are 6.6% larger than the stock fronts.
255/50/18, which are a bit smaller than stock rears and which one unlucky Canuck can atest to (http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=737530#post73 7530), do not work well with stock fronts, even though they are 2.9% larger than the stock fronts.
I said "give or take" on the numbers. :rolleyes: I am also running the 255/55ZR18 on the rear. :pill: The main point was that the traction control was looking for a size differential between the front and rear tires. There has to be an allowance for wear such as new rears matched with old fronts and vice versa. Your numbers may be closer .... but the point remains the same.

[O's Fan Rich]

Oh my god..... I so want this!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15 299&d=1239234063

[rayjay]

I'll say it again, I fail to see the attraction of jacking up and putting wagon wheels on ANY car. To me they just plain look bad. :flamer:

[tjg442]

'03 300b's have T/C. Only the 300a did not.Thats what this site is all about :bows:education!!! Thanks ;)

[tjg442]

Oh my god..... I so want this!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15 299&d=1239234063 Can you tell me where you got this pic !!! WOW ! Someone I know with a Chrysler R/T, and no b%$#s :D wants to download it ? :banana:

[justbob]

How'd you gett a pikure of mie momma's bucket foo?

[O's Fan Rich]

Can you tell me where you got this pic !!! WOW ! Someone I know with a Chrysler R/T, and no b%$#s :D wants to download it ? :banana:

Just right click and save as..... enjoy.....