Mercury Marauder Precision converter

[bawazir]

I was thinking to put Precision converter. People say it is way better than going to 4.10 gears. what do u guys thing should i go with a Precision performance converter. TCI told me it is the best upgrade ever no need to tune just put in and gooo faaaaaaaaast as a bird. What do you guys thing????? !! the link : http://www.converter.com/index.htm
:burnout:

[SC Cheesehead]

IMO, go with the gears and a tune.

[Pat]

better still, 4:10's, PI 3500 converter and a tune.

[SC Cheesehead]

better still, 4:10's, PI 3500 converter and a tune.

CAI, UD pulleys, and a NAZ intake, FTW!!!

[FordNut]

So do you really plan to do mods or just ask questions?

First, how much do you want to spend?

That will drive the decisions on mods.

[fastblackmerc]

Make sure you get Walmart to install them!

[LANDY]

Make sure you get Walmart to install them!
i heard jiffy lube does better!!!:lol:

[offroadkarter]

Oh Jeez, next thread prediction:


Help! I had wal mart install my new converter thingy and now my trans is leaking fluid!

[Spectragod]

Darrin @ BC Automotive can hook you up, he can install the convertor, and, it won't leak when he's done. Or........ you could just go to Wal Mart.

[SC Cheesehead]

Oh Jeez, next thread prediction:


Help! I had wal mart install my new converter thingy and now my trans is leaking fluid!

:rofl:

I have the same probelm with my car, where's the dipstick to check the fluid level in the converter thingy? ;)

[Blackened300a]

NAZ intake, FTW!!!


When you say "FTW" do you mean, Find the welder? ;)

[SC Cheesehead]

When you say "FTW" do you mean, Find the welder? ;)

Jocularity! :lol:

[bawazir]

So do you really plan to do mods or just ask questions?

First, how much do you want to spend?

That will drive the decisions on mods.

dude i am spending nothing over 1500 on gears and torque convortor

[ctrlraven]

Converter will be about $800 shipped and labor install should be around $400-500 so you're almost at your budget right there. For my converter and labor was $1106.47.

It's best to start with an tune, add an intake and then gears. Then go on from there.

I've got a PI 3500 stall converter with stock 3.55 gears and you will need a tune to correct some things with the converter. Ideally 3500 stall converter and 4.10 gears is a great combo.

[justbob]

Maybe you should just take a ride in my car bro, I am personally responsible for the sales of two Tilogy kits.

[FordNut]

dude i am spending nothing over 1500 on gears and torque convortor


Converter will be about $800 shipped and labor install should be around $400-500 so you're almost at your budget right there. For my converter and labor was $1106.47.

It's best to start with an tune, add an intake and then gears. Then go on from there.

I've got a PI 3500 stall converter with stock 3.55 gears and you will need a tune to correct some things with the converter. Ideally 3500 stall converter and 4.10 gears is a great combo.

There ya go. That $1500 will probably cover gears OR converter, not both.

If you do gears, it's probably going to cost at least $1200 when you add up the gears, installation kit, labor, and driveshaft upgrade.

[james1986fox]

I bought slitely used 4.10s for a $100, install kit for like $75 from americanmuscle.Com and paid close to $200 for the install.

[guspech750]

Maybe you should just take a ride in my car bro, I am personally responsible for the sales of two Tilogy kits.
Hey. Bob. I was never offered a ride:( And I put out!:D:lol:

[FordNut]

I bought slitely used 4.10s for a $100, install kit for like $75 from americanmuscle.Com and paid close to $200 for the install.

What about the tune? And xcal/chip/predator? You haven't blown the trans yet from not upgrading the driveshaft, have you? Just wait.

[LANDY]

^^ agreed i went the cheap way,by not upgrading the driveshaft and cracked the tailshaft housing, then i went and bought the Dynotech one and it was all good. now i just cant wait for the silver beauty to come home to swap the parts.

[Motorhead350]

P.I. is total junk. It cost me a transmission and didn't function correctly right before it broke.

Get a 3500 stall, but stay away from P.I. or anything pink for that matter.. at least that's for your car.

[SC Cheesehead]

P.I. is total junk. It cost me a transmission and didn't function correctly right before it broke.

Get a 3500 stall, but stay away from P.I. or anything pink for that matter.. at least that's for your car.

:eek: don't let Doomie hear that! :lol:

[ctrlraven]

P.I. is total junk. It cost me a transmission and didn't function correctly right before it broke.

Get a 3500 stall, but stay away from P.I. or anything pink for that matter.. at least that's for your car.
Sorry to hear that but I have 70k miles on my single disc PI 3500 stall converter and it's worked flawless after Zack corrected some stuff in the tune for it. Up until a few months ago my car was daily driven 5k miles every 2.5-3 months and I drive the car, I don't like it drive me. Can't wait to get 4.10s and do the J-mod.


:eek: don't let Doomie hear that! :lol:

:P

Two in the pink, one in the stink? :lol:

[fastblackmerc]

P.I. is total junk. It cost me a transmission and didn't function correctly right before it broke.

Get a 3500 stall, but stay away from P.I. or anything pink for that matter.. at least that's for your car.

I've had a PI converter in my Marauder for over 40k+ miles. Have not had one problem at all! PI is great stuff! Whoever installed yours most likely didn't install it correctly. The PI converters fit very tight on the input shaft and great care and a BFH are sometimes needed to make sure the converter is correctly engaged on the front pump. If not......... bye bye tranny.

[FordNut]

I've used several PI converters, never had any issues with converters until I tried one from another supplier. Then everything went to heck.

[offroadkarter]

What about the tune? And xcal/chip/predator? You haven't blown the trans yet from not upgrading the driveshaft, have you? Just wait.


Unless he's doing 100+ constantly, his stock driveshaft will be fine...

Although he should get a metco driveshaft loop just for safety.

[FordNut]

Unless he's doing 100+ constantly, his stock driveshaft will be fine...
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Totally untrue.

[ImpalaSlayer]

Totally untrue.

although im not saying stock shafts are fine, ive had mine for 20k miles witht he 410s and no problems. if only i could find a new shaft..

[FordNut]

There have been several of them that vibrated the rear seal out of the transmission with 4.10's just running highway speeds. If you catch it before the transmission is burned up from loss of fluid you can fix it fairly easily but it will happen again unless the shaft is upgraded. Sometimes you can check for leaks and find a little bit of seepage before it pushes the seal out of the housing. A few have totally destroyed the transmission because the tailhousing broke. Some stock shafts seem to work ok, most don't. I figure it's like running 15 lb boost on a stock short block, just a matter of time 'til KA-BLOOIE. Since I sometimes take road trips instead of being within the 100 mile free towing limit with AAA plus, I like to play it safe.

[SC Cheesehead]

There have been several of them that vibrated the rear seal out of the transmission with 4.10's just running highway speeds. If you catch it before the transmission is burned up from loss of fluid you can fix it fairly easily but it will happen again unless the shaft is upgraded. Sometimes you can check for leaks and find a little bit of seepage before it pushes the seal out of the housing. A few have totally destroyed the transmission because the tailhousing broke. Some stock shafts seem to work ok, most don't. I figure it's like running 15 lb boost on a stock short block, just a matter of time 'til KA-BLOOIE. Since I sometimes take road trips instead of being within the 100 mile free towing limit with AAA plus, I like to play it safe.

Brian, you make a good point. Do you know of any way a stock shaft can be checked (e.g. balance, run-out or whatever) to determine?

[ImpalaSlayer]

There have been several of them that vibrated the rear seal out of the transmission with 4.10's just running highway speeds. If you catch it before the transmission is burned up from loss of fluid you can fix it fairly easily but it will happen again unless the shaft is upgraded. Sometimes you can check for leaks and find a little bit of seepage before it pushes the seal out of the housing. A few have totally destroyed the transmission because the tailhousing broke. Some stock shafts seem to work ok, most don't. I figure it's like running 15 lb boost on a stock short block, just a matter of time 'til KA-BLOOIE. Since I sometimes take road trips instead of being within the 100 mile free towing limit with AAA plus, I like to play it safe.



definitely hear you on that.

[FordNut]

Brian, you make a good point. Do you know of any way a stock shaft can be checked (e.g. balance, run-out or whatever) to determine?

There have been a couple of members that got their shaft balanced. Sometimes it helps. Sometimes they vibrate anyway. Some members have searched out the old CVPI MMC driveshafts. If they're not damaged in a crash or by the salvage yard that's the least expensive fix, but sometimes you end up with a non-MMC shaft even if it's advertised as the good one. Since they're no longer available from FoMoCo you can't be sure unless you go aftermarket.

After being burned many times trying to get a deal or wasting a bunch of dollars trying to save a dime, I prefer to go with a something I know is gonna be right the first time.

[offroadkarter]

There have been several of them that vibrated the rear seal out of the transmission with 4.10's just running highway speeds.




Theirs been plenty of people that have run stock shafts and 4.10's fine... Some people dont even get the driveline vibration around 120mph


Every car is different...




Can you even get an aftermarket MMX shaft anymore? I know you can get them in carbon fiber still, but I only know one person with a 2002 MGM that runs that.

[Blackened300a]

I have over 40K miles, a lot of 100+ runs with 4.10s and the stock shaft. I guess Im the lucky one.

[offroadkarter]

I guess Im the lucky one.


Nah, Naz intake attempt 1 made up for that :D