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Coupe
06-28-2009, 05:39 AM
If i start my engine, it needs a little time to start up. and if the engine is cold, only then, the engine is cog a little, it feels as itīs running with only 5 cylinders!
what can it be?
FordNut
06-28-2009, 06:19 AM
Possibly spark plugs or coils.
SC Cheesehead
06-28-2009, 06:22 AM
I agree with FordNut, how many miles on the car? Also, have you recently cleaned the engine, got it wet under the hood?
Coupe
06-28-2009, 06:44 AM
no, no wet! 120000km an new sparks
UncleLar
06-28-2009, 06:52 AM
Double check you installed the COPs correctly.
SC Cheesehead
06-28-2009, 07:08 AM
Double check you installed the COPs correctly.
+1, sounds like that may be your problem.
Coupe
06-28-2009, 08:02 AM
what means cop?
FordNut
06-28-2009, 08:08 AM
Coil On Plug.
I wonder if there is some fuel issue with your LPG conversion? If you can override the switchover and run it on gasoline only, then see if the missing occurs the next time you have a cold start that could be helpful data for troubleshooting.
Coupe
06-28-2009, 09:06 AM
not good for the valves to start the engine with lpg! the COPīs are fits correctly!
FordNut
06-28-2009, 10:39 AM
not good for the valves to start the engine with lpg!
That's not what I suggested. I said turn off the LPG altogether. Drive the car awhile on gas. Let it cool down or park it overnight, whenever the problem is noticeable. Start the car and see if it runs correctly or not.
Coupe
06-28-2009, 10:45 AM
ah, kow now. what you mean! but pity, itīs the same!!!
FordNut
06-28-2009, 10:54 AM
Maybe it has a bad coil (COP), not a bad connection?
sd8683
06-28-2009, 10:59 AM
Try cleaning your MAF, its worth a shot, maybe a vacuum leak?
FordNut
06-28-2009, 11:01 AM
Maybe, just maybe, it could be the valve seats. I'd go for the easy stuff first.
Coupe
06-28-2009, 11:03 AM
Maybe it has a bad coil (COP), not a bad connection?
itīs, what i think! how can i find it out?
@sd8683: how ca i fid the MAF? a vacuum leak? where?
252life
06-29-2009, 03:47 PM
itīs, what i think! how can i find it out?
To test the COP's, the easiest way is to measure the resistance (Ohm) , they should all have similar resistance.
And also if you want to clean the MAF (mass air flow sensor) just remove it from the air filter box / intake tube and spray on "electronic cleaner" be careful not to touch the sensor.
And you can check for vacuum leaks with the engine idling, spray on brake-cleaner or carburetor-cleaner on the place you think there might be a vacuum leak and if it is a leak the engine rpm's will increace.
Hope you find the problem, good luck!
justbob
06-29-2009, 04:57 PM
Sounds like the IAC, pull it off and clean it. This was exactly what mine was doing over the winter.
Coupe
07-03-2009, 07:09 AM
thank you, for the tips!
What means IAC? intake air ???
252life
07-03-2009, 10:33 AM
thank you, for the tips!
What means IAC? intake air ???
Idle Air Control Valve
frdwrnch
07-03-2009, 10:45 AM
There could be many root causes for this symptom. I agree with all of the previously mentioned items and I'll add one. If you have a fuel injector that is stuck open even partially, it will cause a long crank and it will run rough when it does fire because it has flooded one cylinder. Ck fuel pressure with a guage to see if it bleeds off rapidly when turning the car off. This may indicate an injector problem.
Coupe
07-05-2009, 03:01 AM
Ck fuel pressure with a guage to see if it bleeds off rapidly when turning the car off.
What did you mean with that statement?
how can i check the valves?
FordNut
07-05-2009, 06:10 AM
Check valves with a compression test and a leakdown test.
Actually the idea of a fuel injector makes sense too. When the car is turned off the fuel system should hold pressure due to the check valve in the tank. If an injector is leaking it would not hold pressure. I imagine the injectors would get at least some lubrication from gasoline which may not be present with LPG, so it could possibly increase wear.
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