Steering problems

[bawazir]

Hi all,
I bought new tires, i got my aligment 4 times from sears and still can't get it right, any way some how the got it right the 5th time. NOW my NEW problem is that my steering always been on the right side. every time i look at it is on the 1 2 o'clock pestion for car to drive stright. do u guyz have the same issue? dose you streeing pestion to the right for the car to go stright

[guspech750]

For me. Only if the road is slightly pitched as with any vehicle I believe.

[MM2004]

For the steering wheel to be that skewed to one side or the other would mean the alignment was waaaay off to begin with.

Cases like this require the steering wheel to be removed and put back on to where it is straight.

I am questioning the alignment due to the number of times it took to get it right.

You may want to take it somewhere else and verify it's correct.

Mike.

[SC Cheesehead]

Did you go with Carfixer's specs on the front? If not, you're prolly looking at replacing tour front tires in less than 10K miles?

BTW, what tires did you go with?

[Mike]

Hi all,
I bought new tires, i got my aligment 4 times from sears and still can't get it right, any way some how the got it right the 5th time. NOW my NEW problem is that my steering always been on the right side. every time i look at it is on the 1 2 o'clock pestion for car to drive stright. do u guyz have the same issue? dose you streeing pestion to the right for the car to go stright

Not sure where at in Chicago you live, but I've taken my car here and have had no problems....Wilrae Inc (http://www.wilrae.com/?PageData=30373) - www.wilrae.com
9200 South Harlem Avenue, Bridgeview - (708) 599-0900

[fastblackmerc]

The only things I get at Sears are tools and batteries.

As stated, get Carfixer's alignment specs. The search function is your friend.

Go to a competent shop for your alignment (ask friend, neighbors and coworkers for recommendations)

If the shop you chose won't align to your specs, ie. Carfixer's then find another shop.

The most important thing is to make sure they have the correct adapters for the MM's wheels.

[Stranger in the Black Sedan]

The only thing it can be is the alignment. A lot of alignment techs don't know what they are doing, find a good shop!

[Got_1]

just a lazy tech. the old alignment rack at my shop was terrible and you would always have to come in after the road test to straighten the wheel but we just got a new John bean alignment machine and that thing is a beauty. steering wheel is straight every time. so to the original poster....the tech that did your alignment roadtested it (or maybe not which is just as bad) afterwards, saw the wheel was out and said F it, close enough,.

go somewhere else

[bawazir]

Did you go with Carfixer's specs on the front? If not, you're prolly looking at replacing tour front tires in less than 10K miles?

BTW, what tires did you go with?

dose that really work? the carfixer specs

[bawazir]

I WENT WITH THE STOCK TIRES BF Goodrich,
ANOTHER ISSUE I AM HAVING AFTER I GOT MY alignment DONE MY TIRES LOOK LIKE ONE SIDE IS TOE RIGHT AND THE OTHER TIRE TOE A LITTLE TO THE LEFT. THE TOLD ME IT IS normal for the MM TO HAVE IT LIKE THAT. AND I FREAKING JUST BOUGHT THOSE TIRE'S 2DAYS AGO....... DOSE UR MM LOOK LIKE THE ONE SIDE OF THE TIRE A LITTLE BIT TO THE RIGHT AND THE OTHER TIRE TO LEFT WHEN U HAVE THE STEERING WHEEL stright. i will try carfixer spec. I will send pic's later for all you to see.

[bawazir]

NICE THANK'S HOW MUCH DID THEY CHARGE YOU?
CAN I HAVE UR CONTACT NUMBER SO I HAVE LITTLE qustions about the MM can you provide me with ur number


thanks again

[bawazir]

Did you go with Carfixer's specs on the front? If not, you're prolly looking at replacing tour front tires in less than 10K miles?

BTW, what tires did you go with?
I have the STOCK BF. AND MAN THEY LOOK GOOD NEW. I WILL GET THAT carfixer Alignment done. i was just wondring dose ur MM LEFT TIRE STICKING OUT TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT STICKING TO RIGHT when you have ur streeing wheel stright?. IT IS DRIVING ME CRAZY.

[Georges93LX]

PM to me from Carfixer himself:


For the past couple of years, I have been setting most to -.3. The biggest cause for tire wear in the factory alignment has been the toe out. It gets compounded with the negative camber. By taking the toe out away and setting the camber to -.3 to -.5, you eliminate the tire wear issue and retain the handling. I hadn't been too active on this site for some time and didn't update it. I will have the mods update the document.
Claude

[bawazir]

Thank alot for the info.. i will do this as soon as the next get my spec.. can u send me the spec info from to give it to the shop

[bawazir]

can u send me the spec?

[bawazir]

Any one know what is the new carfixer spec

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Stock I think one tire will always seem to stick out further, I remember seeing this even on a 99 TC we had before.

[Stranger in the Black Sedan]

zero toe -.3 to -.5 camber will get you where you want. The tires should all point straight. If they don't either it's not aligned right or your body panels are not all symmetrical about the vehicle centerline. LOL

[LeoVampire]

With the car running you have to center the stearing wheel and then lock it in place before shutting the car off with a seat to wheel clamp.

Then they need to set the car up for a thrust angle alignment on the machine before locking in the spec's they are trying to reach on the alignment it's self.

These are the alighnment spec's I have writen down from Carfixer's post.

Camber -.3 to -.5
Toe absolute 0 deg.
Caster is positive 5 to 6.5 with a .3 deg lead on the right side

I hope this info helps you out!

[bawazir]

Well i took my car to Sears today and the redone my alignment. Can you guys help me confirm if i have the spec right?
I told the person to follow the carfixer note that u gays provieded me this what he done:
Front Left Camber -0.9'
Front Left Caster 5.6'
Front Left Toe -0.01
---------------------------------
Right Left Camber -1.0
Right Left Caster 5.9
Right Left Toe 0.01
---------------------------------
FRONT
Cross Camber 0.1
Cross Caster -0.3
Cross SAI -0.1
Totall Toe 0.00

After the Alignment as i was walking to pick up my keys the person told me nice grand marquis. those fu**r's thought that i was driving a grand marquis and i told me MM have same spec as the grand marquis . wtf

[bawazir]

Not sure where at in Chicago you live, but I've taken my car here and have had no problems....Wilrae Inc (http://www.wilrae.com/?PageData=30373) - www.wilrae.com
9200 South Harlem Avenue, Bridgeview - (708) 599-0900

did he do the carfixer spec? and did he remove the flags?

[Mike]

did he do the carfixer spec? and did he remove the flags?
When I went they did remove the flags and do carfixers spec's. Never had problems after that :banana:

[fastblackmerc]

Well i took my car to Sears today and the redone my alignment. Can you guys help me confirm if i have the spec right?
I told the person to follow the carfixer note that u gays provieded me this what he done:
Front Left Camber -0.9'
Front Left Caster 5.6'
Front Left Toe -0.01
---------------------------------
Right Left Camber -1.0
Right Left Caster 5.9
Right Left Toe 0.01
---------------------------------
FRONT
Cross Camber 0.1
Cross Caster -0.3
Cross SAI -0.1
Totall Toe 0.00

After the Alignment as i was walking to pick up my keys the person told me nice grand marquis. those fu**r's thought that i was driving a grand marquis and i told me MM have same spec as the grand marquis . wtf

Sears... :eek: :shake: :shake:

The Marauder is based on the Grand Marquis / Crown Victoria platform so they are partially right.

Here are the specs
Camber -.3 to -.5
Toe absolute 0 deg.
Caster is positive 5 to 6.5 with a .3 deg lead on the right side

Do they match?

I give you a hint..... camber is off.

[bawazir]

how cani get teh camber close in do i have to remove the flag