Oil in cylinder 1 Pleaaasseee help

[james1986fox]

When I had my spark plugs changed they all looked good besides cylinder 1 which was oily and when I shined a light down the hole I could see the oil build up in the head. Is this hurting my performance in any way. I do have a system too lean bank 1 check engine code, could this be related??? What to doo??? I just want my car to perform the way it did when I got it :(

[james1986fox]

anyone please

[merc]

What's the exact engine code James? Oil may be dripping from the valve cover to the spark plug wire. You might need to replaced one of these parts. Take a look a the wires going to the plug to see if it contains old.

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I am looking for a P0171 or a P0174 code.

The bad news: Perform a leak down test on that and a few other cylinders and see how much is leaking by the rings or valves. You can have good compression and still leak past the rings. Does it smoke at all? Just on start up after sitting cold? You could have bad valve guides.

Could you post a picture of the effected plug.

[justbob]

Not firing????????

[james1986fox]

What's the exact engine code James? Oil may be dripping from the valve cover to the spark plug wire. You might need to replaced one of these parts. Take a look a the wires going to the plug to see if it contains old.

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I am looking for a P0171 or a P0174 code.

The bad news: Perform a leak down test on that and a few other cylinders and see how much is leaking by the rings or valves. You can have good compression and still leak past the rings. Does it smoke at all? Just on start up after sitting cold? You could have bad valve guides.

Could you post a picture of the effected plug.
I am only getting a p0171

[james1986fox]

It never noticed it smoking at start up ill have to pay close attention, and I already tossed that plug and put a new one in its getting brown pretty quick compared to all the other spark plugs which are still really white and theyve been in their a few months

[merc]

A P0171 lean code for bank 1 is the cylinder bank on the RIGHT (passenger) side of the engine on Ford vehicles with a V6 or V8 engine and rear-wheel drive. Is that the side the fowled plug is located.

[james1986fox]

A P0171 lean code for bank 1 is the cylinder bank on the RIGHT (passenger) side of the engine on Ford vehicles with a V6 or V8 engine and rear-wheel drive. Is that the side the fowled plug is located.
Yes the fouled plug is on bank 1 cylinder 1

[fastblackmerc]

If your running lean the plug shouldn't be black

http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/pages/technical/diagnosis.htm.

[O3 pharoh]

I also had some oil in my number one spark plug when i changed them out. But the more i look, i think it comes from above the plate covering the plug wires. There is a breather i think coming from the intake to the top of the valve cover, that seems to be leaking and getting in from above the spark plug. All the anti-sieze was nice and brown. Don't know if that is similiar problem or not. When i talked to ford they said to change the seals for the spark plug channel. Don't know if it is the same or helps at all. Hopefully we both find a solution to it. good luck

[GetMeMyStogie]

Perhaps the fuel injector is clogged or failed, though I guess that'd feel like a misfire. It'd be a zero-dollar (free) experiment to move the injector to a different cylinder - maybe to a different bank to see if a different code is thrown.

[CBT]

Perhaps the fuel injector is clogged or failed, though I guess that'd feel like a misfire. It'd be a zero-dollar (free) experiment to move the injector to a different cylinder - maybe to a different bank to see if a different code is thrown.

That is an awesome idea, have to remember that one.

[james1986fox]

Perhaps the fuel injector is clogged or failed, though I guess that'd feel like a misfire. It'd be a zero-dollar (free) experiment to move the injector to a different cylinder - maybe to a different bank to see if a different code is thrown.
Ok so I just unpluged cylinder 1 fuel injector and took it for a spin with it unpluged and the car ran no differently is this telling me that my problem definitely has to do with my cylinder 1 fuel injector

[offroadkarter]

Ok so I just unpluged cylinder 1 fuel injector and took it for a spin with it unpluged and the car ran no differently is this telling me that my problem definitely has to do with my cylinder 1 fuel injector


Perhaps the fuel injector is clogged or failed, though I guess that'd feel like a misfire. It'd be a zero-dollar (free) experiment to move the injector to a different cylinder - maybe to a different bank to see if a different code is thrown.


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[justbob]

Not firing????????
With the plug being wet, i would lean toward a faulty cop.

[james1986fox]

With the plug being wet, i would lean toward a faulty cop.
Put a new one in their no change, the car should definitely run rougher with that fuel injector unplugged if it was working perfectly right??

[justbob]

Normally yes, but i've seen two brand new ford cops be bad out of the package. This theory doesn't pan out though for the lean condition thats showing up.

Have you checked the OHM's on the injector and compared to the rest, or at least listened to it through a stethoscope or long screw driver (handle in ear, not the business end).

[james1986fox]

Normally yes, but i've seen two brand new ford cops be bad out of the package. This theory doesn't pan out though for the lean condition thats showing up.

Have you checked the OHM's on the injector and compared to the rest, or at least listened to it through a stethoscope or long screw driver (handle in ear, not the business end).
I haven't checked the OHM'S on the injectors, what should I listen for if I put a long screw driver up against it, a certain click or pattern?

[justbob]

Yes, you will here it clicking. Checking the ohm's is quite easy if you have an ohm's meter. These are simple steps i'd take before spending money and guessing.

[justbob]

Here you go, found this, hope it helps.
http://www.ehow.com/how_2387429_test-fuel-injectors.html

[james1986fox]

Here you go, found this, hope it helps.
http://www.ehow.com/how_2387429_test-fuel-injectors.html
Thanks for the help, I will try this tomorrow

[justbob]

I'll be right here.:D

[GetMeMyStogie]

A non-firing injector could also be caused by a bad connection from the ECU. If the injector resistance is good (not shorted nor open), it could still be a bad connection, a broken wire, or a shorted wire, even if it is unlikely.

Wouldn't the OBD throw a specific code for a shorted/open injector?

[offroadkarter]

Normally yes, but i've seen two brand new ford cops be bad out of the package. This theory doesn't pan out though for the lean condition thats showing up.

Have you checked the OHM's on the injector and compared to the rest, or at least listened to it through a stethoscope or long screw driver (handle in ear, not the business end).


A bad injector would also throw a lean code... Think about it, no fuel... lean...



Awaiting the verdict...

[justbob]

Yeah, I meant no spark. Late night.

[james1986fox]

I did put the long screwdriver up against the injector and I hear it clicking but its just weird that when I pull any plug when the car is idling it boggs down and idles rougher when I unplug the cylinder 1 fuel injector it does nothing different

[james1986fox]

Ok so I changed the 1st and 2nd injectors and that was definitely the ongoing problem because man did the car get a lot faster and my rough idle went away and the throttle is much more responsive, so I'm now going to change the 1st cylinder plug and see if it continues to get fouled and wet.