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In 1958 Mercury introduced “a complete family of revolutionary new Marauder V8's with cool-power design”. They were based on Ford's MEL engine design (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) first released in the 1956 Lincoln. This new line of engines would be Mercury's first use of the Marauder name in a production automobile. There were four Marauder engines in the Mercury line for 1958 and only the low cost Medalist did not use a Marauder engine.
The Monterey and Commuter used the “Marauder 383” 2-barrel engine (312 hp).
The Montclair, Voyager, and Colony Park used the “Marauder 383” 4-barrel engine (330 hp).
Park Lanes came standard with a “Marauder 430” 4-barrel engine (360 hp).
And if you needed more power than this, all models were available with the exotic“Super Marauder” engine. This was a 430 6-barrel engine with an incredible 400 hp. It was the highest horsepower engine available in any American car in 1958. It was also a Lincoln-Mercury engine only, not available in a Ford.
Mercury Marauder engines were all about power. One 1958 Mercury flyer stated “the 312 hp Marauder V-8 in the attractively-priced Mercury Monterey gives you more standard power than you can get in the most expensive Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac or Dodge”. It also states that “Park Lane has the highest horsepower-to-weight ratio of any American car”. This was a great start for what would become a great Mercury name.
Engine production:
Marauder 383 2V (Monterey, Commuter) 97,052 less Super Marauder
Marauder 383 4V (Montclair, Voyager, Colony Park) 28,235 less Super Marauder
Marauder 430 (Park Lane) 9,252 less Super Marauder
Super Marauder 100 estimated
Cool information here Kirk! How about pictures of these great Turnpike cruisers to add to the drama of the dinosaur.:cool:
SC Cheesehead
01-01-2010, 08:06 AM
Love the pic of the 430 - 6V. :up:
Nice write up....thanks for sharing :banana:
chapel1
01-01-2010, 08:16 AM
Love the pic of the 430 - 6V. :up:
I like that one too...
Cool information here Kirk! How about pictures of these great Turnpike cruisers to add to the drama of the dinosaur.:cool:
No Turnpike Cruiser, but how about a couple of Super Marauders. The tan car is a Montclair and is the real deal. The green Monterey is a clone built by Brian Stefina for the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drags. It has turned a 14.019 1/4 mile in STOCK FORM. How many other new cars could you buy in 1958 that were that quick right off the show room floor? A top of the line 1957 FI Corvette did 14.3. Go Marauder!
breeze
01-01-2010, 11:57 AM
nice to kno the history on the car
TAKEDOWN
01-01-2010, 12:46 PM
Thanks for the knowledge, Sir!
Brian H
01-01-2010, 12:52 PM
saw the super M air cleaner on e-bay awhile back. Not sure how much it went for, but it was up there.
See how its air came from outside of the engine compartment.
1959 Mercury Marauder engines had a bit less horsepower than the previous year and the exotic “Super Marauder” engine was gone.
The Marauder 383 2V (280 hp) came in the Commuter.
The Marauder 383 4V (322 hp) was used in the Montclair, Voyager, and Colony Park.
The Marauder 430 (345 hp) was standard in the Park Lane.
The Mercury Monterey was no longer available with a Marauder engine, but instead used the base 312 “Economy Engine”.
There were no optional engines for any Mercury model in 1959.
Engine production:
Marauder 383 2V (Commuter) 16,173
Marauder 383 4V (Montclair, Voyager, Colony Park) 32,027
Marauder 430 (Park Lane) 12,520
massacre
01-02-2010, 11:08 AM
My uncle has one of those 430 inch Y-blocks on a stand. He owns a '64 Marauder, the thing is absolutely pristine. No 427, but it is a 390(which he promptly bored/stroked to 427 anyway) and it is such a beautiful car.
That is one of my future plans, add a vintage Marauder to the collection. Some day. Maybe a Super Marauder (hopefully i won't have to clone one or pay half a million bucks)
In 1960 Mercury Marauder engines continued their decline in variety and horsepower. There were now only two Marauder engines in the Mercury line, the Marauder 383 2V (280 hp) and the Marauder 430, now a 2V (310 hp). While the Monterey, and now the Commuter, came standard with a 312, the Marauder 383 was optional in those models. The Marauder 430 came standard in the Montclair, Park Lane, and Colony Park and was not an option in other models.
Engine production:
Marauder 383 unknown
Marauder 430 (Montclair, Park Lane, Colony Park) 37,512
Things continued to go down hill in terms of Mercury horsepower in 1961. Mercury changed its full-size car lines in 1961, no longer offering the three car line (Monterey, Montclair, Park Lane) but offering only the Monterey instead. All Montereys now came standard with a “Super-Economy 292” engine, but all could be upgraded to a Marauder 352 2V (220 hp) or a Marauder 390 4V (300 hp). These two engines were a different engine family than the previous Marauder engines. They were based on Ford's FE engine design (Ford-Edsel) first released in late 1957. All production Marauder engines built from this point forward would be FE engines. The 352 was the smallest and lowest horsepower Marauder engine ever offered to the public. The 300 hp Marauder 390 engine would continue in its same form through 1965, though with different names.
1961 Marauder engine production is unknown.
In the beginning of 1962 all engines built for the full-size Mercury were called “Monterey” engines and the Marauder name disappeared, but a turn around of the Marauder name began late in the year. In the spring of 1962 Ford's new 406 engine became available in two forms, 385 and 405 horsepower, the latter being a return to an exotic 3-carb engine like that used in the 1958 Mercury. (Ford used a 3-carb 390 in 1961-2, but it was not available in a Mercury) Initially called the Monterey 406, Mercury quickly changed names to the “Marauder” engine for the 406 4V, and the “Marauder 406” for the 406 6V. These engines were available in all full-size Mercurys except wagons. The Marauder 406 was the highest horsepower Marauder engine offered to date. However, 1962 would also be the year with the lowest production of Mercury Marauder engines ever.
The biggest Marauder news for 1962 was the Mercury Marauder convertible concept car that made the show circuit that year. The car used what would turn out to be 1963 sheet metal and looked very much like a 1963 Monterey convertible with 1964 wheel covers. This was the first time Mercury put the Marauder name on a car. The car is not well known and information on it is very hard to find today.
After looking for this picture for over a year, and not having seen it in some 20 years, I stumbled on it today while looking for something else. Here is a picture of the original 1962 Mercury Marauder concept car. This is the very first Mercury Marauder automobile.
Engine production:
Marauder 41 estimated
Marauder 406 83 estimated
1963 was without a doubt the most significant year for the Mercury Marauder name. The biggest Marauder news came on February 14, 1963 when Mercury announced the new hardtop fastback Mercury Marauder (bench seat) and Marauder S-55 (bucket seats). The Marauder was now available to the public as an automobile, not just an engine. The car was based on the Monterey convertible, having the same silhouette (top up) and using most of the same sheet metal.
In the same press release Mercury announced that the Marauder 406 and Super Marauder 406 engines would be replaced by the Marauder 427 4V (410 hp) and Super Marauder 427 8V (425 hp) engines. The Super Marauder 427 was the highest horsepower engine ever to wear the Marauder name. It was a stronger engine and used two 4-barrel carbs in place of the three 2-barrels used on the 406. (Want to see this press release? Click here http://homepages.wmich.edu/~dillery/documents.html and scroll about half way down the page.)
Mercury used the Marauder name in all of its full-size advertising in one form or another. The engines in all full-size Mercurys now used the Marauder name for the first time, and for the first time since 1958 the “Super Marauder” name made its return to a Mercury engine, in fact three engines.
The Marauder 390 2V (250 hp) came standard in the Monterey, Monterey Custom, and Marauder, and was a no cost option in the S-55.
The Super Marauder 390 4V (300 hp) was standard in the Monterey S-55 and Marauder S-55, and was optional in Monterey and Monterey Custom.
The 406 changed names slightly now being called the Marauder 406 (385 hp) and Super Marauder 406 (405 hp).
The new hardtop fastback Marauder was aerodynamically designed to compete on the NASCAR super speedways and USAC. It did very well and Mercury even advertised its race record for the year. On July 4, 1963 Parnelli Jones drove a 427 powered Marauder to a new record at the Pikes Peak Hill Climb. The new fastback Mercury Marauder with its Marauder engine was a force to be reckoned with.
A little 1963 Mercury Marauder name visibility trivia: Monterey and Marauder glove box doors said “Monterey” and “Marauder” respectively, and the Monterey S-55 glove box door said “S Fifty Five”, but all Marauder S-55 glove box doors said “Marauder” instead of “S Fifty Five”.
Car production:
Marauder 7,298
Marauder S-55 2,319
Engine production:
Marauder 390 (Marauder, Monterey, Monterey Custom) no more than 98,108
Super Marauder 390 (S-55) at least 8,764
Marauder 406 29
Super Marauder 406 64
Marauder 427 25
Super Marauder 427 58
Pics: Marauder (Super Marauder 427), Marauder S-55 (Super Marauder 427), Super Marauder 390, Super Marauder 406, Super Marauder 427
Kirk I like this thread! Thanks!
Kirk I like this thread! Thanks!
You're welcome. It's my pleasure. Just looking for a way to contribute.
In 1964 Mercury changed its model lineup, returning its full-size cars to the three model lines it used in the 1950s, Monterey, Montclair, and Park Lane. Each of these came in a 2-door or 4-door “breezeway” body style (re-introduced in 1963) (Monterey and Park Lane were also available as convertibles), but each was also available in a 2-door or 4-door hardtop fastback body style which gave them the additional designation of "Marauder". This gave the customer 6 different Marauder models to choose from instead of just two. The hardtop fastback Monterey, Montclair, or Park Lane Marauders all used "Marauder" badging and racing flags (carried over from the 1963 Marauder) on the front fenders that the breezeway and convertible cars did not have. Marauders continued to do very well in racing, winning 8 major stock car races and the USAC championship in 1964, and advertising their record again. They also got heavy into drag racing in 1964, with many Mercury Comets using Super Marauder 427 power at the strip, but these Comets were not regular production cars.
The 1964 engine line was basically a carry over of 1963 with the addition of a couple of engines.
The Marauder 390 2V (250 hp) was standard in the Monterey and Montclair.
A new high compression Marauder 390 2V (266 hp) was optional.
The Super Marauder 390 4V (300 hp) was standard in the Park Lane and optional in other models.
The 390 4V Police Interceptor, available since 1962, was now the Interceptor Marauder 390 (330 hp).
The Marauder 427 (410 hp) and Super Marauder 427 (425 hp) were unchanged from 1963.
Mercury had George Barris create a very well known Marauder in 1964, taking a Mercury convertible with a 427 and turning it into the “Super Marauder”. This heavily modified two seat head turner was a great exploration in Mercury style, and was covered in a few publications including the March 1964 Car Craft Magazine. It's the only time a car used the name Super Marauder. Ironically, the Super Marauder was powered by the Marauder 427 not the Super Marauder 427.
Car production:
Monterey Marauder 2-door 8,760
Monterey Marauder 4-door 4,143
Montclair Marauder 2-door 6,459
Montclair Marauder 4-door 8,655
Park Lane Marauder 2-door 1,052
Park Lane Marauder 4-door 4,505
Engine production:
Marauder 390 (250 hp) unknown
Marauder 390 (266 hp) unknown
Super Marauder 390 (Park Lane) at least 17,942
Interceptor Marauder 390 unknown
Marauder 427 22 estimated
Super Marauder 427 42 estimated
Pics: Monterey Marauder 2-dr (Super Marauder 427), Montclair Marauder 4-dr, Interceptor Marauder 390, Super Marauder 427, Barris Super Marauder
2,4shofast
01-07-2010, 07:12 AM
Thank you very much for this post, there is a ton of information! I really had no clue about 95% of the infomation, its really an eye opener:beer: I didnt know that certain models and trims were so rare. Thanks Kirk:bows:
SC Cheesehead
01-07-2010, 07:49 AM
Kirk,
Great historical info, thanks for posting! :up:
Brian H
01-07-2010, 06:24 PM
Does anyone else remember a model car kit of the super marauder, from AMT? maybe opposing hilborn injection thru the hood(like crossed fingers)
1965 Mercurys were completely restyled and re-engineered but continued the three model full-size lineup. The Monterey Marauder, Montclair Marauder, and Park Lane Marauder were all still available in 2-door or 4-door models. While the 2-door Marauders were still distinctly hardtop fastback bodies, the 4-door Marauder was now not so fastback, but there were still six models to choose from. The Marauder script and classic racing flags used since 1963 were moved from the front fenders to the bottom edge of the roof behind the rear side window. More Mercury Marauders were built in 1965 than all other years combined, but it would also be the last year for the Marauder car until 1969.
Marauder engine choices remained unchanged from 1964 except that the Marauder 427 (410 hp) was gone. The Super Marauder 427 (425 hp) was still available but this would be the last year for an exotic multi-carburetor 400-plus horsepower Super Marauder engine and only a small handful were built.
Car production:
Monterey Marauder 2-door 16,857
Monterey Marauder 4-door 10,047
Montclair Marauder 2-door 9,645
Montclair Marauder 4-door 16,977
Park Lane Marauder 2-door 6,853
Park Lane Marauder 4-door 14,211
Engine production:
Marauder 390 (250 hp) unknown
Marauder 390 (266 hp) unknown
Super Marauder 390 (Park Lane) at least 32,405
Interceptor Marauder 390 unknown
Super Marauder 427 7
Pics: Monterey Marauder 2-dr, Montclair Marauder 4-dr, Park Lane Marauder 2-dr, Marauder 390, Super Marauder 390
SMOKE
01-08-2010, 07:07 AM
GREAT stuff that I need to find more time to spend time with....THANKS!
My first Marauder memory was the Marauder 410 in a '66 Park Lane my parents had picked up used when I
was just a toddler. Seems you're about to trip into that model year next! In its former life it was a chauffer driven car!
I remember the engine and the HUUUGE WIIIIDE chrome dash in that thing! ;) Got some pictures
around somewhere I've been thinking of scanning so I can use them with some shots of my '03 in some form.
Best,
Jonathan
Mercury no longer made a Marauder car in 1966, but all full-size Mercurys still used Marauder engines.
The Marauder 390 2V (265 hp with a manual transmission or 275 hp with an automatic transmission) came standard in all full-size cars except the Park Lane and S-55. These same engines were available in the Cyclone, but were called Cyclone engines in that application.
The Interceptor Marauder 390 was gone.
The Super Marauder 390 was replaced by a new Marauder 410 4V (330 hp) which was standard in the Park Lane and optional in all full-size cars except S-55. The 410 was a Mercury only engine and thus every 410 engine built was a “Marauder” engine.
A new top of the line Super Marauder 428 4V (345 hp) was standard in the S-55 and optional in all other full-size cars.
1966 Marauder engine production is unknown.
SC Cheesehead
01-09-2010, 12:32 PM
Does anyone else remember a model car kit of the super marauder, from AMT? maybe opposing hilborn injection thru the hood(like crossed fingers)
Yup! I had one way back when!
In 1967, for the first time ever, you could get a Marauder engine in a regular production Mercury other than a full-size car.
The Marauder 390 2V (270 hp) was standard in Monterey, Montclair, Commuter, and Colony Park. It was optional in the Comet 202, Capri, Caliente, Cyclone, Comet Villager, and Voyager.
The new Marauder 390 GT 4V engine (320 hp) was standard in the Cougar GT and Cyclone GT, and optional in the Cougar.
The Marauder 410 (330 hp) was standard in the Park Lane, Marquis, and Brougham, and optional in all full-size cars except S-55.
The Super Marauder 428 (345 hp) was standard in the S-55 and optional in all other full-size cars.
See Marti Auto Works for 1967 Marauder engine production.
1968 would be the last year for the Mercury Marauder engine in a regular production car.
The Marauder 390 (265 hp) was standard in Monterey, Montclair, Commuter, and Colony Park with a manual transmission. It was optional in Comet Sports Coupe, Montego, Montego MX, Montego MX Brougham, Cyclone, and Cyclone GT.
The Marauder 390P (280 hp) was standard in Monterey, Montclair, Commuter, and Colony Park with an automatic transmission. It was optional in the Cougar and Cougar XR-7.
The Super Marauder 390 (315 hp) returned to the Mercury engine line replacing the Marauder 410 that had replaced it two years earlier. It was standard in the Park Lane, Marquis, and Brougham, and optional in all other full-size Mercurys.
The Marauder 390 GT (325 hp) was up five horsepower and was still standard in the Cougar GT. It was optional in Comet Sports Coupe, Montego, Montego MX, Montego MX Brougham, Cyclone, Cyclone GT, Cougar, and Cougar XR-7.
The Super Marauder 428 (340 hp) was still the top engine choice, but with five less horsepower, and was optional in all full-size Mercurys.
See Marti Auto Works for 1968 Marauder engine production.
Pics: Marauder 390P, Marauder 390 GT
Canadasvt
01-12-2010, 06:59 AM
Thank you for sharing the knowledge!
While the Marauder engine was now gone, 1969 saw the return of the Mercury Marauder car as a 2-door only with a unique tunneled rear window. Two models were available, the base Marauder with a 390 2V (280 hp) and 3-speed manual transmission standard, and the Marauder X-100 with standard 429 4V (360 hp) and automatic transmission. The 429 was optional in the Marauder and was not available with a manual transmission. A 4-speed manual transmission was not available behind the 390.
Car production:
Marauder 9,031
Marauder X-100 5,635
1970 was a repeat of 1969 offering the Marauder and Marauder X-100. This was the year of lowest Marauder car production to date. Every Marauder built to this point, except for the X-100, has come standard with a 390 2V or 4V engine. This was the last time Mercury would use the Marauder name for a very long time.
Car production:
Marauder 3,397
Marauder X-100 2,646
In November 1998 at the Specialty Equipment Manufacturer's Association (SEMA) show in Las Vegas, Mercury unveiled a new Mercury Marauder concept car. Based on the Mercury Grand Marquis the car was a black 4-door sedan with large polished aluminum wheels and an aggressive look. The car was conceived to fill the void left when Chevy stopped production of the Impala SS. A supercharged 4.6L 2-valve modular engine sat on a stand beside the car and Mercury officials lead all to believe it was the engine used for the Marauder's motivation. What most people don't know is that the car actually had a 5.8L pushrod V8 under the hood. A few years later the car is painted gray with gray flames as a styling exercise. It was scheduled to be destroyed.
stanchfi
01-14-2010, 08:44 PM
WOW - are the 3 photos of the 1998 Marauder? I'd never seen or heard of that before. Thanks again for sharing this fascinating history.
WOW - are the 3 photos of the 1998 Marauder? I'd never seen or heard of that before. Thanks again for sharing this fascinating history.
Hard to believe isn't it. I took that picture on July 20, 2002 at an IMOA meet in Belleville. Bill Dear, Marauder Team Member, told me that they had extra money left from the SEMA car project so they added the up to date parts and painted it. What you see was the result. But when I took the picture it still had the 5.8 in it. Didn't get a picture of that.
In January 2002, at the Chicago Auto Show, Mercury unveiled yet another Mercury Marauder concept car, this time a 2-door convertible. This car did use a 4.6L 2-valve supercharged engine (335 hp) under the hood unlike the SEMA car. And for the first time since 1968 Mercury brought the Marauder name back to an engine, calling this one the “Supercharged Marauder 4.6L”. The car is for show only and is missing the top, glass, much of the wiring, and is limited to 25 mph. It sold on ebay on Aug. 17, 2003 for $37,655 with proceeds going to charity. Note that the only three Marauder convertibles built by Mercury were all concept cars (1962, 1964- more topless than convertible, 2002). There is no public record of a production Marauder convertible ever being built.
On June 6, 2002 the first production 2003 Mercury Marauder is sold. It's the first time since 1970 anyone could buy a new Mercury Marauder. It's the first time ever that only one model is offered. The production Marauder is very much like the 1998 concept, a 4-door sedan based on the Grand Marquis. The car is initially offered only in black and with only two options. It comes standard with a normally aspirated all aluminum 4.6L 4-valve V8 engine (302 hp) (though called InTech not Marauder), 4-speed automatic transmission, and 3.55 locking rear end. Combined with a tuned suspension and 18 inch wheels with BF Goodrich G-Force tires, performance and handling are good, especially for a full-size 4-door sedan. Acceleration still leaves many customers disappointed. In the fall of 2002 two additional colors and several options are added. Some content is also deleted to save cost.
Mercury introduces yet one more Marauder concept car, the Marauder S55. Based on the production sedan, the Marauder S55 uses many unique trim accents, but most importantly has a 345 horsepower supercharged “Super Marauder” engine under the hood. It is the first time Mercury uses the Marauder S55 name since the Marauder's initial introduction in 1963. This was the last Mercury “Marauder” engine built.
Car production:
Marauder 7,838
The Marauder continues production in 2004 largely unchanged. The transmission is upgraded, the engine is re-tuned, and colors are changed slightly, but it is essentially a carry over of the previous year. It is the year of lowest Marauder car production ever, and the last time Mercury uses the Marauder name.
Car production:
Marauder 3,214
I hope you enjoyed this little trip down Marauder memory lane. Did I miss anything?
Blue03
01-17-2010, 10:09 AM
Great Job! A very enjoyable thread. Thanks for Posting it Up! Hope it becomes a permanent one!!! :up::up::up:
stanchfi
01-25-2010, 08:13 AM
Do you know where these S55 photos were taken, or what show it was unveiled at?
thanks
-James
Do you know where these S55 photos were taken, or what show it was unveiled at?
thanks
-James
I don't know the answer to either. I first saw the car at the Woodward Dream Cruise at Ford's site in Birmingham. I believe that was in 2003, but it may have been 2002.
Ozark Marauder
01-25-2010, 11:09 AM
A concept history lesson
http://www.wingedmessenger.net/ConceptFuture.htm
I wonder where this concept is?
http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-2003-Mercury-Messenger-Concept.htm
I want it..........
JBcarnut
02-03-2010, 08:35 PM
Kirk, Thanks for the great history lesson and photos! My father had several Mercury company cars in the 60s and 70s. The best one was a '67 Montclair 4dr hardtop, dark green w/ a 390. I vaguely remember him showing me a brochure probably shortly before he got that car. The thing he pointed out was the new-for-67 Marquis model that was very luxurious for its time. A cousin sent me this link recently and I zeroed in on the '67 Mercury catalog. Those '67s had great lines! Incredible how rare 60s Mercurys are...
http://www.lov2xlr8.no/broch1.html
A bump for all those who have joined in the last 6 months. There have been many.
Blackened300a
09-23-2010, 01:40 PM
I joined over 5 years ago and I missed this thread. Great write up! :up:
Mr. Squirrel
09-23-2010, 04:04 PM
Marauders are the sexiest automobile designed. I found a 63 s55 with a 390 locally. The crappest part of it the numb nut turned it into a lowrider:(
Raven34
09-26-2010, 02:30 PM
Thanks for the info! This is my first time seeing this thread and i really enjoyed it. It feels good to know some of the true background that was Marauder
The Montclair, Voyager, and Colony Park used the “Marauder 383” 4-barrel engine (330 hp).
Park Lanes came standard with a “Marauder 430” 4-barrel engine (360 hp).
And if you needed more power than this, all models were available with the exotic“Super Marauder” engine. This was a 430 6-barrel engine with an incredible 400 hp. It was the highest horsepower engine available in any American car in 1958. It was also a Lincoln-Mercury engine only, not available in a Ford.
Actually the 430 MEL was a option in the '60 T-Bird, but was the only year... If I remember correctly was available with a three speed trans and was often used in NASCAR racing...
Interesting history...
hotford
09-27-2010, 12:14 AM
Thank you for that great history info of the Marauder!
Now can some tell me where I can get a set of those rear tail light off the S55 marauder.
Blackened300a
09-27-2010, 05:03 AM
Thank you for that great history info of the Marauder!
Now can some tell me where I can get a set of those rear tail light off the S55 marauder.
You mean these?
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18 283&d=1263649447
I brought mine to a bodyshop and had them done for around $100.
Actually the 430 MEL was a option in the '60 T-Bird, but was the only year...
True, but I was referencing 1958 only in that particular quote. Many things changed from year to year. Engines that were "Marauders" one year might not be the next. They were pretty wishing washy in those days.
jflave
09-27-2010, 07:47 AM
Very good reading thanks for posting this info. :)
88LTDCV351
09-27-2010, 04:52 PM
Cool stuff. Didn't know about the S55.
Cool stuff. Didn't know about the S55.
Mercury used the "S" ID on all of their early '60s bucket seat models, Comets were S-22 & Meteors were S-33...
guspech750
09-30-2010, 03:14 PM
Does the odometer say 1 mile. Just currious.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18 256&d=1263561321 (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18 256&d=1263561321)
guspech750
09-30-2010, 03:21 PM
If they only would have built a Grand Maquis like this. I would love to own one.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c40/artandcolour2006/Photochops/GrandMarquisClubCoupe.jpg
Dont know if its photoshoped. Dont know dont care. I want it.
TJCOX
10-02-2010, 12:09 PM
Had a 56 Ford that had a 272 engine and located and had installed a
Merc 312 in its place. The Mercury engine was rated at ten more h.p.
than the Fords 312.
TAKEDOWN
10-02-2010, 01:02 PM
The 390 4V Police Interceptor, available since 1962, was now the Interceptor Marauder 390 (330 hp) <--- Now that's cool, thanks for the great info!
DANTHEVICMAN
11-06-2010, 02:50 PM
Found this on ebay, the rare 1958 400hp mercury, cool find, was doing some research and wound up finding this post, cool stuff, figured id share.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1958-Mercury-Monterey-Super-Marauder-400hp-RARE-/120642043352?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item1c16d37dd8#v4-38
jerrym3
11-06-2010, 03:36 PM
This is heresay, but a friend of mine (a MoPar fanatic) was in the military in San Diego back in the 60's..
Fastest street car around? A 58 430 Merc.
Found this on ebay, the rare 1958 400hp mercury, cool find, was doing some research and wound up finding this post, cool stuff, figured id share.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1958-Mercury-Monterey-Super-Marauder-400hp-RARE-/120642043352?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item1c16d37dd8#v4-38
That's one super rare Super Marauder!
This is heresay, but a friend of mine (a MoPar fanatic) was in the military in San Diego back in the 60's..
Fastest street car around? A 58 430 Merc.
Capable of low 14s in stock trim. It's not heresay, it's fact.
BUCKWHEAT
11-06-2010, 06:32 PM
Isn't the factory engine & aircleaner alone worth $3800?
secretservice
11-09-2010, 11:05 AM
Auto Trader Classics had a story on that car last month. Got mine. :D I posted about it.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66924&highlight=auto+trader+classics
Capable of low 14s in stock trim. It's not heresay, it's fact.
Do you have a drag test that will substantiate that claim???
The only way I'd believe it is if the car had 4.11 gears(I'm fairly sure stock was 2.69) and the track was down hill, then maybe a 14.999...
Almost none of the pre-1972 HP figures were as installed in the car, but were on a dyno with open headers and no accessories(prior to the early '60s Ford exhaust manifolds flowed like soda straws) ... That means in the real world true HP figures were maybe 25% of advertised or in this case 300Hp...
Sooo A 300Hp car(more like 250 at the rear tires) with a 2-something rear, in a 4400 lb car is going to run a LOW 14???
Don't forget, you said stock trim...
Do you have a drag test that will substantiate that claim???
The only way I'd believe it is if the car had 4.11 gears(I'm fairly sure stock was 2.69) and the track was down hill, then maybe a 14.999...
Almost none of the pre-1972 HP figures were as installed in the car, but were on a dyno with open headers and no accessories(prior to the early '60s Ford exhaust manifolds flowed like soda straws) ... That means in the real world true HP figures were maybe 25% of advertised or in this case 300Hp...
Sooo A 300Hp car(more like 250 at the rear tires) with a 2-something rear, in a 4400 lb car is going to run a LOW 14???
Don't forget, you said stock trim...
From page one of this thread, Brian Stafina's 1958 Monterey has turned a 14.019 in the pure stock drags. This was not with a 2-something rear end, but keep in mind that in the 1950s and 1960s you could get virtually any rear gear you wanted from the factory. I think he was running a 4.56 rear.
When I say it was capable it does mean you had to fill out the order sheet correctly. Not every one that left the factory could do it, but it was possible to buy one that fast.
From page one of this thread, Brian Stafina's 1958 Monterey has turned a 14.019 in the pure stock drags. This was not with a 2-something rear end, but keep in mind that in the 1950s and 1960s you could get virtually any rear gear you wanted from the factory. I think he was running a 4.56 rear.
When I say it was capable it does mean you had to fill out the order sheet correctly. Not every one that left the factory could do it, but it was possible to buy one that fast.
Yes back in the day some different rear ratios were avail from the factory but as far as a 4.56 in a '58 Merc, I'll have to see it on a order form to believe it...
Brian is running the base 2dr sedan body which is a lot lighter than the top of the line hardtops, plus he's running a three speed not the slush-o-matic that probably 99% of the 400Hp cars received... Pure stock drag also allows a full 2.5" exhaust system which no doubt frees up HP...
As far as any stock '58 Merc automatic running a 14, it never happened and I doubt a assembly line three speed version could either...
Yes back in the day some different rear ratios were avail from the factory but as far as a 4.56 in a '58 Merc, I'll have to see it on a order form to believe it...
Brian is running the base 2dr sedan body which is a lot lighter than the top of the line hardtops, plus he's running a three speed not the slush-o-matic that probably 99% of the 400Hp cars received... Pure stock drag also allows a full 2.5" exhaust system which no doubt frees up HP...
As far as any stock '58 Merc automatic running a 14, it never happened and I doubt a assembly line three speed version could either...
I've documented 23 406 & 427 Mercs. 9 of these had optional 4.11 rear ends and 3 of them had blank axle codes indicating a special gear sets not on the standard option list. Typically this meant a ratio higher than 4.11. My point being that many people buying these cars wanted them to be quick, and just because it wasn't on the standard order form didn't mean you couldn't get it. Times were different then.
"As far as any stock '58 Merc automatic running a 14, it never happened and I doubt a assembly line three speed version could either"
You "could not" get an automatic behind a 406 or 427 either, but a Galaxie site has one documented complete with build sheet.
"It never happened" and you have proof of this?
I agree completely that Brian's car is exceptionally fast for a '58. And I concede that not every '58 Super Marauder would run 14s, but I disagree that it was impossible for a stock '58 to run 14s. We can agree to disagree.
And I still say that the Super Marauder was likely the quickest new car you could buy in 1958 with the exception of the Corvette. My 2 cents.
I've documented 23 406 & 427 Mercs. 9 of these had optional 4.11 rear ends and 3 of them had blank axle codes indicating a special gear sets not on the standard option list. Typically this meant a ratio higher than 4.11. My point being that many people buying these cars wanted them to be quick, and just because it wasn't on the standard order form didn't mean you couldn't get it. Times were different then.
"As far as any stock '58 Merc automatic running a 14, it never happened and I doubt a assembly line three speed version could either"
You "could not" get an automatic behind a 406 or 427 either, but a Galaxie site has one documented complete with build sheet.
"It never happened" and you have proof of this?
I agree completely that Brian's car is exceptionally fast for a '58. And I concede that not every '58 Super Marauder would run 14s, but I disagree that it was impossible for a stock '58 to run 14s. We can agree to disagree.
And I still say that the Super Marauder was likely the quickest new car you could buy in 1958 with the exception of the Corvette. My 2 cents.
Agreed...
But one last thought on those gear ratios.... What was happening in '63 when Ford was back into racing and was advertising "Total Performance" is long way from '58 when they were honoring AMAs ban on factory involvement in racing... If these Hot Rod Merc's were so fast, seems there would have been a slew of them running NASCAR... Maybe I missed them???
I have an update on page 2, 1962.
Marauda
10-27-2011, 07:26 AM
hey, im kinda new to the forum but can somebody get pictures from the interior of the marauder, not the x100 but the only difference is the bigger engine and the automatic transmission. But what im interested in is the normal manual transmitted marauder, so if somebody please post some images it would be totally awesome
gr ruben
SC Cheesehead
10-27-2011, 07:49 AM
hey, im kinda new to the forum but can somebody get pictures from the interior of the marauder, not the x100 but the only difference is the bigger engine and the automatic transmission. But what im interested in is the normal manual transmitted marauder, so if somebody please post some images it would be totally awesome
gr ruben
What years (63-65), (69-70) or ('03-04)?
hey, im kinda new to the forum but can somebody get pictures from the interior of the marauder, not the x100 but the only difference is the bigger engine and the automatic transmission. But what im interested in is the normal manual transmitted marauder, so if somebody please post some images it would be totally awesome
gr ruben
Hey Marauda, welcome to the forum. This http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Mercury/1970%20Mercury/album/dirindex.html is the best I can do for pictures of a 1970 Marauder. The '69-70 Marauder (non X100) came standard with a 3-speed manual transmission, though I'm sure very few were built that way. Parts to convert one from an automatic to a manual should be available somewhere, but I can't say where specifically. The clutch and column shifter parts are likely the same as other full size Fords and Mercs of those years, but I can't say possitively. Those are the years I know the least about. Hope this helps.
Black Cloud
03-02-2012, 10:25 PM
For anyone interested the concept convertible is on Ebay at a dealer outside of Philadelphia PA asking $75k. I had gone to check out a Red '04. Did not buy b/c there was too many inconsistencies with the car not being pristine. Then a few months later he comes up w/the concept car.
Guittard22
10-08-2013, 10:28 AM
Amazing post thanks for the history Lesson!
Jimimac43
10-09-2013, 05:47 AM
In 1962 my dad bought a 1958 parklane. He would let me drive it home from church on Sundays since traffic was light. Big ol' car. In 1966, I bought my 1st car, 1961 T-bird, 390 300hp.
Guittard22
10-16-2014, 06:22 PM
For all you old-timers out there let me ask you a question it's kind of on Lincoln - mercury memorabilia Question I saw a long time ago Saw plaque like framed down the the middle lincon logo , specialty little silver hologram like plaques of all specialty cars from Lincoln Mercury one spot had a photo of the 64 super marauder .
Anyone have any history on this piece of memorabilia ?
RF Overlord
10-17-2014, 08:39 AM
I missed this thread until just now... fascinating info, kirk. Thanks!
Ford apparently doesn't have a good track record producing Marauder convertible concept cars... ;)
I missed this thread until just now... fascinating info, kirk. Thanks!
Ford apparently doesn't have a good track record producing Marauder convertible concept cars... ;)
They have a fantastic record of producing Marauder convertible concepts. It's production Marauder convertibles they suck at. :)
RF Overlord
10-18-2014, 05:49 AM
Heh...touché...
When I wrote this someone, can't remember who, suggested I should write a book, so I did, and then let it sit on the computer for a couple of years. I recently had occasion to show it to someone who's been in the business for a long time. Short story is he liked it, but the realistic financial issues involved mean it's very unlikely it will ever get published. The demand just isn't there to bring it in at a reasonable cost and I'm not interested in publishing it myself on a small scale.
My loss is your gain. Seems a shame to waste it and there might be more people here than I can count on my hands who would actually want it, so I'm offering it here in pdf as a freebee (30 pages). Timing is good as this month is the 15 year anniversary of the 2003 Marauder's first sales.
I can't post it here for download because it's 11.6 MB, but I'll be happy to email it to you. Send me a PM.
Gerry24
06-25-2017, 08:00 PM
Thanks Kirk, great write up!!!! I have been schooled... :bows:
Thanks Kirk, great write up!!!! I have been schooled... :bows:
If you really like it that much you should get the book. More content, better content, and you don't have to read the posts in between.
RF Overlord
06-27-2017, 10:03 AM
PM sent.
Thanks, Kirk, that was awesome. I haven't read it in detail yet, but I skimmed it and I bet you have better info than Ford does!
Didn't work too well the first time, so let's try again
Are you interested in the history of the Marauder?
Yes?
Then follow this link and click on the PDF at the bottom
https://sites.google.com/a/wmich.edu...rauder-history
Let us know how you like it.
Invective
05-16-2018, 01:07 PM
While the Marauder engine was now gone, 1969 saw the return of the Mercury Marauder car as a 2-door only with a unique tunneled rear window. Two models were available, the base Marauder with a 390 2V (280 hp) and 3-speed manual transmission standard, and the Marauder X-100 with standard 429 4V (360 hp) and automatic transmission. The 429 was optional in the Marauder and was not available with a manual transmission. A 4-speed manual transmission was not available behind the 390.
Recalling a co-worker who bought an immaculate X-100 for a song during the mid '70s. Still remember it well to this day.
Invective
05-16-2018, 01:15 PM
Mercury introduces yet one more Marauder concept car, the Marauder S55. Based on the production sedan, the Marauder S55 uses many unique trim accents, but most importantly has a 345 horsepower supercharged “Super Marauder” engine under the hood. It is the first time Mercury uses the Marauder S55 name since the Marauder's initial introduction in 1963. This was the last Mercury “Marauder” engine built.
Completely interesting - unaware of this factoid.
Bondfreak13
05-16-2018, 07:27 PM
I don't know If anyone is familiar with Pure Stock Drags, But I found this Video of a 58 Super Marauder Equipped Monterey vs a 70 SS 396 Chevelle. I read the Rules. If the car was capable of those numbers back in 58, there wasn't Much that could touch it unless it was a custom hot rod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJtxpvSR1iw
I don't know If anyone is familiar with Pure Stock Drags, But I found this Video of a 58 Super Marauder Equipped Monterey vs a 70 SS 396 Chevelle. I read the Rules. If the car was capable of those numbers back in 58, there wasn't Much that could touch it unless it was a custom hot rod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJtxpvSR1iw
I know the guy that built that '58. He also built a '64 427 Marauder that ran low 13s.
This '58 is artificially quick because I don't think you could actually get a manual trans with the Super Marauder and I don't think the gears he's using were available either. That being said, the '58 Super Marauder was still one of the quickest cars of it's day.
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