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ctrlraven
05-10-2009, 06:16 PM
Update: DDMtuning now only sells their Apexcone V2 HID kit. For the MM, CV or GM you do not need an HID Harness, Error code eliminator or Adapter cables. If order the 9007 hi/low beam kit it will automatically come with an HID accessory harness. Base kit starts at $30, add $20 for the hi/low function. Cost a little more than a pair of Silverstars or Silverstar Ultras, will out last the halogen bulb and includes a lifetime warranty.



So back in the fall one of my low beams went out on my old McCulloch bi-xenon hid kit. Didn't have the time to wait for another kit to be shipped since I had already gone past the 1 yr warranty date. Bought a pair of silverstars and went on my way. Another forum I am on which has a vast range of vehicles on it, I saw a lot of the Euro owners buying HID kits from a place called www.ddmtuning.com (http://www.ddmtuning.com). Checked their site out a while back and then last week I finally decided to buy another kit cause I have a hard time seeing the road at night, my lights were just not bright enough for me.

DDMtuning has kits for dirt cheap and offer LIFETIME WARRANTY. Ordered the kit last Monday and came in on Friday. After work I went home got my kit and headed to my shop to install it.

I was highly impressed with the quality of the product. The kits come in 35w and 55 watt output.

9007 35w High/Low Bi-Xenon 6000k kit
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF25981024x768.jpg

Ballast
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF25991024x768.jpg

35w Igniter
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26001024x768.jpg

9007 bulb
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26011024x768.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26051024x768.jpg
Remove cover and trim ring, place factory lock ring on then put trim ring back on.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26061024x768.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26071024x768.jpg

HID Accesory kit (which I thought I might need but wasted $25 on it...oh well. Helps to ensure 100% total power to the ballast and igniters since some oem systems can't handle the load, especially with a 55w kit)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26021024x768.jpg

ctrlraven
05-10-2009, 06:21 PM
Back of headlamp housing
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26041024x768.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26081024x768.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26091024x768.jpg

Mounted ballast and igniter
Driver's side
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26111024x768.jpg

Passenger side, now the difference with this kit and others that I have seen, this only uses ONE factory headlamp connection for both lights as a remote turn on for the kit.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26121024x768.jpg

Updated 11/30/2010
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3588/1127101804.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26141024x768.jpg

Connect 12v to Aux post (connect ground to battery ground post)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26151024x768.jpg

Zip tie crossover cables that run from passenger to driver side
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26161024x768.jpg

Tada lights
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26171024x768.jpg

Glenn
05-10-2009, 06:21 PM
Thanks - nice mod post - look good. How much were they? Any night driving commnets.

Glenn Ford :burnout:

ctrlraven
05-10-2009, 06:25 PM
The only issues so far was having to remove the battery to properly place the passenger side ballast which was no big deal and I think they have the high/low connection wrong because on a normal bi-xenon kit when high beam is turned on a actuator will tilt the bulb as to shift the light horizon beam up. Mine isn't doing that and actually seems to point downward. I'm going to call their tech support tomorrow and discuss it with them.

In the meantime if anyone has a headlight wiring diagram to show which wire is hot, low and high beam that would be a big help and I can just take care of it myself.

Standard single beam 9007 kit will be $70.00 plus shipping, add $25.00 for the high/low conversion but still for under $100 and lifetime warranty you can't beat it. Can't wait to replace the fog lamps next.

ctrlraven
05-10-2009, 06:27 PM
Thanks - nice mod post - look good. How much were they? Any night driving commnets.

Glenn Ford :burnout:I love HIDs at night because the vision horizon is much wider than standard halogen lights. I can easily spot more animals on the side of the road, read street signs further away and just see more. The more you see at night the safer you can feel.

CKMustangCobra
05-10-2009, 06:28 PM
I have been thinking about this mod for a while now. Not sure what kit to go with... this looks like a nice kit. I NEED low beams and high beams... tough to come by with HIDs.

ctrlraven
05-10-2009, 06:37 PM
I have been thinking about this mod for a while now. Not sure what kit to go with... this looks like a nice kit. I NEED low beams and high beams... tough to come by with HIDs.
Bi-Xenon means high/low but you want the 9007 kit. If I can get my high/low issue figured out pretty quickly without hassle I will recommend this kit highly. I really think the high/low plug prongs are just backwards and then while on low beam adjust the headlight up some and it will be good to go. But honestly if you did low beam and fog lights with proper aiming you really won't need high beams unless you do long dark stretches of roads like I do.

sanco
05-10-2009, 06:51 PM
the only issue i have with the cheap kits is that if you try to claim your "warranty" good luck with that. i had very bad experiances with that, i sent the payment to him to even ship the lights back and never heard from him again. tried reporting the seller to ebay and paypal told me to shove it. everything about the seller seemed legit but if you have an issue, he is nowhere to be found. btw the seller is still selling on ebay.

ctrlraven
05-10-2009, 06:55 PM
the only issue i have with the cheap kits is that if you try to claim your "warranty" good luck with that. i had very bad experiances with that, i sent the payment to him to even ship the lights back and never heard from him again. tried reporting the seller to ebay and paypal told me to shove it. everything about the seller seemed legit but if you have an issue, he is nowhere to be found. btw the seller is still selling on ebay.
This isn't an ebay company and the people I know with these kits already are going on 3-4 years with them. Their return policy is pretty simple, they have you trouble shoot as much as you can first and if there is still a problem you get a RMA (Return Merch. Auth), ship it back to them, they ship you new stuff, that simple.

Glenn
05-10-2009, 07:32 PM
CR:

Keep us informed on your progress - most interesting. A very reasonable kit for the price.

Glenn :burnout:

mohammed
05-11-2009, 04:51 AM
Well done Nice hide

ctrlraven
05-11-2009, 05:33 AM
Thank you.

FrankJAG
05-11-2009, 05:54 AM
Nice job, they look great!
IIRC a few guys on CVN have used this product as well.

ctrlraven
05-11-2009, 06:44 AM
Oh and btw all the wires come with the wire loom covering all the main power wires and etc which is really nice also, my last kit that was $300+ didn't come with power/ground/in-line fuse/wire loom/double sided tape for ballast and instructions lol.

Online instructions, to get an idea of the install. http://www.ddmtuning.com/content/techtips/9004-07hilow.pdf

ChiTownMaraud3r
05-11-2009, 12:59 PM
Feel like getting this, keep us posted on the hi/low beam concern you have. Oh and where is that Aux post for the positive?

ctrlraven
05-11-2009, 01:50 PM
Feel like getting this, keep us posted on the hi/low beam concern you have. Oh and where is that Aux post for the positive?
Oh I will, I did my own troubleshooting and didn't get anywhere with it so I emailed their tech support. The Aux 12v post is on the engine bay fuse box on the side behind the positive battery terminal under a little cover, just have to pop it off and you'll see it, there is a hot wire running from the positive terminal to it. If you're not worried about having high beams as some other members aren't then it's a great kit for $70 plus shipping with the lifetime warranty you can't beat it.

FrankJAG
05-11-2009, 02:43 PM
Following your progress with great interest!

ctrlraven
05-18-2009, 12:04 PM
All it took was 2-3 emails and problem is fixed. The high beam and low beam were activating backwards. Went to the plug in front of the radiator, pulled the rubber grommet out, pulled the red locking tab out of the connector, pulled the BLUE/WHITE (low beam) and GREEN/BLACK (high beam) pins out and swapped them, put everything back together and good to go now. The system only uses one side OEM connection to run both lights and used the passenger side because the battery is right there. Just have to remember to change those two pins back if myself or anyone else uses halogen bulbs.



Hello Chris,

What we think you can do is switch the pins for a high/low wiring. The bulbs are activating backwards, meaning the high beam is suppose to position and move "back" instead of a foward motion.

Looking at the base so it's like a pyramid of the pinholes, place your GROUND pin into the middle, the HIGH BEAM on the left side, and the LOW BEAM on the right side.

Tell us if this works or not. Thank you

If your E-mail is URGENT, please call in. This is the fastest way to get your issue resolved.

(858) 565-1742
DDM Techsupport

"All good things come to he who waits."

mercury_1988
05-18-2009, 12:14 PM
Congrats :) .

FrankJAG
05-18-2009, 12:27 PM
Cool deal, let us know how it works at night with hi/lo now working. Pics if you can! ;-)

ctrlraven
05-18-2009, 01:32 PM
Sure thing, I just need to adjust my lights again and I'll try to get some night shots this week from inside the vehicle. I took some last week so I'll try and get them up tonight.

Going from halogen to HID is a world of difference. When I went back to halogen for a while I hated it and always worried I was going to hit some animal (deer) on this one road I travel for about 7-8 miles, even now there is 4-5 deer on the side of the road. Already hit one and got lucky, would rather not hit another one. My main reason for them is not to look cool (well it does) but for a safety factor, the more you can see (length and width wise of the road) the more time you have to react to something.

FrankJAG
05-18-2009, 01:45 PM
The OEM lighting in these panthers leaves much to be desired thats for sure.
I think we all realize that the OEM reflectors are not made for HIDs; these are a reasonable enough of a deal to try anyways.
As Raven says he does have more light output and that is way better than what we currently have. Support is definately there. Now its just a test of time.

Price is right, I might delve into a set of these very soon!

ctrlraven
05-18-2009, 02:21 PM
OEM reflectors are fine as long as you re-aim the lights down some below the oem set level or what they would be from factory. I left mine at the same level I had my Silverstar Ultra's at had several people flash me. Re aim the lights and no one has flashed me and haven't seen anyone adjust their mirrors either. I had another kit in for a while and re-aimed them and even had friends tell me they were bright but we're compared brightness/annoyances to vehicles with OEM HIDs.

This is the procedure I use to aim my headlights.

http://www.coolbulbs.com/HID-VISUAL-HEADLIGHT-AIMING-PROCEDURE.pdf

FrankJAG
05-18-2009, 02:29 PM
Sweet. Gonna have to pull the trigger on this one, it's a great deal.

ctrlraven
05-18-2009, 02:32 PM
I'll get some pics of the oem connectors with the wire pin swap soon.

FrankJAG
05-18-2009, 02:50 PM
Thanks amigo!

bigrocks85
05-18-2009, 05:52 PM
Here are some pics of my with hid head lights and fog!!!!!!!!
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/bigrocks85/l_e43ac73caf4a4102a47ba87bfe05 b247.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/bigrocks85/alex.jpg

FrankJAG
05-18-2009, 07:27 PM
What color temp are you using?

bigrocks85
05-18-2009, 10:21 PM
They are the 8k

Glockafella
05-18-2009, 10:29 PM
That truck has HIDs too...

WESTTXPATRIOT
05-19-2009, 10:00 AM
I love HID's I got 9007 10k bixenon in mine. foglights coming soon!

ctrlraven
05-19-2009, 11:44 AM
The higher the number the more color the light will emit but will produce less light output than a lesser K temp. 6000k is usually happy medium.
4300k is OEM HID with a slight hue of yellow, 5000k is almost all white, 6000k has a slight hue of blue and so on.

FrankJAG
05-19-2009, 12:16 PM
The higher the number the more color the light will emit but will produce less light output than a lesser K temp. 6000k is usually happy medium.
4300k is OEM HID with a slight hue of yellow, 5000k is almost all white, 6000k has a slight hue of blue and so on.
Thanks for that. I was considering 5000k temp; seems like a good balance to me. I don't care for a blue tint.

ctrlraven
05-19-2009, 12:50 PM
Just for example purpose. My previous kit was a McCulloch 6000k bi-xenon

http://www.xenonking.com/cat_images/Bimmer3000K.jpg
The 3000K McCulloch Bi Xenon HID bulbs (Bi Xenon means low and high beam) have an approximately 3200lm output, which is more than 3x the light output of the traditional halogen light. 3000K High Intensity Discharge emits GOLDEN YELLOW color and offers superior penetration power during adverse weather especially in dense fog. The applications of the 3000K high intensity discharge kit / lights aim more towards secondary lighting apparatus such as high beam and fog lights. The 3000K H.I.D. capsule is actually a 5000K capsule specially coated with a film that filters out all the wave length except the range of wave length which emits yellow.

http://www.xenonking.com/cat_images/Bimmer5000K.jpg
The McCulloch 5000K Bi Xenon HID car kit (Bi Xenon means low and high beam) has an approximately 3200lm output, which is more than 3x the light output of the traditional halogen light and is the color temperature with the most output. The H.I.D. light appears fairly white, and has light yellowish hue when reflected off the road identical to the OEM HID equipped vehicles. This color is for customers who are looking for pure performance while improving the looks of their headlight. It is ideal for customers who do a lot of back road or canyon driving and need the optimal visibility these High Intensity Discharge lights / system provide.

http://www.xenonking.com/cat_images/Bimmer6000K.jpg
The McCulloch 6000K Bi Xenon bulb HID Car Kit (Bi Xenon means low and high beam) has an approximately 2800lm output, which is 3x the light output of the traditional halogen light and slightly less light output compared to the 5000K High Intensity Discharge bulbs. Although it has a bit lesser light output, it emits pure whiter light with very slight and barely noticeable tint of blue. H.I.D is excellent for fog and rainy conditions.

http://www.xenonking.com/cat_images/Bimmer8000K.jpg
The McCulloch 8000K Bi Xenon High Intensity Discharge light system (Bi Xenon means low and high beam) has approximately 2550lm output, which is about 3x the light output of the traditional halogen light and slightly less light output compared to the 6000K HID kit. While it has a bit lesser light output, it emits bluer light than the 6000K HID light.


http://www.xenonking.com/cat_images/Bimmer10000K.jpg
The McCulloch 10000K Bi Xenon HID Automobile System (BI Xenon means low and high beam) has an approximately 2200lm output, which is more than 2x the light output of the traditional halogen light. 10000K HID produces a deep blue light output approaching violet and the blue is noticeably deeper than the 8000K High Intensity Discharge bulb.

http://www.xenonking.com/cat_images/Bimmer12000K.jpg
The McCulloch 12000K Bi Xenon HID kit (Bi Xenon means low and high beam) for cars, import cars and other similar uses, has an approximately 2100lm output, which is more than 2x the light output of the traditional halogen light. This color temperature puts out a deep bluish violet light and is deeper colored than the 10000K H.I.D. It is for customer who is looking for the most extreme and most exotic looking high Intensity Discharge light output system.

Vortech347
05-19-2009, 01:25 PM
A few of my friends are running their kits. Seem pretty good. I may ditch my setup for one of them. The highbeams in mine suck ass and sometimes I have to flip the lights on a few times cause either one of them won't totally come on.

ctrlraven
05-19-2009, 02:00 PM
A few of my friends are running their kits. Seem pretty good. I may ditch my setup for one of them. The highbeams in mine suck ass and sometimes I have to flip the lights on a few times cause either one of them won't totally come on.
Running ddmtuning.com kits? Try cleaning your connectors if you haven't already?

Windsor58
05-19-2009, 05:46 PM
Do the 55W kits run too hot for the factory housings?

ctrlraven
05-19-2009, 05:55 PM
It would be my guess probably, not something I'd be willing to test lol.

Vortech347
05-19-2009, 08:51 PM
Running ddmtuning.com kits? Try cleaning your connectors if you haven't already?

DDM yup. Good reviews

bigrocks85
05-19-2009, 10:11 PM
that truck has hids too...
the truck is pimp out too with hi and low beam hid!!!!!
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/bigrocks85/DSC01120.jpg

Breadfan
05-21-2009, 06:36 AM
How quick do these fire up when you turn the lights on?

ctrlraven
05-21-2009, 09:10 AM
I'll take a video of their igniting for you.


I'll have pics and video up in the next few days since I can relax with the holiday weekend ahead.

Breadfan
05-21-2009, 09:25 AM
Sweet thanks - I'm very close to ordering. Also thinking of getting the extra wiring harness so I can run a relay system off the LCM - wouldn't that be a good idea considering the weak headlight relays in the LCM? (I already have to fix that anyway, lol)

ctrlraven
05-21-2009, 10:22 AM
I ordered the extra wiring harness and wasn't needed. The OEM headlamp connection is used as a remote turn on only. The High/Low kit comes with a fuse power wire (14 gauge) and same gauge size ground wire.

The extra HID accessory wiring harness they sell would be vehicles that their OEM headlamp wiring can not support the load and allows direct power up from the battery to ignite the lights.

Breadfan
05-21-2009, 10:56 AM
Oh, I gotcha, so the oem wires to the headlamp only activate a relay on the HID wriing kit that comes with the HID setup - which I see in your pics you tied direct to the power output off the fuse box - if that's the case then yeah I can see it wouldn't be needed, and it sounds like it actually takes load OFF of the oem wiring and oem LCM relay - correct?

ctrlraven
05-21-2009, 11:15 AM
Most OEM wiring can not handle the initial igniting of the bulbs and that is where the fused power source comes into play to light the bulbs correctly and reliably.

OEM wiring still provides power to the lights but for their lighting output it's less of a load or comparible to plain jane halogens with 3x more light output. I've gone WOT several times and did not see the lights dim down at all like when normal halogens are installed.

Breadfan
05-21-2009, 11:40 AM
Awesome, sounds good.

I've got to replace the stock relay in the LCM still too, I'm doing a larger 30/40amp relay there with a pigtail, that should get me sqaured away without having to do anything additional.

Thanks for answering all my ?'s!!

ctrlraven
05-21-2009, 11:49 AM
No problem at all, glad I had some answers lol.

FrankJAG
05-21-2009, 01:54 PM
I appreciate the info as well!
I am going to pull the trigger this pay day. The wife and I are getting sick and tired of the lousy stock lights. Going to add HID's to the wife's car as well.

DJCV
05-21-2009, 05:51 PM
I'm still not clear on the relay issue.

I am running an aftermarket (SUVLights) relay set-up going to my OEM headlamps. Great upgrade in light output over no relays, but I'm interested in HIDs.

Will I be smart to KEEP my relays in conjunction with this HID set-up, or are my relays redundant with this HID kit?

FrankJAG
05-21-2009, 06:40 PM
Couldn't hurt thats for sure. If anything since you already have the relay set-up you could run the higher wattage HIDs if you needed too.

Breadfan
05-22-2009, 05:34 AM
I agree it can't hurt, and shouldn't complicate the install.

DJCV
05-22-2009, 08:19 AM
Just for example purpose. My previous kit was a McCulloch 6000k bi-xenon

Why did you move away from the McCulloch kit??

Joe Walsh
05-22-2009, 08:49 AM
Good write up Chris!
I have a set of PIAA bulbs that I've been happy with...much better than the OEM bulbs. (Brighter & Whiter light)
I never seriously considered an HID conversion because I didn't want to 'hack up' my OEM wiring.
It looks like the kit you use is very well thought out, and 'plug & play'.
I'll need to check out your Marauder soon to see how those lights look in person.

ctrlraven
05-22-2009, 11:53 AM
Why did you move away from the McCulloch kit??Price of their product and at the time they only had a 1 yr warranty, now I believe they have a 2 yr warranty only with the purchase of a full kit. DDM 9007 high/low kit - $95/lifetime warranty vs. McCulloch 9007 high/low kit - $299.99/2 yr warranty.....you do the math. You could buy 3 DDM kits for the price of one McCulloch kit.


Good write up Chris!
I have a set of PIAA bulbs that I've been happy with...much better than the OEM bulbs. (Brighter & Whiter light)
I never seriously considered an HID conversion because I didn't want to 'hack up' my OEM wiring.
It looks like the kit you use is very well thought out, and 'plug & play'.
I'll need to check out your Marauder soon to see how those lights look in person.
No hacking up any OEM wiring, when my last kit went up it took me maybe 15-20 mins to go back to stock halogen lights, all of the stuff is plug and play now. I'll be at the Safford L/M show and you can check it all out then but it's a wonderful upgrade and cost wise compared to Silverstar/PIAA bulbs over the lifetime of the vehicle these DDM HIDs will save you money. Unless you rarely drive the car. I do 22-25k miles a year and before I got HIDs I had already gone through 2 pairs of Silverstar headlight bulbs.

Joe Walsh
05-22-2009, 12:50 PM
Price of their product and at the time they only had a 1 yr warranty, now I believe they have a 2 yr warranty only with the purchase of a full kit. DDM 9007 high/low kit - $95/lifetime warranty vs. McCulloch 9007 high/low kit - $299.99/2 yr warranty.....you do the math. You could buy 3 DDM kits for the price of one McCulloch kit.


No hacking up any OEM wiring, when my last kit went up it took me maybe 15-20 mins to go back to stock halogen lights, all of the stuff is plug and play now. I'll be at the Safford L/M show and you can check it all out then but it's a wonderful upgrade and cost wise compared to Silverstar/PIAA bulbs over the lifetime of the vehicle these DDM HIDs will save you money. Unless you rarely drive the car. I do 22-25k miles a year and before I got HIDs I had already gone through 2 pairs of Silverstar headlight bulbs.

I hear ya!
PIAAs last only so long...but my Marauder is not a daily driver, so the bulbs have lasted for years.
My other car has PIAAs and is daily driven...I have replaced at least 2 sets of bulbs so far....:mad:
I might convert my daily driver to HIDs first!

ctrlraven
05-22-2009, 01:47 PM
If you can build that Cobra then HIDs will be cake walk for you to do.

Local Boy
05-23-2009, 07:36 PM
Thanks for the write-up...

I'm sold...

Mine should be coming soon...

Aloha...

DJCV
05-24-2009, 11:57 AM
Price of their product and at the time they only had a 1 yr warranty, now I believe they have a 2 yr warranty only with the purchase of a full kit. DDM 9007 high/low kit - $95/lifetime warranty vs. McCulloch 9007 high/low kit - $299.99/2 yr warranty.....you do the math. You could buy 3 DDM kits for the price of one McCulloch kit.

Sorry...I'm confused.

I thought from your writings that you originally had the McCulloch kit(?). If so, why did you remove it?

ctrlraven
05-24-2009, 06:08 PM
Sorry...I'm confused.

I thought from your writings that you originally had the McCulloch kit(?). If so, why did you remove it?Yeah I had their kit up till last Oct. when one of the bulbs went up. I was well pass their one year warranty so I put Silverstars back in until I couldn't take their crappy output compared to HIDs so I broke down and bought another kit after researching DDMtuning kits.

FrankJAG
05-30-2009, 08:05 AM
Pulled the trigger on my set this morning. Looking forward to having more light now!

gate500gr
05-30-2009, 09:50 AM
Hmmm... I think I've just found my next mod. Thank You for sharing this.

FrankJAG
05-30-2009, 10:12 AM
I'll get some pics of the oem connectors with the wire pin swap soon.
Did you manage to snag pics of that amigo? :D

twin03
05-30-2009, 10:39 AM
Good job Chris...........

Local Boy
05-30-2009, 09:38 PM
A picture speaks a thousand words...

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15 963&stc=1&d=1243746792

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15 964&stc=1&d=1243746792

Thanks for the tip...

ALOHA...

Glockafella
05-30-2009, 10:57 PM
is that a mach 1 chin spoiler?

bigrocks85
05-30-2009, 11:33 PM
You just need to do the fog lights

a picture speaks a thousand words...

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15 963&stc=1&d=1243746792

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15 964&stc=1&d=1243746792

thanks for a tip...

Aloha...

Local Boy
05-31-2009, 11:23 AM
10-4 on the spoiler...

Fog's ? Patience....Grasshopper...

ALOHA

bigrocks85
05-31-2009, 11:54 PM
They look bad ass when you driving at night

Local Boy
06-01-2009, 07:51 AM
Fog's will be arriving shortly...

ALOHA

ctrlraven
06-01-2009, 09:00 AM
Fog's will be arriving shortly...

ALOHA

How are your high beams? Does the light beams shift up properly?

ctrlraven
06-01-2009, 09:02 AM
Did you manage to snag pics of that amigo? :D
I have all the pics, work was crazy last week and I was in Dallas for a few days also. I'll have it all up tonight for sure.

FrankJAG
06-01-2009, 11:12 AM
Sweet thanks amigo, I really appreciate it!

ctrlraven
06-01-2009, 06:22 PM
Hello Chris,

What we think you can do is switch the pins for a high/low wiring. The bulbs are activating backwards, meaning the high beam is suppose to position and move "back" instead of a foward motion.

Looking at the base so it's like a pyramid of the pinholes, place your GROUND pin into the middle, the HIGH BEAM on the left side, and the LOW BEAM on the right side.

Tell us if this works or not. Thank you

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All it took was 2-3 emails and problem is fixed. The high beam and low beam were activating backwards. Went to the plug in front of the radiator, pulled the rubber grommet out, pulled the red locking tab out of the connector, pulled the BLUE/WHITE (low beam) and GREEN/BLACK (high beam) pins out and swapped them, put everything back together and good to go now. The system only uses one side OEM connection to run both lights and I used the passenger side because the battery is right there. Just have to remember to change those two pins back if myself or anyone else uses halogen bulbs.

Pictures of LowBeam/HighBeam pin swap. I would suggest before doing this to hook everything up normally and have someone inside the car to turn the lights on and watch to see if when HighBeam is activated the bulbs moves BACK into the bulb base, if it does then it's correct. If the bulb moves FORWARD out of the bulb base then the pins will have to be swapped.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/DDM%20Tuning%20HIDs/DSCF26591024x768.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/DDM%20Tuning%20HIDs/DSCF26601024x768.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/DDM%20Tuning%20HIDs/DSCF26611024x768.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/DDM%20Tuning%20HIDs/DSCF26621024x768.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/DDM%20Tuning%20HIDs/DSCF26631024x768.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/DDM%20Tuning%20HIDs/DSCF26641024x768.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/DDM%20Tuning%20HIDs/DSCF26651024x768.jpg

ctrlraven
06-01-2009, 06:23 PM
Night time shots from driver's seat with fogs on. My camera had a hard time trying to focus from behind the windshield, they are must clearer in person and just a tad more brighter. This is low beam.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/DDM%20Tuning%20HIDs/DSCF26411024x768.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/DDM%20Tuning%20HIDs/DSCF26421024x768.jpg

FrankJAG
06-01-2009, 07:24 PM
You da man, thanks a bunch!
Man, that looks really nice and bright.

Local Boy
06-05-2009, 02:21 PM
Originally Posted by Local Boy http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=765802#post76 5802)
Fog's will be arriving shortly...

ALOHA
How are your high beams? Does the light beams shift up properly?
__________________

I went with just the low...I really never use the highs...

For $70 bucks...You can't go wrong!

Thanks again for the tip...:beer:

ALOHA

BTW: The fog's are in...;)

ctrlraven
06-05-2009, 05:04 PM
Local Boy, you just got the single beam kit?

fastblackmerc
06-05-2009, 05:56 PM
Local Boy, you just got the single beam kit?

You gotta spend the extra $'s and get the hi & lo kit (4 ballasts).

Local Boy
06-05-2009, 07:08 PM
Yup, just single beam...

ALOHA

ctrlraven
06-05-2009, 07:34 PM
You gotta spend the extra $'s and get the hi & lo kit (4 ballasts).
No.

Cost is $25 extra total of $95 for the Bi-Xenon High/Low kit. It's 2 bulbs, 2 ballasts.

This is the 9007 High/Low kit, the harness to the right is the high/low relay switch with wiring.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF25981024x768.jpg

DJCV
07-18-2009, 01:44 PM
I'm about to pull the trigger on this myself, but I'm concerned about making the upside-down Hi/Low (bi-xenon) rightside-up.
Can you please tell me again how you switch the pins to make it function properly....if they ship it 'backwards?'

J.bo
07-21-2009, 01:03 PM
Does the fogs use the same kit?

ctrlraven
07-21-2009, 08:26 PM
I'm about to pull the trigger on this myself, but I'm concerned about making the upside-down Hi/Low (bi-xenon) rightside-up.
Can you please tell me again how you switch the pins to make it function properly....if they ship it 'backwards?'
It's much easier to describe if you were actually looking at the plug. I could walk you through it over the phone if you wanted.


Does the fogs use the same kit?
For the fogs you would need a single beam ballast with an H1 bulb. Modification to the fog light housing will probably be needed, not sure what exactly since I haven't ventured that route yet.

gate500gr
08-18-2009, 08:51 AM
Thanks for telling us about these. Mine arrived yesterday. Installed them this morning. Love them so far, can't wait to test em out tonight.

Taemian
08-18-2009, 11:14 AM
Here are some pics of my with hid head lights and fog!!!!!!!!
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/bigrocks85/l_e43ac73caf4a4102a47ba87bfe05 b247.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/bigrocks85/alex.jpg

Which kit are you using for your foglights (driving lights, I know I know).
I'd been looking for a plug in kit, but ended up putting high dollar Hella halogen projectors in for now...which I LOVE, but would love to swap the halogen bulbs for an HID set up.

ctrlraven
08-18-2009, 03:11 PM
It's just a H1 bulb HID kit and probably the same color temp as the headlights which look like 6000k or maybe 8000k.

ChiTownMaraud3r
10-28-2009, 08:17 PM
Ctrlraven, have you had any issues with this kit now that you have had it for a few months?

I ordered a set for my buddy, but he only needed a single kit, it was extremely easy to install, literally plug and play.

So I'm about ready to order 2 kits for the MM and a kit for my Ninja, but in your honest opinion is it worth the extra cash and hassle(wiring) to go with the bi hi/lo kit? I saw on their website it will depend on the headlamp housing of different cars how much more the bi kit will illuminate when brights on. Do you visually see it illuminate higher?

fastblackmerc
10-29-2009, 01:04 AM
Ctrlraven, have you had any issues with this kit now that you have had it for a few months?

I ordered a set for my buddy, but he only needed a single kit, it was extremely easy to install, literally plug and play.

So I'm about ready to order 2 kits for the MM and a kit for my Ninja, but in your honest opinion is it worth the extra cash and hassle(wiring) to go with the bi hi/lo kit? I saw on their website it will depend on the headlamp housing of different cars how much more the bi kit will illuminate when brights on. Do you visually see it illuminate higher?

I went the Bi-Xeon route. Yes, IMHO, it is worth the extra $$'s and time to install the 2 extra ballasts. Mine work just like the stock lights. You can see farther down the road, in fact, the Hi beams look like they will burn a hole in the car in front of me if I got too close. :eek:

ctrlraven
10-29-2009, 12:45 PM
I'll always get a Bi-xenon kit if my vehicle requires it.

Bi-Xenon kits do not require an extra ballast, a kit for our car should only have one for each side and the correct bulb which has the built in actuator for low/high movement.

252life
10-29-2009, 11:14 PM
If you get a "9007 4" kit you get 4 ballast (each bulb has 2 tubes, no solenoid)

http://stores.shop.ebay.com/All-size-All-color__W0QQ_armrsZ1?_fcid=192&_localstpos=&_sid=636996091&_sticky=1&_stpos=&gbr=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/50W-55W-SLIM-BI-XENON-HID-KIT-9007-4-HB5-Dual-Beam-New_W0QQitemZ130336196675QQcmd ZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain _0?hash=item1e58a48843

http://i26.tinypic.com/2zowxgp.jpg

http://www.china-hid-lights.com/productpic/pb_oxi51212052675.jpg

fastblackmerc
10-30-2009, 02:53 AM
If you get a "9007 4" kit you get 4 ballast (each bulb has 2 tubes, no solenoid)

http://stores.shop.ebay.com/All-size-All-color__W0QQ_armrsZ1?_fcid=192&_localstpos=&_sid=636996091&_sticky=1&_stpos=&gbr=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/50W-55W-SLIM-BI-XENON-HID-KIT-9007-4-HB5-Dual-Beam-New_W0QQitemZ130336196675QQcmd ZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain _0?hash=item1e58a48843

http://i26.tinypic.com/2zowxgp.jpg

http://www.china-hid-lights.com/productpic/pb_oxi51212052675.jpg

+1... we don't need no stinkin' solenoids.....

ChiTownMaraud3r
10-31-2009, 09:56 AM
For those that have done the fog lamps, where did you tie down the ballasts and stuff down there?

4play
11-01-2009, 08:06 PM
thats weird, I bought a Kit from retro solutions, todd is great he gives life time warrenties on both bulbs and ballests plus he carries 55watt kit's his 9007 bixeon kit is all plug and play just plug it in to the factory harness mount the 2 ballests your done. his 9007 bulbs physically move in and out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrR1ozc1LA0&feature=related it's hard on the bulb to shut it of and on all the time, like every time a car passes you, it wont be long before your bulb quit's, also he has variable ballests where you can turn up or down the brightnes via a nobb inside the car, so you dont blind others my 55watt bixeon kit was 160 shipped to canada shipping in the states is free i believe. plus I guess his kit's are digital so when they ignite it uses verry little power which I do believe because they do power up differently then other brands i've seen. http://www.retrosolutionsllc.com/servlet/StoreFront

4play
11-01-2009, 08:17 PM
also i'll give you a warning about the color of the kit's, if you do alot of night driving, and your buying an HID kit for the brightness and not for looks, dont go any warmer then 5000K at first I had 6000K's installed but I sent those back, driving in the country for more then an hour my head was splitting and my eyes got real strained, the most un natural color is Blue and thats the color your eye's cant see sh*it in the wave legnth scatters really bad thats why blue hid light's blind you soo much, it's not that there brighter (infact their dimmer) it's that the light scatters all over the place when it should be directed on the road, right now i'm running 4300K which is a dream to drive at night. I can drive for hours and hours and not have my eye's strain also 4300K is the brightest hid bulb you can get, the lumans are about 500 higher then 8000K, and it still look's bluish compared to factory halogen.

bigrocks85
11-03-2009, 05:55 PM
Which kit are you using for your foglights (driving lights, I know I know).
I'd been looking for a plug in kit, but ended up putting high dollar Hella halogen projectors in for now...which I LOVE, but would love to swap the halogen bulbs for an HID set up.

Sorry it took me this long to repiled but you have to custom fit a 9006 kit by shave 2 of the ears a little and it works

bigrocks85
11-03-2009, 05:57 PM
Here is 2 more pics of my car with the HID lights
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/bigrocks85/FAMILY%20PICS/marauder.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/bigrocks85/FAMILY%20PICS/marauder1.jpg

LANDY
11-03-2009, 06:05 PM
looks really nice. i want them

fastblackmerc
11-03-2009, 06:07 PM
For those that have done the fog lamps, where did you tie down the ballasts and stuff down there?

Plenty of space behind, above and below the foglights. Or lengthen the wires and you can mount the ballasts anywhere.

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-13-2009, 08:40 PM
Just ordered four kits for my Rauder and Ninja, and a kit for my buddies Bimmer, can't wait for monday to put em on.

LSp8
11-14-2009, 05:52 AM
My kit does not come with the low/high beam feature, nor do i need it with 15k lol do they sell the kit for the fog lights?

fastblackmerc
11-14-2009, 07:15 AM
My kit does not come with the low/high beam feature, nor do i need it with 15k lol do they sell the kit for the fog lights?

Get an H1 kit for the foglights. You will have to modify the foglight to accept the H1 bulb. As soon as I get one more new foglight I'll post about my install.

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-14-2009, 08:25 PM
I ordered an H1 for the fogs, but had no idea it would need to be modified..? How much modification is needed for this to work?

fastblackmerc
11-14-2009, 08:37 PM
I ordered an H1 for the fogs, but had no idea it would need to be modified..? How much modification is needed for this to work?

Someone posted pictures.

kmastl
11-14-2009, 08:52 PM
Here (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23566&highlight=HID) are the intstructions for making the H1 hid fit our H1fogs. I have followed these and it worked great.

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-15-2009, 10:24 PM
Awesome. Thanks for posting guys, can't wait to go at it tomorrow. I'll post pics of the Bike and Rauder with em installed.

bigrocks85
11-16-2009, 12:26 AM
Just ordered four kits for my Rauder and Ninja, and a kit for my buddies Bimmer, can't wait for monday to put em on.
Here is my bike and my bothers all with the 8k hids

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/bigrocks85/DSC00164.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/bigrocks85/DSC00165.jpg

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-17-2009, 04:13 PM
I'm a sucker for bikes man, I put 5k miles on mine since getting it in june this year.

HIDs look so good on them. I'll post up pics when I finish istalling all of them, I only had time to do the MMs headlights.

bigrocks85
11-18-2009, 01:11 AM
Cool man!!!!!! hope to see them pics soon

Makadamian
11-23-2009, 12:22 PM
Here is my bike and my bothers all with the 8k hids

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/bigrocks85/DSC00164.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/bigrocks85/DSC00165.jpg

I could tell that's Cali just from the pics. The lights look good on the bikes!

bigrocks85
11-24-2009, 01:20 AM
Yes sir you are right SoCal

Serge
11-24-2009, 06:04 AM
HID you say?

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/766859/original/dsc_4861.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/766860/original/dsc_4863.jpg

ctrlraven
11-24-2009, 06:36 AM
^Projectors.

DJCV
11-24-2009, 03:30 PM
Regarding the DDMTuning kit---which are on sale now!---are the relays they offer recommended for the 35W kit or are these overkill??

breeze
11-24-2009, 03:32 PM
i put HIDs on mine in they make my fogs look yellow because how crystal white they look...

ctrlraven
11-24-2009, 04:09 PM
Regarding the DDMTuning kit---which are on sale now!---are the relays they offer recommended for the 35W kit or are these overkill??
Wow yeah they are on sale, hot dang I'm ordering my other kits this week!

This is the kit you want (35w)
http://www.ddmtuning.com/products/DDM_Slim_Ballast_HID_Kit_35W_o r_55W-101-85.html

Bulb size 9007 (I highly recommend getting the Hi/Lo kit)

As far as color 4500 to 6000k, anything past 6000k is a waste since the color is noticeably more (to cops) but the actual light output is less.

You do not need to order any other accessory or wiring kit from them. I ordered their HID accessory wiring kit just in case I needed it and it was not needed. Just review the instructions about swapping the low/high beam pins in the factory plug since their kit works backwards regarding low/high beam activation.

fastblackmerc
11-24-2009, 04:54 PM
Wow yeah they are on sale, hot dang I'm ordering my other kits this week!

This is the kit you want (35w)
http://www.ddmtuning.com/products/DDM_Slim_Ballast_HID_Kit_35W_o r_55W-101-85.html

Bulb size 9007 (I highly recommend getting the Hi/Lo kit)

As far as color 4500 to 6000k, anything past 6000k is a waste since the color is noticeably more (to cops) but the actual light output is less.

You do not need to order any other accessory or wiring kit from them. I ordered their HID accessory wiring kit just in case I needed it and it was not needed. Just review the instructions about swapping the low/high beam pins in the factory plug since their kit works backwards regarding low/high beam activation.
What kind of bulbs do they use for the Hi/Lo?

HID Lo / Halogen Hi?

Moveable HID?

HID Lo / HID Hi?

ctrlraven
11-24-2009, 05:25 PM
What kind of bulbs do they use for the Hi/Lo?

HID Lo / Halogen Hi?

Moveable HID?

HID Lo / HID Hi?
Same bulb 9007 but the Hi/Lo kit comes with an actuator inside the light bulb that will slide the bulb in or out (can't remember) to shift the beam of light inside the halogen lens which.

It's a single bulb that shifts the light beam.

This is 9007 Hi/Low HID bulbs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeJ25pRJCv8
HeJ25pRJCv8

Watch at the 0:47 mark it's real quick where you can see high beam flick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtsguU-mHCUUtsguU-mHCU

Breadfan
11-24-2009, 05:59 PM
Holy crap $50!

Silverstars are like $45 a pair at the FLAPS.

Edit: $70 for the hi/lo kit, still a good deal, they were $95 perviously.

Glad I waited, I might have to get these finally.

Just curious has anyone tried the 55w version? I think it may be a tad overkill...esp. if you city drive, seems like it could get you a ticket perhaps.

Black_Noise
11-24-2009, 07:00 PM
Just ordered my hi/low kit....thanks guys for talking me into it. :banana2:

Serge
11-24-2009, 07:10 PM
Someone should try putting 3000k kit into the fog lights. Would make a pretty cool contrast with 600k or 8000k in the headlights.

Makadamian
11-25-2009, 12:11 AM
Got my kit today. Can't wait to install tomorrow!

bigrocks85
11-25-2009, 02:42 AM
Got my kit today. Can't wait to install tomorrow!
Post your pics when you done!!!!!

fastblackmerc
11-25-2009, 03:40 AM
Someone should try putting 3000k kit into the fog lights. Would make a pretty cool contrast with 600k or 8000k in the headlights.

Why don't you do it????

IMHO.... that will look like crap.

fastblackmerc
11-25-2009, 03:48 AM
Same bulb 9007 but the Hi/Lo kit comes with an actuator inside the light bulb that will slide the bulb in or out (can't remember) to shift the beam of light inside the halogen lens which.

It's a single bulb that shifts the light beam.

This is 9007 Hi/Low HID bulbs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeJ25pRJCv8
HeJ25pRJCv8

Watch at the 0:47 mark it's real quick where you can see high beam flick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtsguU-mHCUUtsguU-mHCU

:shake: :shake: :shake: :shake:

That's what I thought.

You need to do it the RIGHT way and get a HID kit that has two 9007 bulbs in the same socket, one for Hi, one for Lo and 4 ballasts.

Serge
11-25-2009, 05:30 AM
Why don't you do it????

IMHO.... that will look like crap.

Because I don't have any fog lights. lol

IMHO it looks sick.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/m3austin/bmw%20cars/CaryFrontLights.jpg

ctrlraven
11-25-2009, 11:29 AM
:shake: :shake: :shake: :shake:

That's what I thought.

You need to do it the RIGHT way and get a HID kit that has two 9007 bulbs in the same socket, one for Hi, one for Lo and 4 ballasts.
Actually the right way would be to retro fit a projector with an HID bulb. Real HID projectors do not change the power/light output, when high beam is activated a shield inside the projector moves down and allows more light to pass through, that's why real hid vehicles have a very defined light cut off. This is only the cause with Bi-Xenon projectors in which the vehicle does not have a halogen high beam setup.

Mechanics of a bi-xenon projector
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP4WXHmRpjs
iP4WXHmRpjs

Makadamian
11-25-2009, 09:15 PM
I just put my kit in today. Does anyone else have an issue with only one headlight turning on sometimes?

bhenderson
11-25-2009, 10:23 PM
Thanks for all the great discussion on the HID lights. You have convinced me to dumpt the halogens. I ordered a kit today. Can't beat that sale price. :)

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-25-2009, 10:45 PM
Cool man!!!!!! hope to see them pics soon

Sorry for the lack of update but the damn fog lights are a pain in the ass. Seems you have to cut up the stock connector and glue it together to the h1. Then you have to pull the fog light housing out and maybe modify it to carefully insert the hid bulb if you don't want to break it. I still haven't found time to finish them.

I should of listened to the one guy who said a 9006 fits with only cutting a tab off, stupid me..:mad2:

Heres my MM with 8k & stock fog lights before I butchered them. The car behind has 10k hids.
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/HomeyG745i/1117092046.jpg

Heres the Ninja done with 8ks, I also added a blue nose bulb, looks damn good.
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/HomeyG745i/1118091451.jpg

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/HomeyG745i/1118091452.jpg

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/HomeyG745i/1118091452b.jpg

I've only had the chance to take it out once cause of our ugly weather.

ctrlraven
11-26-2009, 12:26 AM
I just put my kit in today. Does anyone else have an issue with only one headlight turning on sometimes?

Double check all your connections. I used the passenger plug for the main turn. If you still have the problem switch the bulbs from each side, if the bulb that worked works in the other side but the other side doesn't then it is a bulb issue if there is no difference and the same side lights up it's the ballast.

Did you order a single beam kit or the high/low kit?

Makadamian
11-26-2009, 09:14 AM
I also used the passenger plug. I'm going to check all connections again. I ordered the hi lo kit. Other than that they look great at night. Ill post pics tonight

imorb1994
11-26-2009, 03:32 PM
Sorry for the lack of update but the damn fog lights are a pain in the ass. Seems you have to cut up the stock connector and glue it together to the h1. Then you have to pull the fog light housing out and maybe modify it to carefully insert the hid bulb if you don't want to break it. I still haven't found time to finish them.

I should of listened to the one guy who said a 9006 fits with only cutting a tab off, stupid me..:mad2:


Not true you still have to modify the housing, yes a tab is removed but the bulb is still to wide to fit. At least the standard halogen bulb is, not sure about a HID bulb.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/553/medium/108_0635.JPG (javascript:;)

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-26-2009, 03:47 PM
The standard bulbs are girthier than the hid bulbs. But some trimming is still needed I suspect.

Makadamian
11-26-2009, 06:42 PM
Ok my lights seem to be on point tonight after tightening up some connections. Heres a quick vid of them turning on. Cam on my iphone couldn't handle the light I guess so the color starts to look green after awhile but i think its from the cam not being able to focus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CutkUVpbwc

ctrlraven
11-27-2009, 01:38 PM
Just a very BIG tip to anyone that has HIDs in their headlights DO NOT turn them ON and then turn the car ON. Doing can spike the voltage to the ballast and over time it will burn the ballast out.

Always turn them on AFTER the vehicle has been started so for everyone that leaves your lights on AUTO I would advise against it. Just a helpful tip, not that it's happen to me but just something I have been told as a wise idea to prolong the life of the equipment.

bob6364
11-27-2009, 03:06 PM
Soooo....are there no negative comments for these lights....if so I can smell a new item being added to my christmas list :D

ctrlraven
11-28-2009, 02:08 PM
Soooo....are there no negative comments for these lights....if so I can smell a new item being added to my christmas list :D
Only negative thing I have is that the positive and negative for high/low beam are reversed with this kit but I figured that out and was simple to correct. Other than that no complaints from me about it.

offroadkarter
11-28-2009, 03:47 PM
Only negative thing I have is that the positive and negative for high/low beam are reversed with this kit but I figured that out and was simple to correct. Other than that no complaints from me about it.

Since i dont feel like reading 10 pages, has anyone else had this issue with reversed wires?


I'm probably going to be ordering this kit for the truck, if it breaks im blaming you :P

It sounds like they are better than the $60 HID kits my friend got for his crown vic off ebay, sometimes they wouldnt want to turn on lol

Makadamian
11-28-2009, 09:03 PM
Since i dont feel like reading 10 pages, has anyone else had this issue with reversed wires?


I'm probably going to be ordering this kit for the truck, if it breaks im blaming you :P

It sounds like they are better than the $60 HID kits my friend got for his crown vic off ebay, sometimes they wouldnt want to turn on lol

I had to changes the pins also on mine because thy were reversed but it's real easy and takes a couple minutes. Ctrlravens pics were very helpful.

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-29-2009, 12:34 AM
Mine was not reversed out of the box. Pluged it all up and everything was perfect.


Are you guys installing the bulbs with the white strip piece to the bottom?

Makadamian
11-29-2009, 08:54 AM
Mine was not reversed out of the box. Pluged it all up and everything was perfect.


Are you guys installing the bulbs with the white strip piece to the bottom?

I took mine off. I couldn't get the bulb in with it on.

kmastl
11-29-2009, 11:32 AM
I also had to reverse the pins for the dual beam lights. The only complaint that I have is that the high beams do not seem to point up at all. I have checked and the bulb goes toward the base of the light when activating the brights, but they don't seem to angle the light any higher.

ctrlraven
11-29-2009, 02:15 PM
Only need to change the pins if going with the high/low beam kit.

I've been trying to play with mine with switching some other wires around.

I'll post up some more stuff this week coming as I'll have time to tear everything apart and start from the beginning again to see where exactly the issue is and why we have to reverse the pins. I've been in contact with DDMtuning support and they are trying to correct the issue on their side but have to wait till they get a panther vehicle to test things on.

4play
11-29-2009, 05:57 PM
just buy a bizeon kit from retro solutions lifetime warrenty on everything and it's all plug and play, my kit works flawlessly. and no messing around with pins or re wireing anything.

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-29-2009, 06:09 PM
I took mine off. I couldn't get the bulb in with it on.

Not following you here, I'm talking about the white charger piece (under the actual glass bulb) that has a wire going to it from the end of it. You cannot remove it and expect the bulb to work.

In fact we cracked my buddies, and the bulb did not even flicker attempting to turn on, we had to order new bulb replacements because of it.

And ctrlraven, I have the bi kit, I plugged it all up and tested the high beam, and it worked correctly without changing any wires. On the Ninja I did have to reverse the polarity of the harness though.

These also give you lifetime warranties, unless you cheaped-out and bought the raptor kits with 1 yr warranty.

ctrlraven
11-30-2009, 06:34 AM
Not following you here, I'm talking about the white charger piece (under the actual glass bulb) that has a wire going to it from the end of it. You cannot remove it and expect the bulb to work.

In fact we cracked my buddies, and the bulb did not even flicker attempting to turn on, we had to order new bulb replacements because of it.

And ctrlraven, I have the bi kit, I plugged it all up and tested the high beam, and it worked correctly without changing any wires. On the Ninja I did have to reverse the polarity of the harness though.

These also give you lifetime warranties, unless you cheaped-out and bought the raptor kits with 1 yr warranty.

The only issue I have come up with not changing the pins was that if it's all left alone you still have the high beam / low beam switch but when you pull back on the switch it does not activate to do the quick flash. With reversing the pins this feature works. You can easily just push the switch forward and pull back to flash also.

If anyone wants to reverse their pins give it a try.

I think it has to do with connecting to only one side of the headlight harness, if I can get some time I will move the main connection to the driver's side and see what that does.

kmastl
11-30-2009, 02:31 PM
I had the same experience. Before I reversed the pins the light moved away from the base and would only change from lows to hi's when pushing the lever. Now it works when I pull it and push it forward. Also the light moves toward the base which I am told is the correct direction.

james1986fox
11-30-2009, 11:13 PM
Ok so I just installed hid fog lights and I continue to blow the 15 watt fuse for the fog lights. Should I put a higher ouput fuse in??? Everything was fine the first day I installed thm, i. Checked all the wires and everything looks fine. I just installed them 2 days ago. Bigger fuse is my only thought???

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-30-2009, 11:18 PM
How did you wire the fogs up?

Its my understanding if you ordered the h1 kit, that we have to splice into the stock wiring, not using the factory connector.

james1986fox
11-30-2009, 11:31 PM
How did you wire the fogs up?

Its my understanding if you ordered the h1 kit, that we have to splice into the stock wiring, not using the factory connector.

I did splice into the factory wiring. I cut off the factory connector and spliced the positive and negative factory wires and connected them to the pos and neg hid wires.

ctrlraven
12-01-2009, 07:51 AM
I did splice into the factory wiring. I cut off the factory connector and spliced the positive and negative factory wires and connected them to the pos and neg hid wires.
The system is not designed to run off factory wiring, only using it for signal remote power up/turn on. You need to connect the positive and negative to the battery same as you would with powering/grounding the HIDs for the headlights. The ballasts need that direct power to build up the charge to ignite the bulbs and to stay lit.

james1986fox
12-01-2009, 11:46 AM
The system is not designed to run off factory wiring, only using it for signal remote power up/turn on. You need to connect the positive and negative to the battery same as you would with powering/grounding the HIDs for the headlights. The ballasts need that direct power to build up the charge to ignite the bulbs and to stay lit.

My headlight HIDs aren't wired to the battery either they were straight plug and play to the factory harnesses.

As far as the fog lights I just spliced the power and ground coming from the ballast and spliced the power and ground from the factory fog light wiring and connected them. Should I connect another power and run it to the battery???

ctrlraven
12-01-2009, 11:55 AM
My headlight HIDs aren't wired to the battery either they were straight plug and play to the factory harnesses.

As far as the fog lights I just spliced the power and ground coming from the ballast and spliced the power and ground from the factory fog light wiring and connected them. Should I connect another power and run it to the battery???
If their not hooked to the battery I HIGHLY recommend doing the headlight relay mod or whatever it's called.

james1986fox
12-01-2009, 12:31 PM
As far as the fog light wiring goes should I run another power wire to the battery?? If I did that wouldn't the fog lights be getting constant power?

fastblackmerc
12-01-2009, 12:38 PM
As far as the fog light wiring goes should I run another power wire to the battery?? If I did that wouldn't the fog lights be getting constant power?

There should be a relay in the kit. You have constant power to the relay and only use the headlight/foglight switch to trigger the relay to send power the the ballast and then to the bulbs. That way all the power isn't going through the switch. And that is why the relay burns out in the stock LCM.

ctrlraven
12-01-2009, 12:48 PM
Saw this after posting ^^^ Agree


As far as the fog light wiring goes should I run another power wire to the battery?? If I did that wouldn't the fog lights be getting constant power?

http://ddmtuning.com/support/index.php?_m=downloads&_a=viewdownload&downloaditemid=8&nav=0,1

No it's fine the way you did it, don't know why a fuse is blowing though, that's not a good sign, I wonder how hot the factory wires are getting before the fuse blows. After how long of use does the fuse pop or is it as soon as you turn them on?

The way I have installed H1 HID fog light kits on other cars is used a relay and the factory wiring acts as a remote turn on, same principle as the headlights or a speaker amp. I don't trust the factory fog light wiring on the Marauder.

james1986fox
12-01-2009, 01:22 PM
Saw this after posting ^^^ Agree



http://ddmtuning.com/support/index.php?_m=downloads&_a=viewdownload&downloaditemid=8&nav=0,1

No it's fine the way you did it, don't know why a fuse is blowing though, that's not a good sign, I wonder how hot the factory wires are getting before the fuse blows. After how long of use does the fuse pop or is it as soon as you turn them on?

The way I have installed H1 HID fog light kits on other cars is used a relay and the factory wiring acts as a remote turn on, same principle as the headlights or a speaker amp. I don't trust the factory fog light wiring on the Marauder.

The fuse is now popping right when I turn the foglights on. Would it make a difference if I put a relay in the place of the fuse that keeps popping? Or can someone please explain how to wire a relay in with the fog light wiring.

james1986fox
12-02-2009, 01:48 PM
Ok so I upgraded the 15w fuse for the foglights to a 25x and it hasn't popped yet, but I still want to put another power wire to the battery.

ctrlraven
12-02-2009, 02:14 PM
Make sure you put an in-line fuse on the power wire and also add another ground wire, equal power in, equal power out.

ChiTownMaraud3r
12-08-2009, 04:26 PM
Anyone have experience doing the relay mod, and how involved it is?

I wouldn't want the LCM buring up a year or whatever down the road.

I still don't understand why any extra safety measures are necessary if the hids are actually lower wattage than any stock bulbs..

offroadkarter
12-08-2009, 06:14 PM
Thanks aton for the help today chris... Yes the wires were backwards (damn chryslers!), after i snipped the harness and flipped the plug around everything went in fine, the HID's look great!

Next up i get to install my own set on the truck...

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu115/04RauderDTR/05%20PT%20Cruiser/IMG_3035.jpg

ctrlraven
12-09-2009, 09:34 AM
Glad that's all it was, any other questions hit me up.

fastblackmerc
12-09-2009, 09:51 AM
Anyone have experience doing the relay mod, and how involved it is?

I wouldn't want the LCM buring up a year or whatever down the road.

I still don't understand why any extra safety measures are necessary if the hids are actually lower wattage than any stock bulbs..

PM sent...

N40GL
12-09-2009, 10:19 AM
Okay - I read the whole thread and it still isn't clear to me. I get the part about the hi/lo headlights.

What isn't clear is the foglight 'fit.' Am I correct that, if I buy the H1 kit, I have to modify the adapter (drill a 7/8" hole, etc. etc.), but if I buy the 9006 kit, all I have to do is saw off a tab?

And - has anyone done the 9006 kit (and sawn off the tab) and can post pictures?

ctrlraven
12-09-2009, 12:55 PM
I'm going to buy some cheap 9006 halogen bulbs and try it and report back.

imorb1994
12-09-2009, 01:03 PM
I'm going to buy some cheap 9006 halogen bulbs and try it and report back.
halogen bulbs do not fit

ctrlraven
12-09-2009, 01:21 PM
halogen bulbs do not fit
So it would have to be the thin neck HID bulb for it to work?

I'll have to take one of the housings off and make some measurements cause there might be another bulb that could work.

imorb1994
12-09-2009, 01:39 PM
So it would have to be the thin neck HID bulb for it to work?

I'll have to take one of the housings off and make some measurements cause there might be another bulb that could work.

Thats what I have been told. But i have personaly tried a regular bulb in the foglight and does not fit. I will try and find the picture again.

Glenn
12-09-2009, 01:40 PM
Got my HID 5000K hi/lo kit today. Very nice quality - great bargin. :beer: But, poor generic instructions printed on tiny sheets with small type. The connections in the drawings are generic and not accurate to the 9007. I am glad we have instructions and photos on this thread.

Question: How did anyone with the OEM hard plastic cap on the rear of the HL assembly handle the wires from the HID bulbs - drill a hole in the back of the cap?

Glenn :burnout:

fastblackmerc
12-09-2009, 01:46 PM
Got my HID 5000K hi/lo kit today. Very nice quality - great bargin. :beer: But, poor generic instructions printed on tiny sheets with small type. The connections in the drawings are generic and not accurate to the 9007. I am glad we have instructions and photos on this thread.

Question: How did anyone with the OEM hard plastic cap on the rear of the HL assembly handle the wires from the HID bulbs - drill a hole in the back of the cap?

Glenn :burnout:

I made a small hole, I think it was about the size of a quarter, in the rubber cap on mine and forced the grommet from the kit into it.

ctrlraven
12-09-2009, 01:46 PM
^^^^ At least that's how I would do it also.

imorb1994
12-09-2009, 01:47 PM
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/108_0635.JPG (javascript:;)

ctrlraven
12-09-2009, 01:58 PM
Looks like nothing a drimmel won't take care of lol.

imorb1994
12-09-2009, 02:36 PM
Looks like nothing a drimmel won't take care of lol.
I agree. Its kinda hard for me to cut/grind up $222 worth of foglight assemblies. I have 2 brand new foglights(old ones are severely sandblasted) and have been researching the best way put H.I.D lights in them.

ChiTownMaraud3r
12-09-2009, 02:51 PM
I just made a slice on the rubber piece from an outer edge inwards to run the cables through.

offroadking208
12-29-2009, 08:28 PM
question: anybody else that installed the 55w Hi/Low kit have your Hi-beam light in the cluster on all the time?

fastblackmerc
12-29-2009, 08:44 PM
I agree. Its kinda hard for me to cut/grind up $222 worth of foglight assemblies. I have 2 brand new foglights(old ones are severely sandblasted) and have been researching the best way put H.I.D lights in them.

Working on that also.

fastblackmerc
12-29-2009, 08:45 PM
question: anybody else that installed the 55w Hi/Low kit have your Hi-beam light in the cluster on all the time?

No, but I have a Marauder.

offroadking208
12-29-2009, 08:46 PM
No, but I have a Marauder.

well i dont know if that would matter seeing as the headlights electrical system should be the same... to my knowledge anyway. lol

ctrlraven
12-30-2009, 09:35 AM
I don't know anything about the 55w kit cause that's overkill for our halogen headlamp housing. I would contact the vendor about it.

Glenn
01-11-2010, 03:25 PM
CtrlRaven:

The clear plastic ring in the below picture is discarded - correct and not reused?

Glenn Ford

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF26061024x768.jpg

ctrlraven
01-11-2010, 03:31 PM
Discard, I did not use it nor found any use for it. I questioned about it also.

breeze
01-11-2010, 03:34 PM
why are the H1 hid bulbs diff (much skinnier) from the regular H1 bulbs chris?

ctrlraven
01-11-2010, 03:43 PM
HID bulbs are designed differently than halogen bulbs.

HID stands for High Intensity Discharge. It refers to lighting technology that relies on an electrical charge to ignite xenon gas contained in a sealed bulb. The technology of HID automotive lamps is similar to that of common vapor-filled street lamps. HID lighting doesn't have a filament but instead creates light by igniting an arc between two electrodes. HID lights get their name from the intense white light produced by the electrical discharge. HID lamps are also called xenon lamps, referring to a gas inside the lamps.

breeze
01-11-2010, 03:48 PM
nobody can say you dont know your S:censor:T..lol...i have 6000k (crystal clear white) tops and fogs but 1 fog light went bad. gota order a pair..got mine from hidny.com

ctrlraven
01-11-2010, 04:03 PM
You have HID foglights?

bawazir
01-11-2010, 05:17 PM
You have HID foglights?



I do :D :D :D :D

breeze
01-11-2010, 05:56 PM
yea. 1 only worked so they arent bein turned on. i ordered a new pair

4play
01-11-2010, 09:48 PM
you know if you check out retro solutions web site they sell stubby H1 HID bulbs that are the same size as your factory ones. the light ball inside the light also lines up better.

breeze
01-12-2010, 03:51 PM
you know if you check out retro solutions web site they sell stubby H1 HID bulbs that are the same size as your factory ones. the light ball inside the light also lines up better.

but will they be the same color!? mine are 6000k a chrystal clear white but that really should be a white w/ a tint of blue!

4play
01-12-2010, 06:15 PM
actually sorry the stubbies are H3's, they may make one but you would have to call todd and ask. http://www.retrosolutionsllc.com/servlet/the-35W-HID-Bulbs/Categories

ctrlraven
01-13-2010, 08:19 AM
If a bulb goes bad by the same one again or get a different kit altogether. For as much as a bulb is on some sites it would be cheaper to get a new ddmtuning.com kit lol.

visionmercury
01-13-2010, 11:34 AM
here i have them on my 87 grand marquis project
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/82/l_b5164cbd80a94ff79c1144ab0931 6c65.jpg
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/96/l_7517a70412544f629d842b383200 19a6.jpg

ctrlraven
01-13-2010, 01:33 PM
I bet that is a million times better than the old lights!! lol

breeze
01-13-2010, 01:39 PM
If a bulb goes bad by the same one again or get a different kit altogether. For as much as a bulb is on some sites it would be cheaper to get a new ddmtuning.com kit lol.

for a pair of H1 single beam its only 28$

breeze
01-15-2010, 07:04 PM
got both tops and fogs working.
bright az ****nit.lol
if i had a camera and knew how to post pics i would

bob6364
01-15-2010, 07:28 PM
Sooooo....does everyone still love love these...now that i fixed the LCM I would like to install HID's this kit is so inexpensive its kinda scary....

ctrlraven
01-15-2010, 09:29 PM
Mine still work, I'll be ordering a pair for my DD (05 Grand Prix) and for my g/f's 08 Honda Pilot which already has projectors but uses halogen bulbs.

ChiTownMaraud3r
01-15-2010, 10:06 PM
I love them. Plan on finishing the fogs soon too!

Paul
09-24-2010, 09:06 PM
Just ordered the 35W 9007 Hi/Lo kit in 5000K. :)

ctrlraven
09-25-2010, 10:48 AM
I have been thinking about switching to 5000K just to get some more light output. Post pics if you can after you install it.

boatmangc
10-03-2010, 10:23 AM
Going to pull the trigger on these, did you need the error code eliminator kit?

ctrlraven
10-03-2010, 10:27 AM
Going to pull the trigger on these, did you need the error code eliminator kit?
No that's for Porsche and BMW vehicles.

MMarauder03
10-03-2010, 11:38 AM
My set keeps blowing fuses under my dash so i put my oem bulbs back in.

LANDY
10-03-2010, 11:42 AM
My set keeps blowing fuses under my dash so i put my oem bulbs back in. when I installed mine I had to go to 10 amp higher on the fuses and it has been fine for 5 months.

boatmangc
10-03-2010, 12:28 PM
when I installed mine I had to go to 10 amp higher on the fuses and it has been fine for 5 months.
And you put the DDM kit in?

LANDY
10-03-2010, 12:33 PM
And you put the DDM kit in? no a friend of mine used to work for an audio place down south and he had cateye on his cv for over a year without any issues, so that's what I went with. I paid $130 for headlights and fogs which are the h1's.

boatmangc
10-03-2010, 02:19 PM
I have been thinking about switching to 5000K just to get some more light output. Post pics if you can after you install it.

Did you do this yet?
Are the 6000K so blue they look cheap?
Do you think the light with the 6000s is equal to or less than the MM OEMs?
I want them to look like OEMs. My Mark 8 had OEM HIDs and they had a light blue tint. Best headlights I have ever had.

LANDY
10-03-2010, 03:08 PM
I have 8k and its much better than oem. I only have low beams and its enough, even in this country roads around here.

fastblackmerc
10-03-2010, 03:09 PM
Did you do this yet?
Are the 6000K so blue they look cheap?
Do you think the light with the 6000s is equal to or less than the MM OEMs?
I want them to look like OEMs. My Mark 8 had OEM HIDs and they had a light blue tint. Best headlights I have ever had.

This is 6k HIDs in my Marauder. My Marauder is on the left. Marauder on the right has Silverstars:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/HIDs/DSCN0272.jpg

ctrlraven
10-03-2010, 06:46 PM
My set keeps blowing fuses under my dash so i put my oem bulbs back in.
Do you have a DDM kit?

A fuse or fuses? What exact fuses are being popped?

Paul
10-03-2010, 08:22 PM
I installed the DDM 9007 hi-lo kit in 5000k today.
Stock sylvania xtravision (not silverstar):

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/th_DSCN3922.jpg (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/DSCN3922.jpg)

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/th_DSCN3918.jpg (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/DSCN3918.jpg)

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/th_DSCN3924.jpg (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/DSCN3924.jpg)

DDM 5000k:

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/th_DSCN3945.jpg (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/DSCN3945.jpg)

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/th_DSCN3944.jpg (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/DSCN3944.jpg)

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/th_DSCN3955.jpg (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/DSCN3955.jpg)

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/th_DSCN3952.jpg (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/DSCN3952.jpg)

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/th_DSCN3948.jpg (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/pbrodersen/Headlights/DSCN3948.jpg)

MMarauder03
10-03-2010, 08:56 PM
Do you have a DDM kit?

A fuse or fuses? What exact fuses are being popped?

I have a ddm kit and I'll post up the fuses when I get a chance to look at it. Still workin... Sheeshhh

ctrlraven
10-03-2010, 09:49 PM
I installed the DDM 9007 hi-lo kit in 5000k today.

The 5000K looks good, I think I may switch to it. 6000K has always been middle of the road for color or light output.

boatmangc
10-04-2010, 02:49 PM
OK ordered them today, right after I ordered them I noticed I didn't select color for the H1s for the fog/driving lights so they defaulted at 3500k
So did anybody see Bawazir's?
Too bright?
I can change the order in about 15 minutes but I'm not sure I need to.

LANDY
10-04-2010, 05:58 PM
OK ordered them today, right after I ordered them I noticed I didn't select color for the H1s for the fog/driving lights so they defaulted at 3500k
So did anybody see Bawazir's?
Too bright?
I can change the order in about 15 minutes but I'm not sure I need to.
the 3500k will look really light yellow. see TBF sig picture. i think it looks ricey on our cars.

boatmangc
10-04-2010, 06:22 PM
Too late, they are going to be the 3500s
In reality they are supposed to be fog lights and fog lights are traditionally yellow

ctrlraven
10-04-2010, 08:54 PM
I had thought about doing the 3500K in the fogs mainly because it would really be good in bad weather especially fog.

boatmangc
10-05-2010, 03:03 AM
I had thought about doing the 3500K in the fogs mainly because it would really be good in bad weather especially fog.

My thoughts exactly, my MM seems to make it rain when I have a road trip. I drove it to Atlanta over the Labor day holiday. It rained 80% of the drive.

ctrlraven
10-05-2010, 05:43 AM
To me it is not really ricey. Lexus I believe was the first to do that kind of color combo.

boatmangc
10-23-2010, 06:07 PM
Did the install today, The 3500 kit didn't come with the relay harness so I couldn't do much with them. :mad: I didn't open the package from DDM when it came in 2 weeks ago. I guess I'll put em in after SSHS. I figured when I bought the kit it would be complete.
I did the headlights and found one of the HIDs has no high beam. Although after a test drive tonight the one that does work really doesn't appear to give any more depth on high just a wider pattern.
Now I have to figure out how to adjust the height. They came out crooked. I think I adjusted 1 but shining it on a wall didn't seem to make much difference while turning the adjuster. When I took it for a drive the right was much lower than the left....

ctrlraven
10-24-2010, 10:59 AM
Did the install today, The 3500 kit didn't come with the relay harness so I couldn't do much with them. :mad: I didn't open the package from DDM when it came in 2 weeks ago. I guess I'll put em in after SSHS. I figured when I bought the kit it would be complete.
I did the headlights and found one of the HIDs has no high beam. Although after a test drive tonight the one that does work really doesn't appear to give any more depth on high just a wider pattern.
Now I have to figure out how to adjust the height. They came out crooked. I think I adjusted 1 but shining it on a wall didn't seem to make much difference while turning the adjuster. When I took it for a drive the right was much lower than the left....
The 9007 Hi/Low kit comes with the control unit, ground and power wire. Everything you need to hook it up besides some more zip ties and tap if needed. Did you pick 3500K for you headlights?

boatmangc
10-24-2010, 12:56 PM
The 9007 Hi/Low kit comes with the control unit, ground and power wire. Everything you need to hook it up besides some more zip ties and tap if needed. Did you pick 3500K for you headlights?
I bought a second set of 3500K to shoehorn into the fogs, but it came without the control unit, power wire assy.
I just assumed when you bought a kit you got one.
I bought the 6000K for the highlights

ctrlraven
10-24-2010, 03:16 PM
The single beam kit you have to cut the factory harness plug and then tie in the new kit to it, unless you buy an HID accessory kit which is powered off battery/ground just as the headlights are.

boatmangc
10-24-2010, 04:03 PM
So you don't use the ballasts on the fogs?

ctrlraven
10-24-2010, 08:01 PM
No you do but they are powered off the factory H1 plug which you have to cut and connect power to power/ground to ground.

boatmangc
10-25-2010, 03:45 AM
Hmmm, my 2nd set of ballasts are identical to the 6000K ones. So I need to make a plug to put power to the ballasts?
I have not dropped the lights so I don't really know what's down there. Just trying to gather info before taking it apart.
I will probably call DDM today and have them overnight another harness. seems the easier thing to do, although it might be a little short.
BTW Ctlraven, thanks for your picture posts and answers, my kit came with no instructions. Your install pics were totally invaluable! :bows:
I saw in your pics the mounting collar was off of your new HID bulbs, mine would not come off so I forced the OEM mounting nut over the collar and was able to install them that way, I doubt I will be able to get them off without destroying one or the other though.

boatmangc
10-25-2010, 04:51 AM
Derrr.
I just looked at the H1s for the fogs, now I get it.
Now I'll just call DDM and get them to send me a new bulb for the one that doesn't have a high beam.

ctrlraven
10-25-2010, 07:50 AM
Hmmm, my 2nd set of ballasts are identical to the 6000K ones. So I need to make a plug to put power to the ballasts?
I have not dropped the lights so I don't really know what's down there. Just trying to gather info before taking it apart.
I will probably call DDM today and have them overnight another harness. seems the easier thing to do, although it might be a little short.
BTW Ctlraven, thanks for your picture posts and answers, my kit came with no instructions. Your install pics were totally invaluable! :bows:
I saw in your pics the mounting collar was off of your new HID bulbs, mine would not come off so I forced the OEM mounting nut over the collar and was able to install them that way, I doubt I will be able to get them off without destroying one or the other though.
When putting the collar on for the headlight bulbs you want to remove the clear plastic/rubber ring from the bulb. You shouldn't have to force them in them anymore than just your regular bulb.

I re-did "The Great"'s setup a few weeks ago and I should of taken more picture.

I will probably just order another complete kit for my headlights and do a step by step picture and install write-up for it.

Mark815
11-19-2010, 04:39 PM
The only issue I have come up with not changing the pins was that if it's all left alone you still have the high beam / low beam switch but when you pull back on the switch it does not activate to do the quick flash. With reversing the pins this feature works. You can easily just push the switch forward and pull back to flash also.

If anyone wants to reverse their pins give it a try.

I think it has to do with connecting to only one side of the headlight harness, if I can get some time I will move the main connection to the driver's side and see what that does.

From page 10

I just did this install on my Crown Vic. I don't have the flash to pass feature anymore, I talked to a tech guy at DDM and he said with some cars you will lose the pass to flash. Now according to my reading on here it seems you can reverse the pins to get this feature back. The only part I'm confused about though, is which pins\connector are we swapping? The one that came from DDM or the factory Ford\Mercury connector? The pics posted on here look like the ford wiring which is why I'm asking. The DDM kit I got today had the blue cap for the wiring separate from everything, so I wired it up myself. The lights work, pushing forward on the MFS gives me a 'high beam' but I wouldn't really call it that, it just scatters the light more, and again, no flash to pass. What did I do wrong, if anything?

ctrlraven
11-19-2010, 09:04 PM
On the DDM kit the blue plug the BLACK wire is ground and has to be in the center.

If you don't have flash pass function you need to swap the outside wires (White and Red) I think that might be the colors. If you could take a pic of your blue plug from the back side showing the color wires I could tell you. I had the same problem when I ordered my kit, it's just reverse polarity which is why they leave the pin connectors loose cause not all American cars that use 9007 have the same polarity setup in the plug.

I ordered another kit (5000K) for headlights and for foglights. I will do another complete write up/install for it with more pictures and instructions, including foglights. I should have my 2 new kits sometime next week or after Thanksgiving.

Mark815
11-20-2010, 09:30 AM
If you don't have flash pass function you need to swap the outside wires (White and Red) I think that might be the colors. If you could take a pic of your blue plug from the back side showing the color wires I could tell you. I had the same problem when I ordered my kit, it's just reverse polarity which is why they leave the pin connectors loose cause not all American cars that use 9007 have the same polarity setup in the plug

Here's what it looks like. So pretty much my red\white wires might be backwards? Thanks ahead of time for the help!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs996.snc4/76941_463648538990_647463990_5 346715_7430827_n.jpg

Mark815
11-20-2010, 02:34 PM
Ok think I have it figured out. White\Red was backwards like you stated ctrlraven. I wouldn't have even know that if it wasn't for the info you posted on pg 10, so thanks for the info you've had for this mod. I knew the tech guy was wrong when he said I'd lose the flash to pass.

ctrlraven
11-20-2010, 06:22 PM
Sorry I didn't respond earlier I was in DE having ImpalaSlayer install my underdrive pulleys and pull my intake manifold off so I could clean it.

Yeah I thought something was wrong also when I lost the flash to pass feature. I had contacted DDMtuning and the guy told me what to look for and try which I copied and pasted the email on one of the pages in this thread.

Glad you got it fixed!

Mark815
11-20-2010, 06:35 PM
Not a problem, I do have one other question though. After driving for the first time around tonight, I don't know what the deal is, but my hi's seem low and my lows seem hi. Here's a couple pics from a few min ago

This is the low beams, I have a couple concentrated areas of light, and the light in general is very scattered and annoying to look at while driving.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs964.snc4/75737_463875063990_647463990_5 349688_2629271_n.jpg

This is with the Hibeams selected, much more even light, and much more comfortable to drive with AND they're aimed a little lower than the low beams, which makes no sense. I don't get why it's like this though, and even after adjusting the headlights I'm scratching my head

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs984.snc4/75737_463875068990_647463990_5 349689_1663695_n.jpg

ctrlraven
11-20-2010, 07:10 PM
The scattered light pattern is typical to a halogen housing, only way to get rid of that is to buy a retrofitted hid projector headlight (which there are some out there for the CV) or do a DIY retrofit projector into the stock housing.

Use these steps to try to align your lights.
http://www.ehow.com/how_7362682_adjust-headlight-alignment.html

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-22-2010, 09:55 PM
The Marauder's, like the crown vic's light pattern is not smooth either, my buddy's 07 impala SS does not have projectors but seems to be much cleaner light scatter than our cars.

ctrlraven
11-23-2010, 06:14 AM
My 08 Taurus has a very square and sharp headlight reflector, much smoother light pattern but yet the foglights are projectors.... smh.

Mark815
11-23-2010, 06:16 AM
The Marauder's, like the crown vic's light pattern is not smooth either, my buddy's 07 impala SS does not have projectors but seems to be much cleaner light scatter than our cars.

The part I find interesting though, is that with my hi's on (as you can see in the pics above), the light is actually VERY clean and looks almost factory. If I could find a way to wire them in such a way that the hi's are lows and lows are hi, that way I don't have to drive around with the MFS set on hi all the time.

JBeezy
11-23-2010, 07:51 AM
subscribing

ChiTownMaraud3r
11-24-2010, 12:49 PM
There is a way you can do that, if you look back in this thread a while back..there was talk about the pins being inverted on some car's harnesses, and they would have to swap those two pins to correct the inversion when upgrading to the HID kit. If not the Hi beams were always on if I recall correctly.

I'm sure ctrlraven remembers and can explain it better.

ctrlraven
11-24-2010, 02:57 PM
I originally switched the Hi/Low pins on the factory headlight plug only because they were a lot easier to swap than the ones in the DDM blue plug. A few months ago I had some corrosion on the ground wire of the plug and something must of been tugging on it cause it was starting to come loose from the crimp. I just cut the whole thing off and wired up another plug from an old HID kit I had.

Since I installed my kit and talked to several people at DDM they decided it was best to leave the pins free so 9007 kit users could install the pins to be configured properly for their 9007 headlight system.

Paul
11-28-2010, 07:35 PM
Mine arrived with the pins free, as described above. I inserted them according to the instructions and what was posted in this thread. No problems.

ctrlraven
11-30-2010, 09:56 AM
I got my new 5000K hid headlight kit installed, def like the 5000K better than the 6000K!
I thought it would be a simple bulb swap but it wasn't cause they switched the wires so I had to install the new HID hi/low wiring harness along with the new bulbs.

Also when you put the locking ring back on the headlight (not the locking ring that keeps the bulb in the housing) you want to make sure the actuator metal arm that runs the length of the bulb is on the bottom when you place the bulb into the housing. If it isn't remove the bulb and undo the bulb locking ring and rotate it 180 degrees then put the bulb back in and check. This is to ensure when high beam is activated the bulb will move in the right angle/direction to shift the light beam up and outward as to simulate high beams.

Here is the correct color pin configuration you want to do when installing a kit.

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3588/1127101804.jpg

ctrlraven
11-30-2010, 10:13 AM
I couldn't do the fog light bulb install cause one of the bulb holders was half melted and burnt. Once I get a new one I'll do a separate thread for the hid fogs write-up.

SID210SA
12-01-2010, 01:01 PM
I cannot believe I just read through 17 pages and 246 posts!!!

I have a question or two....Is the foglamp conversion easy? (I have seen posts about cutting here and drilling there) I dont want to ruin my fogs and have to get another set....I hear they are pretty spensive!!

Second....When I went with SilverStars in the headlights and fogs, I removed the diffusers in the fogs for a brighter light down there....I no longer have the diffusers...do you need them with the HID install?

Thanks,

Mike

ChiTownMaraud3r
12-01-2010, 02:04 PM
Sid, the fogs can be a pain depending on how you go about doing it.. You have to take the stock ford connector for the fog lamps, and cut it halfway down so that you basically have a ring. Then you pull the metal connector peice out, and attempt to carefully drill the interior of the thing so that the HID wire and end connector slides in. I wish I had taken pics..

The HID bulb down there pretty much makes you take the diffuser out. In my opinion it would be better with the diffuser because it doesn't scatter the light, and you would actually be able to drive at night with only the fogs, but it looks like it's alot brighter from far away without the diffuser.

ctrlraven
12-01-2010, 02:54 PM
I took some pictures today of the fog light piece. Once I'm fully ready to do the fog lights I'll take pics and do a write-up.

I wonder if I can post a write-up in the reviews section for the headlights and fog lights.

SID210SA
12-02-2010, 06:39 AM
Sid, the fogs can be a pain depending on how you go about doing it.. You have to take the stock ford connector for the fog lamps, and cut it halfway down so that you basically have a ring. Then you pull the metal connector peice out, and attempt to carefully drill the interior of the thing so that the HID wire and end connector slides in. I wish I had taken pics..

The HID bulb down there pretty much makes you take the diffuser out. In my opinion it would be better with the diffuser because it doesn't scatter the light, and you would actually be able to drive at night with only the fogs, but it looks like it's alot brighter from far away without the diffuser.

Thank you sir


I took some pictures today of the fog light piece. Once I'm fully ready to do the fog lights I'll take pics and do a write-up.

I wonder if I can post a write-up in the reviews section for the headlights and fog lights.

And thank you sir.....I would really appreaciate the datail on doing the fogs. I really dont want to do just the headlights and not the fogs. I know you have already done so much in this thread!!