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NOMARQUIS
08-14-2009, 07:24 PM
After being persistant for nearly 3 months, I finally got Ford ESP to replace my driver's side head under warranty. I have to give props to my dealership, as well as other members around here who helped me along the way.

This all started when I had my car up for sale. I was open with all who were interested that it had smoke on startup from the left side exhaust. So, needless to say, I had one fellow that was really interested in my car, but he would only buy it if I had the smoke problem fixed. I had told my dealer about the problem before, and after 3 weeks of confinement, I got my car back, was charged 100 dollars and was told the smoke issue was normal and they couldn't fix it. Armed with some info from here, some contact numbers and a slew of controlled frustration, I went to my selling dealer (who sold and serviced my car since new w/ the first owner). I spoke to the dealership owner, and showed him what my car did. He agreed to dig into the problem.

First, they took video of start up. I met with the technician who agreed that he wouldn't want to drive a car that did this. For God's sake, my car only has 20k on it and had smoked once in a while since I got it with 13k. They emailed the video to the Ford Tech Hotline and then Ford stepped up.

Ford instructed the service manager and tech to do some tests. After these tests, the dealship dismanteled my left side of the motor. Once the driver's head was removed, they found that the valve guides were mis-machined on cylenders #6, 7, and 8. A Ford service engineer came out and confirmed the problem. My dealership then ordered the new head. After about 10 days, my car was retuned to me. The car was obviously well kept while at the dealership. I got it back free of any new scratches and all workmanship was done correctly. All the wiring was placed in the proper looms and everything underhood was clean and posisitioned properly. I took some time to thank the tech, who looked to be a little older and was knowledgeable.

During the service visit, the guy who wanted my car backed out. I'm glad he did. The SB 'rauder sold, and now, I don't mind my car as much. After 300 miles, I've not seen any smoke, and the oil level is still full.

I'm a fussy SOB and it was an embarassment to start my car at shows, games or where ever and have a big smoke cloud behind it. It didn't do this alot, but when it did, it really was a joke.

I'd like to thank everyone at my dealership, FMC, and everyone on this board who helped me out. You all know who you are. Now I can finally enjoy the Marauder experience like I did back in late 2003 when I bought my first one!

Thanks for reading.

BTW, My ESP saved me nearly 2600 dollars. I guess I'll gladly pay my 100 dollar deductable. I say my old head. It really looked bad. 3 cylenders had blacked valves and there was oil deposits every where.

I was wondering, now since I have a new head, I have different size spark plugs on the left bank... Whay is that? There is one of those white "Ford correction" sticker under my hood with another plug number on it.

lastdaze04
08-14-2009, 07:35 PM
I understand the embaressmant of having a hot car and then gong to start it up and it shoots the blue like it would have 200,000 miles on it. My dealer refused to do what yours did, so I bit the bullet and had DR just replace the whole motor. He did Good Job I might add. NO MORE BLUE SMOKE!!!!! Congrats. Its like having a new car again..
Rick

NOMARQUIS
08-14-2009, 07:45 PM
My selling dealer is about a 120 mile ride from where I live. Every dealer in my local area told me "that's normal" and blew me off. It sure was frustrating. I wish I could have shot some photos of my bad head and stuffed them in there faces. Unfortunatly I didn't have my camera. like my selling dealer told me..... They didn't mind doing the job. FMC will pay the bill. The other guys lost a good paying repair job. I thought about paying for the repairs myself, but.. One I can't afford to do that, and second... didn't I buy a warranty for defects like that one?

Stranger in the Black Sedan
08-14-2009, 08:42 PM
Yeah I have the occasional blue smoke, although no oil consumption over 6k mile change intervals. I am going to take the head off myself at some point and have a machine shop put guides in it (will be a tiny fraction of what your new head cost). It is a non issue but it bothers me too, I don't like a car w/ this kind of mileage, smoking for any reason unless its the tires.

Marauderjack
08-15-2009, 02:50 AM
I understand the embaressmant of having a hot car and then gong to start it up and it shoots the blue like it would have 200,000 miles on it. My dealer refused to do what yours did, so I bit the bullet and had DR just replace the whole motor. He did Good Job I might add. NO MORE BLUE SMOKE!!!!! Congrats. Its like having a new car again..
Rick


I HAVE 200K+ miles and mine does it every now and then....NOT always!!:beer:

I had a 1967 HEMI Charger that did it ALL THE TIME!!:eek:

Chalk it up to FORD High Performance "Special Oiling"......them stinkin' Chebby's don't have it!!:shake: :D

GreekGod
08-15-2009, 02:53 PM
...I have had occasional smoking, too. Mine does use some oil between 3K mile changes (1 qt.?). I wish I had it fixed under warranty.

I should have checked my axle shafts for bearing wear while it was under extended warranty. I just got done installing 31 spline axles, and it wasn't fun. Sure wish someone made a bolt-in 9"!

Vortech347
08-16-2009, 10:49 PM
The head you have is the latest revision of the 03/04 heads. It has more spark plug threads. Its also revised to flow coolant better to help avoid cooking valve seals and guides. Which most likely could of been your problem to begin with.