made 2passes at the track 2day

[breeze]

well today i went to the track today. Cecil County to be exact...well if you havent noticed i have a "FACTORY FREAK"...i have the STOCK 2 1/4 pipping, STOCK manifolds, STOCK airbox, STOCK 3:55 gears, ALL 4 cats, tips with the resonators basiclly ALL STOCK EXCEPT i have a muffler swap. 40series FLOWMASTERS is the ONLY change ive done to my car since ive had it which is since July and almost 7k miles put on it since ive had her...well local CAMers say if you go and run at Cecil you will run your best time there EVERYONE does. at my local track my best is 14.71...the cold air and elevation at Cecil is the reason why everyone runs there best time there INCLUDING ME NOW...:banana:...BUT GUESS what. ive got a party to go to so when i come back i will give you all the details and BOTH E/Ts at the track because theres a main reaon why they are what they are...yall should play a guessing game.lol... AND THE PERSON I TALKED TO AT THE TRACK YOU CANT PLAY.lol...:D...DETAILS IN POST #4...

[DOOM]

:D :burnout:

[ntd]

nice times for stock, not to far off my modded times I need to learn to drive:depress:.

[breeze]

okay so i get to the track and let the car cool off because i just made a 80mile drive to the track 30miles with air supsenion off was prefered by others..i knew it was going to be a good day because im superstitious and if you've been to the track with me my car number has to have a 5 in it. 151 was the number.:D... so i tried to take my headlight out but guess what, didnt have the right socket size i brought a 10mm instead of an 11mm.cant take the corner out so headlight cant come out..so i hit DOOM up and asked about IMPALASLAYER and was thinking maybe head would have 1 for me to use when he came up here. i got a hold of him and he couldnt make it...sooooo my car was cooled off for about 30mins and i hoped right into the lanes...my turn came with the HEADLIGHT IN. stalled it to 18-1900rmp range and i pulled a 14.57 ..:D...DOOM has been telling me ever since i got into the 14's stock i should run at Cecil...he also told me he wouldnt be surprise if i did pull a 14.5 and i should aim for that but i just wanted to get better then my previous best 14.71...well running that i just had to take the headlight out and see what it would do with it off...i ask around and finally 1 of the IMP and CAPRICE dudes lets me barrow a socket...WELL WORTH IT!!!...so i take the headlight out and let it cool off some more. i told my brother i ran what he runs (hes has a 94caprice rebuilt race tranny/headres/3:73 gears runs 14.5)...he told me drop my tire pressure to 15 because i spun alittle out the hole and lowering it would help me get traction. i droped it to 20psi in the rear...i told 2 guys on the fence i was aimming for 14.4.lol..lined up against some old pickup truck...light turns green and im still at the tree i wanted to get the rmps at its peek..1900rpms tires started to budge...R/T came to a 2.431 tires chirped 2 or 3 times and hooked and i pulled a ...14.31...and blew past that old truck 3/4's down the track.lol...i was done by 2pm and thought about waiting till it got a bit colder so i could get a better time...my cars my daily driver, shes already did what she came to do no need to risk damage so i called it a day. i could put my headlight in because i didnt have the socket so i drove home with headight out and that was fun.lol...sounded better and response was better...09 seasons over had a very very good year...july of 2010 =CAI and a TUNE with zacks trans...good looking out too DOOM. your always giving me advise...:beer:

[LANDY]

wow. just wow.my car on a cold day about 80' above sea level it ran 14.1 @ 99mph. with all catalitic converter neutered, 4.10 lidio tune, k&n intake. and on 80 degree wheather coudnt get below 14.3.
that is one helluva factory FREAK.
is it an '04?

[breeze]

nah its a 03...my 60ft is better when i ran the 14.7 than it is with the 14.3...i think it was a 2.25 to a 3.03.
^^^^mistake 2.303-60ft

[Glockafella]

breeze, do you weight about 80 lbs?

[breeze]

hahaha...5'11..145lbs.lol

[LANDY]

nah its a 03...my 60ft is better when i ran the 14.7 than it is with the 14.3...i think it was a 2.25 to a 3.03.
intense!
what mph?

[Glockafella]

Man...you must have been about 80mph in the 1/8th

[breeze]

i looked over the timeslip the 14.71 was a 2.265 @95.76mph
the 14.31--98.10mph
60ft-2.303
330-6.165
1/8-9.317
1/8mph-78.28
1000ft-12.019
1/4-14.31
mph-98.10

[DOOM]

Mr. breeze keeps on blowin' down the road. :burn:

Great run bro you have alot to be proud of. :up:

[breeze]

thanks sandman.lol

[ImpalaSlayer]

thats a pretty crazy time. you sure the previous owner didnt load a tune on it?

[breeze]

After two weeks of ownership some feedback

^^^^ thats a thread up in Community^^^ the ones i highlighted are the samething my care does and his is stock also....
(and i quote)Ok, I've had the car for two weeks now, it's an 03 Blue with about 70,000 miles on it...(mine is a black 03 62k miles) Things I like and dislike.

The ride is great, the mileage is fine, I get about 300 miles, or 500 kilometers on a full tank of mostly city 60/40 driving with some spirited driving thrown in for good measure. The car gets some nice complements and stares, power is adequate but I i'll be looking to improve a bit.

I find that the transmission shifts into the high gears way too quickly, lock up in third occurs at approximately 30 miles per hour, by 40 I am in fourth with the converter locked. I have added added a CAI, and will add a tune and prob some 4.10's as I have a set which I was going to install in a Mustang I used to own.

As for the tune I have yet to decide on which one, if others can chime in that would be great. I think most delay lock up, firm up and delay and shift points which should really change the way the car feels.

On a cold start after sitting over night, I get the slightest puff of what looks like blueish smoke, it clears up in a matter of seconds and I don't smell oil. No leaks from what I can see. Overall the car seems to have held up very well.

Tires.... they seem hard to find, but I'm doing my homework. With my GN it's easy Mickey Thompson E/T streets on the rear, it was the same for the stang (now sold to cousin).

It's too bad the snow is going to fly here and I have to put it away until the spring. At least that will give me some time to stock up on some goodies so I can make this Marauder even better. Tune, Tune-up, all fluid and filter changes and a good detail job in the spring, then I'll take some better pics.

so i have the typical settings as his stock marauder does. which could only mean im stock. i might just have 1 that likes to haul azz.lol...also ME, TWIN and DOOM went out to eat this past week and we rode in Twins car and as soon a i got in mine and pulled off i could feel the difference in power.

[ctrlraven]

Something still doesn't sound right. I would bet money on that you have at least a tune and even possible 4.10 gears.

And the reason why the Mike's tune wouldn't load on your car is because his is an 04 and yours is a 03, going to have different PCM codes.

Great runs non the less though. I just wouldn't be calling it thee factory freak just yet.

[ImpalaSlayer]

Something still doesn't sound right. I would bet money on that you have at least a tune and even possible 4.10 gears.

And the reason why the Mike's tune wouldn't load on your car is because his is an 04 and yours is a 03, going to have different PCM codes.

Great runs non the less though. I just wouldn't be calling it thee factory freak just yet.


i wouldnt doubt this either but i hope im wrong! not trying to put you down or call you out in anyway Breeze, but those are some damn fast times for "stock" mm. but if it is indeed stock, those are so sweet times for sure!

[breeze]

yea, i was thinking earlier on the times and for a stock they do seem a little suspect... those times go to a car with CAI, tune, headers as i see in the timeslips...well i cant have gears because with mild driving and gunned at times, some what move through traffic and with some highway miles i can get 330 to a tank. got that couple weeks ago..so i think if anything prolly a bs tune....

[ctrlraven]

14.31 is on par with a car that has an CAI, tune, some exhaust work and all but not headers.

I ran a 14.35 with a tune from a member (not zack) JLT, plugs, coil connectors, flowmasters, and res-delete tips on stock 245/55-18 tires. I removed the 2nd set of cats and changed the rear tires to 255/55-18 bfg kdw2 (3.50 effective rear gear with the larger rear tire) and dropped to 14.25 where I stayed until I got a 3500 stall converter and a Zack tune.

[breeze]

im just going off of the guys that run 14's and what they had that i sen in the timeslips...i have 235/50 all around so that should help my gears out. so 3:55s get bumped up to a ?:??...

[Glenn]

Nice numbers, let's see the timeslip. That will end any questions.

Glenn Ford :burnout:

[ImpalaSlayer]

Nice numbers, let's see the timeslip. That will end any questions.

Glenn Ford :burnout:


no one is questioning the fact he ran a 14.3 :shake:

were questioning how a "stock" mm can run a 14.3 and just bout all other stock mms are in the low 15s high 14s

:stupid:

[breeze]

hey Glen, i dont know how to post a timeslip yet but i made a post of it on post #11.

[Glenn]

I agree - the MM is not stock to run a 14.31

Glenn

[ctrlraven]

im just going off of the guys that run 14's and what they had that i sen in the timeslips...i have 235/50 all around so that should help my gears out. so 3:55s get bumped up to a ?:??...
Stock rear is 245/55-18 and 3.55 gears = 3.55 gear

235/50-18 and 3.55 gears = 3.719 effective rear gear

[ImpalaSlayer]

hey Glen, i dont know how to post a timeslip yet but i made a post of it on post #11.


i just took a pic of it with my camera

[breeze]

could tracks make a difference with weather?...or should i go and get it dyno'd and see if they say i have a tune!?

[ImpalaSlayer]

could tracks make a difference with weather?...or should i go and get it dyno'd and see if they say i have a tune!?

lol no need to dyno, have some one that has a tune drive it and see what they say.

different tracks can make a difference but not that much difference!

[ctrlraven]

A shop can't tell if you have a tune or not, but a dyno will tell, if you don't have a tune it will be around 240whp and 250tq bone stock give or take 5hp/tq.

A tune would bump the power up to 260hp/280tq range at the rear.

[breeze]

so i should have Doom or Twin drive my car, they both haves tunes. i hear from them weekly...

[Pops]

It could be the cold weather and the fact that it was at sea level. I think it has a tune in it. Sometimes you just pull one out of your rear!

[ctrlraven]

Capitol is 20" above sea level, if they prepped the track better it would be a better track to run on compared to Cecil and then MIR.

[breeze]

well ima have them drive my car and see what they say. thats the cheap way!!.lol...and when Doom gets his re-tune im suppose to roll with him and ill have them dyno it for MY clearity and YOURS...

[breeze]

on Cecils it said 320 above sea level

[ImpalaSlayer]

on Cecils it said 320 above sea level


yeah its higher but their prep is far better then pos capitol. ill never run at capital again

[breeze]

at capital i ran on a good night 38 degrees a 14.71 i have a couple witness. on a 55 degree my brother pulled a 14.84 MANUAL SHIFTED AT 5700rpms, both with headlight in....yea i may be done at Captial too!

[ctrlraven]

Having them drive your car isn't going to tell whether you have a tune or not lol.

I have no problem with Capitol cause I adapt to their track. Their left lane is the better lane to run in.

Having a dyno is the only way to tell and 235/50-18 is not the stock size rear tire so you're still not totally "factory".

[breeze]

i bought my car that way.lol
all my runs are on the right side.lol..now i can agree with u on the tire size not being stock because that does give me a gain 3:55 bumped to a 3:71 gear ratio with the 235/50 tires but the muffler swap thats kinda harsh. now i can play too, the cuts and welds he did messed with my air of the flow!..lol

[DOOM]

Stop giving the kid a hard time birdman. :D

[DOOM]

Sometimes you just pull one out of your rear!

Spoken from the MASTER!!! :lol:

[breeze]

so Doom your caught up on the matter, just let me know when your hitn the Dyno so we can let it tell the truth!..."Factory Freak" with flows and 3;71 gears or A "Tuned Marauder" with flows and 3:71 gears.lol...i know where you stand.lol

[LANDY]

whether makes a huge difference, plus track does 2.
on a cold wheather 34 degrees @ atlanta raceway i did 13.8 @ 100mph with the mods on my sig.
on my local track @ gainesville raceway right after getting the car dyno tuned from D.R. @ 80 degrees i did my best of 14.1 with the same mods, which is the same time i did before the headers on 40 degree wheather the previous year.
Breeze if your car is stock, with all n/a bolt ons you can hit the 12's.
then we will all be jelous.
LANDY

[Glenn]

Breeze:

You ran some really nice numbers for a modded MM. I would be very proud of your car. Now you just have to find out what mods you have. You have at least a tune and 4:10s, perhaps even a TC. The 4:10s are easy to determine by indexing your drive shaft and tires and counting the rotations of each. Be happy you got a nice modded MM regardless of what the mods are. Now put a CAI and UDPs on it with some DRs and break into the 13s.

Glenn Ford :burnout:

[breeze]

well the TC is thrown out because at 19-2000rpms the tires budge...4:10 gears PLUS i have 235/50's they would bump up the gears and i still get 300+ miles to a tank easily, so u think i still have them!?...i will lift my car up and see what they are though!!!...now the tune thats what i have to find out!!! im not the type to brag, i didnt call my car a Factory freak until someone called it that. i change my sig because ALL STOCK is in questioned... so if i have just a tune what times should i average and 14.31 is rated how high if i just have a tune??

[james1986fox]

When I bought my MM it had 4.10s and I had no idea, even bought a some new 4.10s and had them installed and felt like an idiot after the shop showed me. So you never know. Great times though, I hope its stock, better chance on getting into the 12s NA.

[Bradley G]

Think of all the dough you saved on Mods!

[breeze]

with 4;10 gears would your rpms be just below 2000rpms at 65mph mine is.

[ImpalaSlayer]

with 4;10 gears would your rpms be just below 2000rpms at 65mph mine is.


no, it would be more like 23-2400ish if i remember right

[ImpalaSlayer]

haha maybe you have a stroked engine :rofl: how cool would that be?

[breeze]

i think i have to do like almost 80 for those rpms...so is the case of 4:10s thrown out?..lol

[ImpalaSlayer]

i think i have to do like almost 80 for those rpms...so is the case of 4:10s thrown out?..lol


best way is to do as said above. jack up the rear, put it neutral, and spin the tire one time. count the number of times the drive shaft goes around. if its a lil over 4, then you prolly have 410s, about 3.5 then you prolly have 355s

[breeze]

gotcha, will do.

[LANDY]

also have you made sure yur speedometer is correct?

[breeze]

it may have me going a little slower mph on the tach because i have front tires 235/50 all around...but for it to be in the 2300-2500 range i gota go 80 and for it to reach 2500 i was at 90mph.....
Originally Posted by Dennis Reinhart http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=593335#post59 3335)
...."if you drive a stock Marauder at 65 MPH the tack will run at about 2100 RPM, add 4:10 at 65 MPH the car runs 2400 RPM"...