turbo my mm?

[jus4kix03MM]

hey guys looking for some opinions. well i ve looked into the trilogy sc, not really researching any other sc cuz thats the one i hear everyone talk about. i keep hearing about a company that does a rear mounted turbo called squires turbo systems http://www.ststurbo.com (http://www.ststurbo.com/) . has anyone tried to turbo their mm? any opinions are appreciated.:hotrice::drive:

[252life]

A red glowing turbo under the bumper, getting covered in water spray from the rear tire and what about the turbo lag? Looks like a real "ghetto-rig".

[O's Fan Rich]

no..... no...... no.

[justbob]

I've only heard of serious lag with remote turbo's on big cars, plus serious piping, go trilogy and be done in 15 hrs.

[offroadkarter]

I've only heard of serious lag with remote turbo's on big cars, plus serious piping, go trilogy and be done in 15 hrs.


If you use small piping or a smaller turbo it would virtually eliminate the lag.

Remote mount isnt a terrible setup if you do it right, theirs a remote mount single turbo crown vic P71 running around NJ somewheres

[Joe Walsh]

I've only heard of serious lag with remote turbo's on big cars, plus serious piping, go trilogy and be done in 15 hrs.

^^^^^^^ +1!! ^^^^^^^

Marauders are long wheelbase cars...SO...you are going to run 4 pipes front to back to make the system work.

2 Exhaust Pipes
2 Turbo to intercooler pipes

Plus the following:

1: Lonnnnnnng Turbo Oil feed lines
2: Lonnnnnnng Turbo Oil return lines (probably need an auxillary oil scavenge pump for the oil return.)
3: Lonnnnnnng Turbo water coolant lines (for water jacketed Turbo bearings, which is what you want.)
4: Unlike the late model Mustangs which have room for Turbos out back because that is where Ford mounted the OEM mufflers, our Marauders DO NOT have a lot of space.
5: A few cold beers to drink while you wait for boost to build in 15 feet of piping.

For the life of me I cannot figure out how those STS systems work.
They violate the laws of thermodynamics...Heat IS energy.
When the turbo(s) are close to the exhaust ports they get hit with the HOT, HIGH VELOCITY exhaust gas pulses.....That's what spools the turbos!
To me, the remote turbo system is like blowing through a garden hose to clear out the water before a cold freeze....ever do that?

[justbob]

I've never gave a good blow on a hose Joe, is it hard?

[offroadkarter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA1ZC5E6bRM

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[justbob]

Did I read that right? Only an extra 100 hp. or so? I would think you would get much more?

[FordNut]

I've seen a few turbo Marauders. There's only one that I would seriously consider, and it's a totally custom (i.e. very expensive) twin turbo setup. Pics are posted somewhere on here. There used to be a kit available, it had a few issues but performance was good. That company went out of business.

[SC Cheesehead]

Did I read that right? Only an extra 100 hp. or so? I would think you would get much more?

+1

Eaton or Paxton S/C beats this hands down, with a whole bunch less plumbing.

[mrjones]

Did I read that right? Only an extra 100 hp. or so? I would think you would get much more?

That's more than a 50% increase in hp. That's pretty substantial, especially for a 2V non PI head engine.

[Joe Walsh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA1ZC5E6bRM

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That's is a better rear mount turbo set-up because it is a little closer to the engine than the turbo(s) back by the rear bumper.
It also gets the air filter out from behind the rear wheels with all the water spray, road dirt & debris.
But it is still a LOT of piping.....and it makes less RWHP & RWTQ than I do N/A...:D

[Raudermaster]

The STS kit is actually a decent kit. There's a few F bodys and 'Stangs running around town with them, and they do make great power. But like stated before, you drive a Marauder, the piping length will ruin your performance.

[stryker]

:cool: Nice video mang I want more

[offroadkarter]

Did I read that right? Only an extra 100 hp. or so? I would think you would get much more?

an extra 120 on 6psi, your complaining!?

if you added 120hp to my car's baseline RWHP i'd be right with any base package trilogy....

Forged internals and up the boost to 10psi? would probably see double that...

[justbob]

Not really complaining, i'm just so used to seeing a 400 hp baseline around here on anything with a basic blower set up. Also if i was only gonna achieve low 300 hp #'s I would go the nitrous way before investing that kind of time and money is all.

[offroadkarter]

Not really complaining, i'm just so used to seeing a 400 hp baseline around here on anything with a basic blower set up. Also if i was only gonna achieve low 300 hp #'s I would go the nitrous way before investing that kind of time and money is all.

Did you know on turbos, much like superchargers, you can increase boost for more power? :D

[justbob]

Nope, i don't know jack about turbo's. But i do like that really cool sonic whistle!:D

Do you have to swap out the whole unit? Or just other pieces?

[Hotrauder]

Talk with Juno. He has a turbo set up and is a helpful guy who can and will be honest in his advise. Dennis...personally I think all the effort to build a better mouse trap is a great waste of time, money and a lot of heart aches. There is not one unhappy Trilogy customer in the 200 kits sold. There are no problems with belts, blow off valves, tubes flying off and engines blowing up. You can go all the way to 23+ pounds of boost with a reliable trouble free proven kit that runs on the street like stock till you dip into the loud pedal. The kit supplies immediate boost at the lower end of the RPM range where our led sleds need help and the boost is totally controllable. My wife drives my twin screw and doesn't even know it is there. :) What the hell more is there you need? Just askin. :beer:

[juno]

The stock PTK kit (no longer available) with a single 66 mm turbo was the most powerful stock power adder available. All the other kits need upgraded pullies, belts, headers, etc to approach it. It was actually a good deal when you factored in the add-ons you had to do with all the other kits to get to the same power. Mine bolted on and from day one has run flawlessly with no issues whatsoever with the kit. It is much more difficult to tune, but more boost is just a push of a button away (if your motor will support it). My turbo is set to about 33% and is hitting 9.5 psi and is above "acceptable" power limits for the block. Scott Beer figures he could make 600 rwhp easily with my kit if I get forged internals. The only upgrade I made over the stock kit was to swap to 60 lb fuel injectors over the 42's it came with and I had to go to twin fuel pumps recently. To get the ultimate 1/4 mile performance you have to match a torque converter to it. I burned up a single disc, hated the experimental one and I am not happy with the three disc PI as it stalls much higher then the 3500 advertised when the turbo hits it. It is a ton of fun to drive. No pullies, no whine, no extra maintenance, the ultimate sleeper. It is truly the only kit that drives like stock because you hear NOTHING until you hit it.
A custom STS kit would be great. I would recommend two smaller (52 mm or so) turbos and you would have little to no lag. To do it right would be expensive. The PTK kit came with custom headers and all the piping to the stock exhaust. To get better performance from the STS kit, you would want to replace the stock headers and get the smoothest, largest piping you can get to the turbos. I would love to see someone do it. A single turbo using the stock exhaust would be pretty easy to do and should perform very well. Don't let the distance of the piping deter you. A molecule of air travels so fast that you can't imagine it. The bigger issues would be how free everything can flow.