Opinions on best supercharger please

[th48308]

yup..im gonna blow it...ive seen a few trilogy superchargers and wat they can do...compared to say vortec or kenne belle....who has the most power for the least money...and what can i expect from each...help please

[BAD MERC]

"The most power for the least money"? That's like walking into a bar and asking for the biggest, strongest, cheapest drink - they will give you a glass of water. You should do homework on reliability, drivability, ease of install and maintenance AND how long you intend to keep your car. They're all made to compress air and make power. Some are discrete about it - some make a shrilly metallic sound if you touch the throttle.

[TiTo35]

I guess I will be the one to say use the SEARCH.

BTW...Welcome to CAMLand...Most CAMers are biased to the Trilogy. Its the bang for the buck! We meet up on Mondays in Bowie...perfect time to get ALL your answers. Holla at us!

[SC Cheesehead]

"The most power for the least money"? That's like walking into a bar and asking for the biggest, strongest, cheapest drink - they will give you a glass of water. You should do homework on reliability, drivability, ease of install and maintenance AND how long you intend to keep your car. They're all made to compress air and make power. Some are discrete about it - some make a shrilly metallic sound if you touch the throttle.

^^^^^ what he said ^^^^^

Whatever system you decide to go with, if you're going to buy new, plan $7,000+ for the hardware plus other upgrades that you'll want to go along with the SC (e.g. tranny, tune). If you can find a used set-up you'll be able to go cheaper, but make sure you get all the parts.

[joemama]

I would strongly recommend the twin screw...:beatnik:

Just my .02.

[Spectragod]

I would strongly recommend the twin screw...:beatnik:

Just my .02.

I will strongly second that.........

[jdando]

Trilogy. It works, day in, day out, -15F to 105F. The best engineered and most complete kit in my opinion. And you can do a self-install.

[justbob]

Trilogy. It works, day in, day out, -15F to 105F. The best engineered and most complete kit in my opinion. And you can do a self-install.
You forgot to mention that you can hot lap all day long at 105*:D

Seriously though do your home work, trilogy is an out of the box kit, where as centricals require t/c's and gears to get them to launch as hard as the roots type, but put out some dang good 1/4 mile times. Both set ups are great, but I opted for power the easy way plus I wanted something that looked stock.

[DOOM]

Trilogy. It works, day in, day out, -15F to 105F. The best engineered and most complete kit in my opinion. And you can do a self-install.

Listen to this ^^^^ man. :up:
Is your car a daily driver?

[DOOM]

Theres a reason why trilogy has sold 200 blowers. :burnout:

[O's Fan Rich]

Ahhh don't buy a Super charger... it's a waste of money. Soon you'll be seeing a plethora of Marauders running sub-13 second times without them and you'll be able to copy what they did and save some cash!

[Motorhead350]

My Procharger is nice and it cost about $1,000 less than something that Jerry's kids have. :D

If I had the choice I would probably have gotten a Roots styled blower, but it's a bottom end blower. The Marauder engine is good in the top end and that was one of my deciding factors, since the Procharger is good in the top end.

[justbob]

My Procharger is nice and it cost about $1,000 less than something that Jerry's kids have. :D

If I had the choice I would probably have gotten a Roots styled blower, but it's a bottom end blower. The Marauder engine is good in the top end and that was one of my deciding factors, since the Procharger is good in the top end.
Did that include your t/c and gears?:rolleyes:

[Hotrauder]

My Procharger is nice and it cost about $1,000 less than something that Jerry's kids have. :D

If I had the choice I would probably have gotten a Roots styled blower, but it's a bottom end blower. The Marauder engine is good in the top end and that was one of my deciding factors, since the Procharger is good in the top end.

Hi Motorhead. Your logic in the above statement seems counterintuitive. Read it again yourself...Why not buy a power adder that would help where the Marauder engine isn't so good? Just a thought that has led to 200 Trilogy kits being sold to 200 very happy Marauderers. Dennis:)

[jdando]

Listen to this ^^^^ man. :up:
Is your car a daily driver?

Daily driver here in MN. A good set of snow tires makes a world of difference for winter use.

[RR|Suki]

Novi 2000 :banana2::banana2::banana2:

[BAD MERC]

My Procharger is nice and it cost about $1,000 less than something that Jerry's kids have. :D

If I had the choice I would probably have gotten a Roots styled blower, but it's a bottom end blower. The Marauder engine is good in the top end and that was one of my deciding factors, since the Procharger is good in the top end.



Just think - you can go from nice to great and help Jerry's kids all for only 1,000 bucks. Most people would kill for that kind of cheap upgrade.

[magindat]

I'm so not getting into this. Read the sig and understand - mines a hybrid - and I LOVE IT!

The kit was originally an FIT procharger, and has been modified and tuned by myself and a prominent vortech dealer.

All kits have their benefits and draw backs. At the end of the day, they are ALL fun as hell to drive!

[Seneca]

I think my signature says it for me... to each his own, they're all quick! Seneca

[Mike M]

I love my ProCharger, BIG horsepower, easier to install, cheaper.

[Embassy]

Nice to see the FIT owners chiming in.

I have a ProCharger kit because.....well, because it came with the Marauder I purchased.


All kits have their benefits and draw backs. At the end of the day, they are ALL fun as hell to drive!

+1

[th48308]

ok so its pretty much up to me...cool thanks fellas

[Motorhead350]

Hi Motorhead. Your logic in the above statement seems counterintuitive. Read it again yourself...Why not buy a power adder that would help where the Marauder engine isn't so good? Just a thought that has led to 200 Trilogy kits being sold to 200 very happy Marauderers. Dennis:)

Did you read the first line in my second paragraph? When you do I won't be on your poo poo list for the next hour.

I also do not like the sound of a roots blower... no matter what it is. Always sounds like something is about to break to me.

Either way power is power I don't care how the guy gets it.

I will say this though. I was disappointed at first with my Procharger because all it would do for me was 13.8 with most everything was stock. I don't know if it was the tune or what, but it took a T/C and slicks to get me into 12.8 when really I should be doing around 12.2 with my set up. :(

Jerry's is supposed to do 12.9 or 12.8 stock. Justbob has his doing 12.9 without even a tune, headers, gear or T/C! The more I look into it the more I wish I got a Roots blower and should have just dealed with the noise.

That's how I really feel! :P

[Mike M]

I went to the track awhile back when it had 9psi, Stock exhaust manifolds and stock exhaust. I really can't remember if I had a converter or not but the car went 12.7. I only got one run in as the track was packed. I'm sure if I could have made a few more passes I could have gotten it down a bit more as I had some wheel spin on this pass.

I will have to dig up the dyno sheet as I think it made 410 hp on 9psi.
AZMarauder went with my and his Trilogy with Cobra exhaust manifolds made 385hp (I think).

I really fear blowing up the stock bottom end so I don't get on it as much as I use to (I am an old fart now) but I do use 100+octane exclusively.

[Hotrauder]

Did you read the first line in my second paragraph? When you do I won't be on your poo poo list for the next hour.

I also do not like the sound of a roots blower... no matter what it is. Always sounds like something is about to break to me.

Either way power is power I don't care how the guy gets it.

I will say this though. I was disappointed at first with my Procharger because all it would do for me was 13.8 with most everything was stock. I don't know if it was the tune or what, but it took a T/C and slicks to get me into 12.8 when really I should be doing around 12.2 with my set up. :(

Jerry's is supposed to do 12.9 or 12.8 stock. Justbob has his doing 12.9 without even a tune, headers, gear or T/C! The more I look into it the more I wish I got a Roots blower and should have just dealed with the noise.

That's how I really feel! :P

Not on my Poo Poo list. I don't have one. I am happy to advise when asked, love and believe in the Trilogy system and love and believe in Jerry Barnes as he has proved to me and many others over and over that he is behind his products and customer/friends 100%. That is huge in this business and unfortunately uncommon. That said I DO NOT CARE what power adders you or anyone else has on their cars..your car, your choice. I was only commenting on your thought process for your choice. No put down intended. All the best. Dennis:)

[Vortech347]

Oh F$@^ here we go again.

[DOOM]

TRILOGY FTW!!! :banana2:

[Glockafella]

I dont have one, but I like the Trilogy set up!

[Bradley G]

My turn :D
Positively

[O's Fan Rich]

It's hard to do a search on superchargers here....

So.....look around... see what's available... get individual opinions...

see what will make you happy..... buy it.... install it... get it custom dyno'd tune by whoever you trust to do so and be done with it...

[bigmerc'03]

think about what u want both superchargers are great and perform fabulous a low end or a top end superchager is what's on the menu the choice is yours choose wisely grasshopper........

[Dobs]

Can we still get the FIT Procharger, or its not available anymore?

[O's Fan Rich]

Can we still get the FIT Procharger, or its not available anymore?

http://www.procharger.com/index.html

Call procharger and ask?

[Seneca]

Did you read the first line in my second paragraph? When you do I won't be on your poo poo list for the next hour.

I also do not like the sound of a roots blower... no matter what it is. Always sounds like something is about to break to me.

Either way power is power I don't care how the guy gets it.

I will say this though. I was disappointed at first with my Procharger because all it would do for me was 13.8 with most everything was stock. I don't know if it was the tune or what, but it took a T/C and slicks to get me into 12.8 when really I should be doing around 12.2 with my set up. :(

Jerry's is supposed to do 12.9 or 12.8 stock. Justbob has his doing 12.9 without even a tune, headers, gear or T/C! The more I look into it the more I wish I got a Roots blower and should have just dealed with the noise.

That's how I really feel! :P get your tune straight. My car doesnt run slicks. I ran DR's and made two 12.5 passes in a row no TC. I ran 12.9 on my nitto 420's Regards Seneca

[th48308]

see im from the DC area and i havnt even been able to top out my marauder yet because of all the dang coppers...but i do go to 75-80 which is a drag strip in monrovia, md....wat ive gathered so far is that the trilogy will give me the boost off the line that im looking for compared to the procharger/vortec that will give me the power in 3rd and 4th gear....sound about right?

[duhtroll]

It is at least 201 now... :D


Hi Motorhead. Your logic in the above statement seems counterintuitive. Read it again yourself...Why not buy a power adder that would help where the Marauder engine isn't so good? Just a thought that has led to 200 Trilogy kits being sold to 200 very happy Marauderers. Dennis:)

[Joe Walsh]

see im from the DC area and i havnt even been able to top out my marauder yet because of all the dang coppers...but i do go to 75-80 which is a drag strip in monrovia, md....what ive gathered so far is that the trilogy will give me the boost off the line that im looking for compared to the procharger/vortec that will give me the power in 3rd and 4th gear....sound about right?

Not so much the gear but the rpm range where each blower makes its power.
Centrifugals don't really start to make boost (= torque) until @ 2,800 -> 3,000 rpm, then they make a LOT of power from 4,000 -> 6,000+ rpm.
Positive displacement roots blowers make lots of boost (= torque) immediately @ 1,800 rpm -> 2,000 rpm and then the boost starts to fall off a little after 5,500 rpm.
Twin Screws (also a PD type blower) do NOT have the boost fall off at high rpms, and are more efficient than a roots blower.
For a 'daily driver' blower I would have to say that the standard Trilogy kit is the best...although I have NOT gotten to drive a Trilogy Twin Screw yet.

[Hotrauder]

Actually it is 204 as of Yesterday morning..who knows now? :D Dennis