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ImpalaSlayer

09-18-2009, 01:45 PM

well today i took the plunge
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0867.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0868.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0888.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0889.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0890.jpg

just got it tore down for today. does this amount of oil look normal? if not, how can i lessen the amount that enters the intake?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0876.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0877.jpg
there was also a fair amount inside the intake but i couldnt get a pic, just seemed like a even coating through out.

Joe Walsh

09-18-2009, 01:48 PM

Hey Dave,
Are you selling your NAZ intake?

ImpalaSlayer

09-18-2009, 01:48 PM

Hey Dave,
Are you selling your NAZ intake?

already sold, sorry

Marauderjack

09-18-2009, 01:53 PM

Don't worry about that little bit of oil Dave!!:shake:

DOOM

09-18-2009, 02:03 PM

Hey davey maybe we can line em' up before the end of the season. :D

ImpalaSlayer

09-18-2009, 02:06 PM

Hey davey maybe we can line em' up before the end of the season. :D

sure hope to doom. ill only be in the low 400s for hp though.

twin03

09-18-2009, 02:14 PM

Dave, I am glad that it's not a second stall job......

ImpalaSlayer

09-18-2009, 02:18 PM

Dave, I am glad that it's not a second stall job......

haha yup, even my wimpy ass can lift the blower :lol:

RacerX

09-18-2009, 02:32 PM

Is it wrong that those pics turn me on more than porn??? :D

-Matt-

09-18-2009, 02:36 PM

thats all you got done so far? What the hell are you doing online? Get that **** knocked out!!!

marauder_dallas

09-18-2009, 02:57 PM

how much did you pay for your eaton? and are you doing the install your self?

"MM MATT" always has something to say hes a wesol

by the way dave looking nice post more pics when done.

-Matt-

09-18-2009, 02:59 PM

"MM MATT" always has something to say hes a wesol

What did you just call me?

marauder_dallas

09-18-2009, 03:07 PM

What did you just call me?

W E S O L LOL DUDE JUST SIT BACK AND SOME ONE:bandit: :beatnik:

ImpalaSlayer

09-18-2009, 03:18 PM

i paied 200 for the eaton, plenum and throttle bracket. and yes im installing it

-Matt-

09-18-2009, 03:30 PM

W E S O L LOL DUDE JUST SIT BACK AND SOME ONE:bandit: :beatnik:

Maybe ill see you in centerville, and ill buy ya a beer...

marauder_dallas

09-18-2009, 03:33 PM

awsome im looking for one my self they got one on ebay for 600 from an 03 cobra. Trilogy is well over 5,000 easy

marauder_dallas

09-18-2009, 03:35 PM

Maybe ill see you in centerville, and ill buy ya a beer...

MY TREAT ILL INVITE YOU TO THE GOLD CLUB :beer: :beatnik: :bandit:

O's Fan Rich

09-18-2009, 03:54 PM

Hope it all goes smooth as silk, Dave.

justbob

09-18-2009, 04:53 PM

Wish you my best Dave! How many trips to the auto parts store so far. HEHE.

ChiTownMaraud3r

09-18-2009, 05:02 PM

What model Eaton is this? Looks smaller than the usual m112 most have?

ImpalaSlayer

09-18-2009, 05:21 PM

What model Eaton is this? Looks smaller than the usual m112 most have?

straight off a cobra. it looks tiny cuz it is. lil baby blower! but its better then the one i have now! (none) plus i can always just switch to a kb or a whipple.

dohc324ci

09-18-2009, 05:25 PM

Hey bud good luck with the install!

Bradley G

09-18-2009, 06:14 PM

I thought the Cobra Eaton blower had a snout that was too short to accommodate the fead system on the Marauder?
Please explain how it is different than the Trilogy.

DOOM

09-18-2009, 06:21 PM

What size injectors are you going with?

ImpalaSlayer

09-18-2009, 06:32 PM

What size injectors are you going with?

thirty nines

ImpalaSlayer

09-18-2009, 06:32 PM

I thought the Cobra Eaton blower had a snout that was too short to accommodate the fead system on the Marauder?
Please explain how it is different than the Trilogy.

cobra snout is longer and air intake is on the opposit side. have you not seen Zacks eaton swap?

Got_1

09-18-2009, 07:18 PM

i'll be watching this closely. goodluck bro!

Georges93LX

09-18-2009, 08:54 PM

:bows::beer::up:Lookin Good Dave.

ctrlraven

09-18-2009, 09:24 PM

sure hope to doom. ill only be in the low 400s for hp though.
Yeah but remember DOOM is running a stockish engine also, stock TC and stock 3.55 gears where have the TC and 4.10 gear advantage over him.

dohc324ci

09-18-2009, 09:38 PM

Dave you done yet? more pics!

DOOM

09-18-2009, 10:09 PM

Yeah but remember DOOM is running a stockish engine also, stock TC and stock 3.55 gears where have the TC and 4.10 gear advantage over him.

:snore: :snoopy:

dohc324ci

09-18-2009, 10:11 PM

:snore: :snoopy:
LOL you made me think waw waw waw waw

ImpalaSlayer

09-19-2009, 06:00 AM

Dave you done yet? more pics!

your funny. this is gona take atleast a week for me to finish

DOOM

09-19-2009, 08:22 AM

You need to change your sig.
It still says gunnin for the 12's N/A :lol:

Bradley G

09-20-2009, 04:30 PM

No, I have not seen or heard from him in quite some time.
please post pics I'm curious how the Cobra set up gets modded to fit the Marauder.
cobra snout is longer and air intake is on the opposit side. have you not seen Zacks eaton swap?

ImpalaSlayer

09-20-2009, 04:34 PM

No, I have not seen or heard from him in quite some time.
please post pics I'm curious how the Cobra set up gets modded to fit the Marauder.

dosent really get modded, the marauder gets modded around it.

ImpalaSlayer

09-20-2009, 04:36 PM

well spent a little time on it today. i got the knock sensors removed and the bosses ground down. also got the IAT relocated and and the lower intake bolted up.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0891.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0896.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0892.jpg

ImpalaSlayer

09-20-2009, 04:37 PM

i also learned how to set the camera up for a macro shot. yay me!

DOOM

09-20-2009, 04:41 PM

Lookin good davey :D

ImpalaSlayer

09-20-2009, 04:42 PM

Lookin good davey :D

i set the blower in there for fun today! i cant wait!

4play

09-20-2009, 04:54 PM

re locate the iac? to where from where?

ImpalaSlayer

09-20-2009, 04:59 PM

re locate the iac? to where from where?

the iat not the iac. factory maruaders have the iat built into the maf. that would obviosly not work well for a supercharged system, so it was relocated to the lower intake same as the trilogys (reads the same air not 100% sure where it is on the trilogy set ups).

FordNut

09-20-2009, 05:19 PM

well spent a little time on it today. i got the knock sensors removed and the bosses ground down. also got the IAT relocated and and the lower intake bolted up.

Why not just use the Cobra IAT?

ImpalaSlayer

09-20-2009, 05:38 PM

Why not just use the Cobra IAT?

Zack told me the cobra uses a MAP or something? dunno, im just following his lead.

scruff

09-20-2009, 07:12 PM

that IAT sensor looks like a lighting one its threaded so should be the right one .. i was wondering if you really have the parts to do this install your self?

ImpalaSlayer

09-20-2009, 07:27 PM

that IAT sensor looks like a lighting one its threaded so should be the right one .. i was wondering if you really have the parts to do this install your self?
it is a lightning one, are you questoning my ablitiy?

ctrlraven

09-20-2009, 08:12 PM

Dave you are going to become my new installer lol. I just might have to go with this kit since it's budget and should work well on a stock motor.

FordNut

09-20-2009, 08:15 PM

Zack told me the cobra uses a MAP or something? dunno, im just following his lead.

The Cobra has a combined sensor for IAT and MAP. I just figured since you have a cobra blower it already has the hole for it so it would make sense to use it instead of drill, tap, adapt to the Lightning one. You'll either have to just leave the Cobra one installed and unused or plug off the hole.

offroadkarter

09-20-2009, 09:11 PM

it is a lightning one, are you questoning my ablitiy?

Dave builds Friggin jet fighter aircrafts, I think he can install a cobra blower on a MM :D

ImpalaSlayer

09-21-2009, 04:08 AM

ImpalaSlayer

09-21-2009, 04:10 AM

Dave you are going to become my new installer lol. I just might have to go with this kit since it's budget and should work well on a stock motor.

ive spent about 2500 bucks so far. ill give a full break down when im finished. i could definitly help you.

FordNut

09-21-2009, 06:18 AM

The Cobra has a combined sensor for IAT and MAP. I just figured since you have a cobra blower it already has the hole for it so it would make sense to use it instead of drill, tap, adapt to the Lightning one. You'll either have to just leave the Cobra one installed and unused or plug off the hole.

yeah, the plan is to just block it off.

I see. Just seems kind of redundant to make a new hole and plug the old one to accomplish the same purpose.

Here's the instructions on using the Cobra sensor. It makes for a cleaner install than blockoff plates & such. Plus it keeps the MAP sensor functional.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55645

O's Fan Rich

09-21-2009, 07:13 AM

You done yet Dave?.......

ImpalaSlayer

09-21-2009, 08:22 AM

thanks for the link Brian, what exactly is a map? since i already have the iat put in the lower i may as well keep it there.

FordNut

09-21-2009, 09:25 AM

Pressure. In a NA car it usually reads atmospheric pressure and allows the PCM to make adjustments for changing altitude when you travel. In a blown car it can be used by the PCM to make changes based on manifold pressure (boost). The MM PCM doesn't have the ability to compensate for boost, but it should still be able to make adjustments for altitude.

justbob

09-21-2009, 10:15 AM

I installed the IAT2 upgrade but have yet to hook it up. He who can not be named told me to simply run the two wires to the outside two on the MAF.

O's Fan Rich

09-21-2009, 12:06 PM

Dave.... you done yet?

ImpalaSlayer

09-21-2009, 12:32 PM

Dave.... you done yet?

like i said b4 this will take me atleast a week prolly more like 2 or 3

DOOM

09-21-2009, 12:41 PM

How's the install coming along davey?

ImpalaSlayer

09-21-2009, 12:43 PM

How's the install coming along davey?

good, i just got the lower pully and hub on. goning to go back out in a few.

ctrlraven

09-21-2009, 01:46 PM

MAP - Manifold Air Pressure, it was a selectable gauge reading on the Scangauge unit.

Vortech347

09-21-2009, 02:44 PM

Install an oil catchcan. I had to do it on our 01' it was suckin in WAY to much oil. I'm doing one in the MM soon. Not an aircompressor filter, a TRUE 1 quart catch can.

P.S. I'm jealous as ****....

Marauderjack

09-21-2009, 02:49 PM

Got it runnin' yet Dave??:confused:

ImpalaSlayer

09-21-2009, 03:19 PM

this will not be done for a few weeks please stop asking.

O's Fan Rich

09-21-2009, 03:50 PM

this will not be done for a few weeks please stop asking.

OOHHHHH Dave.... poke the tiger!!!!!!:D:D:D

ImpalaSlayer

09-21-2009, 04:10 PM

you guys are rough :rolleyes:

ImpalaSlayer

09-22-2009, 01:17 PM

got a good dent in today. i got the battery moved over to the drivers side. the mount is rock solid. and i think, since i relocated my air suspension pump, i can put a washer fluid bottle under the battery tray. i also made a block off plate for the egr and bolted up the inter cooler to the eaton.

heres the battery tray before the die grinder found it
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0903.jpg
and after
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0898.jpg

i used the 2 factory mounting holes on the tray. the one on the drivers of the tray lined up with an existing bolt already there. so i took it out and replaced it with a longer bolt that held the tray on the other side. for the passenger side of the tray there was alreay a hole but no nut plate, nor was there anyway to get a nut in there with out removing a bunch of crap. so i made this little guy and was very please with how well it worked. i just held it while i tightened the bolt.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0901.jpg
its just a piece of steel bent in an L shape that i welded a nut to.
heres the tray installed
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0901.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0911.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0913.jpg
one of the intercooler
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0905.jpg
i got the lower pulley setup bolted on yesterday as well
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0913.jpg

Vortech347

09-22-2009, 01:22 PM

Looks slow.

Damn I'm jealous.

ImpalaSlayer

09-23-2009, 03:25 PM

got some more time in on it today. i got the alt relocation and blower belt tensioner brackets mocked into place. the wp pulley comes very close, you guys think i can run a pully with no ridge? i know the vortech kits do.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0926.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0921.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0923.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0927.jpg

ctrlraven

09-23-2009, 03:29 PM

Looks like it's starting to come together nicely Dave, keep up the good work.

ImpalaSlayer

09-23-2009, 03:33 PM

thanks Chris

O's Fan Rich

09-23-2009, 04:20 PM

thanks Chris

Hey Dave......

VVVVVVVVVVVVV You know VVVVVVVVVVV

:lol:

sd8683

09-23-2009, 04:24 PM

Lookin good Dave but the welds on that bracket are yukkkkkkyyyy :rofl:

ImpalaSlayer

09-23-2009, 04:25 PM

Lookin good Dave but the welds on that bracket are yukkkkkkyyyy :rofl:

lets just hope they hold better then the nazty intake

sd8683

09-23-2009, 04:26 PM

lets just hope they hold better then the nazty intake

Touche my friend, Touche!

O's Fan Rich

09-23-2009, 04:43 PM

Dave, my Trilogy alternator bracket has a real nice machined step for the wp pulley.... and I got the tool to remove the alternator pulley......

Thought you'd like to know....

ImpalaSlayer

09-23-2009, 04:44 PM

Dave, my Trilogy alternator bracket has a real nice machined step for the wp pulley.... and I got the tool to remove the alternator pulley......

Thought you'd like to know....

intresting. it clears now but just barely. and i dont need the tool anymore, i got the pullyey off but its no longer useable :D

DOOM

09-23-2009, 04:51 PM

Is it done yet???

offroadkarter

09-23-2009, 05:17 PM

Is it done yet???

done yet.... it is?

the world wants to know, they do...

O's Fan Rich

09-23-2009, 05:31 PM

Dude is slow....... slow........ slow...... you know?

FordNut

09-24-2009, 04:40 PM

Apparently the other thread is the wrong place for useful info.

FordNut

09-24-2009, 04:48 PM

More pics...

FordNut

09-24-2009, 04:57 PM

i got started on that today, cut a factory cross over to pieces, got confused and threw in the towl for the day! got any pics of yours?

Finished product...
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/showimage.php?i=13803&c=3&userid=518

Somewhere I've got some pics of the sequence to make it. I'll try to find them. (edit: found something).

Started out with a '03-'04 Cobra crossover tube so it fits under the blower snout and has the mounting tabs at the heads. Use the Marauder piece also so the heater hose nipple and radiator hose fittings are in the right place. Cut the tubes on the Marauder crossover and Cobra crossover so that the o-ring slip fitting is straight and not in a bind, as well as not sticking out so far that it will hit the blower belt. Spot weld it together, then take it somewhere for permanent welding. That takes care of the main part, but the hose to the thermostat is now going to hit the alternator. What I did for that is to whack off the hose barb end, chop up one of the unused elbows, add a curved section, and put the hose barb back on. I can't remember for sure, I may have added an extension to move the whole radiator hose connection over toward the driver's side. (edit: I cut it off, flipped it around, and welded it back on to move the t-stat hose fitting). Then remove a temp sensor bung from the Marauder piece and add it to the passenger's side Cobra tube. Each step of the way, test fit, tack weld, take it for "good" welding. (edit: I also added a brace that came from the Cobra piece and attaches to the timing cover bolt on the driver's side, keeps it nice & rigid). At the end, pressure check, powder coat, install. (edit: the filler bung next to the blower had to be ground down to clear the Whipple 3.4 but it will clear the Eaton without mods).