View Full Version : 2004 Police Interceptor airbox vs 2003 Rauder airbox
metroplex
10-11-2003, 06:33 PM
How different are they?
Is one less performance oriented than the other?
The MAF's are apparently the same.
FYI 2004 CVPIs are rated at 250 hp vs the 239 hp 2004 LX Sport.
RCSignals
10-11-2003, 09:46 PM
The 2004 CVPI uses the Marauder airbox.
metroplex
10-12-2003, 05:36 AM
Not quite.
The airlid and MAF are 1 piece, but it uses the Marauder MAF according to the parts catalog.
However, sources say the harness looks totally different from the 98-03 harness/Marauder harness.
RCSignals
10-12-2003, 09:33 PM
Other sources have said it is the Marauder airbox. If the airlid and MAF are in fact one piece, that will be the only difference.
Odd they would even do that, unless it's just cheaper to manufacure that way. If it is I wonder if the 2004 MM uses the same one piece?
joflewbyu2
10-13-2003, 05:51 AM
2004 MM has the same as the 03 MM. seen 2 04s and they are the same.
RCSignals
10-13-2003, 09:00 PM
Joe that makes sense. what doesn't make much sense is that they design a separate one for '04 CVPIs.
metroplex
10-14-2003, 03:31 AM
Here's my take on the situation:
The Marauder is a performance sedan but the customers who buy it don't care for air intake noise.
Cops OTOH could care less about a little extra air intake noise so they cheap out on the build process.
RCSignals
10-14-2003, 09:51 AM
That could be part of it. Of course Marauder owners don't really care about a little noise either :)
Dennis Reinhart
10-14-2003, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by RCSignals
The 2004 CVPI uses the Marauder airbox.
Not as far as know, the CV has a smaller Maf and if you install the MAB the EEC has to be adjusted for this I sell this package to many CV owners
metroplex
10-14-2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Dennis Reinhart
Not as far as know, the CV has a smaller Maf and if you install the MAB the EEC has to be adjusted for this I sell this package to many CV owners
Apparently you've never seen the 2004 CVPI airbox?
It's a special "air induction kit" found only on the 2004 CVPI and NOT the 2004 CV.
The MAF for the 2004 CVPI has the same part # as the 2003 Marauder MAF, however the airlid and MAF housing are integrated. You can remove the sensor element though. There's no way you can "install the 2004 CVPI MAF" on a pre-04 CV w/o adapting the airlid to the airbox since it's a 1 piece design!
The 2004 CVPI airbox is supposed to be based on the Marauder airbox without the ridges.
Dennis Reinhart
10-14-2003, 05:23 PM
Your right I have not seen a 2004 PI CV so again I stated that as far as I know, so thanks for the info, I stand corrected, as far as doing the swap on a non PI CV you would still have to adjust the air meter transfer function in the EEC, with either air box if the Maff is a Marauder, which means a chip or a flash again I have been selling this setup for over a year, I just sell the complete Marauder air box and plugs chip and stat for the CV and I also have shorties and high flow cats as well as a Vortech blower for the SOHC CV and this mod was posted on the CV.Net site and http://www.crownvicmuscle.com/
metroplex
10-14-2003, 07:21 PM
Dennis: ok I just wanted to know - there's not much info on the 2004 CVPI airbox - I briefly did research on this and I posted what I knew and gathered from what others stated.
If you want the 2004 PI airbox on a pre-04 CV then you will need the MAF harness from a 04 PI becuase the pre-04 CV/PI harnesses WILL NOT work with the 04 PI MAF harness...
Overalll I think the MM airbox is a better idea because it works and it easily bolts onto any 98-03 panther.
Dennis Reinhart
10-14-2003, 07:37 PM
again with out seeing the car I am not sure but the harness may not be needed the Marauder Maff is a six pin because the air charge sensor is built in to the Maf, I believe the 03 CV is 4 pin with a seperat IAT so the Marauder Maf will plug into a 4 pin conector. The 02 GT has the same set up, but when I do a SC install I use a 90 MM Lighting Maf which is a 4 pin and I run a seperate IAT to the discharge of the SC
metroplex
10-14-2003, 07:40 PM
Dennis, that wasn't what I meant.
I understand the MM MAF has 6 pins for the IAT but from what I gathered about the 04 CVPI MAF, it is flatter and completely different from the traditional MAF harness you and I are used to seeing. Meaning you can't even clip a pre-04 harness onto this thing... at least that's what I heard!
Dennis Reinhart
10-14-2003, 07:45 PM
Yes but I thought this was about putting the Marauder Maff or air box on a earlier model CV I do this all the time, and its plug and play after the chip.
Dennis Reinhart
10-14-2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by metroplex
Dennis, that wasn't what I meant.
I understand the MM MAF has 6 pins for the IAT but from what I gathered about the 04 CVPI MAF, it is flatter and completely different from the traditional MAF harness you and I are used to seeing. Meaning you can't even clip a pre-04 harness onto this thing... at least that's what I heard!
I am now confused are we talking about the Maf or the Maf harness , if the Maf is of a diferent size it cant be the same part number as the Marauder Maff
metroplex
10-14-2003, 08:02 PM
Dennis: oh ok. Nah it wasn't about the MM airbox or MAF. That's fairly simple to do.
LincMercLover
10-14-2003, 08:31 PM
Damn my eyes are tired!
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