Marauder going in this weekend!

[dohc324ci]

Hey all,

I am towing the Marauder to the speed-shop this weekend to get the motor pulled and heads and intake sent off to MMR and Nazty Performance:banana: The only thing is I am going to have to wait 3-4 weeks to get it back. It takes 2 weeks for the heads (P&P) to be installed on the short block (MMR will assembly short block into long block) and 3 weeks for the PSRI:mad2:

Oh well.

[FordNut]

Good luck on the 3-4 weeks. Most performance machine shops take at least double the time they tell you in the estimate/quote.

[dohc324ci]

Yeah.....my problem is not going to be the speed shop; its going to b MMR with the Ported heads/long block assembly then shipping and Nazty Performance well he says 3 weeks min. So mentally yeah I know.

[Blackened300a]

Hey all,

I am towing the Marauder to the speed-shop this weekend to get the motor pulled and heads and intake sent off to MMR and Nazty Performance:banana: The only thing is I am going to have to wait 3-4 weeks to get it back. It takes 2 weeks for the heads (P&P) to be installed on the short block (MMR will assembly short block into long block) and 3 weeks for the PSRI:mad2:

Oh well.

I dont want to break your spirit but I waited 3 months for my Naz intake. Good luck sir.

[dohc324ci]

I did see that thread....so I will have to get some assurances from Carlos. I don't think the speed shop will appreciate that too much. Thanks for the heads up Blackened.

[ginson3]

good luck guy, i got my fingers crossed i should get mine back on the road thursday.

[dohc324ci]

Thanks Gin let me know how BB/Stroker turns out.

[dohc324ci]

Good luck on the 3-4 weeks. Most performance machine shops take at least double the time they tell you in the estimate/quote.


FordNut, please stop being a KILLJOY:lol: Let me be in my utopian state of mind;) Its been toooooo long since the Marauders been runnin............

[DOOM]

Git er done.

[dohc324ci]

Hey DOOM,

LOL, your avitar reminds me of when I first joined I started this thread:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40186

This forum just adds to my sickness.....I need to get therapy to curtail these urges.

[dohc324ci]

On the phone with the speed shop and where estimating end of October or first week of November.....before I get her back.

[juno]

If the intake gets delayed, you could just put in a stock one and drive the car to get some miles on her so she can be dynoed.

Good luck!!!

[ludwigvan968]

good luck with the build. I hope for a speedy recovery. I am 4 months into a 2 week turbo install and while the last month made me have to up my blood pressure meds, the ride has been worth it or at the very least an experience.

[stryker]

:confused: What means MMR ??

[dohc324ci]

Some pics/vid of the trip over to the speed shop. Seen three Cobras (one getting a turbo) , a S197 GT getting a glass roof (nice) and a 2004 Corvette Lemans edition with translucent roof. There was Saleen there as well with a SC/Shaker Hood setup (NICE). Funny thing was when Saleen installed the shaker hood HE LOST 20RWHP! So hes there to get it dialed in with a custom tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuyphgKYMMQ

[dohc324ci]

:confused: What means MMR ??

Modular Mustang Racing (MMR) modularmustangracing.com

[dohc324ci]

good luck with the build. I hope for a speedy recovery. I am 4 months into a 2 week turbo install and while the last month made me have to up my blood pressure meds, the ride has been worth it or at the very least an experience.


Yikes....funny you should mention this I was speaking to the guys at the shop and they have a turbo Cobra that is having mechanical problems (installed somewhere else) long story short its going to be a while.

[babbage]

Time sucks, but good things come to those who wait. Especailly with what you've got orderd. Should be night and day when you get her back! Congrats on doing it.

[dohc324ci]

Thanks Babs....November cant come fast enough - will have to leave another few days after the initial break in period suks but worth it....i think.

[dohc324ci]

Good luck on the 3-4 weeks. Most performance machine shops take at least double the time they tell you in the estimate/quote.

OK. Motor shipped from MMR (SoCal) today and should be at the shop (NorCal) by Friday. Hopefully get it back by next Saturday:banana: That would put me at 8 LONG WEEKS w/o the Marauder:bigcry: BTW, Brian I hate you.....lol

[babbage]

OK. Motor shipped from MMR (SoCal) today and should be at the shop (NorCal) by Friday. Hopefully get it back by next Saturday:banana: That would put me at 8 LONG WEEKS w/o the Marauder:bigcry: BTW, Brian I hate you.....lol


Sweet, post some pics of this sexy beast when the crate arrives!

[dohc324ci]

You Betcha! I am going to update the album soon....

[dohc324ci]

Some Pics taken at TPSmotorsports.com:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=563


http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=562

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=561

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=560

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=559

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=557

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=556

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=554

[dohc324ci]

Update:

Monday:
I get a call from Elliott and the PRW SFI 8 Bolt Flex Plate that MMR said will fit didnt fit flush.....so I had Elliott pull it and send it back to MMR...I had to source a FRPP 8 Bolt Flex Plate (FRPP M-6375-H46) that's used to do Cobra AOD conversions. Problem was only found 2 suppliers in the country the rest were on back order (discontinued). Luckily Blue Oval Chips had 2 in stock (one he's keeping for his conversion) so I had Lonnie next day air it. We chatted about an 800rwhp+ Marauder (Vortech JT Trim) thats eating belts (6-rib) that he has in his shop. Earlier in the day was reading a thread on MM.net about this very same project! LOL.

Tuesday:
Get the UPS Tracking number check shipping status and was received at 9:52A! Email Elliott his response "Worked like a charm... PERFECT!!!". Needless to say I cant wait to get the beast back!

Hope you guys liked the play by play....lol

So its in bolted up and ready to get the base tune.....stay tuned.

Cheers!

[FordNut]

There is another source for 8-bolt flexplates. I got mine from Competition Products and it's SFI approved.

[ImpalaSlayer]

There is another source for 8-bolt flexplates. I got mine from Competition Products and it's SFI approved.


GOOD INFO!! thank you SIR!

the new motor looks good!

[ImpalaSlayer]

i searched there web site and only found one for a 4.6 but its for a sohc 6bolt.

do you have a part number?

[FordNut]

Sorry, it's been a long time. Maybe it's discontinued? They were the only place I could find an 8-bolt SFI approved flexplate. Several other places had 8-bolt flexplates but they didn't have the SFI sticker.

[ImpalaSlayer]

hmmm i need one of these :cry:

[babbage]

Some Pics taken at TPSmotorsports.com:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=563


http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=562

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=561

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=560

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=559

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=557

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=556

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=78&pictureid=554



Help! No workie! I see nothing.

[ImpalaSlayer]

i thought maybe you had a mach1 upper intake or i was seeing things but, the intake in pic #3 is on backwards lol (upper and lower)

[dohc324ci]

i thought maybe you had a mach1 upper intake or i was seeing things but, the intake in pic #3 is on backwards lol (upper and lower)


Yeah I noticed that too...lol thats what happens when shops never have worked on Marauders before. I searched long and far NONE in my area have done a buildup like this with this motor on this platform.

[dohc324ci]

babbage (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/member.php?u=10219)

Check my album:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/album.php?albumid=78

[dohc324ci]

i searched there web site and only found one for a 4.6 but its for a sohc 6bolt.

do you have a part number?

Give them a call. MMR uses them for there Cobra to AOD conversions. I didnt have patients to fiddle faddle with the %^ thing so I had them ship it back. But according to Lonnie (Blue Oval Chips) aftermarket is your best bet.
http://www.performanceracingwarehouse .com/sfi-flexplates.html

[babbage]

babbage (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/member.php?u=10219)

Check my album:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/album.php?albumid=78

Says I can't access it!

[dohc324ci]

Marauder is DONE! I am picking her up tomorrow. I had traded the short block for a SCT BA 3000 and a full detail wax & seal; so should be purdy when I pickup.

9 LONG WEEKS!

[gdsqdcr]

Congrats on getting it back!

[dohc324ci]

Done!

http://www.ca-mustangs.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=104&pictureid=787

[ImpalaSlayer]

well did you drive it yet?

[babbage]

Updates? Pictures? Come on! how is it? I really want to see the pictures of the MMR engine BEFORE it was installed!!

[RR|Suki]

Updates? Pictures? Come on! how is it? I really want to see the pictures of the MMR engine BEFORE it was installed!!

Built engines look just like stock engines on the outside unless you do something special paint wise ;)

[dohc324ci]

Updates? Pictures? Come on! how is it? I really want to see the pictures of the MMR engine BEFORE it was installed!!


Here babs:

http://www.norcalsvtoa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5312

[RR|Suki]

how do you like it?

[dohc324ci]

Dont know...still at TPS. Try and shoot for this Wednesday (I am off). Its killing me.....

[babbage]

Here babs:

http://www.norcalsvtoa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5312

Cool. No front cover or cam covers eh? Did mmr port match the stock logs? Windage tray is sweet too! Good for 15hp they say.

For shame you/they didn't paint the front cover! You also seem to need a JLT oil seperator - those are cheap. How did mmr tell you to seat the rings?

Btw I'm jealous!

[RR|Suki]

how is a windage tray going to give 15hp... our cranks don't dip down below the block and into the oil pan :confused:

[dohc324ci]

how is a windage tray going to give 15hp... our cranks don't dip down below the block and into the oil pan :confused:

You got me i dunno.

[babbage]

Keeps oil from sloshing up on the crank. This robs power..

[RR|Suki]

sloshing up from what? and from where? with 6 quarts in the pan the oil is waaaaay down there... anyone remember the pics of the oil pan where 6qts was like nothing in our pans? And our crank is tucked up in the block, it's not like a small block chevy or whatever else where the crank hangs into the pan... further we have massive heads which hold a good bit of oil while running...
Windage tray keeping the oil in the proper place and keeping it from getting frothy... ok. But a 15hp gain...

[ImpalaSlayer]

this was the link but the pics are gone
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=38528&highlight=oil+capacity

[imorb1994]

this was the link but the pics are gone
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=38528&highlight=oil+capacity

http://www.chicagosvt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23783&highlight=oil+pan+capacity
here you go^^^

[RR|Suki]

yep that's the one I was thinking of, too bad the pics are gone.
If a windage tray in a mod motor really gives 15hp the N/A guys need to get on the bus man and get em installed :burnout:

[ImpalaSlayer]

http://www.chicagosvt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23783&highlight=oil+pan+capacity
here you go^^^


thanks for finding that. was good too see again.

[FordNut]

Here's some more horsepower:
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/tech/mmfp_0707_ford_modular_engines/graphs.html

I'd like to see how much power these free up on a Marauder.

[ImpalaSlayer]

Here's some more horsepower:
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/tech/mmfp_0707_ford_modular_engines/graphs.html

I'd like to see how much power these free up on a Marauder.

arnt those like 3k or something crazy?

[FordNut]

Or more... Hey, stock cams, stock short block, swapping rocker arms still fits in the rules. Every hp counts when somebody is looking for 12's N/A.

[ImpalaSlayer]

Or more... Hey, stock cams, stock short block, swapping rocker arms still fits in the rules. Every hp counts when somebody is looking for 12's N/A.


well im outa that race and having much more fun so some one else will have to be the first.

[FordNut]

I know, just trying to egg somebody on so maybe I can buy them lightly used at a deep discount.

[RR|Suki]

I know, just trying to egg somebody on so maybe I can buy them lightly used at a deep discount.

lol, is it bad that I was thinking exactly the same thing?

[dohc324ci]

Keeps oil from sloshing up on the crank. This robs power..

That's what rick was sayin at MMR and my installer recommended it especially in the twisties....just in case LOL.

[babbage]

sloshing up from what? and from where? with 6 quarts in the pan the oil is waaaaay down there... anyone remember the pics of the oil pan where 6qts was like nothing in our pans? And our crank is tucked up in the block, it's not like a small block chevy or whatever else where the crank hangs into the pan... further we have massive heads which hold a good bit of oil while running...
Windage tray keeping the oil in the proper place and keeping it from getting frothy... ok. But a 15hp gain...

YEAH - 15 on stock more on modified engines..

Here is what MMR has to say about it, I respect and trust their opinion. They really seem to know what they are doing with modulars.



MMR Oil pan windage tray for 96-08 GT
The MMR windage tray keeps oil in the pan where it belongs, Replace the useless factory 1/2 length windage tray with a full length and see gains of up to 15HP on stock engines, even more gains on modified engines, The unique screen allows oil to quickly return to the pan but keeps oil from splashing on the crankshaft and rods which decreases drag and increases horsepower, easy bolt on,r equires no modifications, includes all hardware and easy to follow instructions. Works with stock and MMR oil pans.
http://www.modularmustangracing.com/windage.jpg

I'd install one - however I don't like the idea of jacking up engine, mounts, wiper cowl, bit PITA. I'd probably mess something up.

[babbage]

Here's some more horsepower:
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/tech/mmfp_0707_ford_modular_engines/graphs.html

I'd like to see how much power these free up on a Marauder.

Those are very nice - but $3600 for 32 of them?!! ouch! I'm surprised you don't already have these!

[RR|Suki]

I know what the windage tray does, it's the 15hp gain on our motors that is shocking to me, that's all.

[dohc324ci]

I know what the windage tray does, it's the 15hp gain on our motors that is shocking to me, that's all.

Its debatable. BTW I think those are at the crank....but for $100 bucks what the heck..why not. LOL I am not doing a before and after so will not have solid feedback on gains.

[babbage]

Did you drive it yet?

[juno]

Its debatable. BTW I think those are at the crank....but for $100 bucks what the heck..why not. LOL I am not doing a before and after so will not have solid feedback on gains.

yeah, I did the same thing while the oilpan was off. Not too many opportunities for that, so yeah, why the heck not!!!

[RR|Suki]

Its debatable. BTW I think those are at the crank....but for $100 bucks what the heck..why not. LOL I am not doing a before and after so will not have solid feedback on gains.

Agreed, I have one too, just never thought of it as adding hp :D

PS how's the car man?

[dohc324ci]

Hey all just got it home today and 9 weeks is painful! But boy does she look purdy....its waxed and looking mean..LOL

Ok, first impressions are w/o really getting into it where wow. Off the line I can now spin he rears w/o loading it up. On the freeway I can really feel the RPMs build/pull and there's weird a bit of a menacing howl (in a good way) maybe the ported intake, spacer?..dunno....I cant lie I did get on it a few times (under 5k) and I really like the new added cubes/torque its very addicting:D I cant wait for the break in miles to be done so I can see what this bad boy could do!

Anyway, I got back into town and took it to the smog station today. I was a bit nervous because there was a guy there who just dropped in a 1.8L (was 1.6L) Acura motor into his Civic and failed the sniffer test multiple times. He had ported heads, cams etc..a mild setup he says. I we sat there talking about his build and motor and vice versa when the smog guy says to me were GOOD I passed smog! That made my freakin day! BTW, as I was leaving the guy in the Civic didnt pass..poor guy I almost told him to buy a Mustang and be done with it but it was obvious he put a lot into the car I could get my self to say it..LOL

Ok now the bad news...it is a base tune for the break in period but OMG the dreaded factory shift points are back! Oh how I hate the factory shift points, and the infamous gear hunt....ugh. I asked Lidio if it was possible to have him send his tune for the shift points and no....argh. I will have to have the installer build up a new tune from scratch which bites because Lidio's trans tune was awesome!

Anyhow pics and video to follow!

Cheers!

[RacerX]

Sweeeettt!!! Shift manually in town and keep it out of OD when possible! What's the estimate on rwhp with the Boss and extra work even though it's NA? (Shift kit or J-Mod?)

[dohc324ci]

Were guesstimating around 360rwhp....No J-Mod no shift kit. I asked three shops in town and they were really confused...LOL

[RacerX]

Ooooooo! :D About 450 crank NA... Yeah, I'm saving for the extra on the 302... Yup! You cinched it! Thanks!!!!! Where's that salivating smilie???
Hey! I do have to ask! Why didn't you put good headers on?

[dohc324ci]

Ooooooo! :D About 450 crank NA... Yeah, I'm saving for the extra on the 302... Yup! You cinched it! Thanks!!!!! Where's that salivating smilie???
Hey! I do have to ask! Why didn't you put good headers on?

Money! I wanted to do shorty headers and 2.5 exhaust but I went over budget with the Heads/Cams/Intake $$

My next mod will be the transmission, torque converter then the shorty headers and exhaust. Then suspension upgrade, then rear end rebuild with 4.10s then DR Vortech then.....big brakes wildwoods...it just never ends:confused:

[ImpalaSlayer]

Money! I wanted to do shorty headers and 2.5 exhaust but I went over budget with the Heads/Cams/Intake $$

My next mod will be the transmission, torque converter then the shorty headers and exhaust. Then suspension upgrade, then rear end rebuild with 4.10s then DR Vortech then.....big brakes wildwoods...it just never ends:confused:

those 4 words pretty much sum it up LOL

[dohc324ci]

This day is getting better and better! My good FRIEND ZACK hooked me up! Davey boy CHEERS!

[ImpalaSlayer]

This day is getting better and better! My good FRIEND ZACK hooked me up! Davey boy CHEERS!

no problem man

[dohc324ci]

Completed Pics:

Quick Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i21OQtp5RB4

http://www.ca-mustangs.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=104&pictureid=791

http://www.ca-mustangs.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=104&pictureid=793

http://www.ca-mustangs.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=104&pictureid=790

http://www.ca-mustangs.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=104&pictureid=787

[O's Fan Rich]

awesome..... just an awesome job!

[dohc324ci]

Hey Rich Thanks man. Hows the Aluminator NA LB doing?

BTW, my coil covers (FRPP Powered By Ford) are back ordered so I had to borrow the ones in the pics...

Cheers!

[babbage]

Completed Pics:

Quick Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i21OQtp5RB4

http://www.ca-mustangs.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=104&pictureid=791



http://www.ca-mustangs.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=104&pictureid=787


WICKED! Is it just me or does it have a DEEPER sound to it. Sounds very sweet indeed. This is the route I want to go. Forget the trilogy.

AWESOME!

Now do another video in the daytime.

The exhaust sounds great, none of those raspy lame mufflers!!!

[dohc324ci]

I ll do another vid over the weekend...LOL now just put some bling on:

http://www.ca-mustangs.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=104&pictureid=810

http://www.ca-mustangs.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=104&pictureid=811

http://www.ca-mustangs.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=104&pictureid=812

[babbage]

well?? Where is da vid?

[dohc324ci]

I'll do another one this weekend. She sure is fun to drive! I cant wait to get it tuned and fix the god awful shift points fixed...probably drop off this weekend and pick up next friday.

[babbage]

Bump. Ver es da Wideo?

[dohc324ci]

Hahahaha...755 miles so I sent her back in for the DYNO Tune!

[ntd]

then vid on the dyno or:banned:. Kidding can't wait to see some numbers for this combo

[dohc324ci]

then vid on the dyno or:banned:. Kidding can't wait to see some numbers for this combo

I am anxious myself; my wifes 06 mustang gt did 289rwhp/307rwtq...on the dyno this weekend....was really surprised and happy..only Steeda CAI....thats what I need to experience when the Big bore is on the dyno LOL...if not :bigcry: I may just go into hiding...:D

[ImpalaSlayer]

I am anxious myself; my wifes 06 mustang gt did 289rwhp/307rwtq...on the dyno this weekend....was really surprised and happy..only Steeda CAI....thats what I need to experience when the Big bore is on the dyno LOL...if not :bigcry: I may just go into hiding...:D

or just send me your engine and ill put it to use :D

[babbage]

LOL - I'm sure you'll do fine. You'd better or MMR ain't getting my money.